--- Log opened Mon Mar 21 00:00:20 2011 00:53 < forgottenwizard> Is it random hug day in freenode? 00:53 < forgottenwizard> someone hugged me in #archlinux earlier 00:59 * Mercster hugs forgottenwizard 01:07 < forgottenwizard> great. Now I need a shower 01:08 -!- AlStrowger [18d3f955@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.211.249.85] has joined #se2600 01:08 -!- AlStrowger [18d3f955@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.211.249.85] has left #se2600 [] 01:11 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@96.5.81.157] has joined #se2600 01:11 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@96.5.81.157] has quit [Changing host] 01:11 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 01:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 01:19 -!- AlStrowger [JWilde@i.cant.resist.temp.tation.org] has joined #se2600 02:13 < Mercster> kenny rogers' jackass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if27InJBtEI 06:14 -!- cordless-work [~cordless@69.67.30.95] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:14 -!- cordless-work [~cordless@69.67.30.95] has joined #se2600 07:50 * AlStrowger has already started drinking. 08:10 -!- mgalgoci [~pid@2001:470:e33b:0:219:d2ff:fe64:763f] has quit [Quit: (Read error: Connection reset by peer)] 08:22 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-254-248.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 08:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 08:22 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:22 < ware> wtf 08:23 < AlStrowger> Yea. I take offense to the morning part. 08:24 <@Dolemite> Be that as it may, it is a fact. It is currently morning here. I make no assertions to the quality of your morning. 08:24 -!- VampirePenguin [~vp@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin] has joined #se2600 08:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v VampirePenguin] by ChanServ 08:57 < Mercster> what's so great about it 09:00 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.nandomedia.com] has joined #se2600 09:00 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-169-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:00 -!- VampirePenguin [~vp@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:03 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-169-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mog] by ChanServ 09:30 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.133] has joined #se2600 09:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 09:48 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-169-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:50 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-169-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mog] by ChanServ 10:25 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.133] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 10:28 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:30 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has joined #se2600 10:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 10:31 < Mercster> ill fuckin... 10:31 < Mercster> ill fuckin... 10:33 < eryc> fuck you 10:36 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:36 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has joined #se2600 10:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 10:49 <@Dagmar> Awesomeness http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/03/etsy-users-irked-after-buyers-purchases-exposed-to-the-world.ars 11:02 < Mercster> whores 11:04 < AlStrowger> Who shops at etsy anyway? Hipsters? 11:13 < Dickie> Your mother 11:22 < K4k> Well hello fellow Outerz0ne survivors 11:37 <@Dagmar> AlStrowger: Apparently, the more discriminating dildo buyer 11:37 <@Dagmar> ...although I've gotten some jewelry from there 11:37 <@Dagmar> I suppose if you're in Georgia, having it known that you mail ordered a dildo from the internet could be construed as a big deal 11:38 <@Dagmar> I think they're still giving the death penalty for that in some counties 12:06 < AlStrowger> I hear. Men buying dildos. Next thing you know women will vote. 12:09 < ware> http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/outerz0ne-2011-hacker-con 12:13 < AlStrowger> Yeah! I am glad you made it back safe, btw, Mr. Ware. 12:13 < ware> ty me too, was a bit inebriated friday :) 12:17 < AlStrowger> We all were.... We all were. 12:17 <@Dolemite> ware : When are you not inebriated at a con? 12:17 < AlStrowger> Sometimes he blacks out 12:17 < AlStrowger> and can't drink anymore 12:18 <@Dolemite> he's still inebriated when blacked out, though 12:18 <@Dolemite> just because there's a line of people waiting to tea bag and stack him it doesn't mean his BAC has dropped that much... heh 12:18 < AlStrowger> There might be a brief moment when he is unconscious and not drinking that his liver catches up. 12:20 < ware> blah i dont black out 12:20 * Dolemite stacks ware with dirty socks 12:21 < AlStrowger> That is gross. 