--- Log opened Thu May 05 00:00:01 2011
01:11 <@NotLarry> Well fuck
01:12 <@NotLarry> Spent the afternoon in a highschool
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07:00 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:01 <@Evilpig> how are you irc'ing from work now?  ssh or other?
07:03 <@Dolemite> webchat
07:05 <@Evilpig> ewwww
07:05 <@Evilpig> guess I should bust out a keyboard and get back to work on the website stuff.
07:09 <@Dolemite> Man I'm so freaking tired this week.  Between having to actually do some work this past week and not getting enough sleep (thanks to my 2 year old), I need some major caffeine.
07:10 <@Evilpig> i'm back to sleeping abour 4 hours a night
07:10 <@Evilpig> I know the feeling
07:10 <@Dolemite> yeesh
07:11 <@Dolemite> That's about what Pamela has been getting.  She has a tendency to overcommit herself.
07:12 <@Evilpig> i'm just getting woken up by stupid shit
07:12 <@Dolemite> She had cupcakes to make for school today (our daughter's actual 2nd birthday is today), is making a cake for Saturday, made a cake to take to the Senior Center, and picked this week as the one where she helps the teachers at Preschool (they ask each parent to do 1 day in the year).
07:13 <@Evilpig> sent my brother in law off to rehab.  they took him to the hospital cause he was puking up blood, mother in law has been calling, ashley's ex got the court summons and is suddenly doing shit for amy
07:13 <@Dolemite> Oh so your lawyer has built up enough of a case to go to court?
07:13 <@Evilpig> 2 years of nothing and in three days he has called to see about getting her a dentist appt scheduled, an appt with the joint specialist, he is taking her to see ashley's dad
07:14 <@Evilpig> we have enough to get visitation changed.  getting the custody changed we have to prove he is unfit and she is in mortal danger
07:14 <@Evilpig> custody laws are bullshit
07:14 <@Dolemite> Well changing visitation is a big first step
07:14 <@Evilpig> yeah.  he said we have that one hands down.
07:14 <@Dolemite> What are you hoping to get?  More time, or more clearly defined time?
07:14 <@Evilpig> defined time
07:15 <@Evilpig> time without him doing shit like turning movies on in the background, loudly, when she is trying to talk to amy, not making the dog bark while trying to talk.  oh and the easiest of them all...  ANSWER THE GOD DAMNED PHONE
07:16 <@Dolemite> Has he ever pulled the BS of "forgetting" that you were driving up from TN and not being home?
07:17 <@Evilpig> not yet.  been waiting for that one
07:17 <@Evilpig> he pulls the "you haven't told me when you were coming" constantly
07:17 <@Evilpig> she has sent him the same email at least once a month for the last 6 months with all the dates in it
07:17 <@Dolemite> That has happened to my brother-in-law when trying to get his son for the weekend...   he'd drive from the Space Coast area down to Miami and when he got there...  unable to pick up his son
07:17 <@Evilpig> my favorite is the last time we were down there he claimed that we gave her lice and he wouldn't let ashley take her to the dentist and he wouldn't take her either
07:18 <@Evilpig> he endedup not canceling the appt and got pissed that they charged him and wants to take her to another dentist cause that one said that if he does that again they will refuse to see her
07:20 <@Dolemite> What, he expected dental care for free?
07:20 <@Dolemite> How many wheels does this guy still have on his home?
07:21 <@Dolemite> Oh, he got charged for not cancelling an appointment that he missed
07:21 <@Evilpig> so we picked her up from her school on friday, 2 and a half weeks ago, took herto the doctor the doctor noticed she had the pelvic rash, again, and wrote out a Rx for a cream then suggested the specialist for her joints.  we took her to ash's moms and slept for the night.  the next morning ash put her in the bath and washed her hair and found lice
07:22 <@Evilpig> ash's mom got up and watched amy while we went to the drug store to get the stuff to take care of it. ash tried to call dipshit and he wouldn't answer, so she called his mother and let them know so they could get shit cleaned up.
07:22 <@Dolemite> Take pics of the hair lice, just keep stacking up that evidence of neglect
07:22 <@Evilpig> about an hour or two later we got a call from him blaming us!  I was like wtf...  you think she has gotten full adult lice in less than 12 hours?  she had them long enough to have bites on her neck.  still not sure how the doctor didn't notice them, but that is another topic.
