--- Log opened Sun Feb 27 00:00:27 2011 --- Day changed Sun Feb 27 2011 00:00 <@Dagmar> UNrelated note: Unetbootin fails miserably at noticing when a thumb drive is full 00:00 <@Dagmar> I *thought* that MythBuntu install was going a little quikcly 00:00 <@sdodson> I did a lot of thin provisioning using lvm snapshots. 00:01 <@Dagmar> The one thing I can say against LVM is that it's documentation explains things about as well as Teh Sunderqvist 00:01 <@Dagmar> ...which is basically, "fuckin' useless" 00:02 <@sdodson> http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html-single/Logical_Volume_Manager_Administration/index.html 00:02 < Bahhumbug> you beat me to it :) 00:02 <@Dagmar> Yeah THEIR docs are better than the LVM HOWTO 00:02 <@sdodson> http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html-single/Online_Storage_Reconfiguration_Guide/index.html is pretty good too 00:03 <@Dagmar> I was muddling along with it and finally got most of it sorted out in my head, and then had that RHCE class where I realized I actually knew it pretty well, and that te LVM HOWTO just sucked 00:03 <@Dagmar> I'm about halfway through with an illustration that will make it pretty fuckin' transparent 00:05 < eryc> mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/hd[ac]1 00:05 < eryc> zpool create tank mirror c0t0d0 c0t1d0 00:06 < eryc> zpool create tank mirror c0t[01]d0 00:06 < eryc> if you want to play bash games 00:07 < eryc> the mdadm man page is pretty aweful 00:07 <@sdodson> what's tank and what's mirror? 00:07 <@Dagmar> You've not seen anything yet 00:07 < eryc> tank is an arbitrary name that you like 00:07 <@Dagmar> If your'e just mirroring, LVM can do that, BTW 00:07 < Mercster> Last Saturday's fatal Brooklyn fire started by voodoo sex rite 00:07 < Mercster> :| 00:08 < eryc> http://serverfault.com/questions/126851/linux-lvm-mirror-vs-md-mirror 00:08 < eryc> seems md is better tho 00:12 < eryc> i guess uh, something like: lvcreate -L 12MB -m1 --corelog -n ondiskmirvol bigvg 00:12 < eryc> idk, reading this has refreshed my memory of why lvm sucks 00:13 <@sdodson> lvm sucks because you're trying to use it for what it's not good at 00:13 <@sdodson> in linux we use md for raid tasks and lvm for volume management 00:15 < eryc> i like that zfs combines those two into a simple set of commands 00:15 < Bahhumbug> lvm's "redundancy" is more for a cluster setting than true mirroring. 00:16 < Bahhumbug> at least that's how I implement it; others may do things differently. 00:16 < Bahhumbug> but I tend to use what is best for any particular task. 00:17 < eryc> you think lvm is best for cluster mirroring? 00:17 < Bahhumbug> I didn't say it was best, no. 00:17 < eryc> oh ok i thought you tended to use whats best 00:17 < Bahhumbug> there are clustering filesystems that would likely perform better at such tasks; but to be fair I've never had a business need to implement such. 00:18 < Bahhumbug> sdodson is in a better position to offer tangible evidence one way or the other than I am; and likely many others are as well. 00:18 < eryc> that link says people use it for cloning volumes 00:19 < Bahhumbug> besides, I'm loopy from the vicodin at the moment, so take whatever I say with some grain of salt. 00:19 <@Evilpig> share 00:19 < Mercster> mmmmm narcotics 00:19 < Bahhumbug> sure, and you can take part of my raging headache as well. 00:19 <@Evilpig> i've already got one of those. i'm at work 00:19 < Bahhumbug> the vicodin is the only thing that's even touched it. 00:20 <@sdodson> I don't know much about cmirror 00:20 < Bahhumbug> "much" > "nothing" :) 00:21 < Bahhumbug> (I need to set up a few domU's here and play with it and get familiar with the machinery. I keep putting it off.) 00:23 < eryc> Bahhumbug: do you think IBM is going to kill AIX? or HP will kill HPUX? 00:24 < Bahhumbug> nope; they're competent. oracraple? Not so much. 00:24 <@sdodson> Now now, you sound like one of those guys that says "winblows" or "microshaft" 00:25 <@Evilpig> it is microshaft 00:25 < Bahhumbug> *shrug* - I've been waying winblows for years. 00:25 < Bahhumbug> meh, saying 00:25 <@Evilpig> I still use it though. in their defense win7 is alot better than previous releases, imo 00:26 < Bahhumbug> oracle didn't retain a significant number of Sun engineers; so pardon me if I have little faith in their abilities to do much going forward. 00:26 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: yeah, sun was really doing great before oracle came along 00:27 < Bahhumbug> in specific markets they were. 00:27 < Mercster> yeah, like at least 5% of them 00:27 < Mercster> most of them college campuses 00:27 < Mercster> where noone knows anything anyway 00:27 < Bahhumbug> don't you have song lyrics to recite to us or something? 