--- Log opened Wed Feb 09 00:00:55 2011 00:03 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 00:04 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 00:59 -!- forgottenwizard [~none@c-69-180-212-236.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:44 < Mercster> left, right 01:44 < Mercster> noone 01:44 < Mercster> stops MY 01:44 < Mercster> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! 02:02 -!- kiawani [~kiawani@wilpig.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:04 -!- peaches1984 [blue@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:05 -!- kiawani [~kiawani@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 02:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o kiawani] by ChanServ 02:09 -!- kiawani [~kiawani@wilpig.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:46 <@Evilpig> well that's a new one on me. so I was preparing to swap from my old hosting box to my new one. so I went in and edited the ifcfg-eth0 script with the new IP. the son of a bitch took the change immediately... wtf?! 02:46 <@Evilpig> I didn't expect that to take effect until I rebooted or restarted the network service 02:49 < Mercster> linux is magic 02:50 <@Evilpig> that kinda defeats the point of having a configfile run though 02:56 <@Bahhumbug> ... 02:56 <@Bahhumbug> what distro? 02:56 <@Bahhumbug> and yes, that's broken by design. 03:00 <@Evilpig> fc14 03:00 <@Evilpig> trying to get notlarry to send me a test message and the fucker is composing a novel over there 03:01 -!- k4k [~K4k@c-24-98-78-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:04 < forgottenwizard> should tell him to just download a book from project gustave 03:05 <@Evilpig> sqlgrey does autowhitelisting much better than postgrey did. holy fuck so much better 03:05 <@Evilpig> took two or three messages from here at work to whitelist the domain and ip combo instead of just the emailaddress / ip combo 03:06 <@Evilpig> was just telling notlarry if I could get dspam running behind the messages that make it through the greylisting this would be amazing 03:14 <@Evilpig> haha I have a file on my old hosting box that is under cron.daily called "namedglitch" one line "service named start" 03:20 < Mercster> http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/0ff85dd3c8/between-two-ferns-with-zach-galifianakis 03:27 < Mercster> ohhhh man 03:27 < Mercster> http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/60072add5a/between-two-ferns-with-zach-galifianakis-ben-stiller 03:27 < Mercster> "are you making fun of the south?" "no, not at all" "cuz they're stupid enough to go to your fuckin' movies" 03:28 < Mercster> "your email address is benstillerfaggot69@verizon.net?" "yeah, benstillerfaggot was already taken, so i had to add 69 to the end" 03:29 <@Evilpig> we dont' need a play by play 03:29 < Mercster> you cant even spell "don't" 03:29 < Mercster> how do you know what you need 03:30 -!- Mercster was kicked from #se2600 by Evilpig [I can spell kick just fine] 03:30 -!- Mercster [~merc@zeniv.linux.org.uk] has joined #se2600 03:30 <@Evilpig> ban is even shorter 03:30 < Mercster> yeah your "namedglitch" anecdote is way better 03:30 < Mercster> sorry 03:33 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig: running the abortion known as systemd? 03:35 <@Evilpig> It is available for fc14 but I don't think I loaded it. sec 03:36 <@Evilpig> nm apparently it is loaded by default on 14 03:37 <@Bahhumbug> Fucking Lennart :( 03:37 <@Evilpig> but it isn't loaded... so no. damn they need to get their documentation straight 03:37 <@Bahhumbug> It's shipped, but not the default environment until F15 03:38 <@Bahhumbug> and it's the biggest piece of crap I've come across in a long time. 03:38 <@Bahhumbug> But sadly I can't point at it and say "it's system's fault" this time. 03:38 <@Evilpig> the wiki says it has the tech preview. the docs off of that say it is there by default. I will not load it on this but might on a test system to see what the deal is. I am partial to how stuff starts now 03:39 <@Bahhumbug> sysvinit -> upstart -> systemd. and systemd has its hooks in, literally, everything. 03:39 <@Evilpig> blech 03:39 <@Bahhumbug> I'm old fashioned, meh, just old, and I like sysvinit. 03:39 <@Evilpig> it makes sense. it's tried and true 03:40 < forgottenwizard> everyone has had time to work out the problems with it 03:40 < Mercster> scary 03:40 < Mercster> wtf is systemd? 03:40 < forgottenwizard> apparently a 'new' init system 03:40 <@Evilpig> it attempts to load multiple processes at once 03:40 < Mercster> fedora switched to upstart at some point, but it still took the sysVinit scripts 03:40 <@Evilpig> isn't that how windows handles starting services? 