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03:01 <@Evilpig> stupid firewall kernel panic'd at midnight it seems
--- Log opened Wed Nov 10 03:48:51 2010
03:48 <@Gerdesas> http://i.imgur.com/cPCT5.jpg
03:49 <@Evilpig> lol
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09:02 < NotLarry_> Dagmar_: you on?
09:03 < NotLarry_> 9:06 and I'm just about drunk
09:03 < NotLarry_> These fucking hours will kill me
09:04 < NotLarry_> or Dagmar_
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09:14 <@polerin> wtf roommate wtf
09:14 <@polerin> I can understand listening in on a call between lissa and I, it's hard to avoid when you're in the same room
09:14 <@polerin> but wtf, why would you butt INTO that call
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09:18 < NotLarry_> you fuckers, I'll kill every one of you!
09:18 < NotLarry_> oh snap, wrong window
09:25 <@CRasH180> That would have been very interesting to watch you try with this group
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09:34 <@Evilpig> NotLarry_: did you see my message about the its-alert last night?
09:38 < NotLarry_> negatory
09:42 < NotLarry_> I threw RN under the bus my last shift when I got a "who did this?" question.
09:44 < NotLarry_> sorry, but I don't know the man, just the work I see he does.
09:46 < NotLarry_> ok, time to pass out.
09:46 < todd> gaaaaaaah bastards
09:47 < todd> my desk phone won't stop playing music through the speakerphone
09:47 < todd> somebody is messing with me
09:47 < todd> damn iot
09:47 <@Evilpig> wait wha?  what was that on?
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09:57 < todd> stupid phone..
09:57 < todd> has a "background music" option
09:57 < todd> who the hell would use that?
09:57 < todd> and who turned it on on my phone?
09:57 < todd> *grumnle*
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10:20 < operat0r> who has a checkpoint I can toss some packets at ?
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12:44 <@Dagmar_> COllege students today are such pansies
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12:45 <@Dagmar> CNN is all atwitter about this "Four Loko" drink that college students are drinking and passing out from
12:45 <@Dagmar> It says RIGHT ON THE DAMN THING: "Blackout in a can".
12:45 <@Dagmar> I fail to see a problem here.
13:02 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: There's only no problem if you also agree that pot and hard drugs should be decriminalized
13:02 <@Corydon76-home> If you think pot and cocaine are properly illegal, then I understand the concern about Four Loco.
13:03 <@Dagmar> It's just high-end beer with caffiene added.
13:03 <@Dagmar> I do not see how the other has anything to do with it.
13:03 <@Corydon76-home> Actually, I believe it's more like wine... a single bottle has reportedly the same amount of alcohol as a bottle of wine
13:03 <@Corydon76-home> It's a question of effect.  There is no doubt that it is a drug.
13:04 <@Dagmar> I think it's a matter of demonization
13:04 <@Dagmar> The only _new_ thing involved here is the brand namw
13:04 <@Corydon76-home> Additionally, the amount of caffeine in most energy drinks violates FDA rules, though the FDA has been lax on enforcement.
13:05 <@Dagmar> Mad Dog has been around forever, CNN isn' getting upset about it
13:05 <@Corydon76-home> Mad Dog has caffeine?
13:05 <@Dagmar> Hell, Walgreen's has started selling beer (including Mad Dog) and they're acutally about to stop carrying it at the one nearest my house because almost no one is buying it.
13:06 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: No, it's just yet another horrible "not quite beer" that's on the market
13:07 <@Corydon76-home> The effect of Four Loco is to neutralize the pass-out effect of alcohol when someone is drunk.  So you get someone who is stupid drunk but cannot pass out.
13:07 <@Corydon76-home> As a result, when they recover, they find out they've done some really stupid shit
13:08 <@Dagmar> Imagine that.  College freshmen getting drunk and doing something stupid.
13:08 <@Corydon76-home> (like breaking multiple bones in one hand because they punched a block of ice)
13:09 <@Corydon76-home> Yes.  As I said, it's no problem if you think hard drugs should be decriminalized (like libertarians).  It is a problem if you think that anything that might be harmful should be illegal (like most parents)
13:11 <@Corydon76-home> It's a basic difference in philosophy which informs your reaction.
13:17 <@Dagmar> False dichotomy.
13:17 <@Dagmar> I'm just sayin'.
13:20 < scribbles> Corydon76-home: bars regularly advertise red bull and vodka, a premixed version may not be fda-approved
13:20 < scribbles> are they in violation?
