--- Log opened Fri Mar 11 00:00:16 2011
00:56 < Mercster> apparently, japan is fucked
00:56 < ZombieChicken> howso?
00:56 < Mercster> monster quake
00:56 < Mercster> 8.9
00:56 < Mercster> tsunami
00:56 < ZombieChicken> that should be interesting
00:57 < Mercster> http://twitpic.com/48dj2o
00:59 < Mercster> Tsunami hits Japan after 8.8 magnitude earthquake
01:02 < ZombieChicken> japan times didn't mention it. I guess the reporters havn't paddled into work yet
01:02 < Mercster> CNN  right now
01:02 < Mercster> THE TSUNAMI IS ON FIRE
01:02 < Mercster> AND IM NOT FUCKING JOKING
01:03 < Mercster> holy shitballs
01:03 < ZombieChicken> yup. It is in my rss right now
01:03 < Mercster> 8.9
01:03 < Mercster> oh the humanity
01:04 < ZombieChicken> that does seem serious
01:05 < Mercster> tsunami warnings for russia
01:05 < Mercster> guam
01:05 < ZombieChicken> yeah
01:05 < Mercster> taiwan
01:05 < ZombieChicken> I'm sure that will hit the mainland
01:05 < Mercster> this is fucking huge
01:06 < ZombieChicken> literally
01:08  * Mercster stares 
01:08 < Mercster> my god
01:09 < ZombieChicken> it is the End of Times
01:09 < ZombieChicken> heh
01:09 < Mercster> my
01:09 < Mercster> god
01:12 < ZombieChicken> good thing Japan is somewhat used to those kinds of things
01:12 < Mercster> yeah
01:13 < Mercster> that's the one saving grace
01:13 < ZombieChicken> iirc, Tokyo was built with earthquakes in mind
01:13 < Mercster> it's not like indonesia or elsewhere
01:13 < ZombieChicken> New Orleans
01:13 < Mercster> most buildings made from cardboard and staples
01:13 < Mercster> japan has better infrastructure
01:13 < Mercster> but still
01:14 < ZombieChicken> that can be a goos thing at times
01:14 < Mercster> this is fucking bad
01:15 <@Bahhumbug> there is a major tectonic plate just east of the island chain; this is an area of major seismic activity and always has been, but there have been 3 enormous quakes in the past 2 hours.
01:16 < ZombieChicken> the entire perimiter of the Pacific is seismically active
01:18 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: ?
01:18 <@Bahhumbug> largest was 8.9, followups at 6.8 and 7.1.  those are not "aftershocks", those are quakes in their own right.
01:19 < Mercster> ya thanks for the newsflash
01:19 < Mercster> we were already talking about it
01:19 <@Bahhumbug> is there a reason you haven't done the world a favor and killed yourself yet, Mercster?
01:19 < Mercster> ill assume your personal attack against me is the result of jealousy and envy
01:20 < Mercster> btw (we were already talking about the earthquake)
01:20 < Mercster> (we didnt need your useless input)
01:20 < Mercster> :-)
01:20 <@Bahhumbug> No, just sick of your bullshit.
01:20 < ZombieChicken> Bahhumbug: Rough day?
01:20 <@Bahhumbug> no where in the discussion were the additional quakes mentioned.  So you can kindly just go fuck yourself.
01:20 < Mercster> what bullshit is that, pointing outb that we're already talking about stuff you decided to volunteer, like you're some kind of fucking expert
01:21 < Mercster> or you know more than someone else
01:21 < Mercster> you dont
01:21 < Mercster> and you sound like an ass
01:21 < Mercster> so be quiet
01:21 < Mercster> <ZombieChicken> Bahhumbug: Rough day? <-- tell me about it...
01:21 <@Bahhumbug> ZombieChicken: no more than usual.
01:21 < Mercster> listen if you and your wife are fighting, that's *your*b problem
01:21 < Mercster> dont start taking it out on people on irc
01:21 < Mercster> aaaaaaanyway
01:22 < ZombieChicken> Mercster: stop acting like asshole towards people
01:22 < ZombieChicken> live longer that way
01:22 <@Bahhumbug> go shove your hand in the nearest sharps disposal bin and contract something incurable, ok?
01:22 < Mercster> i knew about the quake before you did :)
01:22 < Mercster> sorry :)
01:22 < ZombieChicken> he pointed out the size of the 'aftershocks', which you didn't mention
01:24 <@Bahhumbug> Actually, dipshit, I doubt it highly.  I've been busy actually doing work, something you apparently don't do much, if any, of.