03:41 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig: windows serializes startups 03:41 <@Evilpig> without much digging I am assuming systemd has a dependency setup? 03:41 < Mercster> does systemd not take the traditional sysV init scripts? 03:41 <@Evilpig> from yum: 03:41 <@Evilpig> systemd-gtk.x86_64 : Graphical frontend for systemd 03:41 <@Evilpig> systemd-sysvinit.x86_64 : systemd System V init tools 03:41 <@Evilpig> systemd-units.x86_64 : Configuration files, directories and installation tool for systemd 03:41 <@Evilpig> systemd.i686 : A System and Session Manager 03:41 <@Evilpig> systemd.x86_64 : A System and Session Manager 03:41 <@Bahhumbug> systemd, for the f15 pass, is going to "work with" them, but it's still a hack. 03:42 <@Evilpig> f15 is going to use the new network designations too 03:42 <@Bahhumbug> yep 03:42 < forgottenwizard> hrm. I think I'll glance at systemd myself 03:42 <@Evilpig> that release is gonna be all kinda fucked up 03:42 <@Bahhumbug> and sadly all this bullshit will trickle down to EL space. which is going to thoroughly annoy me. 03:42 < Mercster> my netbook is runnig F12. i think ill keep it there 03:42 < Mercster> running, rather 03:42 <@Evilpig> hopefully it will run out in fedora land long enough to get hte bugs out before it hits the enterprise spins 03:43 <@Bahhumbug> Lennart's also known for abandoning projects when something newer and shinier comes along. Such as the abortiong known as PulseAudio. 03:43 < forgottenwizard> DBus, snapshotting. Just the 'What is it?' section of the systemd site makes me gag 03:43 < Mercster> Evilpig: fedora is essentially a testbed for RHEL 03:43 <@Bahhumbug> Not really. 03:43 <@Bahhumbug> It's coined as such, but it's quite a bit more. 03:43 <@Bahhumbug> EL cherry picks from Fedora 03:43 <@Evilpig> right 03:43 < forgottenwizard> Fedora still using 4k stacks by default? 03:44 <@Bahhumbug> that got changed recently I think. 03:44 < Mercster> well obviously it has a bunch of stuff in the repos that RHEL will never see 03:44 <@Bahhumbug> EL6 might have picked up on that as well. 03:44 < Mercster> but it is a testbed for RHEL when it comes to core shit 03:44 <@Evilpig> anyhow... gonna finish tinkering with this rutorrent. need to get users added to it 03:44 < Mercster> like uh, systemd 03:44 < Mercster> or whatever the fuck 03:44 <@Bahhumbug> for various extremely loose definitions of "testbed" and "core" 03:45 <@Evilpig> fedora is supposed to be rhel on the bleeding edge. rhel is it's settled down and had the training wheels taken off 03:45 <@Bahhumbug> the biggest thing they have in common is anaconda 03:45 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: and rpm? 03:45 <@Bahhumbug> bleeding edge is rawhide. 03:45 * Mercster stares at Bahhumbug 03:46 <@Bahhumbug> rpm is quite a bit different between the 2 from an implmentation standpoint. at least until EL6 was pushed. 03:46 < forgottenwizard> anacona? Isn't that the laptop-centric cron replacement? 03:46 <@Bahhumbug> xz compression, delata rpms, presto, etc. 03:46 <@Bahhumbug> anaconda is the installer 03:46 < forgottenwizard> ah 03:46 < Mercster> anaconda is the redhat installer 03:47 <@Bahhumbug> to be fair, I am quite jaded. I gave up on fedora years ago and moved exclusively into EL space and I've never looked back. 03:47 <@Evilpig> I just started seeing the delta rpms in 14 03:47 <@Evilpig> but I was running 11 and 12 before 03:47 <@Bahhumbug> I still keep up on fedora-devel and such, but there's far too much idiocy going on with the various sigs, fesco, etc. 03:47 < Mercster> well if you make your living off of linux, you'd do well to give up on fedora 03:47 < Mercster> i dont 03:48 < Mercster> so fedora is my distro of choice...although past FC12 scares me 03:48 <@Bahhumbug> fedora has its place if you'd a cutting edge developer. and that *is* the direction that fedora has taken for the past 3 or so years. 03:48 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: it's not as bad as debian, let's give it that 03:48 <@Bahhumbug> err, s/you'd/you're/ 03:49 <@Evilpig> we aren't supposed to say debian in here. I thought that was a rule? 03:49 <@Bahhumbug> I've never, ever, been a debian proponent. 03:49 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, is it? 03:49 < Mercster> well, debian is shit 03:49 <@Bahhumbug> can I say debian sucks? and ubuntu spits? 