00:28 < Mercster> im sorry you cannot recieve the science i am dropping 00:28 < Bahhumbug> sorry son, that's not science, that's bullshit. 00:28 < Bahhumbug> but hey. whatever makes you sleep better. 00:28 < eryc> how old are you 00:28 < Bahhumbug> 45 00:28 * Mercster rolls his eye 00:29 < eryc> does that make you a technodinosaur 00:30 < Bahhumbug> I predate the PC :) Started on mainframes and have been in IT since '81. So apply whatever label you'd like. 00:30 <@Evilpig> would that be a technosaursus? 00:32 <@sdodson> That's when I was born. 00:32 < Bahhumbug> I actually got my start on the system that pioneered pretty much everything you take for granted on a daily basis, PLATO; https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/PLATO_%28computer_system%29 00:32 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: ever done tandem? 00:33 < Bahhumbug> (if anyone is interested, http://cyber1.org - running the last cut of CDC's NOS with the PLATO jobs running under it) 00:33 < eryc> did you hear you can run COBOL on .net now? 00:34 < eryc> does that excite you 00:34 < Bahhumbug> Nope, never touched a Tandem, at least as far as I know. I had my hands on a lot of stuff in the 80s that I never really knew what they boxes were, including a lot of Ameritech and Bell Labs stuff. 00:34 < Bahhumbug> I actually had to look at some Microfocus cobol code a couple years back. 00:35 < Bahhumbug> Reminded me of why I ran, screaming, from it. 00:35 < Mercster> tandem were the last mainframes i ever saw. i never worked with them, they were handled by another group when i was contracting for the USAF as a dec unix/irix admin 00:35 < Bahhumbug> Ultrix? 00:36 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: no, digital unix (tru64) 00:36 < Bahhumbug> that was a seriously messed up environment. 00:36 < Mercster> their successor to ultrix 00:36 < Mercster> before compaq bought it 00:38 < Bahhumbug> When I was at WWA we got a contract to move NEIU from GSU to their own stuff running on Alphas and OSF/1. 00:39 < Bahhumbug> Alphas were nice boxen for the day, but OSF/1 was... horrible. And the Tru/64 stuff was nearly identical if memory serves. 00:40 < Mercster> i installed it a few times, most of my job was just working within an already well-developed environment, i didnt have to get down to the iron much, or do much beyond scripting and basic management on it 00:40 < Mercster> so i probably didnt see the worst of it 00:40 < Bahhumbug> actually, those alphas were about the fastest boxes around that I had ready access to; second to perhaps only the Harris Nighthawks at UIUC and Depaul. 00:40 < Mercster> irix however, i learned to hate with a white-hot passion 00:40 < Bahhumbug> heh 00:40 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:40 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Dolemite 00:40 -!- Dolemite_ [~scott@h96-60-254-248.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 00:41 < Bahhumbug> I never really did much with Irix. 00:41 < Bahhumbug> Irix was the SGI platform, right? 00:41 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: i did a lot of work with the air force weather agency...in the main weather room every single person had a dec/alpha workstation triple headed. first time i ever saw a triple headed workstation 00:41 < Mercster> those things were pretty nice 00:41 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: right 00:41 < Mercster> sgi hardware was great, but the software blew 00:41 < Bahhumbug> I remember wanting an Indy when they first came out. 00:42 < Mercster> yeah, i salivated over those 00:42 < Mercster> i had friends with them 00:42 < Bahhumbug> Just because they looked so fucking cool and 'lite. 00:42 < Mercster> course i also used to salivate over NeXT cuves 00:42 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: hah yeah 00:42 < Mercster> the cases were probably the coolest thing about them 00:42 < Mercster> then you'd get them and actually have to use them 00:42 < Mercster> aaaaaand, boner killed 00:42 < Bahhumbug> Had either a cube or slab for a couple years, never did much with it at all. 00:43 < Bahhumbug> color unit 00:43 < Mercster> yeah 00:43 < Bahhumbug> forget what specific model. 00:43 < Mercster> those were hot 00:43 < Mercster> to this day i wouldnt mind having one to fuck with 00:43 < Bahhumbug> I cracked the NeXT cluster at NWU in '90 or '91. 00:43 < Mercster> of course, i also have inappropriate dreams about having a late-model amiga 00:43 < Bahhumbug> Those boxen were quite fucking nice for what they were as long as you got the hang of their dev environment. 00:44 < Bahhumbug> cutie.acns.nwu.edu was mine for 2+ years. I was the only user. It was nice :) 00:45 < Bahhumbug> And amusingly, HPA was there at NWU at the same time. 00:45 < Bahhumbug> (H. Peter Anvin) 00:49 < Mercster> i know hpa from irc 00:50 < Bahhumbug> he was working for ILS or ACS back then at Northwestern. ACS is most likely. 