--- Log opened Tue Jan 04 00:00:05 2011 00:07 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@96.5.81.157] has joined #se2600 00:07 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@96.5.81.157] has quit [Changing host] 00:07 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 00:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 00:12 -!- K4k [~K4k@c-24-30-28-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:16 -!- CRasH180_ [~CRasH180@96.5.81.157] has joined #se2600 00:18 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:20 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 00:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 00:21 -!- CRasH180_ [~CRasH180@96.5.81.157] has left #se2600 [] 00:27 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@96.5.81.157] has joined #se2600 00:28 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@96.5.81.157] has quit [Changing host] 00:28 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 00:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 00:34 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: f'ing computers] 00:34 -!- K4k [~K4k@c-24-30-28-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:34 -!- K4k [~K4k@c-24-30-28-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:40 -!- K4k [~K4k@c-24-30-28-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:45 -!- K4k [~K4k@c-24-30-28-242.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:45 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: put on wool socks. As your feet feel, so the rest of you feels 01:06 -!- forgottenwizard [~none@c-98-211-46-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:09 -!- forgottenwizard [~none@c-98-211-46-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:13 -!- jnds [~ljugo@74-141-119-252.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #se2600 01:15 -!- Jagobah [~ljugo@74-141-119-252.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:23 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:36 -!- peaches1984 [blue@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:48 <@Dagmar> That won't do much about chills 01:49 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: I'm just relating what works for me. It's odd, but it works. 01:53 <@Bahhumbug> alternatively you could start drinking heavily. while in and of itself it won't do anything to warm you up eventually you will get so hammered you just won't care. 02:07 <@Dagmar> Fucking Comcast 02:07 <@Dagmar> Cable tuner had crashed again 02:07 <@Dagmar> ...and like they'll ever do shit about it other than smarmily suggest I buy their DVR service 02:08 <@Dagmar> I'll do that right before I show up at their office with a can of gasoline and a zippo 02:12 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: So basically, you recommend I take NyQuil 02:17 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:19 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:21 <@Dagmar> Wow. 02:22 <@Dagmar> So, Opheria just caught something funny 02:22 <@Dagmar> The episode of Clear House ("The Mast Family") that was just on, apparently uses shills 02:22 <@Dagmar> Mrs. Mast is not Mrs Mast but actually Miriam Dwyer who used to be a barista at Bongo 02:22 <@Dagmar> Imagine that, another fake reality show 02:23 <@Dagmar> If I didn't lIke Miriam I'd go link her entry on IMDB to the show episode 02:30 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:44 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: eryc, daswork, @sasquatc4, Dickie, +Gatewayy, scribbles, @nachoguy 02:45 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: fie 02:45 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @Dagmar 02:45 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @Corydon76-home 02:45 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Lissa_ 02:46 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @brookshire 02:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: fie, Dickie, @nachoguy, scribbles, eryc, @sasquatc4, daswork, @Dagmar 02:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @Corydon76-home, Lissa_ 02:49 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @brookshire 02:49 -!- Netsplit over, joins: +Gatewayy 02:50 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: do you mean CleaN House? 03:03 <@Evilpig> on another note. I saw this in my messages log and I found it interesting. 