07:23 <@Evilpig> so we cleaned her up, treated my mother in laws house.  all is good.  we left for KY the next day.  no issues all week, went to the zoo, science center, my parents, etc.
07:24 <@Evilpig> he demanded her back on friday we said fine and drove back on thursday, which was her birthday, he was pissed that we would make her drive in the car all day onher birthday.  moron
07:24 <@Evilpig> she went back friday afternoon told him that she needed to be treated for the lice one more time the next morning, cause that would be a week, he treated her friday night, saturday morning and again sunday morning with NIX
07:24 <@Dolemite> I'll bet she still had a better time with you two on her birthday, riding in the car most of the day, than with Capt. Moron.
07:25 <@Evilpig> ashley and I called poison control.  they were NOT pleased
07:25 <@Dolemite> You should be calling DCFS
07:25 <@Evilpig> monday morning 7:30 ash called the school to inform them of the lice so they could check the other kids and if needed send a letter home.
07:25 <@Evilpig> we have been.
07:26 <@Evilpig> he got pissed cause he called them around 9 and they told him that they already knew and that he needed to bring amy by the nurse's office on the way into school so she could be checked before going back to class.
07:26 <@Evilpig> keep in mind the reason we stayed down there in VA was cause she had a school play on tuesday night.  he told ashley that he was pulling her out cause he didn't want her getting the lice back
07:27 <@Dolemite> What does his house/trailer look like?
07:27 <@Evilpig> eventually he said she was going. took her to school on tuesday, ash and I had a meeting with the teacher tuesday afternoon to find out how amy was doing.  found out that the dumbshit hasn't been telling us alot
07:27 <@Dolemite> Has he considered washing the sheets?
07:27 <@Evilpig> he lives in a nice apt.
07:28 <@Evilpig> with his g/f.  which is against VA law, but our lawyer won't push that issue, right now
07:28 <@Dolemite> So is she having problems at school?
07:29 <@Evilpig> after all this nonsense he tells ashley that they need to talk to work out a graduating scale on when amy can visit over the summer cause he thinks it would be traumatic for her to come here
07:29 <@Evilpig> yeah she is having behavioral issues and has a severe problem with roles.  she cannot distiguish what a mommy/daddy role is supposed to be
07:29 <@Evilpig> she keeps referring to her teacher and "other mommy"
07:29 <@Evilpig> and /as
07:30 <@Evilpig> ashley told him that we'll take her for a month or two in the summer and he didn't like that and said you can have her for two weeks the first time then work up from there and if you don't like it take me to court.  a few days later he got the summons we'd been working on for the last month
07:31 <@Dolemite> heh
07:31 <@Evilpig> she gets out of school june 17th and our visit is already scheduled for jun 24th.  she'll be coming back with us then
07:31 <@Evilpig> he just doesn't know it yet
07:35 <@Evilpig> i'm sure iv'e left bits out.  there was alot going on that week.  for the last month or so i've had ashley recording all of her video chats with amy as well.
07:35 <@Evilpig> got some gold in there.  stuff like him threatening amy if she doesn't behave she won't getto talk to her mother.
07:39 <@Evilpig> couple that with ashley's log of when he didn't answer when she called to talk to amy or when he claimed she was either sick, sleeping or didn't want to talk. and that should be enough to establish a pattern of him denying her access
07:39 <@Dolemite> Just make sure that you don't reveal what you have until you've got a solid case, otherwise he'll change his behavior
07:39 <@Evilpig> oh hell no.  she has been told not to tell him shit
07:39 <@Evilpig> she's not threatening, being very acomodating
07:40 <@Evilpig> I've had to get onto her about money stuff too.  he was bitching about her only giving him $65 a month, minimum in VA and she doesn't have a child support order, and she went on to tell him how she didn't have the money cause we went to the zoo, etc.
07:41 <@Evilpig> had to explain to her how that was incredibly stupid and if she wanted to say something about money mention the $600 in gas it took for us to come down andpick her up and bring her here then back again and he didn't offer to meet us even part of the way
07:41 <@Evilpig> her wanting to be nice and just get along just doesn't help most of the time
07:42 <@Dolemite> Well you don't want to bring that up - the court will point out that it was Ashley's choice to move farther away from her daughter.