00:50 < Mercster> 01:49 [linuxnet] -!- hpa [^hpa@terminus.zytor.com] 00:50 < Mercster> 01:49 [linuxnet] -!- ircname : H. Peter Anvin 00:50 < Mercster> 01:49 [linuxnet] -!- channels : #netdev #tracesys #x86 #korg #intel 00:50 < Mercster> (cant paste the server, it's a private network) 00:51 < Bahhumbug> *shrug* 00:56 < Mercster> http://ww.telent.net/linuxnet.html 00:56 < Mercster> haha 00:56 < Mercster> soooooo old 00:58 < Mercster> Some of that would probably be a reflection of the environment on Linuxnet; it's frequently a challenge to communicate there without employing the concepts and tone of the Novice collaborator. 00:58 < Mercster> -- Rob Levin 00:58 < Mercster> old lilo 00:58 < Mercster> fuckin idiot 00:59 < Mercster> id pour out liquor for him, but im an alcoholic, so that's sort of out of the window 01:00 < Bahhumbug> you'd pour out liquor for a corpse? 01:01 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: it is common practice in many urban environments for african americans to "pour out liquor" for a "homeboy" who is deceased 01:01 < Mercster> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pour%20out%20some%20liquor&defid=43125 01:02 < Bahhumbug> Oh, how gangsta of you to know that. 01:02 < Mercster> 1. pour out some liquor 106 up, 8 down 01:02 < Mercster> something you do when a homey dies, or to reminisce about old times 01:02 < Mercster> im not gangsta, i just listen to a lot of rap. but compared to you, yeah, i probably am gangsta 01:09 < Mercster> plus where i live is like 80% black 01:09 < Mercster> so you pick up on those things 01:14 < eryc> Mercster: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1996/04/msg00406.html 01:16 < Mercster> eryc: yup 01:16 < Mercster> eryc: none of those servers are live anymore, though 01:17 < eryc> http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/6f2fac61-a65d-40ba-ab95-5fd6d1ae4e65.gif 01:17 < Mercster> yuck 01:18 < eryc> http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/262/milkposter.jpg 01:19 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@pool-74-96-235-52.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 01:19 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@pool-74-96-235-52.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:19 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 01:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 01:19 <@sdodson> Geez, toy story came out in 1995? 01:19 < eryc> inorite 01:19 <@ShadowHntr> yeap 01:20 <@sdodson> So what do you folks think about LFS and Gentoo? People seem to really feel like using such teaches you things that you wouldn't learn otherwise. discuss 01:21 * sdodson has been writing an automation script for the past hour to complete a task at 3am so he doens't have to be awake then and is suddenly realizing he may just end up being awake then 01:21 < Mercster> i learned on slackware. i dunno much about gentoo, except that people who use it tend to be ridiculous assholes 01:21 < Mercster> but ridiculous assholes are about 86% of the internet 01:21 < Mercster> so that's not really a black mark against them 01:22 < Mercster> just an obervation 01:22 < Mercster> also, an observation 01:22 < eryc> how is that relevant 01:22 < Mercster> i never said it was relevant, i said it's all i know about it 01:22 < Mercster> plus it sounds like a lot of work 01:22 < eryc> THEN SHUTUP 01:22 < eryc> ok 01:23 < Mercster> ive built billions of kernels in my day, but that doesnt mean i want to do it (or build much of anything else) in 2011 01:23 < Mercster> i settle for things with nice mouse interfaces and big colorfully clicky buttons i can clicky-clicky on 01:24 < Mercster> i guess you might learn stuff installing/using gentoo, but you could just as easily learn those things on a platform that doesnt pride itself on "this is fucking obtuse and difficult to use" 01:24 < eryc> and then when you clicky clicky break it you throw your hands up and reinstall 01:24 < eryc> i got you 01:24 < Mercster> no i fix it, cuz i know what im doing :) 01:24 < Mercster> but that's just a happy accident 01:24 < Mercster> windows people reinstall all the time, why should that honor not be extended to linux folks 01:25 < Mercster> see i dont set myself up as some kind of uber-genius just because i know how to run UNIX. if someone needs to reinstall their linux box to make it work, go for it 01:25 <@sdodson> eryc: what are your thoughts? 01:25 < Mercster> i dont look down on them 01:25 < Mercster> people use computers to make their lives easier. 