03:03 <@Evilpig> named[14077]: success resolving 'bankofafrica.com/MX' (in 'bankofafrica.com'?) after reducing the advertised EDNS UDP packet size to 512 octets 03:15 <@Dagmar> Your nameserver allows the world to query it? 03:15 <@Dagmar> Those happen all the time. They're a sneaky form of DDoS 03:15 <@Evilpig> no. that was an mx reverse lookup 03:15 <@Evilpig> spamfilter to be precise 03:16 <@Dagmar> Spoof query of to open nameserver using victim IP... Nameserver makes recursive query, gets *LARGE* answer. Open nameserver then forwards LARGE answer to victim IP. 03:17 <@Dagmar> Weird. then 03:17 <@Dagmar> Looks like bind log entries to me tho 03:17 <@Evilpig> on another dns note. still trying to get xname.org to act as my secondary. I get an email from them saying they are updating the zone but I watch the log and don't see any transfers from them at all 03:18 <@Evilpig> I have the info messages from bind going to syslog 03:25 <@Dagmar> Right so... 03:25 <@Dagmar> About three minutes ago... 03:26 <@Dagmar> ... hatrsg2haet [~000@ip72-204-75-222.fv.ks.cox.net] has joined #wowuidev 03:26 <@Dagmar> (note that the IP address is clearly visible) 03:26 <@Dagmar> http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1294131798487.jpg 03:26 <@Dagmar> I aint afraid of no warden 03:26 <@Dagmar> I fuck with him and mention I might just be forwarding that info to Blizzard 03:27 <@Dagmar> ... hatrsg2haet is now known as electronicmaji 03:27 <@Dagmar> He then disconnects and reconnects ... electronicmaji [~000@unaffiliated/electronicmaji] has joined #wowuidev 03:27 <@Evilpig> lol 03:27 <@Dagmar> Yeah, NOW I'm going to send the info and the image to Blizzard just because he's a dumb shit who forgot to auth himself 03:27 <@Dagmar> Fucking incompetents 03:28 <@Evilpig> check armory for variations of electronicmaji 03:29 <@Dagmar> If that came up I would have shit myself 03:30 <@Evilpig> the name on the SS was short enough to be like maji. but I'm sure that is common as all get out 03:38 -!- Falun [~richard@75-37-195-222.lightspeed.lsatca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:40 <@Dagmar> I love it when people with really rare mounts take screenshots showing them up to something suspicious and let us know their class, their race, and their profession 03:42 <@Dagmar> I like how on the right-hand screen it even shows the first letter of the toon's name in the unit frame 03:44 <@Dagmar> HAHAHAHAH 03:44 <@Dagmar> Look at the exif data 03:44 <@Dagmar> *tears* 03:45 <@Evilpig> oh nice 03:45 <@Evilpig> wesley 03:45 <@Evilpig> http://regex.info/exif.cgi?b=3&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.4chan.org%2Fv%2Fsrc%2F1294131798487.jpg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.4chan.org%2Fv%2Fsrc%2F1294131798487.jpg 03:47 <@Evilpig> that says 82 Mage 03:47 <@Evilpig> could be an L,U,M,N 03:49 <@Dagmar> Also very much a gnome 06:27 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:37 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-169-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:40 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-169-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 07:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mog] by ChanServ 07:58 -!- Neoteric [~timball@pool-74-96-38-204.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 07:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 08:07 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@dialin.inttek.net] has joined #se2600 08:25 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@dialin.inttek.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:08 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-250-54.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 09:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 09:08 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 09:12 < MaxieZ> Howdy big D 09:12 <@Dolemite> What's new, Maxie? 09:13 < MaxieZ> Well, I'm working for secureworks. 09:14 < MaxieZ> Which apparently is being bought by Dell. 09:14 <@Dolemite> aha 09:14 < MaxieZ> So that's new. 09:14 <@Dolemite> So no more pr0n slinging? 09:14 < MaxieZ> No, I left them in October. 09:15 <@Dolemite> Man, you should have hooked us up before you left! 09:15 < MaxieZ> heh 09:15 < MaxieZ> Most of those sites are so poorly secured, it's trivial to get access 09:15 < MaxieZ> Hell, they give it away anyways. 09:16 <@Dolemite> heh 09:19 -!- Neoteric [~timball@pool-74-96-38-204.