07:42 <@Evilpig> it was.  but she also had no other options.  which is what the lawyer pointed out
07:43 <@Evilpig> her father is already supporting her brother and sister + sister's boyfriend and two kids
07:43 <@Dolemite> damn
07:43 <@Evilpig> at the time her mother's step-son was living with them so they had no place for her either
07:43 <@Evilpig> in the time since she has left she still hasn't worked, but we've mostly blamed that on economy, but she has almost completed her first year of college
07:46 <@Dolemite> She should do what NotLarry's first job was and start hooking.
07:47 <@Evilpig> the court seems to frown on that.
07:47 <@Dolemite> Oh, wait,  I think they call it knitting.
07:47 <@Evilpig> the lawyer even asked something along those lines.  lol
07:47 <@Evilpig> more or less he said "try to get any kinda of job as long as it isn't selling your body or illegal"
07:47 <@Dolemite> yep, go flip some burgers
07:47 <@Evilpig> she's tried
07:48 <@Dolemite> Or be the hostessbot at a restaurant
07:48 <@Evilpig> tried that too. lol
07:48 <@Evilpig> I took her to that interview
07:48 <@Dolemite> The problem is that unless you know someone that works there already, the competition for even those jobs are so high that they're hard to get
07:48 <@Evilpig> I've been amazed at her inability to get a fast food job.   they have actually turned her down saying not enough experience
07:49 <@Dolemite> I read online yesterday that McDonald's hired nearly a 100,000 people last month, but received well over 1 millions applications.
07:49 <@Evilpig> the sheer amount of people looking right now is making all those jobs competitive where normally they'd just take any jackhole off the street
07:49 <@Dolemite> yep
07:50 <@Dolemite> I hear that the NOC at VU has low standards.  She should apply there.  LOL
07:51 <@Evilpig> the newest hire takes a whopping 2 hours to make cables
07:52 <@Evilpig> and I was told my lack of experience is what is keeping me in the NOC
07:54 <@Dolemite> Well we need to work on your resume
07:54 <@Dolemite> It doesn't present a good picture of your experience
07:55 <@Dolemite> Not being mean, just being pragmatic
07:55 <@Evilpig> he claimed it was my interviews.  of course this is the third excuse he's given
07:55 <@Evilpig> i'm thinking just to abuse the system and get paper certified then see about taking up desk space someplace
07:57 <@Dolemite> Pedro is just very short sighted.   Mirage had less experience when he left the NOC and ended up being the super ninja.
08:09 <@Dolemite> Hrmm.  I guess I'll go to El Cantarito for lunch today, since it's Cinco de Mayo.
08:11 <@Evilpig> hrmm. it is indeed
08:11 <@Evilpig> i'm gonna lay here and work on this code for a bit.  then perhaps pay the rent and some bills
08:12 <@Dolemite> have fun
08:21 <@Evilpig> so I am gonna use jquery to verify the volunteer form data, but I am debating on how nice to be with the data checking on the back end
08:22 <@Evilpig> I am going to check it, of course, but do I be nice and validate then refill the form for those asshats that either have JS disabled or submitted the data through another means?
08:22 <@Evilpig> my gut says fuck them.  but my head says... we like slave labor
08:22 <@Evilpig> even bitchy ones
08:25 < Mercster> ok
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08:36 <@Evilpig> dolemite have you seen: filter_var('bob@example.com', FILTER_VALIDATE_EMAIL)  ?
08:36 <@Evilpig> was added in 5.2
08:39 <@Dolemite> nope
08:39 <@Dolemite> I'll have to check that out
08:39 <@Evilpig> it doesn't have alot of filters but the few it has I can see as being very handy
08:40 <@Dolemite> I got lots of bitching from people about just enabling cookies for sessions, so I'm sure that the bitching over enabling JS would be even more.
08:41 <@Evilpig> I got tons of bitching about last year's site cause of hte poopups based in js
08:41 <@Evilpig> this year I am working around the problem.  there is a little in there but it does minor stuff and if htey don't want to see that content they get a nagging message about it
08:42 <@Evilpig> hit this with JS and then without JS http://phreaknic.info/pn15/intro.html
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11:03 <@ware> http://www.brighttalk.com/webcast/26797
11:03 <@Dolemite> are there midgets?