01:25 < Mercster> welcome to life 01:26 < eryc> thoughts on LFS? 01:26 < eryc> seems cool 01:26 < eryc> fuck gentoo tho 01:26 <@ShadowHntr> i started on slackware too 01:26 <@ShadowHntr> and then red hat 01:26 <@ShadowHntr> had bad experiences with debian and ubuntu 01:26 < Mercster> ShadowHntr: ya same 01:27 < Bahhumbug> odd, same here as well. 01:27 <@ShadowHntr> so i've kinda stuck with rpm-based distros 01:27 <@ShadowHntr> especially since yum has matured 01:27 < Mercster> ive run ubuntu a few times, it's not horrible. debian is horrible, and unfortunately ubuntu, while fixing many problems, still inherits some of the debian horribleness 01:27 < Bahhumbug> s far as gentoo; there has only been one really useful thing to come out of gentoo, and that was as a side project, really, was keychain. 01:27 < Mercster> ive always been a redhat/rpm person 01:27 < eryc> debian isn't horrible noob 01:28 < Mercster> ohhhhhhhhh yes it is 01:28 < Mercster> I HAVE SPOKEN 01:28 <@ShadowHntr> iceweasel 01:28 <@ShadowHntr> NEED I SAY MORE? 01:28 < Mercster> ShadowHntr: yeah yum was a good move 01:28 < Mercster> i think yum was originally for SuSE, wasnt it 01:28 <@ShadowHntr> yellow dog 01:28 <@ShadowHntr> actually 01:28 < Mercster> ahhh 01:28 * Bahhumbug nods 01:29 < Mercster> that's the uh, one for 68k machines 01:29 <@ShadowHntr> yellow dog was the first linux distro for ppc designed for macs 01:29 < Mercster> iirc 01:29 <@ShadowHntr> mklinux is the one you're thinking of 01:29 < Mercster> mmm, yeah it's been awhile 01:29 <@ShadowHntr> actually i don't think there's one for 68k macs 01:29 <@ShadowHntr> mklinux was nubus ppc macs 01:29 <@ShadowHntr> like the power mac 6100 01:29 < Bahhumbug> Anyone remember Spot's toy, Aurora? 01:29 < Mercster> yeah not familiar 01:29 <@ShadowHntr> Aurora Linux i do remember 01:30 <@ShadowHntr> it's for SPARC 01:30 <@ShadowHntr> but i prefer Solaris on SPARC 01:30 < Mercster> i dislike solaris immensely 01:30 < eryc> solaris sucks 01:30 < Mercster> when i had a sparc, i ran redhat 5.2 on it 01:30 < Bahhumbug> Aurora was a decent rebuild. 01:30 < eryc> i think osx is going to obliterate linux in 2 years 01:31 < Bahhumbug> You're funny. 01:31 <@sdodson> Not going to happen unless it's available on PC 01:31 <@ShadowHntr> LEGALLY, that is. 01:32 < Bahhumbug> heh, nice qualifier. 01:32 <@ShadowHntr> but i agree 01:32 <@sdodson> yaI can see enterprises flocking to running hackintoshes in their data centers 01:32 < Mercster> i ran a hackintosh for awhile 01:32 < Mercster> OSX is ok, i guess 01:32 < eryc> yea they are going to open an enterprise app store 01:32 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: we have a few xserves in a couple of our datacenters 01:32 < eryc> its going to be revolutionary 01:32 <@ShadowHntr> for developers 01:33 <@sdodson> ShadowHntr: good, go buy a new one from apple 01:33 <@ShadowHntr> LOL 01:33 < Mercster> sdodson: i have a droid X now, did i tell you? 01:33 <@ShadowHntr> nah a little out of my price range 01:33 <@sdodson> oh that's right they killed that product line 01:33 <@sdodson> Mercster: yes, three times 01:33 < Mercster> sdodson: #5 I HAVE A DROID X 01:33 < eryc> because they're about to come out with ONE MORE THING 01:33 * Mercster parades in front of sdodson 01:33 < eryc> the iServe! 01:33 <@ShadowHntr> why can't we all just smoke a bowl and GET ALONG TONIGHT?!?!?!?!?!? 01:34 <@sdodson> Because you say things like that. 01:34 < Bahhumbug> Because I have nothing to smoke :( 01:34 < eryc> yea shutup stoner 01:34 < eryc> s 01:34 * Mercster passes the bowl to Bahhumbug 01:34 < Bahhumbug> Besides I technically quit smoking a couple years back. 01:34 <@ShadowHntr> LOL 01:34 <@ShadowHntr> :) 01:34 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: hah, technically 01:35 <@ShadowHntr> i've discovered other things to smoke that are legal and are just as good for me as the marijuana 01:35 <@ShadowHntr> and isn't cigarettes 01:35 < Bahhumbug> I've had a couple of care packages shipped to me from Chicago since I "quit", but it's actually been 2 years now since I'm had anything. 01:35 < Mercster> salvia? 01:35 <@ShadowHntr> cigarettes are one thing i can't handle :P 01:35 <@ShadowHntr> Mercster: some of it is called K2 in some states 01:35 < Mercster> dont tell me you smoke those weird-ass herbal things they spray synthetic... 