12:23 <@Dagmar> http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/sprint-integrates-google-voice.html 12:23 <@Dolemite> yeah, I saw that... interesting 12:23 <@Dagmar> Sprint gets to keep taking my money awhile longer I guess 12:27 * ladymerlin hugs AlStrowger 12:27 < AlStrowger> Hey! 12:27 < AlStrowger> I am glad you made it home safe 12:28 < ladymerlin> you too 12:28 * AlStrowger hugs ladymerlin back 12:28 < AlStrowger> I had a great time. 12:28 < AlStrowger> It was good see everyone. 12:28 < ladymerlin> :) it was great to see you 12:41 * Dickie glares at ladymerlin 12:47 * ladymerlin glares at Dickie 12:50 < Mercster> :| 13:03 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 13:31 < AlStrowger> If anyone is flying to CarolinaCon and thinks they may need transportation to and from the Airport, please contact me. I am devising a plan. 13:35 < ware> does it involve a limo? 13:35 < ware> ive never been to cc 13:36 < AlStrowger> Well.. Ware.. it could for you 13:37 < AlStrowger> But I hear limos don't float. Which is always a surprise to the Kennedys. 13:37 < ware> haha 15:04 <@Dagmar> Heh 15:28 <@Dagmar> http://www.etsy.com/listing/62096403/steampunk-usb-drive-rusted-industrial 15:57 <@Dagmar> ...also LOL http://nashville.craigslist.org/mcy/2275918839.html 15:58 <@Dagmar> Cute little thing those are 16:02 <@Dagmar> Fucking windows admins 16:02 * Dagmar mimics "but changes to the application require an all-day uninstall and reinstall" 16:03 * Dagmar rages about fucking windows users being trained to uninstall and reinstall shit instead of modifying a goddamn config file 16:10 < AlStrowger> I am sure modifying the config file directory will "render the configuration unsupported". 16:10 < AlStrowger> directly* 16:31 <@Dagmar> no, the user in question is just a freaking Windows junkie 16:31 <@Dagmar> There's just a wee bit of elitism here in that some of the windows admins still think I'm somehow *new* to Unix 16:32 <@Dagmar> Like what... the... fuck 16:34 <@Dagmar> One big damn clue is they think they need to actually run scripts on the database host to create the tables and users 16:34 <@Dagmar> One admin actually asked me how much I liked working with Linux 16:34 <@Dagmar> ...and I shit you not, the tone was that he thought I had just learned it while I was in the noc 16:36 <@Bahhumbug> n00b 16:49 <@ANGRY> so, Dagmar, how DO you like working with Linux? 16:50 < AlStrowger> Wow.. This is hacker love. Trolling. It is like dinner with family. 16:51 <@Dagmar> Angry; IT R LIKE FAPPING AT WERK AT MAH DESK ALL DAI LONGS! 16:51 * AlStrowger sighs. 16:51 < AlStrowger> Definately like a family dinner. 16:52 <@Dagmar> heh 16:56 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.133] has joined #se2600 16:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 16:57 -!- Shadow404 [~Shadow404@c-76-20-201-88.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:00 <@ANGRY> So, Dagmar, no real change from the NOC eh? 17:06 <@Dagmar> Something like that 17:18 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.nandomedia.com] has quit [Quit: Comments like that are why you have no friends] 18:39 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@66.54.185.133] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 18:45 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: well, there is a big advantage to running a SQL script against the database to create tables and users: the script can be checked for errors by multiple people before it's run. Not so much if you're typing on the command line 18:46 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but it generally doesn' thave to be run *on* the database host 18:46 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, heh 18:46 <@Corydon76-home> Well, I suppose that also depends upon database permissions 18:47 <@Dagmar> Mainly I think the former admin is just being over-protective and trying to avoid even the remotest possibility that someone else might break their stuff 18:47 <@Corydon76-home> Interesting idea: that you need to have ssh to the database host in order to create tables/users 18:47 <@Dagmar> I'm just going to wait until the inevitable happens and see if I can shoehorn proper ways of doing things into the fix that will be needed 18:47 <@Corydon76-home> That's not a bad idea, though it is somewhat naive to think that only inexperienced users can break the database 18:47 <@Dagmar> 'cuz among other things, the subsystem in question isn't properly governed by an init script 18:48 <@Dagmar> I figure the first time that thing fails in the middle of the night I'll have an easy avenue to argue that point 18:49 <@Dagmar> Gonna probably