03:49 < Mercster> so, good rule 03:49 < forgottenwizard> I've seen Ubuntu's predecesor's package manager screw itself 03:49 <@Evilpig> ubuntu was the only distro I could get running on my virtual host at home. nothing would see the fuckin' drive controller but it, at the time 03:50 < Mercster> ubuntu is slightly less sucky than debian, but it's hobbled by being based on debian, so at it's core, it still shit 03:50 < forgottenwizard> Ubuntu almost has the 'working automagically' bit going 03:51 < Mercster> ive never seen ubuntu work any magic that fedora couldnt 03:51 < forgottenwizard> I havn't touched Fedora in ages 03:52 < forgottenwizard> I dealt with RPMs back with SuSe 9.3. Frankly, RPMs scare me 03:52 < Mercster> and .debs dont? 03:52 < forgottenwizard> never said they didn't 03:52 <@Bahhumbug> packages are packages 03:53 < Mercster> right 03:53 <@Bahhumbug> what's important is the manager wrapped around them 03:53 < Mercster> yaaaay yum 03:53 < Mercster> yum/rpm 03:53 < Mercster> sooo much simpler than the constellation of poor tools in debian 03:53 < forgottenwizard> I still don't see why staticly compiled bins havn't caught on 03:53 < Mercster> forgottenwizard: because it's not 1993 03:54 < forgottenwizard> No dependency resolution 03:54 < Mercster> exactly 03:54 <@Bahhumbug> because a discovered issue with the linked library forces major rebuilds for all dependent items. 03:54 < Mercster> you just answered your own question :) 03:54 < forgottenwizard> no chance of a lib crapping out and kililng half the system 03:54 < Mercster> uh 03:55 < Mercster> ok im bowing out of this 03:55 * Mercster goes back to music 03:55 < forgottenwizard> lol 03:55 <@Bahhumbug> and I'm going back to work :) 03:55 < forgottenwizard> wow. That that touchey of a subject? 03:56 < Mercster> not touchy, just stupid 03:56 < forgottenwizard> how so? 03:57 < Mercster> if you have 200 processes on a machine, why load 200 copies of the same library into memory? 03:57 < Mercster> welcome to shared libraries! 03:57 < forgottenwizard> why does that matter when you have 8+G RAM? 03:57 < Mercster> well, it may not 03:57 < forgottenwizard> it is a trade off 03:58 < forgottenwizard> actually, I think the folks at suckless.org are making a static bin-based distro 03:59 < Mercster> from an engineering standpoint, it's stupid 03:59 <@Bahhumbug> and again, that's utterly retarded. 03:59 <@Bahhumbug> glibc / uclib is shown to have a MAJOR security issue 03:59 <@Bahhumbug> you now get to rebuild the ENTIRE distribution. 03:59 < Mercster> and at the opposite end of things from your point of view, you have people still complaining that GNOME is bloated 04:00 < Mercster> imagine loading gtk2+ for every gnome component 04:00 < forgottenwizard> mhmm 04:02 < Mercster> and then you have servers that are running multiple instances of apache, named, sendmail, any number of daemons, and we're not even approaching the topic of virtualization 04:03 < Mercster> you run what you want on your desktop, but in the real world, dynamically linked libraries are just good science 04:03 < forgottenwizard> actually, doesn't linux have a new feature that allows portions of memory to be merged into a single page when they are duplicates? 04:03 < Mercster> i dont follow lkml, you tell me 04:03 < forgottenwizard> I believe so. Lemme check 04:04 < Mercster> shared libs are here to stay, sorry. im just here to tell you :) 04:04 < Mercster> adding overhead in the kernel to deal with something that's already handled by ld.so is a lose 04:05 < forgottenwizard> 2.6.37, Enable KSM (Kernel Samepage Merging) for page merging 04:06 < forgottenwizard> actually, it is probably geared towards virtualization. No point in storing the same kernel 20 times in RAM when all of them can run off one instance 04:08 < Mercster> you sound like the perfect gentoo user 04:08 < forgottenwizard> how so? 04:08 < Mercster> -O6 for the win! 04:09 < forgottenwizard> gcc doesn't go beyond -O3 04:09 < Mercster> dont tell gentoo users that 04:09 < forgottenwizard> personally I hate Gentoo, but I know it well enough to be able to work around the more annoying portions 04:09 < Mercster> i only know gentoo as a joke 04:10 < forgottenwizard> I actually do run Gentoo. I have for several years 04:10 < Mercster> i bet :) 04:10 < forgottenwizard> gradually watched it die. I've thought of migrating to Arch, but meh, I can't be bothered reinstalling right now 04:11 < Mercster> do you know why gentoo died? 04:12 < Mercster> because it was fucking stupidf 04:12 < forgottenwizard> best I can tell Dobbins left and the people who took over were more concerned about policy and politics than anything else 04:12 < Mercster> like wanting a system built entirely on static binaries 04:12 < Mercster> i suggest fedora to you 04:12 < forgottenwizard> why? 04:12 < Mercster> I MUST GO BACK TO MUSIC NOW 04:14 <@Evilpig> I think I like this rutorrent setup. if I am gonna use this for multiple users I would totally have to run multiple copies of rtorrent though 04:17 < Mercster> Evilpig: im more of a usenet person 04:20 < Mercster> they're slightly different targets 04:20 < Mercster> torrents are much more targeted, but more unreliable 04:20 < Mercster> usenet is diffuse, but reliable as fuck 04:20 <@Bahhumbug> stolen media / software is stolen media/software, the method to get it isn't really relevant. 