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:23 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.nandomedia.com] has joined #se2600 10:04 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 10:05 < MaxieZ> Howdy 10:09 <@nachoguy> MZ! It's been forever since I've seen you non idle 10:09 <@nachoguy> so you're a Deller now? 10:09 < MaxieZ> Yeah. Perhaps. 10:09 < MaxieZ> I don't think that's official for a bit 10:10 <@nachoguy> well, at least partial congrats 10:17 <@Dolemite> DUDE. You got a DELL! 10:28 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@dialin.inttek.net] has joined #se2600 10:28 < MaxieZ> Thanks 10:28 < MaxieZ> Though it's more like, Dude, Dell got you. 10:31 -!- Falun [~richard@75-37-195-222.lightspeed.lsatca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 10:36 <@Dolemite> It appears to be official - Dell has an announcement on their web page, and The Register has an article linking to it 10:42 -!- Bahhumbug [~jrd@unaffiliated/gerdesas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:42 -!- Bahhumbug [~jrd@unaffiliated/gerdesas] has joined #se2600 10:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by ChanServ 10:49 -!- Neoteric [~timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #se2600 10:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 10:55 < MaxieZ> Yeah 10:55 < MaxieZ> I wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise :) 11:00 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@75.92.43.21] has joined #se2600 11:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 11:29 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 11:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 11:33 <@Dolemite> So I ordered a part from NewEgg, which shipped out of the Memphis warehouse via DHL last week. To get across the same state, it has now been in 4 different ones, and is still not delivered. 11:33 <@Dolemite> TN -> MO -> KY -> GA 11:33 <@Dolemite> We'll see if it hits California next 11:33 <+fall0ut> newegg fail 11:34 <@Dolemite> DHL fail 11:34 <+fall0ut> amzn > newegg 11:34 <@Dolemite> newegg just put it on their truck 11:34 < MaxieZ> I'd like to see it leave the country myself 11:34 < MaxieZ> DHL almost ruined Christmas for us one year. 11:34 < MaxieZ> Had to drive to one of their facilities to pick up something they swore would be delivered on time 11:35 <+fall0ut> ups is no better 11:35 <@Dolemite> I hate DHL 11:35 <@Dolemite> At least with UPS, if newegg puts it on their truck today, I will get it at my house tomorrow 11:35 <+fall0ut> maybe 11:36 <+fall0ut> i had a rash of overnight stuff disappear for 3+ weeks with ups last year 11:36 <+fall0ut> amzn fixed it all tho 11:36 <+fall0ut> amzn is win <3 11:38 <@Dolemite> I don't have anything against amazon, I just find newegg or other retailers to have better pricing 11:38 <@Dolemite> although sometimes amazon wins out 11:46 -!- nachoguy [~boster@hofner.dreamhost.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:18 -!- Gatewayy [~gatewayy@pdpc/supporter/active/gatewayy] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:33 -!- Neoteric [~timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:37 -!- Neoteric [~timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #se2600 12:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 12:46 < todd> http://www.boingboing.net/2011/01/04/just-look-at-this-cu.html 12:52 < epoxy> hmm. anyone know where to find tech jobs? I've been watching craigslist in a number of cities of interest and monster.com blows. 12:52 < epoxy> it's hard to filter out all those damn web dev jobs :D 12:57 <@sasquatc4> i thought dice always had a good selection of tech 13:03 < epoxy> a 13:03 < epoxy> hh 13:04 < epoxy> finally a search with exclude 13:23 -!- nachoguy [~boster@hofner.dreamhost.com] has joined #se2600 13:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o nachoguy] by ChanServ 14:00 -!- pie_ [~rawr@74-128-172-15.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #se2600 14:03 -!- pierut [~rawr@74-128-172-15.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:47 < epoxy> shitty.. my car got robbed on new years day apparently 14:51 -!- Corydon76-home changed the topic of #se2600 to: 2600 meetings this Friday | Notlarry: Now here's what I like. Come here mr. sheep. 14:51 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@dialin.inttek.