01:35 < Mercster> yeah 01:35 < Mercster> ok you just told me 01:35 <@ShadowHntr> and some other herbs i'm about to try 01:35 < Mercster> ShadowHntr: shit's gonna be illegal soon 01:35 <@ShadowHntr> Mercster: not in virginia yet 01:35 < Mercster> already is in several states 01:35 < Mercster> including TN 01:35 < Mercster> ive never tried it 01:36 <@ShadowHntr> or maryland 01:36 < Bahhumbug> yes, and being illegal has worked oh so well. 01:36 < eryc> i think it is in va now too 01:36 <@ShadowHntr> i also have some other herbs that aren't synthetic that are legal that i haven't tried yet 01:36 < eryc> i heard it on the news 01:36 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: yeah but from what ive heard the herbal stuff is harsh, and weird, not nearly as good as semi-decent weed 01:36 <@ShadowHntr> that was a convaluded sentence 01:36 <@ShadowHntr> :P 01:36 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: so if yer gonna buy something illegal, just buy the real stuff 01:36 < Bahhumbug> indeed 01:36 < Bahhumbug> Or grow my own. 01:37 < eryc> that shit rots your brain 01:37 < Bahhumbug> which is an idea I've tossed about for a while now. 01:37 < eryc> rotting your brain? 01:37 < Bahhumbug> There are benefits to living on a farm. 01:37 < Mercster> the last dude i knew who grew weed got robbed and had his head bashed in with a brick 01:37 < Bahhumbug> eryc: If I might ask, how old are you? 01:37 < eryc> 45 01:37 < Mercster> plus, growing weed is much more uhhh...i dunno, illegal? than a simple possession charge 01:38 < Bahhumbug> Mercster: I've got an arsenal here and a C&C; I don't get too worried about that type of thing. 01:38 < Mercster> when i was a teen i had a couple of little plants but it never went anywhere. and since then i have had the good sense to just buy my weed in small amounts from someone else 01:38 < Bahhumbug> meh, it would have to be traced to me. that would be difficult unless I was under observatiuon. 01:38 < Mercster> i cant really afford a "possession with intent to distribute" charge 01:38 < Mercster> cuz i dont like jail 01:39 < eryc> Bahhumbug has an arsenal he won't go to jail 01:39 <@ShadowHntr> he'll just commit suicide by cop :P 01:39 < Mercster> yeah guns always help when you're caught by the police growing weed 01:39 < Mercster> that's always a plus 01:39 < Bahhumbug> I was referring to some asshat with a brick. 01:39 < Mercster> "son, do you realize growing marijuana is a crime?" "yeah, but it's ok, ive got LOADED GUNS!" 01:39 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: well, yeah 01:40 < Bahhumbug> and I love how you just automatically make an assumption that I would get caught. 01:40 < Mercster> i love you too :) 01:40 * Mercster hugs Bahhumbug 01:40 <@ShadowHntr> who knows? someone who is holding a grudge against you may report you 01:40 <@ShadowHntr> :P 01:40 < Bahhumbug> and they would know I am growing... how? 01:40 < eryc> i told them 01:40 < Mercster> the smell? 01:40 < Mercster> have you actually ever grown weed? 01:40 < Mercster> it's a bit complex 01:40 <@ShadowHntr> SMELL... BAD !!! 01:41 < Bahhumbug> Let me rephrase this. I live on a farm. 01:41 < eryc> you can smell it far far away 01:41 < Bahhumbug> I have more than a few acres of land. 01:41 < Bahhumbug> Some of it wooded. With natural irrigation. 01:41 < eryc> this changes nothing 01:41 < Bahhumbug> Shrug. 01:41 < Mercster> i know a guy who had a small grow room in his house, and without extensive ventilation systems and filters, which cost thousands of dollars, just walking into his front door would let you know 01:41 < Bahhumbug> You can believe what you want. 01:41 < Mercster> but hey, go for it, bigtime 01:42 < Mercster> if you grow any good shit, lemme know 01:42 < Bahhumbug> I also love how you think I'd do large volume cultivation. 01:42 < Mercster> so you're gonna have 5 plants? which would yield an ounce or less? 01:42 < Bahhumbug> Mercster: I'll get righ ton that. 01:43 < Mercster> growing weed is about volume, otherwise it's just a hobby 01:43 < eryc> that shit rots your brain 01:43 < Mercster> and really not worth the time or work 01:43 <@sdodson> hobby / sustinance 01:43 < eryc> just look at Mercster 01:43 < Bahhumbug> If you've got 5 plants of any decent size and you are only getting an oz yield, you need to be doing something else. 01:43 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: i meant an oz per plant 01:44 < Mercster> so that's 5 ounces, for 4-5 months of work / risk 01:44 < Bahhumbug> Per harvest. 01:44 < Mercster> the buds dont just pop out after 2 months 01:44 < Bahhumbug> That does bring up a good point. 01:44 < Mercster> you have to actually wait for the plant to grow 01:44 < Bahhumbug> This would be outside, so grow time would be limited due to seasonal changes. 01:44 < Mercster> that too 01:44 < Bahhumbug> Thanks Mercster. I sorta know that. 01:44 < Mercster> k well you dont sound like you know shit 01:45 < Mercster> so i was trying to help 01:45 < Mercster> lemme know if you know other stuff i type 01:45 < Mercster> cuz that lets me know your penis is large 01:45 < Mercster> in comparison to mine 01:45 < Bahhumbug> Here's a hint. Just because I don't talk about something much, you shouldn't make the erroneous assumption that I don't know anything on the subject. 