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09:47 <@Dagmar> Anyone know of a sane place to get a decent/used Android phone?
09:47 <@Dagmar> (In Nashville)
09:48 <@Dagmar> I am pretty damn sure this 'Cellmax' guy on Craigslist is selling damaged phones as new
09:50 <@brimstone> with a name like that
09:51 <@Dagmar> Yeah, either that or the dude's a fence
09:51 <@Dagmar> He seems to have too many clean ESNs to be a fence tho
09:52 <@Dagmar> If it were a fence, I could deal with that--if I wasn't seeing posts to the effect of "he sold me a water-damaged phone with replaced stickers"
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10:11 <@Dagmar> My main concern now is avoiding anything like an actual Sprint rep because frankly, I'd rather get arrested for shoving a cell phone up someone's ass (...yes, literally) than be forced to pay for both a data plan I don't need *and* a "premium data add-on"
10:12 <@Dagmar> I have only violence in my heart for monopolists and their ways.
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10:21  * Mercster stares
10:35 < Todd> Dagmar: swappa.com
10:35 < Todd> m0j0-j0j0 used it to purchase his current phone..
10:43 <@ShadowHntr> Dagmar: i spent $150 on an LG Optimus V with Virgin Mobile
10:43 <@ShadowHntr> and i spend $60/month for everything, unlimited everything
10:44 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.virginmobileusa.com/cell-phones/lg-optimus-v-phone.jsp
10:45 <@ShadowHntr> Virgin uses Sprint's network
10:47 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
10:47 <@ShadowHntr> hey Scott
10:47 <@ShadowHntr> how's ORNL
10:47 <@Dolemite> glowing
10:47 <@ShadowHntr> lol
10:47 <@ShadowHntr> blue or green
10:47  * Dolemite scratches his third ass cheek
10:47 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL
10:51 <@Dagmar> ShadowHntr: So it uses GPRS?
10:51 <@Dagmar> er CDMA?
10:51 <@ShadowHntr> yes
10:51 <@ShadowHntr> and EVDO for data
10:51 <@ShadowHntr> 3G
10:51 <@ShadowHntr> unfortunately no 4G
10:51 <@Dagmar> Hmm... I know Sprint has repeaters all over campus.  I'll have to ask around and see who has Virgin here
10:52 <@ShadowHntr> best buy has the phone, and they'll price match on the phone against virgin's website
10:52 <@Dagmar> My main problem is that I am more or less stuck with Sprint if I want any cell reception at the office
10:52 <@ShadowHntr> print out the page
10:52 <@ShadowHntr> on virgin and bring it to best buy (i hate best buy, but that was the only price here in virginia i found that had the phone)
10:52 <@Dagmar> Yeah but Best Buy generally won't sell you even a screen protector without a contract
10:52 <@ShadowHntr> i got it w/o
10:52 <@ShadowHntr> no pressure
10:52 <@ShadowHntr> they asked, i declined, and that was that
10:53 <@ShadowHntr> i pay $5/month to virgin for phone insurance
10:53 < Mercster> i got my droid X from best buy with no contract
10:53 < Mercster> of course it was ridiculously expensive
10:53 <@Dagmar> ...and I mean it when I say I'm more likely to shove a phone up someone's ass than I am to pay some $10/month "yew gots a fancy-pants phone" fee
10:53 < Mercster> they had no problem selling it to me
10:53 <@opticron> what does the fee actually get you?
10:53 <@Dagmar> Sprint attaches that to pretty much every new phone now
10:53 <@ShadowHntr> opticron: a replacement phone if it breaks, FOR ANY REASON
10:53 <@Dagmar> opticron: Not a fucking thing
10:54 <@opticron> ok, they try to tack on a phone insurance fee
10:54 <@opticron> gotcha
10:54 <@Dagmar> The $10 "premium data plan" is literally just $10 extra they tack on for having this yeasr's model
10:54 <@Dagmar> What Shadow has is actual insurance I'm wagering
10:54 <@ShadowHntr> yeah
10:54 <@ShadowHntr> $25 deductible and i get another handset
10:55 <@ShadowHntr> the $60/month includes everything but sales tax
10:55 <@ShadowHntr> no extra fees, no quotas on the data plan
10:55 <@Dagmar> I'm paying $45/month at the moment IIRC
10:55 <@ShadowHntr> well if you have a smartphone already then keep your existing plan by all means :)
10:57 <@Dagmar> There's part of the problem right there
10:57 <@ShadowHntr> i've tried pricing out a smartphone and plan with sprint
10:57 <@ShadowHntr> with all the fees it'd be like almost $100/month
10:57 <@Dagmar> Whether or not I have a smartphone shouldn't even figure into it since I *only want cell telephony service* from them
10:57 <@ShadowHntr> *shrug*
10:58 <@Dagmar> ...but they literally won't sell you an unsubsidized phone, which is how they get around the assfucking they do to their customers
10:58 <@Dagmar> ...and with the subsidization you have no choice about, you are required to have a data plan.