run a little exploratory script tomorrow to get rpm to cough up what few packaged files have been changed, and just diff that from a find / (more or less) 18:49 <@ANGRY> wow,Corydon76-home, you say the funiest things 18:50 <@Dagmar> I find the idea that the entire thing has to be installed and uninstalled by Oracle's script to be completely hilarious 18:50 <@ANGRY> checked by multiple people to prevent errors 18:50 <@ANGRY> too many fingers spoil the stew, or something like that:) 18:50 <@Corydon76-home> ANGRY: I say this, while it appears that one of the commands I ran just caused the database to hang 18:50 <@Dagmar> Yeah if that happened someone would have noticed the selinux warnings 18:51 <@Dagmar> Id' push harder if this weren't actually a pretty monstrous subsystem 18:51 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: Yeah, well, if Oracle won't support it unless you used their scripts, then you use their scripts... 18:52 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: I think if I RPMd it up they'd worship me 18:52 <@Dagmar> If for no other reason than it would reduce installation time dramatically 18:52 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: Nah, the whole point of the script (in Java) is that it's an identical install on Linux, AIX, HPUX, Solaris, and various other platforms. 18:53 <@Dagmar> This one appears to be a big fat unzipp 18:53 <@Corydon76-home> Still, it's an identical process on all platforms 18:53 <@Dagmar> ...and considering the zip itself is marked as for a specific version of RHEL, well.... heh 18:53 <@Dagmar> Even a post-install script that lets Java do it's thing would be preferable 18:54 <@Dagmar> Plus the whole "roll selinux support into it" issue 18:54 <@Corydon76-home> Even unzip (!) is different between Linux and Solaris. Think of the differences in shell scripts and various other tools 18:56 <@Corydon76-home> I agree that it's annoying not to use native packaging methods, but it's to save Oracle support techs, not to make it easy for local administrators 19:03 * Bahhumbug sets oracle on fire for chuckles and grins 19:36 < eryc> unzip is not different between solaris and linux 19:36 < eryc> next 19:37 * eryc sets Bahhumbug on fire for the lulz 19:38 < eryc> in fact s11x has a newer version of unzip than centos 5.5 19:45 < AlStrowger> I hate oracle. 19:45 < AlStrowger> And they owe me 25000 of support 19:45 < AlStrowger> For their bug 19:45 <@Bahhumbug> doesn't everyone hate oracle? 19:46 < AlStrowger> Larry Elison 19:46 < AlStrowger> Doesn't 19:46 <@Bahhumbug> fuck Elison 19:46 < AlStrowger> because he squeezes that Ubreakable shit sack for his paycheck 19:46 <@Bahhumbug> But that's probably true. 19:46 <@Bahhumbug> gag 19:47 <@Bahhumbug> Unbreakable is a joke. 19:47 < AlStrowger> Oracle wrecked my P&L for a whole quarter 19:47 < AlStrowger> I hate them. 20:43 -!- unixfg [~ryan@216.37.94.122] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:45 -!- mtown_nerd [~jhester@216.37.94.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:57 -!- forgottenwizard is now known as ZombieChicken 22:11 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-169-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:15 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-169-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mog] by ChanServ 22:27 <@sdodson> AlStrowger: when on earth did you find IRC? 22:28 < AlStrowger> sdodson, I was on IRC a long time ago 22:28 < AlStrowger> I decided I should be connected to the community again. 22:29 * sdodson tries to decide if he wants to bother reading the scrollback or not 22:29 < AlStrowger> Na 22:29 < AlStrowger> Just people bitching about Oracle 22:30 < AlStrowger> So ages ago I was on DALnet and 2600.net 22:30 < AlStrowger> but.. I think this is fine for me now. 22:32 < eryc> Dagmar: you can just tgz oracle up, its nothing special 22:32 < eryc> or rpm if that makes you happy 22:32 <@sdodson> we of course roll rpms for oracle 22:33 < AlStrowger> Or flush it down the shitter 22:33 * eryc rolls up an rpm and smokes it 22:35 < AlStrowger> RPM is fine 22:35 < AlStrowger> Oracle, bleeec 22:35 <@sdodson> everyone is beating up on amazon today 22:36 < AlStrowger> Why? 22:36 <@sdodson> err wait msft went after b&n not amazon 22:36 <@sdodson> Apple sued them for app store patent shit. 22:36 <@sdodson> trademark, not patent 22:36 <@sdodson> i'm just full of misinformation, i think i'll stop 22:38 < eryc> what 22:38 <@sdodson> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-21/apple-sues-amazon-com-over-use-of-app-store-trademark.html no need to read the actual article, the url says it all 22:39 <@brimstone> unless you see the link in a url shortner because you're not watching the channel 22:39 < eryc> so.. MSFT vs BN, AAPL vs AMZN 22:39 < eryc> brimstone: huh 22:40 <@sdodson> link shorteners for IRC just tell me you're too inept to run a decent client or terminal 22:40 <@brimstone> lines with urls from any channel get shortened and copied to my server window 22:40 <@brimstone> so i don't have to keep every window visible all the time 22:40 < eryc> why shorten them 22:40 <@brimstone> it's a small window :/ 22:41 <@brimstone> the terminal doesn't understand how weechat wraps lines 22:41 <@brimstone> if they're shorter, they're clickable 22:41 < AlStrowger> Links shortners scare me 22:41 < eryc> so you have a list like: bit.ly/blahva^M ht.ly/9ad^M ? 