13:21 < scribbles> 1) Ban Four Loko 2) Keep energy drinks and alcohol for sale in the same buildings 3) ???
13:21 <@Dagmar> He hasn't updated yet
13:21 <@Dagmar> $#@$ wrong chan
13:22 <@Lissa> lol
13:22 <@Dagmar> scribbles: Strikes me as a little silly, personally
13:22 < scribbles> agreed.
13:22 <@Dagmar> The problem isn't even a synergistic reaction, it's just that people are being exceptionally stupid.
13:23 < scribbles> sensationalism sells
13:23 <@Dagmar> ...and not even _that_ exceptionally stupid.  The news just has a convenient brand name to point at for the oment.
13:23 <@Corydon76-home> scribbles: Technically, Red Bull, all by itself, is in violation
13:23 < scribbles> when it wasn't alcopops AGAIN this year, it was weed flavored lollipops
13:24 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: it's not a false dichotomy.
13:24 <@Lissa> kinda like the dude that took 2 tablespoons of powdered caffiene (equivalent to about 70 energy drinks) and died?  hrm.  User Error.
13:24 <@Corydon76-home> It is a basic difference in philosophy about whether you believe that substances that may be harmful should be prohibited or not.
13:24 < scribbles> Corydon76-home: just to be clear, you're just presenting an alternative (completely irrational), point of view for sake of argument, you don't believe this right
13:25 <@Sheath> soda is pretty harmful to a body, but its still legal
13:25 <@Corydon76-home> I'm not saying that I believe the products should be prohibited.  I'm saying that if you ignore that perspective, you will fail to convince people of the error of prohibiting the product
13:25 <@Dagmar> It's because they're dietary supplements, not "drinks"
13:26 <@Corydon76-home> You need to address that philosophy, that perspective, if you wish to succeed in convincing people that the product should be left alone.
13:26 <@Corydon76-home> Otherwise, you're just arguing for the sake of hearing your own voice.
13:26 < scribbles> we need to address religion and nosy assholes, but I digress
13:27 <@Corydon76-home> And btw, I do believe that some substances should be kept out of the marketplace, just not to the degree of some individuals
13:28 <@Corydon76-home> Clear and convincing proof of involuntary harm should be the standard
13:28 < scribbles> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130972513&ps=cprs
13:28 < scribbles> if alcohol is the benchmark, then we need to legalize everything ;)
13:29 <@Corydon76-home> Shit that causes cancer, not shit that makes you temporarily loopy
13:29 <@Dagmar> What about things that make you republican?
13:29 < scribbles> www.cosmeticsdatabase.com  look up your shampoo, soap, shaving cream, etc... likely all contain carcinogens unless you're using Dr Bronners
13:30 < scribbles> Dagmar: like climate change denial and gay escorts?
13:30 <@Corydon76-home> scribbles: I'm more concerned about products meant to be taken internally
13:30 <@Dagmar> Yep
13:30 < scribbles> Corydon76-home: warmed skin in a shower absorbs chemicals like crazy
13:30 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home: like penis?
13:30 < scribbles> internally is not a good benchmark either
13:31 <@Corydon76-home> Evilpig: Penis is a non-processed item
13:31 < scribbles> unless its groudn and formed penis
13:31 <@Evilpig> it can betaken internally
13:31 < scribbles> sure can
13:31 < scribbles> and if ti was a smoker it could cause cancer
13:31 < scribbles> ban penis.
13:32 <@Corydon76-home> scribbles: Yeah, I'm against processing penis like that
13:32 < scribbles> millions of prostitutes make their living processing penis, your views are economically damaging
13:33 <@Corydon76-home> They're not processing penis... they're merely cleaning it...
13:46  * opticron files it under maintaining
13:47 <@opticron> servicing?
13:47 <@CRasH180> services
13:47 <@CRasH180> human management services
13:50 <@Corydon76-home> Sexual maintenance?
13:51 <@Corydon76-home> I still think they're cleaning out the old sperm
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14:28 < scribbles> glad we were able to sort that out
14:35 <@Dagmar> it's like an oil change... Sure you *could* do it yourself, but it's less of a chore watching someone else do it.
14:38 < scribbles> and I like using the dealer's car
14:38 < scribbles> to drive around in
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15:39 < Shadow404> remastering the art of the tbone steak over a grill, making a note here, huge success
15:42 < Shadow404> w'tf is ware?
15:44 <@CRasH180> bbl
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15:45 < Shadow404> no
15:45 < Shadow404> damn
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15:55 < Shadow404> thats right bitch
15:55 < Shadow404> get ya ass back where you belong bitch
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15:56 <@ware> Last failed attempt from: Ware!~DevBox@82.114.88.11 on Nov 09 12:41:53 2010.