10:59 <@Dagmar> ...and if you get this year's model, the data plan costs and extra $10.
10:59 <@Dagmar> s/and/an/;
10:59 <@Dagmar> So yeah, I'm not paying that, and I'm particularly not paying that if I actually buy the phone outright
11:00 <@Dagmar> Here we are near the end of the month, and for my $42.87 (after taxes afaik because I'm looking at the Sprint site) I have used 62/450 minutes and 80/300 SMS messages
11:02 <@Dagmar> Another completel shit thing Sprint does...
11:03 <@Dagmar> So you have your 450 "Anytime" minutes, right?  ...and your "unlimited" nights and weekends minutes
11:03 <@Dagmar> Yeah, so when you make a call during the nights & weekends time period, what they don't tell you is that it counts against *both*
11:04 <@Dagmar> So... you actually use up your "anytime" minutes, *any* time you use the phone
11:05 <@ShadowHntr> that's not how it worked with at&t/cingular, but i guess sprint operates differently
11:05 <@ShadowHntr> :/
11:05 <@ShadowHntr> anyhoo
11:05 <@ShadowHntr> back to work
11:07 <@Dagmar> Lack of competition == fucking customers in the ass
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11:07 <@Dagmar> I could stand to pay $60/month if it meant they stopped pulling this reindeer game bullshit
11:07 <@Dagmar> Todd: by the way thanks for that link.  That might come in handy in the future
11:08 <@Dolemite> Sprint doesn't count your night/weekend minutes against your anytime minutes, unless they made a one off mistake.
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11:14 < eryc> i have sprint
11:14 < eryc> whats not to like
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11:15 < eryc> someone pass me the hatorade
11:15 <@ShadowHntr> lol
11:16 <@Dolemite> I've had Sprint for 10.5 years, now.  I've had good service from them and they are still the least expensive in the long run.  But I don't have the weird requirements that Dagmar does.
11:25 <@sasquatc4> +1, been with them like 7 years now
11:25 <@sasquatc4> <3 sprint
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12:00 <@Dagmar> I don't see that not using a data plan is all that weird.
12:01 <@Dagmar> ...and Sprint has been taking from both my anytime and nights/weekends pools at the same time for months now
12:01 <@Dolemite> Not wanting a data plan, but wanting a smartphone that is designed specifically for data plans, IS weird.
12:03 < Mercster> yeah, im not sure why you'd want a smartphone without a data plan
12:03 <@Dagmar> It's designed with the assumption that you'll want to use it for inadvisable things like checking your email in a ar
12:03 <@Dagmar> er car
12:03 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm pretty much soaked in wifi transmissions 23 hours of the day.
12:03 <@Dolemite> Then get a feature phone and a tablet and hush.
12:04 < Mercster> heh
12:04 <@Dagmar> I already carry around enough dinky electronic devices.
12:04 <@Dagmar> Bluetooth earpieces (two), a netbook, the cell phone... and a PDA before I got a more advanced phone
12:04 <@Dagmar> Add the work laptop to that and all the associated cables with them and it starts to become rather cumbersome
12:04 < Mercster> smartphones are the new PDA
12:05 <@Dagmar> Yeah and I pretty much *just* need it to be a PDA that can make calls
12:05 <@Dagmar> I don't get lost in Nashville.
