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02:44 < fie> Mercster,
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06:24 <@NotLarry> note to self: attempts to upload to your arduino that is plugged into the wall socket for its usb power will always fail.
06:45 <@oddball> You mean transfering data to the powergrid doesn't work?
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07:00 <+VampirePenguin> goooodddd morninggggg se 26000 and 615
07:02 <@NotLarry> Well oddball, I assumed it would.  But then my jetpack has not arrived yet either.
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08:37 < timball> i wonder if my tobias funke outfit will be able to hold in all of my thunders
08:37 <@ware>  m0rning!
08:39 < timball> and these cut offs chafe
10:00 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
10:10 < dc0de> good morning Dolemite
10:11 < dc0de> and all of se2600....
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10:14 <@Dolemite> what's shakin and bakin, dc0de?
10:14 <@Dolemite> long time no see
10:15 <@dc0de> not much, about to head to the office... West coast is treating me well...
10:15 <@Dolemite> yeah, we missed you a PN
10:15 <@Dolemite> but glad to hear that you're doing well out in Leftcoastifornia
10:16 <@dc0de> it's fun...
10:16 <@dc0de> loving the sunshine...
10:16 <@dc0de> I'm heading to the office, so I'll lost some connectivity for a bit... I'll bbiaw.
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10:20 <@mtown_nerd> http://www.mainnerve.com/security.html  <--who our company is using for HIPAA gap analysis.  Anyone ever heard of/used them?
10:23  * polerin pokes lissa ^^
10:24 <@Lissa> yes lurv
10:25 <@Lissa> oh
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10:27 <@Lissa> never heard of them....the company i work for uses either FishNet or TibCo...can't remember whom though
10:27 <@Lissa> The company I used to work for used Aurora.
10:28 <@Lissa> heh...if you read FishNet and TibCo kinda fast...it looks like Fish Taco
10:28 <@polerin> mtown_nerd: ^
10:31 <@mtown_nerd> :O  hmmmm   Yeah...   I try to stay read up on the high-level concepts, but i'm really not a security guy.  Given this company's love of pre-packaged vendor trash, though, I was curious if this was any good
10:34 <@Lissa> mtown_nerd: sorry..can't help ya there.  But if it's pre-packaged and they don't offer any ala carte type of stuff, that could be bad.
10:35 <@Lissa> especially since everytime we seem to have all of our hipaa stuff squared away, something changes :)
10:49 <@ware> wut, ur mom getchu a 'puter for christmas?
10:51 <@mtown_nerd> Lissa: Yeah.  Well, our "Security Officer" (who is also, coincidentally, our Director of IT) has a really vendor-centric, white-paper driven concept of ...well, just about everything.
10:52 <@Lissa> no...but i gotta get a new motherboard because my controller is throwing errors
10:52 <@mtown_nerd> So when he talks about "security," it's painful.  lol
10:52 <@Lissa> mtown_nerd: ew. lol
10:53 <@mtown_nerd> He's left our entire client workstation and printing environments wide open, but he's convinced that doesn't matter b/c he's purchased a typemetric "2-factor" solution that uses keystrokes for authentication.  And he is quite certain that it's quite a boon to not only disable switch ports, but to ALSO physically remove patch cables in the network closets.
10:53 <@mtown_nerd> :/
10:54 <@mtown_nerd> so..anyway....   I've never heard of MainNerve, but I'm hardly around the security world enough to consider myself an authority
10:58 <@Corydon76-dig> mtown_nerd: wow, that's utterly clueless
11:01 <@Corydon76-dig> mtown_nerd: so what prevents/recovers if someone were to, oh, say, reformat and blank his workstation hard drive overnight?
11:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Once someone gets in, what prevents damage, and how do you determine what got broken?
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11:07 <@mtown_nerd> Corydon76-dig: We have no such protections.  :/
11:07 <@polerin> wb dc0de
11:07 <@dc0de> ty
11:09 <@polerin> mtown_nerd: if you want to frighten him, you can tell him about a major cable provider who left their LDAP passwords sitting in open shares and could have had a situation where several MILLION people were unable to get on the net because of that style of "security"
11:09 <@ware> mtown_nerd: ill exploit it
11:09 <@polerin> oh, also, all of their email addy's gone
11:10 <@mtown_nerd> lol
11:10 <@mtown_nerd> I've definitely attempted to bring a bit of reason to the meetings where he throws out these ideas to the group, but ...  I get nowhere.  ;(
11:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Then unfortunately, the only way he's going to wake up is experiencing a compromise
11:11 <@Corydon76-dig> and at that point, he may be out of a job
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> My only point there is CYA.  Write memos explaining why the current situation is bad, and point out ways to fix it.
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Make sure the memo goes out to all IT staff and management
11:13 <@Corydon76-dig> and write a new memo after every meeting
11:13 <@ware> or get some internet friendly entity to 'checkout' your network remotely
11:14 <@ware> friendly internet entity*
11:14 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: only if the entity is overseas and beyond the reach of US prosecution
11:14 <@ware>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/50091566@N05/5115967586/
11:14 <@ware> Corydon76-dig: incorrect
11:14 <@ware> you have to get caught to get prosecuted =/
11:14 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: you don't want to be on the wrong end of a subpoena
11:14 <@ware> "what are all these russian ip addresses in my logs?"