01:24 <@Bahhumbug> But reports have been on nanog since the initial shocks died down.
01:24 < Mercster> <@Bahhumbug> there is a major tectonic plate just east of the island chain; this is an area of major seismic activity and always has been, but there have been 3 enormous quakes in the past 2 hours. <-- his first post, the "aftershocks" arent prominent
01:24 < Mercster> the only thing promonent is "HEY I KNOW STUFF ABOUT PLATE TECTONICS AND JAPAN, LISTEN TO ME"
01:25 <@Bahhumbug> I guess you missed the "but there have been 3 enormous quakes" part of that?
01:25 < Mercster> "I KNEW STUFF BEFORE YOU DID"
01:25 < Mercster> "WAAAAAAAAAAH"
01:25 <@Bahhumbug> sigh
01:25  * Mercster hands Bahhumbug a tissue
01:25 <@Bahhumbug> useless cunt
01:25 < Mercster> siiiiiigh
01:25 < Mercster> lol
01:25 < Mercster> yer a pussy
01:25 < Mercster> shuttup
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01:25 <@Husky> OMG THE WORLDS COMIN TO AN END
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01:26 < Mercster> :-)
01:26 <@Bahhumbug> Husky: if it is I wish Mercster a 1st row seat.
01:26 < Mercster> that's cute, you wish death on me?
01:26 < Mercster> you take irc pretty seriously, dont ya
01:26 < Mercster> you fuckin pussy :)
01:26 <@Bahhumbug> Yep.  One less asshole consumer in the world is a bonus.
01:27 < Mercster> yeah yeah
01:27 < Mercster> "blah blah blah, i know stuff!"
01:27 < Mercster> dagmar junior
01:27 <@Bahhumbug> Hardly.
01:28 <@Bahhumbug> But seriously....  About the only thing you're really good for would be a test subject used in medical experimentation; at least then you might be able to make a contribution to society.
01:29  * Mercster nods
01:29 < Mercster> why dont you call me hitler next
01:29 < Mercster> that'll complete your loser trifecta
01:29 < ZombieChicken> Hitler had better people skills?
01:30 < Mercster> 1) I KNOW STUFF YOU JUST TYPED!  2)  i wish you were dead  3) you're hitler
01:30 < Mercster> you're a real winner, bro :
01:30 <@Husky> someone is drunk
01:31 < ZombieChicken> no, this is how he always is. I think so, anyways
01:31 <@Husky> yah always drunk
01:31 <@Husky> ;p
01:31 < Mercster> Husky: seriously, how inebriated do you have to be to tell someone you wish they'd die in medical experiments
01:31 < ZombieChicken> Husky: this may be true
01:31 < Mercster> lol, Bahhumbug is drunk
01:32 <@Bahhumbug> Unlike you I'm not a drunk.
01:32 <@Bahhumbug> Unlike you I actually hold down a job.
01:32 <@Bahhumbug> Might care to give that a try sometime.
01:33 < Mercster> <@Bahhumbug> there is a major tectonic plate just east of the island chain; this is an area of major seismic activity and always has been, but there have been 3 enormous quakes in the past 2 hours. <-- looooool
01:35 <@Bahhumbug> Be sure and repeat the same "argument" again, Mercster, and be sure not to comment on that which apparently strikes close to home.
01:36 < Mercster> 4 million without power
01:36 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: im ignoring you from now on, you're an obvious troll. buhbye :)
01:37 < Mercster> man, towns completely swamped
01:37 < Mercster> people on roofs waving flags
01:37 < ZombieChicken> Husky: It's like watching two japanese fishing fish, only one decided to try breathing out of water too much
01:37 < Mercster> reminds me of new orleans
01:39 < Mercster> hawaii under tsunami warning
01:41 < Mercster> yen falls sharply
01:41 <@Bahhumbug> Mercster continues rambling.
01:41 < ZombieChicken> I should open a channel and have all my RSS feeds poured into it
01:59 < Mercster> "there is no reason to believe radioactive materials were compromised"
02:00 < Mercster> i.e. radioactive materials was probably compromised, but dont freak out about it
02:00 < Mercster> ive never seen waves on fire before. crazy.
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12:58 < m0j0-j0j0> Mercster: I don't want you to die
12:58 < m0j0-j0j0> I need someone to keep me looking like a complete asshole
12:59 < m0j0-j0j0> and Hitler falls short sometimes
13:57 <@Corydon76-home> I want a law that says legislators shall be held financially responsible for the costs to legally defend blatantly unconstitutional legislation, as determined by the attorney general.
