--- Log opened Fri Apr 15 00:00:44 2011 00:18 -!- ls3 [~fbar@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-home] by ChanServ 01:21 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:51 -!- timoguin [~tim@184.106.95.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:52 -!- timoguin [~tim@184-106-95-170.static.cloud-ips.com] has joined #se2600 04:22 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 07:57 -!- ls3 [~fbar@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 08:43 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:38 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@75-27-133-72.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 09:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 09:51 -!- polerin [~erin@c-68-52-5-200.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o polerin] by ChanServ 09:52 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@c-98-240-124-66.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:52 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@c-98-240-124-66.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 09:52 -!- ZombieChicken [~none@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has joined #se2600 10:02 <@Dagmar> !$!!ROFL!!$! @ Penny Arcade 10:03 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@75-27-133-72.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:09 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has joined #se2600 10:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 10:25 < sasquatc4> wow, so our IT VP needs to be fired 10:26 < sasquatc4> some people here have out of band pcs, which IT leaves completely unprotected, unpatched XP boxes with no virus protection, one of the engineers got a virus 2 days ago, the fuckin vp said to fire him and walk him out 10:26 < sasquatc4> the IT vp, not even his own boss, luckily the engineering vp's didnt take that shit 10:30 < oddball> damn... I used to work at a company that would not have many folks left if they went by that standard. 10:30 < oddball> (my boss kept sneaking around behind me giving people admin rights to their boxes after agreeing with me that that's a bad idea) 10:31 < jim_ec2> lulz, so glad I'm in a unix only environment 10:31 < sasquatc4> yea, its rediculous, dude is back today 10:31 < sasquatc4> well we are half linux half windows, we use windows boxes mainly for email and some testing stuff, all dev is done on the linux side 10:32 < jim_ec2> i compromised at this employer because they bought me a mac pro 10:32 < oddball> Yeah... this was a medical provider. It's not really feesable to shift away from Windows in that case. 10:32 < jim_ec2> os x isn't that bad, but generally I've always had a linux workstation as my primary 10:33 < jim_ec2> one place i worked couldn't give me a straight answer as to whether i could install linux on their workstation, so i brought in one of my spare workstations 10:39 < sasquatc4> its funny i think they are searching his one pc for anything that can save their asses but they wont find anything, i mean if we want to watch porn we have like 100 channels to choose from and all the streaming on demand content we could want 10:39 < sasquatc4> we dont have to use our pcs 10:41 <@ware> jim_ec2: nice! 10:41 <@ware> i want a MBP 10:41 <@ware> never ranan apple os before 10:41 < jim_ec2> it's not bad at all really, unix under the hood 10:45 < jim_ec2> macports is really what made it feel like home with all my gnu tools 10:50 < eryc> waste of money 10:51 < eryc> i guess the only redemption is doing exchange + unix 10:54 < ls3> I think the ThinkPad W series owns MBP. 10:55 < ls3> http://shop.lenovo.com/us/products/professional-grade/thinkpad/w-series/index.html 10:59 < jim_ec2> exchange? 11:01 < jim_ec2> i think apple makes really good quality equipment 11:02 < jim_ec2> i don't buy into the whole proprietary end of things like itunes ilife iwork etc 11:47 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-254-248.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:47 -!- Dolemite [~scott@96.60.254.248] has joined #se2600 12:20 <@Dagmar> I think Apple doesn't make any equipment. 