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06:06 <@Evilpig> anyone alive that can help me troubleshoot a little js quirk?
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07:29 < Dickie> The spice will flow
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09:55 <@Dagmar> Woot.com has the Chumby One at the moment for $49.  You want one.
10:01 <@Evilpig> are they still having a wootoff?
10:01 < Dickie> NO
10:01 < Dickie> Do I want a chumby?
10:02 <@Evilpig> they're neat little toys
10:03 < Dickie> Oops, can't.  Outerz0ne.
10:03 < Dickie> Gotta save my pennies!
10:03 <@Evilpig> imo chumby > outerz0ne
10:03 <@sasquatc4> is it just like an info type appliance? shows you weather and news and such?
10:04 <@Evilpig> yar.  but it can be modded fairly easily
10:05 <@sasquatc4> hmmm, tempting, if anything it can be a super fancy alarm clock for 50$, wonder how the alarm works tho if your connections down
10:07 < Dickie> Should still have a clock on board.
10:07 < Dickie> Just syncs like your PC.
10:07 < Dickie> (I would imagine)
10:07 <@sasquatc4> yea, but if you have it set to use an online radio station, or anything streaming, and it goes off without a connection, just wonderin what happens
10:07 < Dickie> ah
10:08 < Dickie> http://www.chumby.com/pages/learn_alarm
10:09 < Dickie> That's actually really cool.
10:09 <@sasquatc4> ahh, there it is, they have a loud beeping alarm if the primary alarm source is down
10:11 < Dickie> I was actually looking for something to display the google calendar.
10:11 < Dickie> Thought about making my own.
10:15 < Todd> I want a chumby badly.
10:15 < Todd> Get the sony though.. they bought the rights to chumby's OS shit and added stuff to it.
10:18 < Todd> and it's a little more appealing next to the bed if you have a wife
10:18 < Todd> my wife hates the way the chumby looks
10:32 <@sasquatc4> and bought, nice to have a fancy alarm clock, and now we can just have the one instead of seperate ones for me and the woman
10:37 <@Dagmar> The thing is mainly a big pile of Flash
10:37 <@Dagmar> From what I can tell if you want you can enable ssh access into it
10:37 <@Dagmar> ...just takes a little hacking and a thumbdrive shoved inna back
10:39 <@Dagmar> Also, there's like 3-4 places on the net that will sell you adhesive skins that will fit the Chumby One
10:40 <@Dagmar> The thing has pretty damn good speakers in it for being runty
10:40 <@sasquatc4> just seems at 50$ even if just usin it for alarm, you get unlimited programmable alarms anyway you want with any streaming music you want
10:40 < Todd> the one has a mono speaker
10:40 < Todd> the classic has stereo speakers
10:40 <@sasquatc4> that right there beats any alarm clock your gonna find
10:40 <@Dagmar> Oh and that knob on the side doesn't fuck with the alarm volume, so you can actually have the thing playing say, Drone Zone over the net very quietly for awhile before you pass out and not have the alarm be quiet
10:40 < Todd> and they
10:41 <@Dagmar> You're talkin' about the one that looks like a football, right?
10:41 < Todd> and they're still $140 on chumby.com
10:41 <@Dagmar> I've got the One
10:41 < Todd> yeah.. italian leather
10:44 <@sasquatc4> http://gizmodo.com/#!5780204/tivo-going-to-put-slingbox-functionality-into-their-next-dvr
10:45 <@sasquatc4> hoping we have patents, for the love of god, so then maybe we can sue back, come to an agreement, and end this stupid bickering
10:49 <@Dagmar> Hoping who has patents?
10:49 <@sasquatc4> we do, since we own sling
10:50 <@Dagmar> Tivo is suing sling?
10:50 <@sasquatc4> naw, i work at echostar, tivo is suing dish/echostar/cant keep track
10:50 <@sasquatc4> but if they throw sling functionality in their boxes, then i would hope there would be some sort of agreement met through patents so we can end this stupid lawsuit battle
10:51 <@sasquatc4> sling-esque
10:51 <@Dagmar> Fuck they SHOULD sue
10:51 <@Dagmar> Do you know how many times TiVo got smacked with pathetic lawsuits from every media conglomerate around?