01:45 * sdodson compiles a list of names mercster likes to throw at people randomly 01:45 < Bahhumbug> Unless you, I don't go spewing shit out all the time. 01:45 < Bahhumbug> meh, s/Unless/Unlike/ 01:46 < Mercster> sorry i know more than you :( 01:46 * Mercster pets Bahhumbug 01:46 < Bahhumbug> Highly unlikely. 01:46 < Bahhumbug> Well, I retract that. 01:46 < Mercster> haaaaaaaaaa 01:46 < Bahhumbug> You know how to spew endless amounts of idiotic bullshit to an irc channel much better than I do. 01:46 < Bahhumbug> But, well... That's really about it as far as I can see. 01:46 < Mercster> oh the hot chick from 'the office' is on the latest proactive commercial 01:47 < eryc> Mercster grew 2 plants when he was 15 so he's a pro 01:47 < Mercster> her skin looks so smooth and soft 01:47 < Mercster> no blemishes or anything 01:48 <@sdodson> Mercster: Pam? 01:48 < Mercster> i dunno, the main chick. the receptionist one 01:48 < eryc> she's hot? 01:48 < Mercster> i havent watched the office in years, so i dont remember any names 01:48 <@sdodson> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0278979/ 01:48 < Mercster> i think she is 01:49 < Mercster> sdodson: yeah her 01:49 < Mercster> she was in 'walk hard' too 01:49 < Mercster> hilarious 01:49 < Mercster> with john c reilly 01:51 < eryc> thats awesome 01:52 < eryc> thanks for sharing Mercster 01:52 < Mercster> ya n/p :) 01:56 <@sdodson> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1444665/ she's hot 01:56 <@sdodson> I'm watching dexter. 01:56 < Mercster> blech 01:56 < Mercster> she looks like a weirdo alien, or a canadian 01:57 <@sdodson> She's British 01:57 < Mercster> ya well, she's also ugly 01:58 < Mercster> i also am ugly, so i know about this stuff 02:55 -!- cordless [~cordless@145.116.228.165] has joined #se2600 02:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o cordless] by ChanServ 02:59 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Quit: *sneeze*] 03:03 < Mercster> time for music 03:14 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:25 < Mercster> fast and bulbous 03:25 < Mercster> also, a tin teardrop 03:25 < Mercster> bulbous, also tapered 03:25 < Mercster> (that's right) 03:26 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:55 < Mercster> http://www.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2011-02-26-2979243876_x.htm 03:55 < Mercster> rofl 03:55 < Mercster> some oregon US rep is a furry 03:55 < Mercster> PORTLAND, Ore. 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An Oregon congressman facing calls for his resignation from some of the state's largest newspapers said the mental health condition from which he suffers doesn't prevent him from doing his job. 03:56 < Mercster> he's asian, obviously 03:56 < Mercster> IM KIDDIN 03:56 < Mercster> but no, he is asian 03:57 < Mercster> rofl 03:57 < Mercster> what a trainwreck 04:02 < Mercster> He said Saturday that he does not have a substance abuse problem, and that he should not have publicly disclosed his decision to stop drinking alcohol last summer because it gave a false impression that he suffered from alcoholism. 04:03 < Mercster> He added, 'THINGS ARENT GOING WELL'. 04:03 < Mercster> i added that second part 04:07 < Mercster> no worries, in 10 years or so we'll have furry rights 04:07 < Mercster> first furry president 04:07 < Mercster> "hope and change" 04:07 < Mercster> whoooo boy 04:13 < Mercster> http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=116981008&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10202 04:13 < Mercster> that one's even more detailed 04:13 < Mercster> Wu also admitted to sending emails from his Congressionally-issued Blackberry to his staff, pretending to be his child. He said he.d had a couple sips of wine and was kidding around a the time, but realized later it was unprofessional and shouldn.t have done it. 04:14 < Mercster> go for gold 04:27 <@Dagmar> Sadness. MythBuntu's mysql install is considerably slower than the home-rolled I was using 04:35 < Mercster> i read that as ham-rolled 04:35 < Mercster> now i want a hamroll 04:40 <@Dagmar> It records properly again tho 05:03 < Mercster> i used to be your baby 05:03 < Mercster> i used to be your pride and joy.... 05:03 < Mercster> you used to take me dancin'... 05:03 < Mercster> just like any other boooooy... 05:04 < Mercster> but now you find another partner 05:04 < Mercster> you left me like a broken toy 05:06 < Mercster> now it's someone else you're takin'... 05:06 < Mercster> someone else you're playin tooooooo 05:06 < Mercster> honey though im ACHIN'...know just what i HAAAAVE to dooooo... 