--- Log opened Sun Jun 05 00:00:27 2011
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09:00 <@Evilpig> just did a google images search for "director con badge" and I get back page after page of furries
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09:17 <@ware> wee
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11:10 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: WAKE UP!
11:10 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home: ping me after you check your email
11:19 <@Corydon76-home> Evilpig: pong
11:24 <@Evilpig> comments?
11:25 <@Evilpig> should fit the blank size you said.  I think it is big enough to be easily recognizable
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12:04 <@Corydon76-home> Evilpig: I definitely like the pink background.  I doubt anybody would have pink cardstock on hand to successfully forge the staff badge.
12:06 <@Evilpig> pink?  wtf did I send you?
12:11 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, sorry, it's red.  My screen settings are off
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12:24 <@Evilpig> alright.  i'm headin up outta here for the day.  i'll be back at midnight
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16:21 <@Dagmar> Ack!  Server fell over just as I was doing final testing
16:22 <@Dagmar> Evilpig/NotLarry: Check out the rail run that goes out to the place you guys wouldn't leave alone
16:22 <@Dagmar> Rail car comes in, chimes and stops.  ~10s later, it starts moving again.
16:23 <@Dagmar> Yech.  Unless brimstone is working on it, something ugly must have happened when it crashed that time.
16:23 <@Dagmar> It ain't comin' back up
16:28 <@Dagmar> Man that's a bummer
16:34 <@brimstone> soooooooooo many errors on eth0
16:34 <@brimstone> also, you were doing something to max out my upload again
16:35 <@Dagmar> Weeeird
16:35 <@Dagmar> I can't really imagine what since we've been killing off spin-boosters right and left
16:35 <@brimstone> iftop has you clocked at 47somethingKB/s
16:35 <@brimstone> you're just loading the map fast
16:35 <@brimstone> and a lot of it
16:35 <@Dagmar> Heh I'll turn view distance down then
16:36 <@brimstone> now the raid's acting weird because hda is now sda and the letters are all off
16:36 <@Dagmar> Mount by UUID solves that
16:36 <@brimstone> mdadm has a UUID support?
16:36 <@Dagmar> for it to swich from being hda to sda is freaking weird tho
16:36 <@Dagmar> mdadm doesn't have to.  Mount has UUID support
16:36 <@brimstone> not when you're jumping from 2.6.31 to 2.6.39
16:37 <@brimstone> mdadm thought sda was part of the raid, which it was under 2.6.31
16:37 <@Dagmar> I can't remember id mdadm uses the same facilities as LVM or not, but that basically just scans disks and looks for the LVM signatures on filesystems
16:37 <@brimstone> several things happened just now
16:37 <@Dagmar> So... strictly using LVM it can't get confused about what pieces go where
16:37 <@brimstone> no lvm on this box though
16:38 <@brimstone> just mdadm and xfs
16:38 <@Dagmar> ...which can get a little freaky when yoou reinstall and it just somehow magically knows where all the slices are
16:38 <@Dagmar> Unless you're using hardware raid you probably want to switch to pure LVM soon
16:39 <@brimstone> i don't have the space or the drives to change it
16:39 <@Dagmar> I can't remember the last time I had a problem reassembling an array of volumse
16:39 <@brimstone> lvm doesn't have raid5 support does it?
16:40 <@Dagmar> It *seems* so
16:40 <@Dagmar> I'd like to be more certain but the last time I set up some stuff as raid-5 I was just glad it worked (because I hadn't fully learned LVM yet)
16:40 <@Dagmar> http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/raid-lvm.php#raid believes so
16:41 <@brimstone> that's lvm on top of md
16:41 <@Dagmar> Cept that guy appears to be using both mdadm and lvm
16:42 <@Dagmar> Was the high bandwidth over long periods or was it spikey?