13:59 <@Corydon76-home> If that won't keep legislators in shape, I don't know what will.
14:00 <@Dagmar> *boggle* http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=218655
14:00 <@Corydon76-home> And treble the expenses for legislators that introduce said legislation which later passes and is thrown out by the courts
14:01 < Dickie> Corydon76-home: A troll would then start suing regions around the country to remove all their draconian non-enforced laws that are unconstitutional until they're bankrupts.
14:02 < Dickie> bankrupt
14:02 <@Dagmar> I fail to see that as a detractor.
14:02 < Dickie> You just want to see the world burn
14:02 <@Dagmar> No, I just want to see legislators who don't do their jobs go away
14:02 <@Corydon76-home> Dickie: No, no, the fees go back only to legal expenses, and they only count against legislators who are still alive
14:03 < Dickie> So what, go after the sponsors?
14:03 <@Corydon76-home> Dickie: and probably, for constitutionality of this law itself, it can only go after laws passed forthwith
14:03 < Dickie> heh
14:03 < Dickie> ok
14:04 <@Corydon76-home> Dickie: Right, if legislators thought through their legislation before they passed it, then we wouldn't have this mess
14:04 <@Corydon76-home> Think about it.  What legislator is going to introduce stupid legislation that "might" be unconstitutional if he thinks he's going to be paying for it for 10 years?
14:05 < Dickie> "blatantly" unconstitutional?
14:05 < Dickie> because there are some things that are tough calls and ultimately taken to court
14:05 < Dickie> I can't type today.
14:06 <@Corydon76-home> Dickie: obviously so, as determined by the attorney general of the state
14:06 < Dickie> That wouldn't get you far.
14:06 <@Corydon76-home> You need some arbiter
14:06 <@Corydon76-home> Dickie: it would in Tennessee, because the attorney general is appointed by the Supreme Court
14:06 < Dickie> The attorney general of southern states may not feel some things are "blatantly" unconstitutional
14:07 <@Corydon76-home> So the attorney general here is completely a legal scholar
14:07 < Dickie> I thought they were all elected officials.
14:07 < Dickie> Except for the federal one
14:07 <@Corydon76-home> Not in Tennessee, no
14:07 < Dickie> ok
14:08 < Dickie> Appointed by TN Supreme Court.
14:08 <@Corydon76-home> Supreme Court is nominated by the governor and confirmed by the legislators, and their appointment is subject only to a confirmation vote by the general populace; otherwise, membership on the Supreme Court of TN is for life
14:09  * Dickie remains pessemistic
14:10 < Dickie> If it's Tennesseans voting for Tennesseans who appoint a Tennessean...
14:10 < Dickie> present compant excluded
14:10 <@Corydon76-home> I might have the way to get on the Supreme Court incorrect, but it avoids a lot of the politics
14:11 <@Corydon76-home> Dickie: in essence, you can get on the TNSC by appointment, and you're subject to recall by the general populace
14:11 <@Corydon76-home> but you're never 'running' against anybody
14:12 <@Corydon76-home> I think it may be that the TN Bar Association picks a slate, and the governor has to choose from the slate
14:13 <@Corydon76-home> So appointment to TNSC means that you've impressed a lot of lawyers
14:13 < Dickie> I'll conceed it would be more difficult to pass such blatantly unconstitutional legislation if there are more studious people involved.
14:14 <@Corydon76-home> Republican efforts to elect the attorney general notwithstanding, I think de-politicizing the courts like that is a great way to go
14:14 < Dickie> But the general assembly would be overwhelmingly full of charismatic politicians, and not lawyers
14:15 < Dickie> or judges
14:15 <@Corydon76-home> Dickie: and how do you make the general assembly listen to legal opinions?
14:15 <@Corydon76-home> Dickie: I think if you make them financially responsible, they'll listen
14:15 < Dickie> Hit them?
14:15 < Dickie> That should be the voters' responsibility
14:16 < Dickie> To be educated enough to elect competent people.
14:16 <@Corydon76-home> That's tyranny by the majority
14:16 < Dickie> Already is
14:16 <@Corydon76-home> Yes, but we try to avoid that as best we can already
14:16  * Dickie shrugs
14:16 <@Corydon76-home> Otherwise, there would be no point to having a Constitution
14:17 < Dickie> Supreme Court isn't without politics, though.
14:17 <@Corydon76-home> US SCOTUS isn't, but TN SCOTUS largely is
14:17 <@Corydon76-home> Err, SCOTN, rather
14:17 < Dickie> SCOTN
14:17 < Dickie> heh
14:18 <@Husky> SCORTUS
14:18 < Dickie> Did you say appointed by the governor?