05:06 < Bahhumbug> do you stand in front of a mirror and watch yourself sing? 05:07 < Mercster> if i cant have you when im wakin'....i go to sleep and dream of you 05:07 * Mercster pulls Bahhumbug up from his seat and dances 05:08 < Mercster> OHHHHHH take me...take me...take me to the dreamer's ball 05:08 < Mercster> ill be RIGHT ON TIME...ill DRESS SO FINE 05:08 < Mercster> you're gonna love me, when you see me... 05:08 < Mercster> i wont have to worrrryyyyyy 05:08 -!- Mercster was kicked from #se2600 by Evilpig [stfu] 05:08 < Bahhumbug> :) 05:08 < Bahhumbug> I would do that but I'm not sure of the protocol around here. 05:09 <@Evilpig> it's generally "mercster stfu" 05:09 <@Evilpig> there are variations like "mercster stfu or the ban hammer is coming back" but you get the drift 05:09 -!- Mercster [~merc@zeniv.linux.org.uk] has joined #se2600 05:09 < Bahhumbug> the last time that conversation happened he got muted until he cried to sdodson or someone. 05:10 < Mercster> which conversation was that 05:10 <@Evilpig> most conversations involving you 05:10 < Mercster> btw i dont cry to anyone 05:10 < Mercster> last time i was unbanned, sdodson /msg'd *me* 05:10 < Mercster> so get your facts straight 05:10 < Mercster> BAAAAAM 05:11 < Bahhumbug> must I actually go through my logs to disprove you? again? 05:11 < Mercster> noone cares 05:11 < Bahhumbug> I mean, don't you get sick of being proved wrong? 05:11 < Mercster> and yeah, go through your logs 05:11 -!- cordless-work [~cordless@69.67.30.95] has joined #se2600 05:11 < Mercster> run through your little logs, little man 05:11 < Mercster> cuz it's *that important* 05:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o cordless-work] by cordless 05:21 <@Evilpig> what's fucking important is that slimes are bugged and you can't currently kill the little fuckers 05:21 <@Evilpig> they are making the subway a real pain in the ass 05:27 < Mercster> whats that, minecraft stuff 08:49 <@Evilpig> should I be concerned that I just grounded myself to the desk and the cable tester sitting on the bench turned on? 09:00 < Mercster> "you know, i never cared much for jews, queers, or fuckin' eskimos...but, that's just the way i wuz brought up" 09:00 < Mercster> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uao0nB8mzec 09:01 < Mercster> Protesters Clash with Police in Oman 09:01 < Mercster> oh good, there goes another one 09:07 < Mercster> rofl 09:07 < Mercster> karl pilkington 09:07 < Mercster> he's my hero 09:10 < Mercster> rofl 09:10 < Mercster> "ohhhh im sorry jesus died, got any eggs?" 09:12 -!- Bahhumbug [~jrd@unaffiliated/gerdesas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:18 < Mercster> HAHA 09:18 < Mercster> pancake tuesdays 09:20 * Mercster dies 09:20 < Mercster> "ive been here a couple of days, they're not really concerned with health and safety" 10:05 -!- MercDROID [~yaaic@c-71-236-38-82.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:06 < MercDROID> hi 10:06 < MercDROID> ehhh 10:06 -!- MercDROID [~yaaic@c-71-236-38-82.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:08 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@173.13.247.210] has joined #se2600 10:08 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@173.13.247.210] has quit [Changing host] 10:08 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has joined #se2600 10:19 < Mercster> dont try to do no thinkin'... 10:19 < Mercster> just go on with your drinkin'.... 10:19 < Mercster> just have your fun, you old son of a gun 10:19 < Mercster> and drive home in your lincoln :) 10:29 < Mercster> "tavis smiley is a dick" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9UkkvyY9No 10:29 -!- Mercster was kicked from #se2600 by sdodson [don't lie fool, you cried to me for days asking to be unbanned] 10:30 -!- Mercster [~merc@zeniv.linux.org.uk] has joined #se2600 10:30 < Mercster> YOU A DAMN LIAR 10:31 < Mercster> Bahhunmbug has the logs to prove it, dont worry 10:31 < Mercster> sdodson: what's your current smartphone? 10:32 <@sdodson> Though, I do appreciate it that you don't have your client set up to auto-rejoin after being kicked. Only sad sack pieces of shit do that. 10:32 <@sdodson> Mercster: iPhone 5 10:32 < Mercster> you fancy muthafucka 10:32 < Mercster> i know i havent told you this, but i have a droid X (#6) 10:33 <@sdodson> Mercster: oh, cool, you getting laid now because of it? 10:33 < Mercster> no 10:35 < Mercster> sdodson: shouldnt you have a pre? 10:36 < Mercster> i have a friend with a pre 10:36 <@sdodson> Mercster: i do 10:36 <@sdodson> Mercster: oh, who? 10:36 < Mercster> he wont admit that t sucks 10:37 < Mercster> sdodson: someone you dont know, dont worry about it 10:40 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkIQLNmRDcM is that actually how you're supposed to dance to dubstep? 10:44 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-98-240-87-173.