04:20 <@Evilpig> I like my rss feeds plus a private tracker 04:21 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: it's relevant when you have to rely on a limited number of seeders 04:21 <@Evilpig> when a tv show has 10,000+ seeders on the night something comes out. it's pretty reliable 04:21 < Mercster> verses hitting your netnews server 04:22 < Mercster> Evilpig: yeah, TV is a good test case for torrents 04:22 < Mercster> you're right 04:22 < Mercster> but TV shows arent the only interesting things out there :) 04:22 <@Bahhumbug> I've never had a problem getting what I want from torrents. 04:22 <@Evilpig> but they are what I use torrents for 04:22 < Mercster> say i want a popular role playing game from 1993 04:22 < Mercster> torrents aint gonna do shit for you 04:23 <@Bahhumbug> I gave up on usenet for all intents when I stopped hosting one of the top-10 servers in the world back in '99. 04:23 < Mercster> on the other hand, usenet will probably help you 04:23 <@Evilpig> perfect example. this aired 6 hours ago, approx http://www.kickasstorrents.com/v-2009-s02e05-hdtv-xvid-2hd-eztv-t5157256.html 04:23 < Mercster> and will max out your downlink, as long as you have a decent server 04:24 <@Evilpig> 7006 seeds, 12603 leechers 04:24 < Mercster> just depends on what you download 04:24 <@Evilpig> which reminds me. I need to pull that from my ftp so I can watch here 04:24 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig: I am partial to eztv, bt-chat and tvtorrents.com 04:24 <@Evilpig> i've got the rss feed for eztv, bt-chat and supertorrents 04:25 <@Bahhumbug> combining those, and the odd smattering of tpb for uncarried shows on the other 3, works out perfectly for me. 04:25 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig: if you want an invite to tvtorrents, let me know. they've the fastest trackers I've ever seen. 04:25 < Mercster> im uninterested in 99% of TV. i watch documenaries and news on TV, sometimes the odd movie 04:25 <@Evilpig> i'll let ya know. supertorrents has been pretty damned fast for me 04:26 <@Evilpig> I am trying to talk the guys that run the site to coming to talk at PN about running a "high traffic" web site 04:26 < Mercster> well, ill be fair 04:26 < Mercster> OH 04:26 < Mercster> that reminds me! 04:26 < Mercster> you guys watch Jeopardy! ? 04:26 <@Evilpig> nope. but I heard about the computer being put on there 04:26 < Mercster> dude from knoxville has been champion 2 days in a row! 04:27 < Mercster> and he's DOMINATED, too 04:27 <@Bahhumbug> meh 04:27 < Mercster> Evilpig: yeah im gonna watch that too 04:27 <@Bahhumbug> whene he beats Ken Jennings I'll be impressed. 04:27 < Mercster> but i watch every episode of Jeopardu 04:27 < Mercster> Jeopardy, rather 04:27 <@Bahhumbug> so do we. 04:27 <@Bahhumbug> well, we try to, schedules don't always permit it. 04:27 <@Bahhumbug> work and all that. 04:27 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: he may not, but Jennings is going up against IBM's Watson next week 04:28 < Mercster> Feb 14-16 iirc 04:28 <@Bahhumbug> I've done a bit of reading up on Watson. 04:28 < Mercster> Bahhumbug: that's why i have a DVR 04:28 <@Bahhumbug> There is no way that 2 humans can beat it. 04:28 < Mercster> i watch jeopardy every day, but not when it airs 04:28 < Mercster> i watch it when it's convenient for me :) 04:28 <@Bahhumbug> I can torrent it down daily, but I don't bother. 04:29 <@Bahhumbug> it's one of the few shows we take the time to watch live. and quite ofter over dinner. 04:29 < Mercster> well it's not live anyway 04:29 <@Bahhumbug> you know what I mean :/ 04:29 < Mercster> you mean "i like to watch it when it airs" 04:29 < Mercster> yeah but, why "meh" at DVR'ing it 04:29 <@Bahhumbug> If I want pedantic I'll go back to work. 04:29 < Mercster> i watch it every day :) 04:30 <@Bahhumbug> Which, sadly, I need to do. I've got proposals I need on someones desk in the morning. 