12:20 <@Dagmar> Just like Dell, they subcontract Foxconn to make it. 13:10 <@Dagmar> I so want to take a pic of bone-nosed bushmen and tag it with text along the lines of "8 out of 9 bushmen agree IE9 supports HTML" "IE9: The only browser with *Native* HTML support." 13:44 < jim_ec2> lulz 13:44 < jim_ec2> @apple comment, yeah i'm aware they aren't a manufacturer but their specs are of a lot higher caliber than dell 13:50 <@Dagmar> The same factory makes both,man 13:50 <@Dagmar> You know the place. 13:50 <@Dagmar> It made news last year for having like twelve employees jump from the roof in the space of six fuckin' months 13:52 <@Corydon76-home> One wonders when Foxconn takes a page from Acer and starts putting out PCs which simply assemble their own components 13:56 <@opticron> we don't need replicators... 13:56 <@opticron> bad shit happens 13:57 <@sdodson> hi 13:57 <@CRasH180> hi 13:57 <@opticron> hi 13:57 <@CRasH180> HHHHIIIIIIIII!!!! 13:58 <@sdodson> hi 14:00 <@Husky> hi 14:00 <@sdodson> what's news? 14:03 <@opticron> minor points of celebrities' lives, now days 14:04 < eryc> half of all meat in the us is infected 14:04 < eryc> libya mission is regime change 14:04 < eryc> portal 2 is almost out 14:04 <@Husky> infected by what? i feel fine 14:06 <@opticron> and that's why you cook your food THOROUGHLY 14:06 <@opticron> Husky, drug-resistant S. aureus 14:06 <@opticron> apparently resistant to 3 kinds of antibiotics 14:06 <@CRasH180> eryc: I buy my meat locally from a local farmer that raises the cows, pigs, etc the right way. 14:07 <@Corydon76-home> opticron: wouldn't that be beef only? Not like you can undercook chicken or shrimp, but still... 14:07 <@opticron> can't? 14:08 <@Corydon76-home> No, I meant that undercooked chicken and shrimp is unpalatable 14:09 <@opticron> to some 14:09 <@opticron> many people eat raw shrimp 14:09 <@Corydon76-home> whereas undercooked beef is pretty par for the course 14:09 <@Corydon76-home> Ugh 14:09 <@opticron> raw chicken...not so much 14:10 <@Corydon76-home> opticron: generally, though, people who eat "raw" shrimp are actually eating LIVE shrimp 14:10 <@ware> lol 14:11 <@CRasH180> "help me! HELP ME!!!!", screams the shrimp as it is about to be eaten 14:11 <@Husky> so im at risk for staph infection? 14:12 <@Corydon76-home> Husky: no, completely different bacteria 14:12 < eryc> so why don't they recall half of all meat 14:12 <@sdodson> eryc: so cook it 14:12 <@Husky> Staphylococcus aureus 14:12 <@Husky> staph 14:12 <@Husky> not the same thing 14:13 < eryc> says the laymen 14:13 <@ware> sup eryc 14:13 < eryc> nada 14:13 <@ware> fuck any dudes lately? 14:13 < eryc> learning git 14:14 < eryc> yea a few 14:14 <@ware> haha werd 14:14 <@sdodson> eryc: i know git 14:14 <@sdodson> eryc: i'm super 14:14 * opticron knows a little git 14:14 <@Corydon76-home> eryc: if it's true that it's been detected in half of all meat, then a recall is probably in progress 14:14 <@ware> yah git teh titties 14:14 <@opticron> his name is ware :D 14:14 <@sdodson> git is nice 14:14 -!- polerin [~erin@c-68-52-5-200.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:14 <@Husky> i like my steaks medium, not burnt to a crisp, sorry 14:15 <@ware> opticron: yall @ notacon? 14:15 <@sdodson> you guys are pansies, just eat your meat 14:15 <@ware> srs 14:15 <@Husky> ill take my risks with illnesses 14:15 <@Corydon76-home> sdodson: that's what he said 14:15 <@opticron> ware, I am not 14:16 <@opticron> some are 14:17 -!- polerin [~erin@c-68-52-5-200.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:18 < eryc> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/04/food-resistant-staph/ 14:19 <@opticron> food resistant? 