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:23 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:26 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:50 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home: kiawani said to show you this and say johnny got rabies. http://i.imgur.com/PM0gk.jpg 16:50 <@Corydon76-home> Poor Johnny 16:51 <@Evilpig> fucker's got an axe. i'd run 16:51 <@Corydon76-home> Though that might explain how he was brave enough to consider attacking a Siberian Husky 16:51 <@Corydon76-home> Harry is now somewhat afraid of Johnny and Tiki 16:52 <@Evilpig> bed for me now. heh 16:57 <@Neoteric> is there a tool to inspect what's going in and out of a unix socket ?? 16:59 <@Neoteric> it's socat so fu all for helping 17:05 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has joined #se2600 17:43 -!- Neoteric [~timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:05 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:15 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 18:37 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@75.92.43.21] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 18:48 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.nandomedia.com] has quit [Quit: Comments like that are why you have no friends] 19:06 <@Dagmar> THIS SUCKS 19:06 <@Dagmar> I'm going to see a goddamn doctor tomorrow 19:06 <@Dagmar> I want to know the name of my attempted murderer 19:06 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: No diphenhydramine? 19:06 * Dagmar looks fuzzily at some labels 19:07 <@Corydon76-home> aka Benadryl 19:07 <@Dagmar> I took one of those last night, but now I"m out of them 19:07 <@Dagmar> I'm going to try to get Opheria to take me down to Walgreens to restock 19:07 <@Corydon76-home> Just ask her to pick you up a bottle 19:07 <@Dagmar> I've been taking waltussin CF pretty much the last three days 19:07 <@Corydon76-home> That, plus an OTC painkiller 19:08 <@Dagmar> I am just never, ever sick for this long 19:08 <@Corydon76-home> Did you get your flu shot this past season? 19:08 <@Dagmar> There's another thing I never bother doing 19:08 <@Dagmar> All the major flus have eaten me up like shortbread when Iw as getting the shots 19:08 <@Corydon76-home> I was sick for a day after it 19:09 <@Corydon76-home> mildly 19:09 <@Corydon76-home> There's something to be said for prodding your immune system with a stick that you know it can defeat every so often 19:10 <@Corydon76-home> Kind of like why we put soldiers through war games exercises 19:10 <@polerin> Dagmar: you still bumming around in minecraft? 19:10 <@Dagmar> Not in the last couple days... Too sick 19:10 <@Dagmar> Plus I'm waiting for an update 19:11 <@Dagmar> THere should be one tomorrow which will *possibly* fix a few bugs that have really been pissing me off 19:11 <@Corydon76-home> Boss's kid was messing around with something called "GMod", I think 19:11 <@Dagmar> You sure it wasn't hMod? 19:11 <@Corydon76-home> Yep 19:12 <@Dagmar> That would be the Garry's Mod machinima kit as far as I know 19:12 <@Corydon76-home> He was trying to build a roller coaster while repeatedly getting shot 19:12 <@Corydon76-home> That's it 19:12 <@Dagmar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_22v4eHMRQ 19:12 <@Corydon76-home> "Dad, why are they shooting me?" 19:14 <@Corydon76-home> It would have been amusing, had it not been so cruel to keep shooting a pre-pubescent kid 19:16 <@Dagmar> At the moment the outstanding bugs that are driving me nuts in involve terrain generation resulting in 32x32 chunks of terrrain that are partially flipped on their x & y axes... 19:16 <@Dagmar> ...monsters can hit players from farhter away than they should, and player hit radius is for some insane reason reduced. That makes *all* combat a very serious losing matter 19:30 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-home: flu shots are russian roulette; this is the first year in the past few that they properly predicted the strains that would be seen here. Last year and the previous year were busts and the shots proven quite ineffective across the board. I've *never* had a flu shot, never plan on it (even with my weakened respiratory system) and I've have "the flu" twice in the past 10+ years. 