16:42 <@Dagmar> I can see riding a rail line running bandwidth up
16:42 <@brimstone> spikish
16:42 <@brimstone> i don't have a graph
16:42 <@Dagmar> Hopefulyl Notch will find someplace in the code to serial number chunk writes so he can think about client-side caching, which would kill that problem
16:43 <@Dagmar> So if it was spiking it was probably me running back and forth over the line to try to spot places where it can stick
16:43 <@Dagmar> I was worried there might be some issue with diodes spamming updates or somethign
16:44 <@Dagmar> I figured out (by sheer luck) something that's been killing nVidia drivers. :)
16:44 <@Dagmar> Slackware 13.37's kernel just comes FULL STOP during intialization of the PCIe bus
16:44 <@brimstone> that's nifty
16:45 <@Dagmar> The only way I found to get around it was do disable ASPM for that bus
16:45 <@brimstone> aaaaaaaaaaand server's back up
16:45 <@Dagmar> Sometimes it could get past it, but the power management for the PCIe bus was having another effect... Certain video registers the nVidia driver needs to see were getting reset
16:45 <@Dagmar> I put Ubuntu 11 on a different partition last night, and could not get the damn nVidia driver to work
16:46 <@Dagmar> Sure enough I throw pcie_aspm=off into the boot parameters for the kernel to kill it there, and instantly the driver has no problem with the video card
16:46 <@Dagmar> Something is knackered in that code from .32 on
16:47 <@brimstone> yeah, my desktop can't go past .32 cuz anything past 195 *CLAIMS* to bring up the graphics card, but only gives me a black screen
16:47 <@Dagmar> Pass it that kernel argument at bootup
16:47 <@brimstone> orly?
16:48 <@brimstone> i'll give it a go here in a bit
16:48 <@Dagmar> It's gotten me around hte nVidia driver problem on two different distros now
16:48 <@Dagmar> Ubuntu is sitting here running 270 without a hitch
16:48 <@Dagmar> Slackware as well
16:50 <@brimstone> do you have an intel system by chance?
16:50 <@Dagmar> While that screwey bug is happening, the nVidia kernel module won't even load
16:50 <@Dagmar> Nope.  AMD here.
16:51 <@brimstone> huh
16:52 <@Dagmar> Jun  5 03:10:25 Dryad kernel: [   10.540297] NVRM: The NVIDIA GPU 0000:02:00.0 (PCI ID: 10de:0614) installed
16:52 <@Dagmar> Jun  5 03:10:25 Dryad kernel: [   10.540298] NVRM: in this system is not supported by the 270.41.06 NVIDIA Linux
16:52 <@Dagmar> That's basically what it carps about
16:52 <@Dagmar> Also Jun  5 03:10:25 Dryad kernel: [   10.540335] nvidia: probe of 0000:02:00.0 failed with error -1
16:53 <@brimstone> on mine, everything looks cool in dmesg and Xorg.0.log
16:53 <@brimstone> just, the screen's black
16:54 <@Dagmar> With 270 I was getting a big fat raspberry out of it
16:54 <@Dagmar> [    15.466] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your (blah blah blah)
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17:32 <@brimstone> Dagmar: pcie_aspm=off didn't fix it
17:58 <@Dagmar> brimstone: Damn.  hopefully they'll figure out what it is they broke soon
17:58 <@brimstone> it may be xserver related, but i don't know
18:06 <@Dagmar> Well, at least the new minecart station does what it's supposed to (aside from one delay I have to set to the max still)
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19:01 <@Bahhumbug> hahahaha. gagme.com.  I worked for Greg for a number of years.
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20:00 <@Dagmar> brimstone: I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest maybe the power supply has issues if you were seeing rx/tx errors on the NIC
20:00 <@brimstone> it's only like, every 8th boot
20:00 <@Dagmar> Freaky
20:00 <@brimstone> and i think it's only rx errors
20:01 <@brimstone> if i reboot, 99% of the time it's ok
20:01 <@Dagmar> Generally those are zero all the live long day
20:01 <@brimstone> yup
20:01 <@brimstone> maybe 1 or 2, but not 24 thousand for being one an hour
20:01 <@Dagmar> 24,000 would be bad juju
20:02 <@brimstone> a little (sleep 30; [ $(ifconfig eth0 | grep -c "errors:0") -lt 2 ] && reboot) & in /etc/rc.local typically keeps up with it ok
20:02 <@brimstone> i need to make that log correctly though
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20:24 <@sdodson> Is there anything that would prevent me from posting misdirected e-mails sent to me online?