04:32 < Mercster> anyway 04:32 < Mercster> yeah last 2 days, dude from knoxville 04:32 < Mercster> he's a "web developer" 04:32 < Mercster> paul 04:32 < Mercster> he's been kicking ass and taking names 04:33 <@Evilpig> found a neat css rendering glitch in chrome earlier 04:34 <@Evilpig> table with 9 frames. 3x3. set the table to 100% width. each frame has an image inside it all equal size. set the img property to height: 100% width:100% 04:35 <@Evilpig> that should always render witht he table at the max width of the screen, oh and I had height set at 100% too. and the images should be all the same size 04:35 <@Evilpig> it was random as to which was what size. I had a widescreen like aspect in the middle then two tiny ones on either side, etc. every combination you can imagine I got. ff, safari and ie all loaded the same. chrome... was strange 04:36 <@Evilpig> ended up setting the td element to 33% and it solved it. 04:37 < Mercster> fascinating 04:40 < Mercster> heh, ill lay ya nuts on a dresser, just ya fuckin' nuts layin' on a fuckin' dresser, an' BANG dem shits wit a spiked fuckin bat....shhh-da BLAOW! 04:40 < Mercster> ill fuckin', ill fuckin 04:41 < Mercster> ill sew ya asshole closed and keep FEEDIN' YOU 04:41 < Mercster> an' FEEDIN' YOU 04:41 < Mercster> an' FEEDIN' YOU 04:42 <@Evilpig> anyone know of a simple app I can load on my webserver to get me video streaming? 04:42 <@Evilpig> like I have a directory full of files that I want it to transcode, most likely, and feed to me via something. flash, etc 04:42 < Mercster> no idea 04:43 < Mercster> i'd like a little web app that would stream video from my live webcam 04:44 <@Evilpig> I've use a few. yawcam can do that 04:44 < Mercster> linux? 04:44 < Mercster> ive got win7 on the desktop 04:44 <@Evilpig> I got pissed at it cause it is written in java and made my system run like absolute ass 04:44 <@Evilpig> it was for windows 04:44 < Mercster> oh yeah 04:44 < Mercster> hm 04:45 < Mercster> ill look into it 04:45 <@Evilpig> it can be set to run as a service too 04:45 < Mercster> huh 04:45 < Mercster> but you said it's bloated shit eh 04:45 <@Evilpig> hidden. not seen. just worked 04:45 <@Evilpig> it's java... 04:45 < Mercster> heh 04:45 < Mercster> well, ill look into it 04:45 < Mercster> thanks 04:46 <@Evilpig> it isn't bloated, per se, just java... slow and doesn't give a shit whatelse the system is doing 04:46 < Mercster> nod 04:47 < Mercster> Evilpig: it'd be nice if it could be toggled 04:48 < Mercster> start working, stop working 04:48 <@Evilpig> play with it. you can start and stop it any number of ways. 04:48 < Mercster> ok 04:48 <@Evilpig> I used it for years and only ever stopped it when I was trying to play WoW or something that actually used the system 04:49 < Mercster> gotcha 04:49 < Mercster> sounds like it would be reasonable for intermittent "hey look at me" type situations 04:49 <@Evilpig> yup 04:49 < Mercster> downloading now 04:49 <@Evilpig> I might even have the quick code snippet you need to make it live. sec 04:50 <@Evilpig> 04:50 <@Evilpig> 04:51 < Mercster> hum 04:51 < Mercster> ok, thanks 04:51 <@Evilpig> i'd have to upload the js someplace though. 04:51 < Mercster> wait wait 04:51 <@Evilpig> wilpig.org/temp/yawcam.js 04:51 < Mercster> the .js doesnt come in the package? 04:51 <@Evilpig> it probably is 04:51 < Mercster> see this should be easier 04:51 <@Evilpig> I don't remember. it was a while back 04:52 <@Evilpig> I had to turn it off cause my wife thought the camera being on all the time was creepy 04:52 < Mercster> this is 2011, why cant we have easy webcam software 04:52 <@Evilpig> and I had a stalker for a while that made it worse 04:52 < Mercster> haha 04:52 < Mercster> ok ive got the code, if i need it 04:53 < Mercster> frankly there should be something like "just put this in your DOCROOT" 04:54 < Mercster> but of course, im a dumbass 04:55 <@Evilpig> http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=7f08931d-b25b-4e83-8a6f-1d295d297b23 ROFL I want this game 04:56 < Mercster> oh lord 04:56 < Mercster> speaking of games 04:57 < Mercster> oh shuttup mexican lady 04:57 < Mercster> anyway 04:57 < Mercster> speaking of games 04:57 < Mercster> i was playing angry birds yesterday 04:57 < Mercster> and boy, do i suck at angry birds 04:57 <@Evilpig> like angry birds 04:57 < Mercster> i have friends who are trying to get 3 stars on every level 04:58 < Mercster> im lucky if i can pass a fucking level 04:58 <@Evilpig> I semi-gave up on that 04:58 <@Evilpig> I got nearly all the first three pages done at three stars 04:58 