19:31 <@Bahhumbug> Speaking solely for myself, things have worked out for me fine. YMMV. 19:32 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, wife works in a local elementary school and is exposed to everything known to mankind. She gets the shot every year without fail and gets the flu every year without fail as well :( 19:32 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: Generally, I find the flu shots are reverse-odds Russian roulette. The medical industry is generally correct, though there are some mishaps every year 19:32 <@Corydon76-home> And I doubt it's the flu your wife is getting, but rather a nasty strain of the common cold, which the flu shot does not protect against 19:33 <@Bahhumbug> if by "generally correct" you mean "wrong for the past 2 years running" then yes, I agree :) 19:33 <@Corydon76-home> At any one time, there are approximately 600 strains of common cold viruses 19:33 <@Bahhumbug> You are free to doubt as you would like. Her doctor doesn't, however agree. Nor do all the other staff / kids / parents that had the exact same symptoms who, for those that went to see a doctor, had the same diagnosis. 19:34 <@Bahhumbug> As I said, YMMV. 19:34 <@Corydon76-home> The past two years, it wasn't about being correct; it was that one of the manufacturers screwed up and the flu shot was extremely limited when it was needed 19:35 < pie_> http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lefsxcQzPx1qf8yek.gif 19:35 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: Another problem is with the people who do not get immunized: their bodies wind up being laboratories for the virus to mutate beyond the protection that the flu shot protected against, thus endangering more people 19:35 <@Bahhumbug> Uh, school, second priority. Jen has no issues getting the shot no matter general availability. The point is, however, that the strains that they predicted would be prevalent weren't. And the shot is only effective for one or two strains. If they mis-guess it's just a waste of time. 19:36 <@Bahhumbug> There may well be truth to that, yes. 19:36 <@Bahhumbug> But *shrug*. No shots, no flu. YMMV. 19:36 <@Corydon76-home> It's like the problem with SUVs and safety. If everybody drove a small car on the road, everybody would be safer. But as soon as there are SUVs on the road, they become safer for those within 19:36 <@Bahhumbug> Except that SUV have never been "safe". 19:37 <@Bahhumbug> s/SUV/SUVs/ 19:37 <@Bahhumbug> In recent years they've improved, but they're still not considered "safe" vehicles to drive. 19:37 <@Corydon76-home> The issue is basic physics: Larger mass dissipates energy in a crash over a wider volume 19:38 <@Corydon76-home> So in a crash between an SUV and a small car, those in the SUV will usually end up with lesser injuries 19:38 <@Bahhumbug> Except when the basic design is flawed from inception through production. SUVs have completely for-shit lateral stability. They crunch quite nicely. 19:38 <@Corydon76-home> (all other things being equal, of course. If the people in the SUV are not wearing seatbelts, because they feel "safe", all bets are off) 19:38 <@Bahhumbug> Depends on the crash and the vectors involved. 19:39 <@Bahhumbug> head on I'd say it's mostly a crapshot. SUV getting broadsided? My money is on the smaller vehicle. 19:39 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, of course. 19:39 <@Bahhumbug> Seatbelts and such are always assumed to be properly worn (and serviced).. 19:40 <@Bahhumbug> And airbags being in proper working order. 19:40 <@Corydon76-home> Except when they aren't and the fire department gets to wash fresh brains off the macadam 19:40 <@Corydon76-home> My ex- was a firefighter and got to do that on more than one occasion 19:44 <@Corydon76-home> Anyway, I'm an advocate of getting any immunizations which are available for diseases you're likely to run across. (No, I am not immunized against malaria.) 19:44 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, been there. Used to do ride-alongs both here and in Chicago; been on any number of fatality scenes. No matter what the cause, the results always suck. 19:44 <@Corydon76-home> Okay, gotta go start dinner 19:45 <@Bahhumbug> Your choice, of course. And as I've said since the beginning, my results are not your results (YMMV). But I will choose to avoid unnecessary medicines / innoculations. 19:45 <@Bahhumbug> See ya :) 19:45 <@Bahhumbug> (now watch I get the grand-daddy of the flu this year and get knocked on my ass for 2 or 3 weeks) 19:52 < cerkit> so, wtf, is everyone still alive out there? 19:52 <@Corydon76-home> Of course 19:52 < cerkit> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jan/04/apocalypse-mystery-bird-deaths-louisiana 19:53 < cerkit> Wasn't sure if they apparent death cloud got you. 19:53 < cerkit> the* 19:53 < cerkit> Whatever the hell that's about. 