14:18 <@Corydon76-home> from a slate picked by the Bar Association
14:19 < Dickie> Right, right.
14:19 < Dickie> I'm sure that takes a lot of the politics out.
14:19 < Dickie> Unless the bar is politicized!
14:19 < Dickie> DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUN
14:19 <@Corydon76-home> The governor can only reject the slate twice before he or she must pick a candidate
14:20 <@Corydon76-home> The Bar Association is the corpus of all lawyers who are licensed to practice within the state
14:21 < Dickie> yeah
14:21 <@Corydon76-home> which, when you think about it, makes sense.  SCOTN _should_ be a very legally minded group
14:22 < Dickie> as impartial as humanly possible, ideally
14:23 < Dickie> I still say voters should be more responsible.
14:23 <@Corydon76-home> The one time that SCOTN got a little political was when they made an unpopular decision, and some police groups raised money to recall some of the members, which they succeeded in doing.
14:23 < Dickie> Otherwise the concept of representative democracy is a sham
14:23 < Dickie> What decision was this?
14:24 <@Corydon76-home> Look up 'Penny White'
14:26 < Dickie> I see.  Driven by personal belief rather than legal precedence or constitutionality.
14:27 < Dickie> That's impressive
14:33 <@Corydon76-home> What's interesting about the case for which Justice White was targeted was that she concurred in an opinion that threw out one particular death penalty on a technicality, while simultaneously not prohibiting the prosecutor from retrying and getting another death penalty imposed.
14:35 <@Corydon76-home> http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/mar/03/death-penalty-convicted-murderer-rapist-richard-od/
14:35 <@Corydon76-home> Hey, the case even has recent news
14:40 <@Corydon76-home> In other news, we have Darwin Award candidates today:  http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-crescent-city-harbor-destroyed-20110311,0,1559190.story
14:41 <@Corydon76-home> Every news outlet has only been telling people for 6 hours to get the fuck away from the shoreline, if you're still there and swept into the sea.....
14:43 <@Dagmar> THey should maybe build out of something stronger than balsa wood
14:43 <@Dagmar> Those waves weren't even all that big
14:44 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: I have no doubt about the strength of water, having lived through the May Floods
14:45 <@Corydon76-home> but when CNN is telling people, get a mile away, 500 feet above sea level, and you're still there, you deserve it
14:45 <@opticron> yeah...they were less than 10ft on the west coast
14:45 <@opticron> they were more than 30ft in japan
14:46 <@Dagmar> I've been seeing positively orgasmic reporting from the surfers in SoCal
14:46 <@Corydon76-home> opticron: apparently, you ALSO underestimate the power of the tsunami
14:46 <@Dagmar> THey're in 'OMGYAY' mode out at Big Sur
14:46 <@opticron> I know what they can do, but I've never experienced one
14:46 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: yes, there's something to be said for stupid people in large groups
14:47 <@opticron> 10ft can destroy a bunch of shit, but it's nothing compared to 30ft
14:47 <@Dagmar> 7ft's just about fuckin' right for mad surfing
14:47 <@Corydon76-home> opticron: I haven't experienced one, either.  I'm going to listen to the experts and get the fuck out of their way, too
14:47 <@opticron> yeah...if the tsunami guy is running away from the beach, I'm going to keep up with him
14:47 <@Dagmar> let's also keep in mind that surfers ARE equipped for that
14:47 <@Dagmar> ...sort of by default
14:48 <@Dagmar> THey'er wearing swim clothes, they have a big-ass floating board on a tether, and they came to get wet
14:49 <@Dagmar> This is a far cry from some asshat in tivas and cargo pants picking up seashells and gawking
14:51 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: there's also the average intelligence, or should I say, average-below-intelligence, of surfers in general
14:52 <@Corydon76-home> "Dude, I almost drowned.  I'm gonna go out there and do it again!"
14:57 <@Dagmar> No, surfing waves are what surfers DO
14:58 <@Dagmar> It's what surfing pretty much *is*
14:58 <@Dagmar> It's not like you're going to find any oceans with a slope in 'em
15:10 <@Corydon76-home> Surfing on a tsunami is kind of like hang-gliding in a tornado.  You probably can, but it seriously calls into question your sanity for trying it.
15:12 <@Dagmar> It's just a big wave.
15:12 <@Dagmar> Storms bring in large waves
15:12 <@Corydon76-home> and a tornado is just a big wind
15:12 <@Dagmar> Nope.
