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00:16 < Mercster> Wired magazine believes Monopoly is a poorly designed game. Former Wall Streeter Derk Solko explains, "Monopoly has you grinding your opponents into dust. It's a very negative experience. It's all about cackling when your opponent lands on your space and you get to take all their money." Most of the 3 to 4 hour average playing time is spent waiting for other players to play their turn. Board game enthusiasts disparagingly call this a "roll your dice, mov
00:16 < Mercster> i love monopoly
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06:52 < Mercster> lol http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11644328
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08:46 <@ware> morning
08:47 <@benthemeek> morning
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09:05 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
09:12 < polerin> blerrrh
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10:21 < Mercster> you darned son of a gun
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13:37 <@Dagmar> Oh holy crap
13:37 <@Dagmar> http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20021291-71.html
13:37 <@Dagmar> Haynes is printing a manual for Enterprise-class starships
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13:49 <@Gerdesas_> Not a truly new idea: STARTREK The Next Generation Technical Manual, Rick Sternback and Michael Okuda, first printing November 1991, ISBN: 0-671-70427-3, Simon & Schuster / Pocket Books
13:49 <@Gerdesas_> If you're into 'trek it's a nice manual to have around.
13:49 <@Dolemite> Nor was that, I had Star Trek blueprints back in the early 1980s
13:50 <@ware> TREK DE NECK
13:50 <@Corydon76-lap> It's nice fantasy, but I'd like to see somebody come up with a similar method of propulsion
13:50 <@Dolemite> But I would never own the blueprints to the ship from that pansy ass Next Generation crap.
13:50 <@ware> hahaha
13:51 <@Dolemite> ware : Wazzup, homey?  I see you're going to officially leave Cookevegas?
13:51 <@ware> chyeah!
13:51 <@ware> finally
13:51 <@ware> gettin a new hackerpad going this month
13:51 <@Dolemite> Whereabouts?  Close to the main squeeze?
13:51 <@ware> new furniture / bed / tv / dishes / ETC
13:51 <@ware> yeah stewartsferry.com
13:52 <@ware> ~5 miles from work
13:52 <@Dolemite> close proximity to work is nice for those woke-up-late mornings
13:52 <@ware> i hate commuting
13:52 <@Dolemite> me, too
13:53 <@Dolemite> part of why I left VU - there's no way to find a back road in when you're going to the center of traffic
13:53 <@Corydon76-lap> Dolemite: so, what are your plans now that Oak Ridge now has a second-rate supercomputer?
13:53 <@ware> yuh
13:53 <@ware> lol cd
13:53 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-lap : I can't discuss such things with uncleared individuals.
13:54 <@Dolemite> I could, but I'd have to let someone shoot you.
13:54 <@Corydon76-lap> Dolemite: I meant, are you applying to work in China?
13:54 <@Dolemite> hahahaha, no
13:54 <@Dolemite> By the time I moved there, ORNL would be back at #1.
13:55 <@Corydon76-lap> It is rather interesting that they came up with a technology better than Infiniband
13:55 <@Corydon76-lap> Well, one that scales and is better than Infiniband
13:56 <@Dolemite> Well if you look at the theoretical v. actual throughput on Tianhe-1A, it still sucks (percentage) compared to the others in the Top500
13:56 <@Dolemite> that's been the problem with China's other one, Nebulae...  it's been at #2 for a long time because they can't get more than 50% throughput
13:56 <@Dolemite> So they're just throwing more CPU at the problem
13:59 < scribbles> Dolemite: you work with supercomputers or just an interest?
14:00 <@Corydon76-lap> scribbles: he works at the top (before Friday) supercomputing facility in the world
14:00 <@Dolemite> scribbles : I'm the computer facility manager @ ORNL
14:01 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-lap : We still have 4 of the top 10 in one room.  I think that qualifies it as continuing to be the top FACILITY in the world, just not housing the Top system ;)
14:01 < scribbles> oh, excellent. sounds like a good time.
14:01 <@Dolemite> Of course, there's one thing that keeps getting left off from those statements...   'unclassified'
14:02 <@Dolemite> the smoke & mirror ones don't participate in the rankings
14:02 <@Corydon76-lap> I wouldn't be surprised if the smoke
14:02 <@Corydon76-lap> & mirror agencies are still using ORNL, though
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14:03 <@Dolemite> They're not using Jaguar-PF
14:03 <@Dolemite> I'm not over the smoke & mirror facility - that's the other computer facility manager here
14:04 <@Corydon76-lap> Would you necessarily know if they were?  Or would the name of the task sound considerably boring?