14:19 < eryc> want me to read it to you 14:20 <@Husky> yes 14:20 <@Husky> read it like a bedtime story 14:21 <@Husky> i wanna be shitting staffs in my sleep 14:29 <@Dagmar> eryc: this is why we cook meat with FIRE 14:29 <@Dagmar> :) 14:29 <@Dagmar> There are no fire-resistant staphs 14:31 < eryc> C. perfringens is found in soil, dust and the gastrointestinal tracts of animals and man. When food containing a large number of C. perfringens is consumed, the bacteria produce a toxin in the intestinal tract that causes illness. C. perfringens can exist as a heat-resistant spore, so it may survive cooking and grow to large numbers if the cooked food is held between 40 degrees F and 140 degrees F for an extensive time period. Meat and poultry dishes, sau 14:32 <@Dagmar> Fire > 140F 14:32 < eryc> Botulism accounts for fewer than one of every 400 cases of food poisoning in the U.S., but two factors make it very important. First, it has caused death in approximately 30 percent of the cases; and secondly, it occurs mostly in home-canned foods. In 1975, for example, 18 or 19 confirmed cases of botulism were caused by home-processed foods, and the other was caused by a commercial product that was mishandled in the home. Cl. botulinum can exist as a hea 14:33 <@Dagmar> So the moral here is don't cook your kebobs in a Ready-Bake Oven 14:33 < eryc> the first thing says eat it immediately or reheat >165 14:33 < eryc> storing at <140 causes the bacteria to zombify 14:34 < eryc> B. cereus is found in dust, soil and spices. It can survive normal cooking as a heat-resistant spore, and then produce a large number of cells if the storage temperature is incorrect. Starchy foods such as rice, macaroni and potato dishes are most often involved. The spores may be present on raw foods, and their ability to survive high cooking temperatures requires that cooked foods be served hot or cooled rapidly to prevent the growth of this bacteria. 14:34 < eryc> http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/extension/poison.html 14:40 <@Corydon76-home> The temperature has now be revised upward to 170F 14:40 < eryc> oh and re: the staph in the wired article 14:40 < eryc> When S. aureus is allowed to grow in foods, it can produce a toxin that causes illness. Although cooking destroys the bacteria, the toxin produced is heat stable and may not be destroyed. 14:40 <@Corydon76-home> It was 165 10 years ago 14:41 <@Corydon76-home> eryc: that's also why it's important to keep meat cooled below 40F until you're ready to cook it 14:42 < eryc> the just prevents growth 14:42 <@Corydon76-home> None of this is new or surprising 14:42 < eryc> the toxin is still there from the packaging 14:42 <@Corydon76-home> eryc: and why the packaging should be kept cool from the processing plant onwards 14:43 < eryc> i'm not sure why you're telling me that 14:43 < eryc> i'm not the FDA! 14:43 <@Corydon76-home> eryc: because the bacteria can only produce the toxin when warm enough to do so 14:43 <@Corydon76-home> FDA isn't in charge of food safety. That's the USDA 14:43 <@Dagmar> You seem to be bothered by the idea that some bacteria might survive a half-assed job of cooking on a hotplate 14:44 < eryc> i'm not the *A! 14:44 < eryc> nah i'm not bothered at all 14:44 < eryc> i'm just promoting family values 14:45 <@Corydon76-home> There are only two things that have changed, here. One is the arisal of antibiotic-resistant bacteria, and the other is the temperature at which you must cook meat to kill all bacteria. All other points of food safety have been constant for the past 25 years 14:46 <@Corydon76-home> If the food industry is still getting it wrong, there is something seriously wrong with the industry 14:48 <@Corydon76-home> Or maybe it just points to the fact that Americans are eating way too much meat 14:48 < eryc> yea eat more V 14:48 <@Corydon76-home> Legumes 14:49 <@Corydon76-home> and grains 14:49 < eryc> i was thinking vagina 14:49 <@Corydon76-home> I prefer dick, myself 14:50 < eryc> cooked? 14:50 <@Corydon76-home> Here, Peaches Peaches Peaches... 14:50 <@Corydon76-home> bbl 15:10 <@Husky> spotted dick 15:23 <@Dagmar> Jesus these shifty little cell phone shops in west nashville are getting ridiculous 15:24 <@Dagmar> Just two of them are flooding out the cell phone forum on Craigslist 15:24 <@Dagmar> LIke 80% of the posts are just them 15:25 <@Dagmar> I'm seriously considering posting some of their contact information in other places so they might perhaps learn the meaning of 'spam flood' 15:26 <@Dagmar> "26yo asian sub looking for new master. Call and leave a message telling me what you want to do to me and the most inventive left today gets a new slave. 