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:58 < Mercster> and i havent even gotten to where you get anything other than the normal red birds 04:58 < Mercster> even the basic levels fuck me up 04:58 < Mercster> i guess im a dumbass 04:58 < Mercster> or just bad at games 04:59 < Mercster> i think i just lack the patience 05:04 < Mercster> i try one or two times on a level, i fail, and then im like "fuck this" 05:05 < Mercster> it's partially random too, sometimes the pigs die easily and other times it doesnt go so well 05:05 < Mercster> so it's not deterministic at all 06:23 <@Evilpig> "Birthday present from Mom & Dad" http://i.imgur.com/hE2MB.jpg 06:49 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 08:21 <@Evilpig> either everyone on the mailing list is mailing me directly OR I fucked up the mailman config and set it to default to send to the poster not the list 08:22 -!- epoxy_ [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 08:24 -!- epoxy_ [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 08:25 -!- uSynx [~Synx@unaffiliated/synxhm/x-393023] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:38 < Mercster> moonlight 08:38 < Mercster> on 08:38 < Mercster> vermont 08:44 < epoxy> word. 08:44 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.nandomedia.com] has joined #se2600 08:57 < Mercster> goes to show you what a moon can do... 09:10 <@oddball> I know Phreaknic is a long way off, but think there would be interest in having a robot battle there? 09:11 <@oddball> I found out one of the guys I take Tae Kwon Do with is into that sort of thing. 09:19 <@Evilpig> oddball: if we can get enough people ahead of time saying they want to come out and have a robot battle, you know i'm down for it 09:19 <@Evilpig> i'll be ring side bottle in hand 09:20 < Dickie> "water" bottle 09:21 <@oddball> He was saying that there were some folks that wanted to get something going in Nashville. They're going to be at MTAC and GMX. I'm going to try to get them at Hypericon (being the gaming director and all), and figured you guys would be interested. 09:22 <@Evilpig> yeah we're interested. we've got some guys coming out for warhammer 40k that weekend 09:22 < Dickie> Neeeeeeeeeerd 09:22 <@oddball> heh, really? 09:22 <@Evilpig> yup 09:23 <@Evilpig> they're bringing a good sized setup from what I was told 09:23 <@oddball> Hell, if you guys really want nerdy, I might be able to arrange a magic tourney for you. 09:23 <@Evilpig> talked to two of them and confirmed twice already 09:23 <@Evilpig> we're pulling out the stops this year. we're shooting for overflow spawn 09:23 <@Evilpig> spce* 09:23 < Dickie> I'm joshin'. I do the D&D. 09:23 <@Evilpig> fuck I can't type 09:24 <@Evilpig> we've been discussing some interesting marketting ideas too. gotta get the date set for sure then that will go full force. gonna start on the website next week possibly 09:25 <@oddball> cool 09:25 <@Evilpig> we do have a date in mind already as well. just waiting on the nfl schedule but if we get the one we want we'll have a return of Elonka and Laughingboy 09:26 <@Evilpig> if the NFL strikes this year, as predicted, we'll have our choice of dates 09:27 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:31 < epoxy> any FL2600 people here? 09:40 <@oddball> I thought Laughingboy had gotten too cool for Phreaknic. 09:40 <@oddball> Or rather, he was too busy off chasing ghosts that time of year. 09:41 <@muskyhusky> epoxy, well considering i haven't been to a 2600 meeting down here im not sure 09:41 <@muskyhusky> i think the only thing really active around here is golug 09:42 < epoxy> muskyhusky, you're in orlando? 09:42 <@muskyhusky> yes 09:42 < epoxy> leap is very active :) 09:42 <@Evilpig> laughingboy has been chasing ghosts that time of year. it is his money maker now 09:42 <@muskyhusky> oh 09:43 < epoxy> muskyhusky, I'm moving to metrowest in April. I hear there are meets in Tampa 09:43 <@oddball> Evilpig: right. Which is why I'm surprised to hear that he may be back this year. 09:43 <@muskyhusky> thats a bit of a drive for a meeting 09:43 <@muskyhusky> 2 hrs 09:43 < epoxy> i threw up http://fl2600.org but don't have anything to put on there quite yet .. i just notices in #fl2600 people were always stopping in to ask if there was a meet in XYZ 09:43 <@Evilpig> oddball: that's because we are looking at the first weekend in november. ;) 09:44 <@oddball> gotcha 09:44 <@Evilpig> already been in contact with him about it 09:44 <@muskyhusky> i dunno what leap is 09:44 <@Evilpig> even used the excuse of "damnit patrick, there are haunted places in nashville you can poke with a stick" 09:45 < epoxy> muskyhusky, http://www.leap-cf.org/ another LUG 09:45 <@oddball> I even know someone that used to give the Haunted Nashville tours. 