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 10:47 * Mercster stares 11:10 <@sdodson> Mercster: how's that working out for you? 11:51 <@cordless-work> lol 12:07 < Dickie> cordless-work: You're the military feller, ain't cha? 12:08 < Dickie> I'm thinking about joining the reserves. 12:13 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@pool-74-96-235-52.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 12:13 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@pool-74-96-235-52.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 12:13 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 12:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 12:25 <@cordless-work> yes Dickie 12:25 <@cordless-work> Dickie: What branch? 12:25 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:25 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@96.5.81.157] has joined #se2600 12:25 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@96.5.81.157] has quit [Changing host] 12:25 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 12:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 12:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v Dickie] by cordless-work 12:27 <@ShadowHntr> sup CRasH180 12:29 <+Dickie> Air force 12:30 <@CRasH180> Hey ShadowHntr! 12:30 <@CRasH180> nm, about to head out of the house for some errands 12:38 <@cordless-work> Dickie: better be in good shape and have good credit. 12:42 <+Dickie> 1) Training now 2) Why? 12:42 <+Dickie> I'm a married homeowner with great credit, by the way. 12:42 <+Dickie> And I'm 25 12:43 <+Dickie> I'll be 26 in basic 13:04 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Quit: *sneeze*] 14:53 -!- Bahhumbug [~jrd@unaffiliated/gerdesas] has joined #se2600 14:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by ChanServ 15:06 <@sdodson> hi 15:09 * Bahhumbug waves 15:17 <@sdodson> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1091976372/open-source-5-axis-cnc-router-and-plasma-machine-p 15:17 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7y6azvuNis do they have to substantiate the reduced noise claims? 16:00 -!- oddball_ [~oddball@c-76-22-243-130.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:01 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-243-130.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:33 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@173.13.247.210] has joined #se2600 16:33 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@173.13.247.210] has quit [Changing host] 16:33 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has joined #se2600 16:56 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:05 < eryc> http://imgur.com/gallery/VmpD3 18:12 <@sdodson> 1no 18:15 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:13 -!- sync [~sync@adsl-190-99-125.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 19:39 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has joined #se2600 21:24 -!- sync [~sync@adsl-190-99-125.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:27 <@sdodson> http://www.ucbcomedy.com/videos/play/7801/depressex 21:57 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:04 -!- ladymerl1n [ladymerlin@bbis.us] has joined #se2600 22:22 -!- ladymerl1n is now known as ladymerlin 22:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ladymerlin] by ChanServ 22:32 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:37 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@173.13.247.210] has joined #se2600 22:37 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@173.13.247.210] has quit [Changing host] 22:37 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has joined #se2600 23:05 < hobbes615> so whats the job in Austin 23:13 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@pool-74-96-235-52.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 23:13 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@pool-74-96-235-52.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:13 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 23:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 23:14 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:20 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: sleep is now required] 23:30 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@173.13.247.210] has joined #se2600 23:30 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@173.13.247.210] has quit [Changing host] 23:30 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has joined #se2600 23:59 -!- unixfg [~ryan@mail.ghruaim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:59 -!- unixfg [~ryan@216.37.94.122] has joined #se2600 23:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfg] by ChanServ --- Log closed Mon Feb 28 00:00:40 2011