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03:28 <@Dagmar> Because he's on a freaking consumer DSL ISP.
03:34 <@Evilpig> wrong channel Dagmar 
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06:58 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:24 < scribbles> polerin: interesting, thats the first i've heard of the apache situation
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08:01 < Todd> twitter: <shadowcat_mst> kmem russian roulette: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/kmem bs=1 count=1 seek=$RANDOM - whoever makes the system crash buys the first round.
08:01 < Todd> That made me smile on a Monday morning. :)
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09:08 <+VampirePenguin> ya that works
09:09 <+VampirePenguin> no more spending 20 mins to connect
09:09 <+VampirePenguin> lol
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11:31 <@aestetix> man
11:31 <@aestetix> how many people use IE anymore?
11:31 <@aestetix> I"m kind of blown away by how non standards compliant it is
11:32 <@benthemeek> We force our sheeple to use it here because so much can be controlled on the AD side of things
11:33 <@aestetix> Uh, you can totally extend most of that control with Firefox
11:33 <@aestetix> but yeah, that makes sense
11:33 <@aestetix> It's just.... such a piece of shit
11:34 <@benthemeek> totally aggree
11:35 <@aestetix> by which I mean, it's not CSS standards compliant. I have some stuff for our website that works beautifully in every browser BUT IE
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11:57 <@Evilpig> aestetix: people using IE is what forces me to test IE and scream everytime something doesn't line up
12:26 < scribbles> do you think ballmer selling 1.3bn ms shares is a sign of confidence?
12:28 <@eryc> mozilla should make an activex control
12:28 <@eryc> that then loads the page in an embedded firefox
12:29 <@Evilpig> there was an activex control for firefox.  but it was crazy buggy just like IE
12:29 <@Evilpig> and there is a way to load chrome inside of IE as a plugin to render pages that way.  also buggy as shit
12:30 <+fall0ut> isn't that what the google plugin for something is
12:30 <+fall0ut> just chrome that runs in IE?
12:31  * Mercster decides to try listening to 'trout mask replica' again
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12:59 < scribbles> mercster, I'm still trying to find out why that labum is so fussed about
13:00 < Mercster> scribbles: yeah it's kinda incomprehensible. it might be easier to understand if you keep telling yourself that it was released in 1969
13:00 < Mercster> im listening through it now
13:00 < scribbles> incomprehensible...maybe thats why the psychedelic scene likes it so much
13:00 < Mercster> parts of it impress me, but more parts make me think "wtf?"
13:01 < scribbles> haven't attempted a listen in years
13:01 < Mercster> but i guess the tiny bits of brilliance have eclipsed the inaccessibility in the people's minds
13:01 < scribbles> I usually can't make it very far into the album without losing interest
13:01 < Mercster> yeah its tough
13:01 < Mercster> im doing my best
13:02 < Mercster> ive told myself im gonna listen to it 3 times total before i dismiss it
13:02 < scribbles> maybe we're just not eating enough mushrooms for this to have an effect
13:02 < scribbles> i have a feeling that may be the secret
13:02 < Mercster> im well aware that some music creeps up on you
13:02 < Mercster> heh
13:02 < Mercster> could be
13:03 < Mercster> the music is sort of impressing me, beefheart's singing doesnt so much
13:03 < Mercster> but beefheart had a dictatorial role over the music too, so, you gotta take that into account
13:03 < Mercster> im trying to be open minded
13:04 < Mercster> to be fair, i do hear a lot of the 70s blues rock that i so dearly love, in many of these tracks
13:04 < Mercster> if not in their execution, their intent
13:06 < Mercster> scribbles: matt groening on trout mask replica http://www.beefheart.com/datharp/groening.htm
13:07 < Mercster> The first time I heard Trout Mask, when I was 15 years old, I thought it was the worst thing I'd ever heard. I said to myself, they're not even trying! It was just a sloppy cacophony.
13:07 < Mercster> Then I listened to it a couple more times, because I couldn't believe Frank Zappa could do this to me - and because a double album cost a lot of money. About the third time, I realised they were doing it on purpose: they meant it to sound exactly this way. About the sixth or seventh time, it clicked in, and I thought it was the greatest album I'd ever heard.