10:52 <@sasquatc4> the whole original suit is stupid to begin with just because of how the patent system works, they sued us saying we infringed/stole/whatever their source code and thats why our dvrs work
10:52 <@Dagmar> They paid in blood to stay around as a company, and they did come up with something new, and IMHO they fuckin' deserve some money from those Satellite providers who *now* have suddenly decided that DVR functionality is okay
10:52 <@sasquatc4> when in reality, we use the same broadcom chipsets with the same provided drivers, those drivers design lead you into a specific direction for coding your dvr portion of your code
10:53 <@Dagmar> I don't know about any lawsuit of that nature, but they should definitely be suing those sat/cable providers
10:54 <@Dagmar> Seriously the company that made ReplayTV went under from all the fucking lawsuits
10:54 <@sasquatc4> however tivo had patented that path, and broadcom cant get sued since they never sold to  public customers, only private companies who then sold it to customers, so only those secondary customers could be sued by tivo, not broadcom
10:54 <@Dagmar> TiVo patented using Broadcom drivers?
10:54 <@sasquatc4> basically
10:55 <@Dagmar> Somehow I don't think that'll get past a judge
10:55 <@sasquatc4> its the lawsuit battle thats been doing on for like 7 years now
10:56 <@Dagmar> A sure sign that it's probably not going to make it past an actual judge
10:57 <@sasquatc4> it already has, and tivo had multiple judgements in their favor, we've had to appeal a few times now
10:58 <@sasquatc4> its all because people are allowed to sue whoever brings something to market, whether or not they purchased that technology from another company or not doesnt matter
10:58 <@Dagmar> Well, that sucks
10:59 <@sasquatc4> but they cant really use that as a defense either, which is why it never gets written about since it doesnt matter to the case, just shows how fucked up the whole system is
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12:14 <@Dagmar> lolwhoops.
12:14 <@Dagmar> I just learned not to lift the laptop lid to check the model number while Ubuntu is installing
12:18 <@Husky> did it catch fire
12:18 <@oddball> Oh, Dagmar, are you still having issues with your netbook?  Is an Aspire One?
12:19 <@Dagmar> Nope.
12:19 <@Dagmar> It's an eee PC 1000
12:20 <@Dagmar> Once I got the fucking retards at ASUS RMA to replace the motherfucking mainboard, everything's been just fine
12:20 <@Dagmar> It only took FOUR TRIES
12:20 <@Dagmar> So, in short... fuck ASUS RMA
12:21 <@Dagmar> If you have to ship an Aspire One that's borderline in any way back to them, tase the fucking thing first.
12:21 <@Dagmar> They will NOT test their repairs before they ship it back to you.  Count on it.
12:21 <@oddball> Ah, ok.  My eeePC has been rock solid, but my Aspire One goes fuck off every once in a while due to the BIOS deciding it would be fun to eat itself.
12:21 <@opticron> my acer timelinex is rock solid
12:22 <@opticron> pretty nice laptop overall
12:22 <@opticron> *aspire timelinex
12:22 <@oddball> And the BIOS handles all sorts of things in the Aspire One... including charging the damn battery.
12:22 <@Husky> my eeepc has been great
12:23 <@oddball> Hell, my eeePC got halfway run over by a car and still works.
12:24 <@oddball> (was in a backpack at the time, but still)
12:24 <@Dagmar> The BIOS eating itself was one of the symptoms my eee was exhibiting
12:25 <@Dagmar> It was apparently due to a bad solder joint or a crack in the mainboard
12:25 <@Dagmar> The third fucking cross-country trip it made in the padded box made it bad enough that you couldn't even pick the fucker up while it was running before it would crash
12:26 <@oddball> suck
12:26 <@Dagmar> Seriously tho they have no excuse for fucking around like they did
12:27 <@oddball> yeah
12:29 <@Dagmar> The second and third RMA attempts, the box wouldn't even sit on a table for five minutes without crashing
12:29 <@oddball> I remember you ranting about it.
12:37 <@Dagmar> They'r
12:37 <@Dagmar> They're the first time I've ever said something like "In short, fuck your company." in a customer feedback form.
12:38 <@oddball> Really? huh... I actually did that before you.  That's shocking.
12:38 <@Dagmar> Yeah, usually I'm very civil on those things because I know the person reading them probably has nothing to do with the mess I had to deal with
12:40 <@oddball> I will never buy another Creative Labs product after that refused to honor their warranty on that MP3 player that had a broken volume down button.
12:42 <@oddball> I think my exact comment was "you refuse to stand behind your product, I refuse to buy it."
