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00:06 <@brimstone> so you'd think, at some point someone would have written a little app that downloads the most recent version of these various standalone scanners and automate running them
00:21 <@Corydon76-home> brimstone: isn't that what SANE is supposed to do?
00:22 <@brimstone> i dunno, what's sane?
00:22 <@brimstone> i get results for scanner apps
00:22 <@brimstone> sorry, i meant anti-virus and malware scanners
00:22 <@brimstone> not image scanners
00:22 <@brimstone> hehe
00:23 < dsockwell> standalone scanners?  you mean tools specific to one piece of malware?
00:23 <@brimstone> nah, like, stinger, kaspersky's got one, trendmicro's got one
00:24 <@brimstone> they use the full defs file, but they just do a simple pass over a file, directory or whole drive
00:24 <@brimstone> no real time stuff, no automatic updates, etc
00:24 <@brimstone> f'n perfect for a live cd or live usb deal
00:26 <@Dagmar> So you'd think at some point someone would make one of those that has a list of signatures for the stuff you SHOULD have installed
00:26 <@Dagmar> Blacklisting is still for bitches
00:27 <@brimstone> yeah, whitelist and do some heuristic stuff
00:27 <@brimstone> check for a mass of known good files for your supposed OS, then check anything else that looks executable
00:28 <@brimstone> throw them all back at "the cloud" and see what other people are using,e tc
00:29 <@Dagmar> For mainstream systems like WIndows 7 and OSX, that would put a fucking end to viruses going undetected
00:31 <@Husky> what about keygens and shit that arent whitelisted
00:31 <@Dagmar> What about them
00:31 < dsockwell> you shouldn't be using keygens anyway
00:31 < dsockwell> they will be obsolete in the new order.
00:31 <@Dagmar> At least if you have to manually *permit* the binary to run you have a fighting chance of restricting what it does
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02:10 <@Corydon76-home> but there's also the problem of systems like Android, where the permissions are all-or-nothing
02:10 <@Corydon76-home> You cannot selectively permit some things and prohibit others
02:11 <@Corydon76-home> You should be able to, but it's not supported on Android platforms
02:12 <@Corydon76-home> That is the Trojan Horse problem all over again.
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06:24 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:25 < Mercster> it's morning again in america
07:53 <@Dolemite> Heh, wow, Mars Needs Moms is so craptastic, apparently, that it's already down to only 3 showings a day after opening weekend over at Regal Pinnacle.
07:53 <@Dolemite> Tron: Legacy is at the 2 dollah theater
07:54 <@Evilpig> I think I have crossed into a level of wtf that is rarely seen
07:54 <@Evilpig> I'm at home, openvpn'd into my own network.
07:57 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: do you happen to remember what the hotel charged us for meeting space for PN5?
07:57 <@Evilpig> make that 6,  6 was the ramada right?
08:05 <@Dolemite> Yeah, the Ramada, which is now the Holiday Inn Express
08:05 <@Dolemite> They charged $1200 for the space, but we got a $7/room night credit towards that
08:05 <@Evilpig> that covered all three spaces?
08:06 <@Dolemite> Hang on, let me see if I can find my spreadsheet from that year
08:06 <@Evilpig> k
08:06 <@Evilpig> gathering intel for the wave.
08:06 <@Evilpig> opinions, etc
08:07 <@Dolemite> Nope, can't find it
08:07 <@Dolemite> But I seem to recall that it was around that much.  I had to pay some of that - we didn't get it fully credited.
08:08 <@Dolemite> I paid somewhere around $600 after the credits.  That works out to about 45-50 rooms x 2 nights each, so that sounds about right.
08:09 <@Evilpig> corydon, notlarry and I need to have a meeting soon and either work a deal with our current venue or explore possible alternates.  get shit set in stone early and get the promotion going
08:17 <@Dolemite> By the way, if you ever start using the Geist CDU's (which I like better than the Server Tech in terms of their interface) I have made a data query for Cacti.
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16:54 <@Dagmar> Fucking HILARIOUS
16:54 <@Dagmar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1q9eqhT5UM
16:55 <@Dagmar> Julian Assange pretty much ambushing the Australian PM on live television
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22:31 <@Dagmar> The new video on bankofamericasuck.com is awesome
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