12:05 <@Dagmar> It's practically impossible for me to get really lost anywhere in Middle Tennessee for all the driving around here I've done
12:06 < Mercster> k
12:06 <@Dagmar> Even the few times I've deliberately gone into hillbilly territory I've had a solid idea of which major highways and roads were around on all sides
12:07 <@Dagmar> I hadn't been to Columbia in about 5 years when I ditched some frat boys out there on the churt roads while I was in college
12:07 <@Dagmar> I passed one of my aunt's houses on the way back
12:07 <@Dolemite> Here, let me speak for Sprint:  "Dear customer.  Thank you for your confidence that we both have the resources and give-a-shit to solve your specific problem.  Best of luck in your search for what would be an unprofitable circumstance for us or any other carrier.  Have a great day!"
12:07 <@Dagmar> The conversation the next day when they caught up with me was pretty funny
12:08 <@Dagmar> They make a profit just fine off my voice calls.
12:08 <@Dagmar> I don't need them for anything else, and I strenuously object to the idea of paying them five times as much for a service I already have through someone else
12:09 <@Dagmar> Seriously, 3 cents per K is why I've got blocks in my phone to keep it off the EVDO network
12:09 <@Dolemite> See, you're focusing on only one leg of the triangle:  resources, profitability, give-a-shit.
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12:53 < Todd> Dagmar: welcome
12:55 < Todd> I still want an n900.
12:55 < Todd> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41WXRZlQecL.jpg
13:07 <@Dagmar> So long as they keep courting The Great Satan, Nokia is dead to me.
13:07 <@Dagmar> Dead!
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14:36 <@AlStrowger> Hilarious.
14:36 <@AlStrowger> It is on my watch list
14:36 <@AlStrowger> Thank you.
14:37 < Mercster> yup
15:19 < Mercster> you didnt think...that i could sit around and let you go?
15:26 < Mercster> its da METHOD MAN, for short, mister METH
15:26 < Mercster> MOVIN' ON YO LEFT!
15:47 < ware> who admins planet nashville 2600?
15:47 < ware> Evilpig: Dolemite:
15:47 < ware> can you take me off it
15:47 <@AlStrowger> Why?
15:48 <@AlStrowger> Are trying to look for a job
15:50 < ware> neg
15:50 < ware> just filling up my apache logs
15:50 < ware> http://planet.nashville2600.org/
15:53 < Mercster> haha
15:56 < ware> 74.94.253.81
15:56 < ware> 71.236.38.82
15:59 < ware> anyone else?
15:59 < Mercster> issa OUTRAGE! </Dagmar>
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16:15 < Mercster> my smile is stuck...
16:15 < Mercster> i cannot go back to your frownland
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19:02 <@sdodson> hi
19:38 <@brimstone> hi
20:02 <@sdodson> brimstone: what's new bro?
20:09 <@brimstone> playing with phonegap
20:09 <@brimstone> it's pretty neat
20:10 <@brimstone> allows me to maintain one codebase with a few slight modifications and have it work across several platforms including the web
20:10 <@brimstone> even works on your palm
20:10 <@sdodson> how was outerzone?
20:10 <@sdodson> My Panda Board shipped today!
20:11  * sdodson looks into phonegap
20:13 <@brimstone> outerz0ne had good talks
20:14 <@brimstone> i didn't party hardly at all, had other... obligations
20:14 <@brimstone> the closing lasted 4 days, as usual
20:15 <@sdodson> brimstone: closing?
20:15 <@sdodson> oh nevermind
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23:27 <@Dagmar> OH MY GAWD!!!
23:27 <@Dagmar> FACEBOOK IS DOWN!
23:27 <@Dagmar> WHATEVER SHALL WE DO?!?!?
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23:43 <@rhia> Dagmar: um, just a wild assed idea, but, possibly, get a life? <G>
23:44 <@Dagmar> It's just sarcasm.
23:44 <@Dagmar> I'm going to stop looking at woot now
23:45 <@Dagmar> The last thing I need is a *heavily* underpowered LInux machine
23:45 <@Dagmar> From looking around I probably stand a better chance of getting Linux on it fully-working than about half the people on the 'literati devs' forum, but screw it
23:46 <@Dagmar> Sharper Image put out a branded eReader called the Literati which apparently they got a completely shit company to make the firmware for, everyone hated it, and now it's on woot for $50
23:46 <@Dagmar> ...but it runs ARM Linux
23:47 <@Dagmar> For not much more I could get one of those underpowered chinese 7" tablets with a touchscreen
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