20:25 <@brimstone> DMCA
20:25 <@brimstone> someone just has to say it's copyrighted
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20:25 <@sdodson> For months i've been getting crap for someone else due to his misconfigured e-mail client and he's not fixing it. I figure posting confidential details of their upcoming game releases on the Internet may motivate him.
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20:29 <@brimstone> pastebin it
20:30 <@Dagmar> NINE MORE DAYS UNTIL DUKE!@#@!
20:43 <@sdodson> i pre-ordered it hoping i'd get access to the demo but that didn't happen
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21:19  * Dickie puts up his dukes
21:21 <@Dickie> mermaidstail.info
21:22 <@Dickie> oh, nsfw
21:23 <@Dagmar> <archlinux_master> i don't use archlinux
21:23 <@Dagmar> <archlinux_master> what made you think so
21:23 <@Dagmar> I'm about to tell this guy to get back on his boat and go back to piracy
21:23 <@Dagmar> (He's in Somalia)
21:23 <@brimstone> did you traceroute him?
21:23 <@Dagmar> Whois the fucker
21:23 <@brimstone> i have a gui i wrote in vb for that
21:23 <@Dickie> haha
21:23 <@Dagmar> He's been asking about why VMWare running XP with 512Mb of RAM can't run a minecraft client for his BOTS
21:23 <@brimstone> if you want
21:24 <@Dagmar> I'd have kicked him from #Minecraft but that wouldn't be enough.  Id' have to have a way to set him on fire, too
21:24 <@brimstone> tell him he needs to upgrade to 7
21:24 <@brimstone> duh
21:24 <@sdodson> brimstone: i backtraced e'm
21:24 <@Dickie> giggity
21:24 <@Dagmar> No he seriously said he needs to be able to run about 10 bots so he can mine enough cobblestone to build something
21:25 <@Dickie> Tell him to mine it himself and stop being such a slut bucket
21:25 <@brimstone> >_>
21:25 <@brimstone> ask the admin to give him some
21:25 <@brimstone> it'll be a hell of a lot easier
21:26 <@Dagmar> I did.
21:26 <@Dagmar> It's clear he's not supposed to be doing whatever the hell he's planning on doing
21:26 <@brimstone> tell him that 7 has better memory management
21:26 <@brimstone> also, he needs to be running an older version of java
21:26 <@brimstone> before it got all bloated
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21:33 <@Dagmar> Damnit I thought he was about to admit he was looking to build /cprivate furnaces to annoy people
21:34 <@sdodson> you guys are hardcore
21:35 <@Dagmar> I mean, was he seriosuly expecting us to believe any server admin would be cool with someone running a bunch of bots, but wouldn't be willing to just spawn up a ton of cobbles?
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21:35 <@Dagmar> I told him he should use KVM instead of VMWare and he asked if there was a crack for it
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21:36 <@Dagmar> ...and KVM is almost trivial to deal with now that they've got that nifty GUI for it
21:36 <@Dagmar> *click*click*click* I MADES A VM LOL
21:37 <@Dagmar> It's downright sickening
21:44 < Todd> GUI's make you wanna vomits?
21:44 <@Dagmar> In my day we had to make VMs using raw pixels uphill in the snow both ways!
21:49 <@brimstone> now we run them in our browser
21:53 <@Dagmar> You say this and I wonder if you've seen the f**king emu someone did in f**king JAVASCRIPT last month
21:53 <@Dagmar> Makes me want to kill.
21:56 <@brimstone> i have
21:56 <@brimstone> that's why i mentioned it
21:57 <@brimstone> fabric's crazy
22:08 <@sdodson> Todd: herro
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