14:04 <@Dolemite> Security doesn't work that way.  For the smoke & mirror stuff to happen, it has to operate within an approved enclave.
14:05 <@Dolemite> there's a whole other data center here for DOD, which I haven't even been in because I don't have clearance yet
14:05 <@Corydon76-lap> Well, like the secure links that aren't on any map, but when a backhoe eats one, you'll know within 10 minutes.
14:06 <@Dolemite> They don't run on Jaguar
14:06 <@opticron> i like what happened at UAH
14:06 <@opticron> someone was drilling a big hole with one of those backhoe drills
14:06 <@opticron> they didn't check before starting to drill
14:06 <@Dolemite> Call before you dig!
14:07 <@opticron> ended up with a few hundred feet of fiber wrapped around it
14:07 <@Corydon76-lap> Calling before digging doesn't help when the line isn't on any map
14:07 <@Corydon76-lap> any unclassified map, that is
14:08 <@Corydon76-lap> One of my sisters had a similar situation.  Drilled to 50 feet; a sewer line that wasn't on any map was at 10 feet.  Pulled out the drill bit, then "do you smell something?"
14:09 <@Corydon76-lap> The city ended up thanking them for finding their sewer line for them
14:10 <@Corydon76-lap> 50 years without any maintenance
14:10 <@oddball> Hell, Hartley had that happen while he was working on one of TDOT's survey teams in Murfressboro.
14:11 <@oddball> The entire team thought they were in deep shit and were about to get fired, but the city had no idea where the sewer ran in that area.
14:12 <@Dolemite> Technically, it sounds like they were in deep shit.
14:12 <@oddball> yes, but didn't have to worry anout getting fired.
14:12 <@oddball> s/anout/about
14:12 <@Dolemite> But is it really such a good thing to get fired from a job where you risk getting covered in shit? :)
14:13 <@oddball> Meh, it was just a core sample.
14:13 <@Dolemite> ah, not so bad, then
14:13 <@Dolemite> but still, I'm working on a joke
14:13 <@Corydon76-lap> Yeah, my sister was testing the groundwater around an old landfill
14:13 <@oddball> Nothing about getting a core sample of crap?
14:15 < scribbles> lmao
14:15 <@Dolemite> You could always moon him whenever you see him and offer to give him a core sample
14:15 <@oddball> That was one of his jobs with the most... interesting... stories.
14:15 <@oddball> Like the state highway that was built on nothing but wet shale.
14:16 <@oddball> (and therefor sliding down a mountain)
14:16 <@CRasH180> That is smart
14:16 <@Dolemite> shale...  the stuff that likes to split apart when it gets wet...
14:16 <@oddball> Yep, that's the stuff.
14:16 <@Dolemite> cool!  sounds like a tourist attraction if I ever heard of one!
14:17 <@Dolemite> "Screw the dragon, our road moves on you!"
14:17 <@CRasH180> lol
14:17 <@oddball> Or them digging core samples for expanding a bridge, and finding a new cave.
14:18 <@oddball> There's a number of roads across the state that wouldn't be built now due to lack of solid ground.
14:21 < scribbles> still open?