11:04 <@ware> yes
11:06 <@Dolemite> Liar!  :(
11:09 <@ware> they sound like midgets
11:40 <@ware> http://www.unplggd.com/unplggd/how-to/a-quick-amp-easy-way-to-share-event-photos-144210
11:40 <@ware> NotLarry:
11:50 <@Dolemite> So I'm finding http://www.dansmc.com to be quite educational.
11:54 <@Evilpig> so the w3c says "stop using tables, we're gonna obsolete them soon"  everytime I try you just can't easily reproduce what a table can do 
11:56 <@Dolemite> yeah I tried to do that for a while and went back to tables
11:56 <@Dolemite> they just don't have a good replacement for the basic uses...   granted, some people went overboard with using tables in place of styling...
11:59 <@Evilpig> two tables.  two different methods. neither using <table> http://phreaknic.info/pn15/tabletest.html
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12:46 <@brimstone> Evilpig: i do not like the top one
12:57 <@Evilpig> the top one actually looked better though. :-/
12:58 <@brimstone> but you basically just put <div class=""> around each table tag
12:58 <@Evilpig> I turned each div into the equivilant table tag
12:58 <@Evilpig> however...  there is no colspan property for css
12:59 <@Evilpig> which is retarded if they want to depreciate table
12:59 <@Evilpig> off to lunch bbl
12:59 <@brimstone> having a value on a div that causes it to ride into another div is stupid
12:59 <@brimstone> s/div/tag/
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16:44 <@ware> so they found Osama in Abbottabad - talk Abbottabad place to hide!
16:49  * Bahhumbug groans
16:55 <@Sheath> it burns
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17:16 <@CRasH180> bah dum buh
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22:30 < daswork> There is a new Pirates of the Caribbean film?
22:30  * daswork can't tell humor news from real news anymore.
22:32 < daswork> http://www.filmcritic.com/features/2011/05/science-fiction-preview-2011/
22:32 < daswork> ^- I don't think that's a spoof.
23:03 <@Bahhumbug> there's supposed to be a new one out at some point.
23:22 < daswork> Okay, I understand that this is #se, and I'm purely #mn.
23:22 < daswork> But that being said, does anyone else feel guilty as fuck walking into a store with only one clerk, and that clerk is currently praying towards Mecca?
23:23 < daswork> I kind of want to say "Hey, I don't want to interrupt your prayers, I just came in to browse, don't confuse me with an ignorant asshat, I'll wait."
23:31 <@Bahhumbug> I grew up in Chicago, such things don't bother me.
23:39 <@sdodson> hello thar
23:48 <@sdodson> well screw you guys!
23:49 <@Bahhumbug> Hi :)
23:50 <@sdodson> Bahhumbug: sup bro?
23:50 <@sdodson> no one has torched Mercster yet?
23:52 <@Bahhumbug> not yet
23:52 <@Bahhumbug> He's not a bad guy when he's not being annoying :)
23:52 <@sdodson> Bahhumbug: I know. He doesn't understand that though.
23:53 <@Bahhumbug> It's IRC, sorta comes with the territory.
23:53 <@sdodson> ZOMG CLOUD!
23:53 <@Bahhumbug> playing with a new super-sekret el6 rebuild.
23:54 <@sdodson> super secret?
23:54 <@sdodson> Bahhumbug: Just in time for 6.1!
23:54 <@Bahhumbug> unknown to the public at this point.
23:54 <@sdodson> Is it called Balls Deep Linux?
23:54 <@Bahhumbug> although little turds are being dropped regarding it in centos space.
23:54 <@Bahhumbug> heh, no.
23:54 <@sdodson> Ahw, why?
23:54 <@Bahhumbug> although... that's not a bad name :)
23:54 <@sdodson> Why not just help centos?
23:54 <@Bahhumbug> because CentOS is having... issues.
23:55 <@Bahhumbug> and unable to get their shit together and get C6 out the door.
23:55 <@Bahhumbug> hell, 5.6 just dropped only 2 weeks or so ago.
23:55 <@sdodson> Call it CCentOS Cloud Centos, you could host your build infratstructure IN THE CLOUD!
23:56 <@Bahhumbug> heh - this project is at it's core, a one-man show.  amazingly enough, much like CentOS.  Except this one has a beta out that works where as CentOS doesn't even have trees to QA at this stage.
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