13:08 < Mercster> i can hear the genius, its still hard to listen to
13:09 < Mercster> frank zappa, on the other hand, usually made brilliance easy to listen to
13:09 < Mercster> (if you of course ignore some of the sillier lyrics, werent really frank zappa's focus)
13:10 < scribbles> interesting
13:10 < scribbles> I always found zappa's lack of drug use rather incredible
13:11 < Mercster> well you know zappa produced trout mask replica
13:11 < scribbles> i didn't know that
13:11 < Mercster> and released it on his own label
13:11 < Mercster> they continued to collaborate and compete
13:12 < Mercster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Beefheart#Relationship_with_Frank_Zappa
13:12 < Mercster> cool pic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Frank_Zappa_-_Capt._Beefheart.jpg
13:13 < scribbles> heh I was just on that page
13:14 < Mercster> so essentially im trying to find the magic that zappa, and later music critics, found in trout mask replica
13:14 < scribbles> have to take my ACMT exams today, bleh
13:14 < scribbles> Mercster: you've inspired me to try again
13:14 < Mercster> yeah, might as well
13:14 < Mercster> im actually having an easier time than last time i heard TMR
13:15 < Mercster> i see glimpses of brilliance
13:15 < Mercster> but as i said, still hard to listen to
13:15 < Mercster> it's like saying "here's rock and roll!" and playing a Yes album
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13:16 < scribbles> heh
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13:16 < scribbles> I don't know that i can name a Yes song
13:16 < scribbles> I'm sure i'd know one if I heard it
13:16 < Mercster> i love Yes, but you've gotta understand the ouvre they were playing with
13:16 < Mercster> scribbles: oh, come on
13:17 < Mercster> scribbles: remember that 80s MTV hit, "Owner of a Lonely Heart"
13:18 < Mercster> course that version of Yes is far removed from their 70s offerings
13:18 < Mercster> im just mentioning one you may know
13:18 < Mercster> probably their biggest chart hit
13:18 < scribbles> of course i do ;)
13:18 < Mercster> well that's Yes
13:19 < scribbles> thats not exactly winning me over ;/
13:19 < Mercster> so you can name at least one ;-)
13:19 < Mercster> heh
13:19 <@rattle> This is turning out to be a good year for speaking engagements.
13:19 < Mercster> well their 70s stuff was great
13:19 < scribbles> for who rattle
13:19 <@rattle> I just got added to the roster at Hacker Halted in Cairo
13:19 < scribbles> congrats!
13:33 < Mercster> hm
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13:33 < Mercster> some of this is starting to remind me of the greatful dead
13:34 < Mercster> which is strange
13:36 < Mercster> maybe its the blues-driven songs without any guitar distortion
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13:51 <+VampirePenguin> http://revision3.com/hak5
13:51 <+VampirePenguin> fun site
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13:57 < scribbles> nice, I saw them on twitter but had yet to check uot the site
13:59 <+VampirePenguin> i am watching a ipv6 epi
13:59 <+VampirePenguin> interesting already
14:01 < scribbles> its 3 already damn
14:01 <+VampirePenguin> sixxs.net has offered me my own subnets
14:01 < scribbles> why
14:01 < Mercster> time for maury
14:01 < Mercster> "you are NOT the father!"
14:01 <+VampirePenguin> bc they can
14:02 <+VampirePenguin> i havent jumped on it
14:02 < scribbles> are they in the business of giving away subnets?
14:02 <+VampirePenguin> theyre giving away ips
14:02 <+VampirePenguin> i have a huge range for ips
14:02 <+VampirePenguin>   /64
14:04 <+VampirePenguin> they have some kind of point system
14:07 < Mercster> k
14:19 < Mercster> the results are in
14:19 < scribbles> has maury just gone to fulltime dna testing
14:19 < Mercster> pretty much
14:19 < Mercster> its still hilarious
14:20 < scribbles> speaking of such folks
14:20 < Mercster> i like it when the DNA test says he's not the father, and the girl runs off the stage crying
14:20 < Mercster> cuz i like to see girls cry
14:20 < scribbles> if anyone gets a chance, watch The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia
14:21 < Mercster> when that happens i repeatedly scream "WHORE!" at my tv
14:21 < Mercster> unfortunately, usually the dude is the father
14:21 < Mercster> but i still watch, hoping for a different result
14:23 < Mercster> once in awhile it works out
14:23 < scribbles> are you unemployed?
14:23 < Mercster> im retired
14:24 < scribbles> I hope my retirement is as awesome as yours.
14:24 < Mercster> indeed
14:28 < Mercster> HAH!
14:28 < Mercster> NOT THE FATHER!
14:28  * Mercster claps
14:29 < Mercster> beautiful
14:30  * Mercster screams "YOU'RE A WHORE!" at his tv
14:38 < Mercster> haaaaaaaaaa! twice in one episode!
14:38 < Mercster> yuo are NOT the father!
14:38 < Mercster> i love it
14:43 < Mercster> seems most whores have a tongue piercings
14:43 < Mercster> i dunno if that's a scientific correlation
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15:08 <@Dagmar> http://technology.todaysbigthing.com/2010/11/04
15:08 <@Dagmar> That makes me feel MUCH better about Nashville weather
15:09 <@Dagmar> ...because I've never seen it do that, nor would I want it to.
15:10 < Mercster> OH, baby, give me one more chance...
15:19 < oddball> Yay for AT&T's auto-attendant being broken and not recognizing me pressing 1
15:23 <@Corydon76-lap> oddball: are you using a cellphone?
15:24 < oddball> nope
15:24 <@Corydon76-lap> oddball: that's very odd, then
15:24 <@Corydon76-lap> Cellphones are noted for their non-compliant DTMF tones
15:24 < oddball> turned out that that connection just decided "fuck it, no input from you."
15:24 <@Corydon76-lap> unless the line was not in state 'answered'
15:24 < oddball> called back and things worked
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19:33  * cerkit yawns
19:33 < cerkit> hi.
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20:17 < cerkit> boy... it's a lot more idle in here then i remember.
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20:55 <@eryc> cerkit: sup
20:57 < cerkit> oh
20:57 < cerkit> hey
21:17 <@sdodson> cerkit: hey bro
21:24 < cerkit> hi
21:24 < cerkit> wsup?
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