09:45 < epoxy> there is a BUG also... http://www.beap-cf.info/ 09:45 <@oddball> Hell, our Columbia office is fucking haunted. 09:46 <@muskyhusky> oh nice 09:46 <@Evilpig> oddball: just because former employees left ghosts int he system that doesn't mean the joint is haunted 09:46 < epoxy> muskyhusky, moving to orlando from NC... should be interesting ;) 09:46 <@oddball> Oh, no... it's in an old house that's on the historic registry. 09:47 <@oddball> I was hearing shit going on there while I was setting the office up. 09:47 <@muskyhusky> i was thinking about going to one of their installfest but ive used nix for years so i dunno 09:48 < epoxy> Heh.. you could go help out some ubuntu noobs ;) 09:49 < epoxy> not that that is bad.. just say'n :) 09:49 <@oddball> It's also a good way to meet folks. 09:50 < epoxy> yup y up.. i'll be there when I get there. Moving to a new place far away with an at-home job. 09:50 * epoxy needs socialization 09:50 <@oddball> I had a pretty good time when I hosted the nlug install fests at NewHo. 09:52 <@muskyhusky> epoxy, might wanna join #leap 09:53 <@muskyhusky> a few people chat there 09:53 < epoxy> ah 10:06 <@muskyhusky> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/856582/1297246163690.jpg 10:06 <@muskyhusky> sfw 10:07 <@opticron> ew 10:08 < epoxy> haha 10:08 < epoxy> I wonder if there is any corruption in that 10:09 <@muskyhusky> hmm 10:15 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:04 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:30 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:32 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 11:59 -!- ware [ware@phneak.net] has joined #se2600 12:00 < ware> whats the nash2600 presiding board look like now? 12:02 <@Corydon76-home> Looks like a bunch of guys 12:03 < ware> ? 12:03 <@Corydon76-home> epoxy: Somehow, I doubt it works at all 12:03 < ware> what does that mean? 12:03 < ware> i thought the election results were supposed to go out to the list 12:03 <@Corydon76-home> That is an indicative word 12:03 <@Corydon76-home> But I thought the group was dead! 12:04 < ware> so they election results are not supposed to go out to the list? 12:04 < ware> the* 12:04 < ware> such a fickle group =/ 12:04 < ware> anyone else know the election results but are willing to share? 12:05 <@Corydon76-home> I'm not president, how 'bout that? 12:05 < ware> doesnt tell me what i want to know 12:05 < ware> so youre still useless 12:05 < ware> ty 12:05 <@Corydon76-home> NotLarry is president 12:07 < ware> thanks! 12:07 -!- ware [ware@phneak.net] has left #se2600 [] 12:28 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:54 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:06 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:14 <@Bahhumbug> ware is so very pleasant. 14:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [-o Bahhumbug] by Bahhumbug 14:15 < Dickie> Shhhhh... 14:39 -!- cordless [~cordless@145.116.228.165] has joined #se2600 14:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o cordless] by ChanServ 14:40 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:41 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 15:01 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:20 -!- Falun [~richard@75-37-195-222.lightspeed.lsatca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:31 < Mercster> dachau blues, dem poor jews... 15:36 -!- k4k [~K4k@c-24-30-28-67.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:43 * Dickie wiggles 16:06 * Bahhumbug twitches 16:29 * Mercster twiddles 16:31 -!- Corydon76-home [mauve@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:31 -!- muskyhusky [Smegma@unaffiliated/coil] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:31 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-243-130.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:31 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-243-130.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:31 -!- Sheath [Smegma@unaffiliated/coil] has joined #se2600 16:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Sheath] by ChanServ 16:37 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@75.92.43.21] has joined #se2600 16:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 16:43 -!- Corydon76-home [gold@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-home] by ChanServ 16:47 -!- peaches1984 [indigo@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:54 -!