19:54 < cerkit> Bee's then bat's, now it's the birds and fish. 19:55 < cerkit> We lost a huge segment of the bat population here, over night. 19:55 < cerkit> Couple months ago. 19:55 <@Corydon76-home> Remember, we did have a massive oil slick down here, and the effects of that take a while to propagate through the ecosystem 19:55 < cerkit> I guess that's a possiblity. 19:56 < cerkit> That's some serious ish tho. 19:56 < cerkit> http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/04/fungus_kills_90_percent_of_nj.html 19:56 < cerkit> that was in April, 90% of our bat population died. 19:57 < cerkit> Weird stuff, man. 19:57 <@Corydon76-home> Did you have a particularly bad mosquito season this summer? 19:57 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 19:58 < cerkit> Not mosquitos, surprisingly. 19:58 < cerkit> But I'm sure you saw there were bug problems in the tri-state no? 19:58 <@Corydon76-home> That, in itself, is weird 19:58 < cerkit> Well, I'm not sure we get a particularly large swarm of mosq. where I am specifically. 19:59 <@Corydon76-home> With 90% of the bats gone, I'd expect you to have horrible mosquito issues 19:59 < cerkit> Its possible it was horrible, and I jus had no awareness. 19:59 <@Corydon76-home> Ours were bad this summer, mainly due to water getting where it had not gotten in 100 years 20:00 <@Corydon76-home> May and June sucked 20:00 < cerkit> We had a strange summer, I would say overall more mild, though, there were suddenly these record breaking days. 20:00 < cerkit> I'm not sure it was good breeding for mosquitos 20:00 <@Corydon76-home> All they need is warm stagnant water 20:00 < cerkit> I'm by the ocean. 20:01 < cerkit> Not much fresh water near by. 20:01 < cerkit> Heh. 20:01 <@Corydon76-home> Think birdbaths 20:01 <@Corydon76-home> Tires... 20:01 < cerkit> No, I know. 20:01 < cerkit> It was't bad though. 20:01 <@Corydon76-home> The town I grew up in in eastern PA was built on a swamp 20:02 <@Corydon76-home> I'm rather familiar with them 20:02 < cerkit> Winters on the other hand. 20:02 < cerkit> The last 2 have been somewhat hardcore, heh. 20:02 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, 3 feet of snow sucks 20:02 < cerkit> Last year, it snowed so much, so fast... 20:03 < cerkit> I had to climb and shovel the room, because it covered the long necked pipe our furnace breathes through 20:03 < cerkit> roof* 20:03 <@Corydon76-home> ouch 20:03 < cerkit> Five foot tall airway 20:03 < cerkit> covered 20:03 < cerkit> 9:30 at the night the heat clicks off 20:03 < cerkit> I'm like... WTF? 20:03 < cerkit> Then... again at 12:30 20:03 < cerkit> THAT, was a storm, boy. 20:04 < cerkit> shoveled the roof twice. 20:04 <@Corydon76-home> Hmmm, I dunno if I'd prefer that to losing my backyard to a flood or not 20:04 < cerkit> Just a combination of the direction of the wind, the angel of the room to it, and the fact that it wss coming down some record breaking rate... 20:04 < cerkit> like, 3.5 inches an hour or something 20:05 <@Corydon76-home> My backyard was literally underwater for 2 days in May 20:05 < cerkit> I'd probably take the snow. 20:05 < cerkit> I'd be skeezed out by long term standing wster. 20:06 < cerkit> we just got 22 inches last week 20:06 < cerkit> like it was nuttin 20:06 <@Corydon76-home> This wasn't standing water. It was quickly flowing. The debris in the water collected and flattened my fences 20:06 < cerkit> oh... wow. 20:06 < cerkit> wht the hell do you do, just sit there and watch it? 20:06 < cerkit> i mean at that level of natural disaster I'm towel-throwin 20:07 <@Corydon76-home> We watched the new car in the neighbor's backyard flood and spin 20:07 < cerkit> I was in TN when it got hit by those tornados... 20:07 < cerkit> That's my closest scrape with any of that kind of stuff. 20:07 <@Corydon76-home> They nearly lost a Ford Mustang 20:07 <@Corydon76-home> but the car it got was gone 20:08 <@Corydon76-home> By gone, I mean totalled 20:08 < cerkit> That must suck. 20:08 < cerkit> How often does that happen? 20:08 < cerkit> 5-10 years? 20:08 <@Corydon76-home> They called it a 1,000 year flood 20:08 < cerkit> Nice. 20:08 < cerkit> They called the blizzard last year "Snowmageddon" 20:08 <@Corydon76-home> Each day was a 500-year flood, but together... 