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08:29 < eryc> http://i.imgur.com/kfp4U.jpg
09:19 <@unixfg> a local hosting company we manage a server for had all their company E-mail account passwords set to 12345678
09:19 <@unixfg> I had to explain to them why that caused them to have 64,000 outgoing messages stuck in queue
09:20 <@unixfg> we're gonna upgrade our old-ass mail system soon, and implement vpopmail with password security enforcement :)
09:22 <@Neoteric> why do they call it "uncanny valley?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9MgA9kcw9I
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10:05 < MaxieZ> sdodson: No, I left nationalnet.  I'm at secureworks.
10:07 <@Evilpig> MaxieZ: could you stop them from emailing the noc.  k thx.  I don't like the email from secureworks
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10:16 < MaxieZ> Eh?
10:16 < MaxieZ> What email?
10:16 < MaxieZ> Like alerts or spam?
10:30 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
10:37 < MaxieZ> Howdy
10:41 <@Evilpig> oh alerts
10:41 <@Evilpig> they're directed at some asshole upstairs and they just like to make sure we're in on the spam
10:41 < MaxieZ> Are they invalid alerts?
10:41 <@Evilpig> I think they might be real.  we don't have logins to them anyway
10:42 < MaxieZ> Oh.  Well, then probably not
10:42 < MaxieZ> Should you have logins?
10:42 <@Evilpig> nope
10:42 <@Evilpig> we NOC slackers.  we do nuthin'
10:42 < MaxieZ> I think I'd tell the asshole upstairs to stop spamming you with stuff you can't do anything about.
10:43 <@Evilpig> I think I should play a little wow now
10:43 < MaxieZ> heh
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10:43 < MaxieZ> Sounds fun
10:43 < MaxieZ> I got to 71 last night on my shaman
10:43 <@Evilpig> notlarry is trying to be funny and I wanna stuff him into schrodinger's box
10:43 < MaxieZ> Don't do it.  There's a cat in there.
10:44 <@Evilpig> there might not be a cat in there.  you don't really know.  the content of the box could change just from trying to see what's int here
10:44 <@Evilpig> just liek his joke might have been funny but we don't know for sure because we tried to see if it was funny
10:45 <@Evilpig> he claims he is practicing quantum humor
10:53 < MaxieZ> No, there's a cat in there...we know that
10:53 < MaxieZ> We just don't know how healthy it is :)
10:54 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: said how can you be positive there is a cat in there
10:54 <@Evilpig> once the box is closed the cat's very existence is in question
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11:18 < MaxieZ> Because it's a given.  I trust shrodinger.  Why would he lie to me?
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11:43 < MaxieZ> I just got asked a strange question, but I think it should be possible
11:44 < MaxieZ> Can you encrypt a file with a ssh key?
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12:03 <@Evilpig> I would think you could. but I'm thinking about it
12:17 < MaxieZ> Yeah
12:17 < MaxieZ> I know have our research department looking into it.
12:18 < MaxieZ> er now
12:22 < MaxieZ> I figured it out
12:22 < MaxieZ> openssl can convert them
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14:39 <@timoguin> anyone here subscribe to the Memphis list?
14:40 <@timoguin> Just mailed to subscribe and got a bounce
14:40 <@timoguin> used 901-subscribe@memphis2600.org
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21:35 < daswork> Wow.
21:35 < daswork> That Jared Loughner (congresswoman shooter) may be crazy.
21:35 < daswork> Supposedly, this is him:  http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/erad3.html
21:36 < daswork> He wrote stuff like this:
21:36 < daswork> f NASA creates a mars rover that communicates from mars then the signal reaches from the distance of mars.
21:36 < daswork> The signal doesn’t reach from the distance of mars.
21:36 < daswork> Nonetheless, NASA creates a mars rover that doesn’t communicate from mars.
21:36 < daswork> Er, If NASA
21:38 <@Bahhumbug> crazy or not, he needs dead
21:39 < daswork> I'm a pinko or something.  If he's that crazy, he's not there.
21:39 < daswork> I'm all for him being locked up for life in a mental institution.
21:39 <@Bahhumbug> Good, you can pay for it.
21:40 < daswork> Probably cheaper than the death penalty.
21:40 <@Bahhumbug> bullets are cheap, 2 rounds in the back of the head.  unmarked grave.  done.
21:40 < daswork> I tend to go with a least-priviledges approach to government power.
21:40 < daswork> Less power they have the better.
21:40 <@Bahhumbug> I tend to go with "caught red-handed, no possible way that he didn't do what he's accused of, 9 year old dead child."
21:41 < daswork> Yah, if it was limited to that, I'd have less objections.
21:41 < daswork> But it seems to devolve to "unpopular, poor, not-mainstream".
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21:42 <@Bahhumbug> 16 people shot, others shot and killed.  he needs dead.  you don't fucking kill children.
21:43 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, and "reloading as he was taken down and held for LEOs"
21:43 < daswork> But is modeling the justice system around exceptional cases the way to go?
21:44 <@Bahhumbug> I can't say I am that strong of a proponent for the death penalty considering how bad most states have botched things up in the past few decades, but when the crime is this blatant there is no point in incarcerating for life, keeping hospitalized for life or even dealing with the capital route.
21:45 <@Bahhumbug> I am also somewhat jaded.  I indirectly knew one of  Gacy's victims; older step-brother of a girl I was in grade school with.
21:45 <@Bahhumbug> That tends to taint ones opinions when crimes are as blatant with without question as this recent incident.
21:47 <@opticron> More people should be armed so they can defend themselves.
21:48 <@Bahhumbug> hear hear.
21:48 <@opticron> knives, guns, whatever
21:49 <@opticron> if someone is shooting at me and all I have is a knife, I'm still going to get when he's not looking
21:49 <@Bahhumbug> arm every person over the age of 18, not convicted of a felony, and not declared to be mentally incapcitated with proper gun safety classes.
21:49 <@Bahhumbug> (and yes, this includes teachers and other school employees)
21:49 <@opticron> I agree entirely.
21:49 < daswork> There were two concealed carriers at the event.
21:49 < daswork> But they didn't shoot.
21:49 <@Bahhumbug> charge them with manslaughter for inaction.
21:50 <@Bahhumbug> I know I sound like a heinous asshole, but enough of this shit is enough.
21:50 < daswork> Correctly, as far as I can tell, they couldn't be sure of the identity of the target, and were not sure of getting a clear shot.
21:50 <@Bahhumbug> well, yeah.
21:50 <@Bahhumbug> ok.
21:50 <@Bahhumbug> I need to take a step back on this.
21:50 < daswork> Just because someone is law-abiding carrying doesn't mean they turn into dirty harry.
21:51 < daswork> Concealed carry isn't really for cases like this.  Mass shootings have too much confusion.  It's to make some perp on a dark night think twice about mugging that old lady because she might have a pistol.
21:51 <@Bahhumbug> but if someone had the chance to safely take him out with no collateral damage you are obligated to do so.
21:51 < daswork> Yep.
21:52 < daswork> Hell, if I was there, I'd tackle him if I didn't have a gun.  Not because I'm brave, but because I'd rather not live with the guilt if he killed someone else while I did nothing.
21:52 < daswork> I'd rather not die, to be honest, but I think dying would be easier than going through life knowing some child was killed because you were too afraid to do something.
21:53 <@Bahhumbug> indeed
22:36 <@sdodson> herro thar
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