15:56 <@ware> lulz
15:56 <@ware> who dat
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15:56 <@Shadow404> ....
16:16 <@Shadow404> bahaha
16:16 <@Shadow404> just got this email
16:16 <@Shadow404> I saw your web page.  How high can your rockets go?
16:16 <@Shadow404> was the rocket launched off the California coast this week a home made rocket?
16:16 <@Shadow404> Launched off of a private yacht?
16:16 <@Shadow404> from
16:16 <@Shadow404> RobtheDiver
16:17 <@Shadow404> www.shadow404.com/125
16:17 <@ware> lol
16:24 <@ware> lhttp://www.shadow404.com/132.o/test_setup.JPG
16:24 <@ware> ftw
16:24 <@Shadow404> haha
16:24 <@Shadow404> mspaint ftw
16:25 <@Shadow404> can i plead i was slightly not myself during that picture editing?
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17:50 <@Dagmar> hehehe CNN FINALLY managed to dig up the video of the governator smoking a joint
17:50 <@Shadow404> i still hope he is able to legalize it
18:02 <@Dagmar> A-KO: If he were a _real_ man they'd have been clapping pull-ups
18:02 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: Prop 19 failed
18:02 <@Shadow404> this round maybe
18:02 <@Dagmar> maybe?
18:02 <@Shadow404> its not always gonna be illegal
18:02 <@Shadow404> only a matter of time is what im saying
18:02 <@Dagmar> Well, I guess it's possible Diebold rigged it, but I doubt they'd take the risk of being found out over that
18:03 <@Shadow404> hell, you can go down the street to the doc and get a medical pass
18:03 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah at the rate things are going the next attempt will pass
18:03 <@Dagmar> It's just about as legal as it needs to be there already
18:05  * Shadow404 moves to cali and complains about chronic back pain to this doc
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20:20 <@Dagmar> stopnethack
20:20 <@Dagmar> Whoa.  Surely...
20:20 <@Dagmar> HAS EVERYONE FINALLY FUCKING UPDATED?
20:20 <@Dagmar> Let's see
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20:22 <@Dagmar> *facepalm*
20:22 <@Dagmar> Damnit Mike
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20:34 <@brimstone> so... oddball still hasn't updated huh?
20:52 <@Dagmar> wiredd: Oh hell I hope it's not going to start spawning stuff without grass being present
20:52 <@Dagmar> Apparently not
20:52 <@Dagmar> Either that or Linksys has had another fucking regression
21:01 < todd> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1776526964899011193#docid=6443035544827856436
21:01 < todd> that fucking governator comment just cost me 30 minutes
21:01 < todd> gee thanks
21:01 < todd> back to work
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21:23 <@sdodson> http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs454.ash2/72748_734305319388_29700132_40579742_1326770_n.jpg
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22:08 <@ShadowHntr> hey i remember a text based dungeon game that some of the people were playing at the con
22:08 <@ShadowHntr> it's not nethack
22:08 <@ShadowHntr> anyone know what it is? i'd like to try it out
22:08 <@polerin> rogue?
22:08 <@ShadowHntr> maybe it was rogue
22:09 <@ShadowHntr> i've never played it so i wouldn't know
22:11 <@polerin> rogue was the precursor to nethack
22:12 <@ShadowHntr> i know
22:12 <@ShadowHntr> but i've never played rogue
22:12 <@ShadowHntr> i played all the infocom classics
22:12 <@ShadowHntr> i didn't get formally introduced to unix/linux until the mid 90s
22:12 <@ShadowHntr> with digital unix, irix and sunos
22:12 <@ShadowHntr> and then i was just drooling over the cool things people were demoing on them
22:24 <@sasquatc4> uggh jesus, blaming medical marijuana for an increase on kids bringing and selling drugs at school, saying they got it from their parents medical stash
22:24 <@sasquatc4> at least the cops are, surprisingly school officials arent
22:27 <@Dagmar> It's almost certainly Rogue or Nethack.  More than likely it was Nethack
22:27 <@Dagmar> After you've played Nethack, Rogue starts to feel a little bit thin on features
22:28 <@Dagmar> They *may* have been playing on one of the public NetHack servers like http://alt.org/nethack/
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23:06 <@Dagmar> http://www.dancecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?118-How-Do-I-DELETE-the-Picutres-Taken-During-Dance
23:06 <@Dagmar> *snicker*
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