14:24 <@Dolemite> Well we constantly hear about part of even the interstate system closing down for a day or two at a time while a sink hole is filled
14:26 < scribbles> i'm in atlanta, shit gets shut down for no reason
14:27 <@Dolemite> yep, I remember those days
14:27 <@Dolemite> back when 285 was constantly under construction
14:32 < scribbles> I try to stay OTP now
14:32 < scribbles> enough of that nonsense
14:32 <@Dolemite> It wasn't bad living ITP and working OTP
14:33 <@Dolemite> Always went against traffic
14:33 <@Dolemite> what sucked was when I lived in Marietta and worked in Norcross
14:33 < scribbles> ugh lmao
14:34 < scribbles> I'm commuting from roswell to kennesaw state for work right now
14:34 < scribbles> luckily its all opposite flow
14:34 <@Dolemite> that whole northwest corridor is TEH SUCK
14:35 <@Dolemite> and the sad thing is that people keep moving further out to avoid the traffic...  but so many of them do so, it just moves the traffic with them
14:35 <@Dolemite> Back in '96, the though of living in Cumming and commuting to Atlanta was laughable
14:35 <@Dolemite> s/though/thought
14:35 < scribbles> heh thats a portion of the metro commute now
14:36 < scribbles> sounds miserable :/
14:36 <@Dolemite> yeah, I have several friends that live in Cumming, but they don't go in to ATL any more
14:36 <@Dolemite> they either work from home or work relatively close by
14:36 < scribbles> I try to avoid it if I can
14:36 < scribbles> same reason why I dropped my freeside atl membership
14:36 <@Dolemite> the furthest out I ever lived was Powers Ferry Road (just 1 mile OTP!) and that was bad enough
14:36 < scribbles> fuck driving to turner field
14:37 <@Dolemite> Well, Powers Ferry @ Windy Hill
14:37 <@Dolemite> last place I lived was right off of Ptree Industrial in Doraville, over by the Homey Depot
14:37 < scribbles> thats all hood now
14:38 <@Dolemite> Well, you know, once you let Newt Gingrich move into the neighborhood, it all goes downhill
14:38 < scribbles> you were in the atlanta scene for a while weren't you?
14:38 <@Dolemite> yeah
14:38 < scribbles> rofl
14:38 < scribbles> Gingrich is a KSU alum *facepalm*
14:38 <@Dolemite> alum?  he used to teach there
14:38 <@Dolemite> but he got his degree way before KSU was formed, I thought
14:39 <@Dolemite> but yeah, I used to be a part of all the #atlanta and #atlantaga scene
14:39 < scribbles> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw_State#Alumni you're right
14:39 < scribbles> thats what I thought
14:39 < scribbles> those days are a bit hazy for me for undisclosed reasons ;)
14:39 <@Dolemite> 2600 back then was just as disorganized in ATL as it is today
14:40 < scribbles> I thought Freeside would rememdy that
14:40 < scribbles> but alas...
14:41 <@Dolemite> were you ever part of the efnet #atlanta crowd?
14:41 < scribbles> I was friends with zaph0d and pastagal and them
14:42 <@Dolemite> yeah, ok, same group then
14:42 <@Dolemite> we used to get together for social activities all the time
14:44 < scribbles> ORNL brought you to tTN?
14:44 <@Dolemite> I was room mates with Guyver back around 98, I think.  That was when we held GeekNIC as an OTP alternative to FreakNIC.
14:44 <@Dolemite> No, I am originally from Nashville.  Got tired of ATL and moved back in '99.
14:44 < scribbles> gotcha
14:45 < scribbles> I actually met the manager of the nashville hard rock cafe at a shelter on the AT a few weeks ago
14:45 <@Dolemite> Worked for a CLEC for a year, then Sun Microsystems for 5, then Vanderbilt University until this past August
14:47 < scribbles> I might have to come up that way for a con or get together sometime, there's not shit happening here
14:47 <@Dolemite> Well you just missed PhreakNIC in Nashville
14:47 < scribbles> I know :(
14:47 <@Dolemite> that was a couple of weekends ago
14:47 < scribbles> I was hiking on the AT
14:47 < scribbles> did 2 nights out there
14:48 <@Dolemite> If I can get the KNX 2600 group restarted may have to start having GEEKNIC in the Spring
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14:50 < scribbles> sounds like a good time
14:50 <@Dolemite> bah, someone else already grabbed geeknic.org
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15:07 <@ware> anyone know a Bobby Cornwell in 404
15:10 < scribbles> negative
15:10 < scribbles> man, #atlantaga@efnet is empty, used to be so busy
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16:02 <+fall0ut> hotlanta
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16:55 <@Dagmar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BJfMPxQuiU
17:15 <@Dagmar> Anyone else find hte timing suspect that we discovered "undetectable" explosives buried _deep inside printers_ this close to elections?
17:18 <@Dagmar> cog: Raptorpope?
17:19 <@Dagmar> doh.  THat was in response to http://www.neatorama.com/2010/10/29/dinosaur-skull-found-in-church/
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21:59 <@Dagmar> http://thereifixedit.failblog.org/2010/10/29/white-trash-repairs-let-the-new-wave-of-pumpkin-carving-begin/
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