11:15 <@NotLarry> You order a wife?
11:15 <@NotLarry> or a nuke?
11:15 <@ware> she came with a VPS
11:15 <@ware> rofl
11:15 <@dc0de> what, you log russian IPs?
11:15 <@ware> no i send botnet commands from compromised russian hosts
11:15 <@ware> duh
11:16 <@ware> isnt that what all the cool kids do?
11:16 <@ware> hack from a compromised server overseas
11:16 <@ware> jeez
11:16 <@dc0de> those are the "friendly internet entity*
11:16 <@ware> exactly! :)
11:18 <@Dagmar> Hey ware, did you see this about MCadmin?  http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1012&t=66943
11:18 <@ware> WELL, now that we got that out of the way
11:18 <@Dagmar> THe devs got busted abusing a _hidden backdoor_ they built into the mod
11:20 <@ware> ROFL
11:20 <@ware> wow
11:20 <@ware> oh thats not bad
11:20 <@ware> just making it so he can join
11:23 <@NotLarry> Oh, mtown_nerd, I need your username and password
11:26 <+VampirePenguin> and thats security... damn one good linux usb key and he proba has telnet open... bye bye
11:27 <@dc0de> I loved scattering usb keys with back-doors in the autorun around bank parking lots at 5am...
11:27 <@dc0de> it's the best part of a sanctioned pen-test.
11:28 <+VampirePenguin> oh ya seeing how many ppl pick them up and use them
11:28 <+VampirePenguin> gotcha
11:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, it worked on the Pentagon...
11:29 <+VampirePenguin> how manyy ppl have the passwd taped to the bottom of keybds
11:29 <+VampirePenguin> good IT understands entropy
11:33 <+VampirePenguin> god damnit... wtf is it now... alot of csr help desks are talking to you first in spanish, the same damn thing for instruction books where you have to hunt fo the english
11:33 <@NotLarry> I do keep a password taped to the bottom of my keyboard, but it's Dagmar's so it doesn't count.
11:34 <+VampirePenguin> lol
11:35 <@Corydon76-dig> VampirePenguin: flip the manual over onto the back
11:36 <+VampirePenguin> its not on the back
11:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Or, depending upon your perspective, you're looking at the back.  flip the manual over onto the front
11:36 <+VampirePenguin> its in another wrapper packed bundle
11:36 <+VampirePenguin> all english
11:36 <+VampirePenguin> towards the bottom
11:37 <@Corydon76-dig> That's because they put it in there first.  The other language bundle was added as an afterthought
11:38 <+VampirePenguin> ivrs are doing too
11:38 <@Corydon76-dig> You know why English is considered the universal language?  It's because Americans are too stupid to learn other languages.
11:40 <@Dolemite> unless you're talking about cussing
11:40 <@Dolemite> nearly every American can swear in 2+ languages
11:41 <@opticron> english is just so fucking complicated, nothing else will fit in the average american's brain
11:41 <@Corydon76-dig> This is why manuals in other languages piss so many Americans off:  it reminds them how stupid they are
11:43 <+VampirePenguin> well no like this box im talking about is made in china... so if anything chinese/japanese should be first.. but fucking spanish
11:44 <@Corydon76-dig> In terms of land mass, the most popular language is Spanish for a native tongue
11:44 <+VampirePenguin> i think most eu kids are min 3 languages or more
11:45 <@Corydon76-dig> What, French, German, and English?
11:45 <+VampirePenguin> pretty much
11:45 <+VampirePenguin> maybe a slavik
11:45 <+VampirePenguin> or russian
11:46 <+VampirePenguin> up in MI most of the old timers who came from europe..  yiddish, hebrew aramaic and english
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23:49 < JesterFox> hum
23:50 < JesterFox> lissa!
23:51 <@ware> HUM
23:52 < Mercster> zionists control the world
23:52 < Mercster> hi ware
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23:52 <@ware> ohai
23:52 <@ware> <- zionist ware here
23:52 < Mercster> damn you
23:52 <@ware> here to tell you about SlapChop
23:52 < JesterFox> ohh dear lord
23:52 < JesterFox> noo
23:53 < Mercster> stop having a boring tuna
23:53 < Mercster> stop having a boring life
23:53 <@ware> do cocaine and punch hookers
23:53 <@ware> THEN PUT'EM IN A SLAPCHOP!
23:54 < Mercster> chop your whores away
23:54 <@ware> http://www.latimes.com/videobeta/1e82441c-05d3-444c-bf13-e141745f5d45/Auto/Confederate-Motor-s-P120
23:55 < Mercster> nice url bro
23:55 < Mercster> http://www.crunchgear.com/contest-entrant-4-firefox/
23:56 < Mercster> them's birthin' hips
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