301-1880" 15:26 <@Dagmar> Gotta be good for a few dozen phone calls all by utself 15:32 <@Dagmar> Tim Buckley is a pussy 15:33 <@Dagmar> He let race baiters make him change his goddamn comic today 15:46 -!- VampirePenguin [~vp@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin] has joined #se2600 15:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v VampirePenguin] by ChanServ 16:06 -!- Bahhumbug [~jrd@unaffiliated/gerdesas] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:07 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 16:08 -!- Bahhumbug [~jrd@unaffiliated/gerdesas] has joined #se2600 16:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by ChanServ 16:15 < polerin> meh. anyone have experience with the dlink dwl-3140's? Adding to an existing network, trying to get it working without having to fiddle with the existing switch's ip 16:16 <@Corydon76-home> http://www.whitehouse.gov/taxreceipt 16:28 <@Dagmar> polerin: tell it it's a replacement for a unit you took out 16:29 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: We should get Rattle to help fix that page 16:29 <@Dagmar> It mentions not one thing about how much of the taxes are going to pay the interest on the debt to the FED 16:29 <@Dagmar> I think *that* number would get some people's fucking attention 16:31 <@Dagmar> "This year 83% of the money you paid in taxes didn't go towards keeping America running, but actually went straight into the pockets of a banker." 16:32 <@Dagmar> Taking into account the recent bailout pillaging, folks would flip 16:34 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: Last item 16:35 <@Corydon76-home> "Net Interest 7.4%" 16:38 <@Corydon76-home> and that would be a FOREIGN banker, btw 16:51 < polerin> Dagmar: there's no existing AP's, just two switches that should work for discovery 16:51 < polerin> but aren't 16:52 < polerin> it's not even showing up in the list 16:52 < polerin> LLDP and SNMP are enabled in the switch 17:18 <@sdodson> WHAT IS LLDP? 17:19 < polerin> cake 17:49 -!- unixfg [~ryan@virtual.ghruaim.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24 -!- CRasH180 [~kmeldridg@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:38 -!- VampirePenguin [~vp@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin] has quit [Quit: VampirePenguin] 19:58 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:01 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@74.166.75.102] has joined #se2600 20:20 -!- unixfg [~ryan@virtual.ghruaim.net] has joined #se2600 20:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfg] by ChanServ 20:32 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 20:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 20:33 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Client Quit] 22:25 <@Dagmar> Taxes... FILED. 22:25 <@sdodson> Good job. 22:25 <@sdodson> My interest free loan to the government was shorter than yours. 22:31 <@Dagmar> WTf. 22:32 <@Dagmar> Fringe aired freaking letterboxed & pillarboxed 22:36 < sasquatc4> sometimes affiliates fuck up 22:40 <@Dagmar> Holy crap two THOUSAND milligrams of LSD? 22:40 <@Dagmar> Holy jumping shit 22:41 * Dagmar hugs himself in terror 22:41 <@Dagmar> I guess they didn't fact check that one 22:43 <@Dagmar> For those unaware, that's enough to get four thousand people pretty messed up 22:52 -!- Bahhumbug_ [~jrd@gerdesas.gerdesas.com] has joined #se2600 22:54 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-53-104-117.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:54 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-53-104-117.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 22:54 -!- Bahhumbug [~jrd@unaffiliated/gerdesas] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:56 -!- polerin [~erin@c-68-52-5-200.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:57 -!- polerin [~erin@c-68-52-5-200.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:28 -!- Bahhumbug_ is now known as Bahhumbug 23:28 -!- Bahhumbug [~jrd@gerdesas.gerdesas.com] has quit [Changing host] 23:28 -!- Bahhumbug [~jrd@unaffiliated/gerdesas] has joined #se2600 23:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by ChanServ 23:29 <@Dagmar> LOL @ Broyles --- Log closed Sat Apr 16 00:00:44 2011