20:08 < cerkit> The whole tri-state was closed down. 20:09 <@Corydon76-home> The great Nashville flood of 2010 20:09 < cerkit> Yeah, that kind of stuff is scary. 20:09 < cerkit> Snow, we just sit inside, eat and play video games. 20:09 < cerkit> You really don't worry too much. 20:09 <@Corydon76-home> I only lost my backyard and fences. Some people downriver who weren't even in the 100-year floodplain lost everything, including their house 20:10 <@Corydon76-home> You need to worry about whether the amount of snow could collapse the roof 20:10 < cerkit> I guess... 20:10 < cerkit> But, there would be plenty of warning. 20:10 < cerkit> A lot of other shit would collapse first. 20:11 < cerkit> Carports... windshields... trees would give 20:11 <@Bahhumbug> generally roofs before trees. 20:11 < cerkit> I don't know, you'd have to come here and see. 20:11 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, trees bend... Roofs do not 20:11 < cerkit> The ground is a lot of sand. 20:11 < cerkit> They're very loosely rooted 20:11 <@Bahhumbug> trees have no way of supporting enough mass to cause catastrophic results. 20:11 <@Bahhumbug> hmm, sandy soil might play a part I 'spose. 20:11 <@Corydon76-home> I have seen trees snap, but that was due to ice, not snow 20:12 < cerkit> We lose trees in 60 mph summer thunderstorms 20:12 * Bahhumbug nods 20:12 < cerkit> A lot! 20:12 < cerkit> hahaha 20:12 <@Corydon76-home> It's impressive to see 4 inches of ice around a limb 20:12 < cerkit> Its just very sandy. 20:12 <@Bahhumbug> in chicago in '79 I made something like $1700 shoveling roofs during the second largest snowfall in Chicago history. 20:12 < cerkit> The roots have barely anything to hold on to. 20:12 <@Bahhumbug> cerkit: where you at? 20:12 < cerkit> New Jersey 20:12 < cerkit> By the shore 20:13 <@Bahhumbug> Ahh, ok. that 'splains it. 20:13 <@Corydon76-home> That depends upon how far down is solid rock 20:13 < cerkit> Rock is WAY WAY down. 20:13 < cerkit> It's all cly 20:13 < cerkit> clay* 20:13 <@Corydon76-home> Generally, trees have as much mass below ground as above 20:13 <@Bahhumbug> and yeah, 4 inches of ice on a limb is damned impressive. especially if it's not snapping like a twig. 20:13 < cerkit> You get through a couple feet of sand, you got some very very loose soil...and CLAY 20:13 < cerkit> like you wouldn't believe 20:14 < cerkit> So, the tree's have these viney, long, finger roots 20:14 <@Corydon76-home> I know clay, but usually it's somewhat rocky 20:14 < cerkit> And long heavy branches over time 20:14 < cerkit> No rocks 20:14 < cerkit> This is like pottery clay 20:14 < cerkit> We get a good storm 20:14 <@Corydon76-home> Usually it's the deciduous trees that snap. The evergreens fare much better 20:14 < cerkit> And they jus come up, and tip over 20:15 < cerkit> The flush of the water loosens the soil that much more 20:15 < cerkit> combined with the wind... 20:15 < cerkit> and bewm! 20:15 < cerkit> So, here, it's usully tree's before the roof. 20:15 < cerkit> And its carports abound. 20:16 < cerkit> You'd hear those things dropping like flys. 20:16 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, with carports, though, it's usually the canvas ripping, isn't it? 20:16 < cerkit> They're jus a little bit aluminum on steel supports 20:16 < cerkit> like think... siding 20:16 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, aluminum 20:16 < cerkit> on some poles 20:16 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, that explains it 20:16 < cerkit> Well, it's NJ 20:16 < cerkit> hahaha 20:17 < cerkit> So, if something like snow killing the roof was due 20:17 <@Corydon76-home> I'm used to the old fashioned ones built of steel. Heavy as hell, but sturdy 20:17 < cerkit> Ten minutes before... 20:17 < cerkit> There would be holy hell all around you 20:17 < cerkit> All the cheap shore shit... 20:17 < cerkit> would be imploding 20:17 <@Corydon76-home> btw, this is also why houses in the mountains have much steeper roofs... keeps the snow off 20:17 < cerkit> Yeah, we had a bad angle to the wind last year boy. 20:18 < cerkit> It drifted all over the tops of the houses. 20:18 < cerkit> This year, not so much. 20:18 < cerkit> And it fell ALOT slower. 20:18 <@Corydon76-home> Wish we had traditional overhangs on our porches, like in the North 20:18 < cerkit> Last year was 36" 20:18 < cerkit> This year 22" 20:18 <@Corydon76-home> Allows you to open your door, even with 3 feet of snow 20:19 < cerkit> Man, people were gettying knocked cold, coming out of their houses. 