12:49 <@Dolemite> y0 y0 y0!
12:49 <@Dolemite> OMG conversation on IRC.  Mark teh calendars!
12:50 <@oddball> I don't think any of you care, but the Rift devs decided that one of the starting zones was too big and added a travel point on the other side of the zone.
12:50 <@Dagmar> It was too big
12:51 <@oddball> It wasn't that bad when I was actually doing quests along the way, but dropping off the daily crafting quests was a pain.
12:52 <@oddball> Now if only the CoX folks would do similar for Independence Port.
12:52 <@oddball> Dagmar: I'm guessing you played in the beta?
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14:18 < Mercster> oh, rock of ages...
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14:52 <@Angry> what's the fastest way to copy all the data from one drive to another (debian)?
14:53 <@Angry> just data, no server files or anything.
14:53 <@Angry> I just need to move the notkids files to a new drive
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15:00 < Shadow404> samba?
15:00 < Mercster> Shadow404: lol
15:00 < eryc> http://producten.hema.nl/
15:01 < Mercster> NotLarry: rsync, dd?
15:01 < Mercster> samba is great but it's *not* fast
15:01 <@NotLarry> which to use?  rsync or dd?  I've never had to do this before
15:01  * NotLarry flips a coin
15:02 < Mercster> rsync is probably what you want
15:03 < Mercster> unless the souce and destination are the same size and whatnot; dd could be problematic. most people i know who mirror drives from one place to another use rsync
15:04 < Shadow404> how much data, er pron, are we talking about?
15:05 <@NotLarry> oh, - /dev/sdb1             1.8T  196M  1.8T   1% /media/friction
15:05 <@NotLarry> about a tb
15:05 <@NotLarry> /dev/sdd1             932G  886G   47G  96% /media/bigboy
15:07 <@Dolemite> NotLarry : You want to use rsync.
15:08 <@Dolemite> Or, simply use cp -pr
15:08 <@Dolemite> But if the cp gets interrupted, you basically start back at scratch.  At least rsync recovers gracefully.
15:10 <@Dolemite> anywho, time to head home
15:11 <@NotLarry> thanks, on it's way
15:12 <@NotLarry> Finally spent one of those work egifts, got the kids a 2tb drive for their fileserver
15:17 <@NotLarry> well now, that rebooted the server
15:17 <@NotLarry> lets try again
15:18 <@NotLarry> So, I have to take online classes at work now.  took a linux class this morning.  Did you know that bash is a shell?
15:18 < Shadow404> no, wow, your smart
15:18 <@NotLarry> I know, right?
15:19 <@NotLarry> Monday I get to learn about how to redirect output
15:19 < Shadow404> plug the usb into another port?
15:19 <@NotLarry> Oh, and I did learn to be sure you are not in / when you enter rm -r *
15:20 <@NotLarry> well rsync is going, time to take my nap, night all, thanks
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15:24 < Mercster> yuuuuuuuuuup
16:07 <@ANGRY> wtf?  -Ltl_ppl_w_sheep.avi
16:08 <@ANGRY> I got to start watching more closely what they kids are watching
16:08 <@ANGRY> oh, nvm, its a dora episode.
16:08 < Shadow404> whars wrong with sheep?
16:08 < Shadow404> they're nice and soft
16:09 < Mercster> i dunno which is worse, pepole fucking sheep or dora hypnotizing kids into thinking they need to know spanish
16:09 < Shadow404> dora
16:09 < Mercster> probably so
16:09 <@ANGRY> for one thing, if your not careful it could be really baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
16:10 < Shadow404> http://comicon.com/pulse/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/DORA-THE-EXPLORER-65944.jpg
16:10 < Shadow404> NotLarry: my wife taught me how to do it properly, shes scottish
16:13 < Shadow404> Val Kilmer, in top secret, halarious.
16:51 <@Dagmar> Frankly, if those boys are watching Dora, that would be something I'd think you'd be concerned about
16:52 < Shadow404> i would be proud of my sons if they were watching sheep pron, i very proud father....
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17:33 < Mercster> http://www.somethingawful.com/d/cliff-yablonski/cliff-yablonski-horrible.php?page=1
17:33 < Mercster> rofl
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18:51 < dsockwell> CLIFF YABOLONSKI
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21:39 <@sdodson> hi
21:40 <@sdodson> Shadow404: hi
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