15:13 <@Dagmar> With respect to being on the surface of the water where surfers do their thing, ther'es not a lot of difference
15:14 <@Dagmar> Now, if they were standing on the shore when it comes in, it would be another matter
15:14 <@Dagmar> Out in the water, they can roll over the top of the wave any time they like
15:14 <@Corydon76-home> And what happens when the wave comes a lot closer to shore, hitting the sides of buildings and cars?
15:15 <@Dagmar> By that time surfers have gone over the top and are waiting for the next one
15:16 <@Corydon76-home> I'm sure people who hang-glide in a hurricane have much the same argument
15:16 <@Corydon76-home> "Dude, you can!!"
15:17 <@Dagmar> No, because they're not trying to be twits about something they've not looked into
15:18 <@Corydon76-home> I know people have died on the California coast, from the tsunami.  That's enough looking for me
15:18 <@Corydon76-home> Actively taunting Mother Nature just isn't something I'm into
15:40 <@Bahhumbug> Darwin.  If they want to be retards and "surf" a tsunami, let 'em.  if they get to close to shore (and the floor of the oceans rises too quick for them to compensate for) they are dead.  one less idiot in the world.
15:41 <@Bahhumbug> s/to close/too close/
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15:54 <@Dagmar> Clearly you don't watch my Facebook feed too closely.  Heh
15:54 <@Dagmar> OLD MAN WINTER IS A BITCH
17:41 < Dickie> Gah!  First an earthquake in New Zealand, now Japan, and a devastating tsunami.  Not to mention a radiation leak at a nuclear power plant.
17:41 < Dickie> Thanks a lot, gay marriage.
17:42 < Dickie> Couldn't leave well enough alone.  Had to go and invoke the wrath of God.
18:09 < Mercster> my tummy hurts :(
18:09  * Mercster curls up beside Bahhumbug 
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18:33 < eryc> according to youtube the wave that hit the coast wasn't impressive
18:50 <@Dagmar> Miracle of miracles, Comcast didn't power down my tuner box this week
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19:23 <@sdodson> hi
19:23 <@sdodson> Dagmar: get ur unetbootin uworkin
19:31 < eryc> http://i.imgur.com/q0cuU.png
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21:05 <@Dagmar> Oh lord...
21:05 <@Dagmar> Walter's smokin' up with the nighttime security monitor
21:06 <@sdodson> Dagmar: DOOOOO IT!
21:06 < Mercster> mmmm
21:09 <@sdodson> Mercster: how's your pre?
21:10 < Mercster> you punk
21:10 < Mercster> you know damn well i have a droid X
21:11 <@sdodson> Mercster: Oh, is that the predececssor to the Pre?
21:11 < Mercster> no it's 10x better
21:13 <@sdodson> Mercster: It's an iPad2?
21:14 < Mercster> enjoy your 6000 apps looooooool
21:15  * sdodson cries
21:18 < Mercster> im kiddin
21:18 < Mercster> i dunno, i have a couple of friends who are diehard about webOS
21:18 < Mercster> i guess it has most the important stuff, i dunno
21:19 < Mercster> but i like androis, and i like the droid X hardware
21:19 < Mercster> so, whatever
21:19 < Mercster> android rather
21:19 < Mercster> i think webOS is probably the better half of palm phones; the hardware is what seems to be lagging
21:20 < Mercster> sounds like webOS multitasks better than android. but, i dont really have a problem with the way android does it
21:20 < Mercster> it aint perfect, but it's workable
21:21 < Mercster> like most platforms, i guess
21:21 < Mercster> someone once said, all software sucks, some software just sucks less
21:21 < Mercster> i hopw that wasnt ESR
21:23 < Mercster> mm seems to be _A_
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21:32 <@sdodson> Pre3 has really nice hardware
21:32 <@sdodson> I wonder when it'll be available.
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21:54 < eryc> http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-03-11-tsa-scans_N.htm#
21:56 <@sdodson> eryc: ain't skeered
21:57 < eryc> sup
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21:58 < eryc> ZombieChicken: stfu
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21:59 < ZombieChicken> eryc: yeah, that was definatly called for
22:01 <@sdodson> ZombieChicken: I agree.
22:22 < Mercster> (i hate your face)
22:35 <@Bahhumbug> little children at play.
22:39 <@sdodson> Slow children at play.
22:39 <@Bahhumbug> :)
22:39 <@sdodson> man, webos-internals dudes are leet
22:41 <@sdodson> Sprint hasn't released an OS update so they download the Verizon restore rom explode it patch it and make it work with sprint devices all via scripts in a publicly available git repo
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