20:19 < cerkit> They'd shut the door, bewm shut, and get avalanched. 20:19 <@Corydon76-home> lol 20:19 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, idiots 20:19 < cerkit> I taped it. 20:19 < cerkit> I have like 40 gigs of it in HD. 20:19 <@Corydon76-home> Time to fix your door so you don't have to slam it to get it to latch 20:19 < cerkit> It was an amazing night. 20:20 < cerkit> The way the snow fell was just beyond anything I had ever even imagined. 20:20 < cerkit> It was like, there was nothing else. It jus poured down. 20:20 < cerkit> These giants flakes too. 20:21 < cerkit> Visibility was like, from the front door, to the steps. 20:21 < cerkit> Like, 6 feet. 20:22 < cerkit> Now, if all that was water. 20:22 < cerkit> We'd be in the mess you were. 20:22 < cerkit> Think about how much liquid water it takes to accumulate 36" inches of snow, haha. 20:23 < cerkit> Well, hopefully, it'll be another 1,000 years for ya, man. 20:24 < cerkit> We get this every 5. 20:24 < cerkit> 5 off, 3 on. 20:25 < cerkit> So, what the hell do you do, boat places when that happens? 20:26 < eryc> ya and complain on facebook 20:34 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:45 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 20:48 -!- hobbes615 [~ryan@unaffiliated/hobbes615] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:57 < cerkit> Status: taking the 15 footer to my GFs 20:57 < cerkit> ? 21:08 < cerkit> goddamn 21:09 < cerkit> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40885546/ns/us_news-environment/ 21:10 < pie_> dont derp n drive cos u probably gonna swerve. 21:11 <@Bahhumbug> news reports from earlier this afternoon (no citation at the moment) reported that they believe that this was a flock that was scared from roost to take flight due to fireworks and got bitch-smacked by higher-altitude hail. Reports were that there was evidence of impact that could not be correlated with ground impact. 21:12 < cerkit> Imagine then the odds... 21:12 < cerkit> Of them dying that way, and the fish dying at the same time. 21:12 < cerkit> Crazy. 21:12 <@Bahhumbug> Fish was louisana, wasn't it? 21:12 < cerkit> No. 21:12 <@Bahhumbug> or was that arkansas as well? 21:12 < cerkit> Fish, 80,000 - Birds 5000 Arkansas 21:13 < cerkit> Then about 1,000 today 21:13 < cerkit> in Lousinana 21:13 < cerkit> Since Sunday, basically. 21:13 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, there was another episode of birds dropping out of the sky today? I had not heard about that one. 21:13 <@Bahhumbug> it's the end of times. 21:14 < cerkit> That would be too simple. 21:14 <@Bahhumbug> birds falling dead from the sky is, I believe, one of the signs of the Apocalypse. 21:14 < cerkit> Plus, if there was an apocolypse, it would mean there was an all merciful god, and all that bible nonsense was true. 21:14 < cerkit> So, we'd be chillin. 21:14 < cerkit> Rapture... then... drinks 21:15 <@Bahhumbug> it just means that the alien overlords are on their way back to pick up the whales. 21:15 <@Bahhumbug> afk for a while 21:39 -!- Neoteric [~timball@pool-74-96-38-204.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 21:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 22:22 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:38 <@sdodson> cerkit: hi! how are you today? 22:39 -!- pie_ [~rawr@74-128-172-15.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:40 <@sdodson> There's a nutjob family that moved into town here and they're driving around in a van saying the end is near. 22:40 <@sdodson> For some reason they choose to come here. 23:01 -!- sync [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:15 <@Corydon76-home> sdodson: Of course the end is near. They're driving in an unsafe vehicle which is distracting to the other drivers. They'll find their end soon enough 23:15 <@Corydon76-home> People who think they're about to die usually find a way to make that happen. 23:16 <@Dagmar> Wind 'em up some more 23:16 <@Dagmar> Tell them God came and got all the Christians and they missed it 23:16 <@Corydon76-home> Heh 23:18 <@Corydon76-home> Ask them whether the fags and whores can go to heaven, then when they answer, lower your voice and say, "I'm disappointed. You failed the test." Then talk in a normal voice and ask them how you got there. 23:22 <@Dagmar> hehehehe 23:53 -!- Neoteric [~timball@pool-74-96-38-204.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Jan 05 00:00:19 2011