22:41 < eryc> how is that useful 22:42 < AlStrowger> How is it safe? 22:42 < AlStrowger> It could be anything. 22:42 < AlStrowger> It could be a XSS before a redirect 22:42 <@brimstone> AlStrowger: it could, and that's where a plugin like RequestPolicy steps in 22:42 <@brimstone> and noscript 22:42 < AlStrowger> blah 22:42 <@brimstone> not a final solution, but they help 22:42 < AlStrowger> Sure... 22:42 < AlStrowger> It is a bad solution for a shit problem 22:43 <@brimstone> tell us how you really feel :) 22:43 < AlStrowger> people with bad web object naming schemes 22:43 < eryc> got any other cool plugins 22:44 < eryc> im installin requestpolicy now 22:44 <@brimstone> eryc: Pentadactl, Tab Mix Plus, urlbarExt, Tamper Data, Camelizer, Inivisbile hand, HTTPS-Everwhere to name a few 22:45 <@brimstone> *Pentadactyl 22:50 <@sdodson> the internet is so confusing 22:50 <@Husky> i cant co mputer 22:50 <@Husky> nor type 22:50 <@sdodson> coil: hey 22:51 <@Husky> sup sdodson 22:51 <@sdodson> coil: not much 22:52 <@Husky> where were you 22:52 <@sdodson> coil: when? 22:52 <@Husky> last weekend 22:56 <@sdodson> coil: ya ishould have headed down to atlanta, i thought i was going to be busy with work and visitors 22:57 < eryc> brimstone: thanks i installed half of those! 22:57 <@brimstone> cool 23:00 <@Husky> first attempt at crimping an ethernet cable: failure 23:00 <@sdodson> brimstone: I'm just glad to see you haven't defected to using google chrome. 23:00 <@brimstone> bump chrome 23:00 <@brimstone> webkits cool, but i support a different rendering engine 23:01 <@Husky> i herd foxfire wuz g00d 23:01 <@sdodson> brimstone: why do you say that? i just don't trust google any more than i'm forced to 23:01 <@brimstone> markets need competition 23:02 <@sdodson> coil: the key is stripping more than necessary and then cutting them evenly once you have them all lined up. 23:02 < eryc> brimstone: thats why we have safari dude 23:02 <@Husky> oh nice, ill keep that in mind 23:02 <@brimstone> and competition needs supporters 23:02 <@brimstone> safari is webkit! and it doesn't work in Stallman's OS 23:03 <@sdodson> Hurd? 23:03 <@brimstone> sure 23:04 < eryc> yea i know its webkit, its not google tho! 23:04 <@sdodson> I wonder why HP is so hot to push WebOS on desktops. 23:04 < eryc> they heard you liked it 23:05 < AlStrowger> Competition for ChromeOS? 23:05 < AlStrowger> But I don't understand how they fills out the HP product portfolio. I don't see what business problem that would solve for HP's typical market segments 23:06 <@sdodson> ya, that 23:06 < eryc> HP sucks 23:07 <@Husky> i know 23:08 <@sdodson> I prefer that they picked up Palm over anyone else i can think of. 23:08 <@sdodson> maybe Amazon 23:11 < eryc> they're gonna ruin it 23:11 <@sdodson> there wasn't much left to ruin 23:11 <@sdodson> oh, in case you were wondering, fried broccolli gives you gas 23:12 < eryc> you fried broccoli? 23:13 <@sdodson> no, i ate out 23:13 < eryc> hey what was that hardware fault monitor thing you showed me the other day? 23:13 < eryc> ah, cool 23:14 < eryc> i've never seen that on a menu 23:14 < eryc> someone else showed me this http://www.mcelog.org/index.html 23:14 <@sdodson> i was expecting it to be breaded when i first heard of it, but it wasn't, it's just broccolli flash fried 23:15 < eryc> meh 23:15 <@sdodson> mcelog is what i mentioned to you 23:15 < eryc> it should be breaded and cheesed up 23:15 < eryc> broccoli poppers 23:15 < eryc> oh 23:15 < eryc> are you sure? 23:15 <@sdodson> when you were yammering on about how advanced that dead OS from Oracle is 23:16 <@sdodson> EDAC maybe? 23:16 < eryc> yea that was it 23:17 < eryc> its less dead than your Palm shit 23:17 < eryc> so there 23:18 < eryc> i want to try to build a box with that lxc project and see if i can make it work like solaris zones 23:19 < eryc> you mess with lxc? 23:19 <@sdodson> no 23:19 <@ANGRY> le sigh 23:20 <@ANGRY> looking for an airsoft sniper rifle 23:36 < eryc> sdodson: nevermind lxc is not mature yet 23:42 <@CRasH180> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if27InJBtEI 23:48 <@CRasH180> damn it. My copy/paste is borked 23:48 <@CRasH180> time to fix 23:59 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log closed Tue Mar 22 00:00:20 2011