- uSynx [~Synx@unaffiliated/synxhm/x-393023] has joined #se2600 16:59 -!- Dickie is now known as DICKIE 16:59 -!- DICKIE is now known as Dickie 17:20 -!- uSynx [~Synx@unaffiliated/synxhm/x-393023] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:20 -!- uSynx [~Synx@unaffiliated/synxhm/x-393023] has joined #se2600 17:21 -!- ladymerlin [ladymerlin@bbis.us] has joined #se2600 17:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ladymerlin] by ChanServ 17:45 -!- uSynx [~Synx@unaffiliated/synxhm/x-393023] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 18:40 -!- peaches1984 [indigo@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:45 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 18:45 < eryc> fuck your crackers 18:50 <@opticron> D: not my crackers 18:54 -!- fie_ [~fie@adsl-67-125-135-55.dsl.frsn02.pacbell.net] has joined #se2600 18:55 -!- fie [~fie@adsl-75-31-163-124.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:04 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@75.92.43.21] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 20:38 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Quit: End of line.] 20:39 < Dickie> You can fuck my crackers. 20:39 < Dickie> I'm done with them. 20:48 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@c-24-30-28-67.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:48 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@c-24-30-28-67.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:49 <@Dagmar> Damnit 20:49 <@Dagmar> I'm about to heave to break out some science on this machine 20:50 < eryc> I fucked yo crackers! 20:50 <@Dagmar> Symptoms: Gf's machine is entirely identical to mine with the exception of hard drives and PSUs, and the fucking motherboard's integrated video BIOS *won't* stop on hers 20:51 <@Dagmar> When it boots, it shows the *name* of the add-on PCIe card, and a BIOS revision not listed anywher 20:52 <@Dagmar> Since it's a 7xxx series card onboard, if you install a 6600GT, it basically refuses to use _any_ of the PCIe card 20:52 <@Dagmar> Like, the onboard literally takes over the add-on nVidia card 20:53 <@Dagmar> I'm gonna fuckin take the addon card out, boot the goddamn thing into XP using the onboard, and reflash the damn _video_ chipset with the latest nVidia BIOS package from ASUS 20:53 <@Dagmar> ...and if that doesn't work, I'm going to KILL. IT. WITH. FIRE. 20:56 <@Dagmar> This is a bitch because when I built her this machine I intended for it to END any problems 20:56 <@Dagmar> ...so I made it an exact duplicate of mine... which runs like a fuckin' champ 20:56 < Mercster> _wow_ DAMN *that sucks* 20:56 < Mercster> also, fuckin' 20:57 <@Dagmar> Oh another very awesome symptom is that the damn thing frequently decides that the 1440x900 video mode doesn't exist. 21:01 <@opticron> huh 21:03 <@Dagmar> Windows polls the video card to get the resolutions it supports 21:03 <@opticron> hardware glitch? 21:03 <@Dagmar> The perfectly normal 1440x900 mode simply _disappears_ from the list. Sucky thing is that's the res of the monitor the machine is connected to 21:04 <@Dagmar> Like, it's really clear the 7025's BIOS isn't disabling itself, and overwriting part of the PCIe card's BIOS, or possibly driving the thing 21:09 <@Dagmar> If this doesn't sort it I'll replace that damn motherboard 21:09 <@Dagmar> Under Linux you can *see* that the output of lspci is crap 21:10 <@Dagmar> ...that is, after you spend several minutes trying to get a usable console on it 21:10 <@opticron> ouch 21:41 < eryc> sounds like you need a new printer 21:48 <@Dagmar> gonna try a different approach now. 21:48 <@Dagmar> I'm booting the thing up without the monitor connected 21:52 < Mercster> add bacon 21:53 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:58 <@Dagmar> No joy. Different VGA cable (just by some wild chance), also no effect. 21:58 <@Dagmar> Fuckit. The motherboard's getting replaced when I upgrade my fileserver 21:59 < Mercster> *wow*, _cool_ 21:59 < Mercster> FUCKIN' 22:17 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@c-24-30-28-67.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:18 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@c-24-30-28-67.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:20 -!- forgottenwizard [~none@c-69-180-212-236.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:52 < Todd> wait.. I heard windows. There's your problem. 23:02 -!- rhia [~rhia@pool-71-164-2-246.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:27 <@Dagmar> I wish it were --- Log closed Thu Feb 10 00:00:55 2011