--- Log opened Sat Oct 23 00:00:23 2010 --- Day changed Sat Oct 23 2010 00:00 <@Dagmar> I just threw it in there to do it my "usual" way, which is to turn around and run the script with bash -x and see exactly where I have to throw in backslashes 00:00 <@Dagmar> It worked, so the hell wth it 00:00 <@eryc> maybe the backticks helped 00:00 <@Dagmar> eryc: -p 0 makes it preselect a window 00:01 <@eryc> ah 00:01 <+Coder365> reminds me 00:01 <@Dagmar> I don't know why it wants you to preselect one tho. Ther'es only one damn window there 00:01 <+Coder365> i need to re-do my screen script 00:01 <@Dagmar> What's baffling is that it *immediately* goes right through if you're attached to that session from elsewhere 00:02 <@Dagmar> Seems like something is a bit wack there, but it's probably a glitch in the docs 00:02 <@eryc> in that case you'd be on screen 0 tho? 00:02 <@eryc> perhaps some funky selection cruft 00:02 <@Dagmar> eryc: Yeah, but there's no *other* screen in that session anyway 00:02 <@eryc> i wonder if you send an initial \r 00:03 <@eryc> maybe it needs a moment to select 0 00:03 <+Coder365> Dagmar: 00:03 <@Dagmar> eryc: Tried that. Didn't work. 00:03 <+Coder365> i threw together a script to toss commands to an existing screen window 00:03 <+Coder365> about a month ago 00:03 <@Dagmar> eryc: I had a concern it would fuck up if someone was on the console typing something 00:03 <@eryc> heh 00:03 <+Coder365> iirc, screen doesnt know wtf you're talking about unless you select a window to parse stuff to 00:04 <@Dagmar> It *will*, but it just keeps sending "stop\r" once a second until the damn thing exits 00:04 * Coder365 blinks 00:04 <+Coder365> ok. im on little sleep 00:04 <+Coder365> im just gonna walk awy 00:04 <+Coder365> away and call it good 00:04 <@Dagmar> Coder365: I wouldn't mind the -p0 if I knew a way to name the first window when the session is spawned 00:04 <+Coder365> there is 00:04 <+Coder365> hang on 00:06 <@Dagmar> I'm going to take a shot at -t 00:06 <@Dagmar> It looks good, but would definitely be a case of "docs are being too vague" 00:06 <+Coder365> screen -XS $screen_name -p $window_number title $window_name 00:07 <+Coder365> thats what i came up with when toying with it 00:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but you're setting a title on the window 00:08 <@Dagmar> ...not the window number 00:08 <+Coder365> OH 00:08 <+Coder365> you wanna be able to do 00:08 <+Coder365> -p LOLHAX 00:08 <@Dagmar> The annoying thing is this... 00:08 <+Coder365> and have it work 00:08 <@Dagmar> The *docs* actually say "-p number or name" 00:09 <+Coder365> thats odd 00:09 <@Dagmar> Yeah, okay. -t can set it at window creation time 00:10 <@Dagmar> Apparently the name _is_ the number when it's first actually created 00:10 <@Dagmar> ...which is non-obvious I think. 00:10 <@Dagmar> Oh well it fucking works now 00:10 <@Dagmar> I keep seeing these kids write complete pieces of shit init scripts and post them to the Minecraft forums 00:10 <@eryc> now for the better question! 00:10 <+Coder365> lemie pastebin what i have 00:10 <+Coder365> may help 00:10 <+Coder365> may not 00:11 <@eryc> why doesn't minecraft handle signals 00:11 <@Dagmar> I felt like *someone* should write a non-suck one that is JUST an init script and doesn't do something as retarded as `killall -9 java` 00:11 <@Dagmar> eryc: Because it's java 00:11 <@eryc> ah 00:11 <@eryc> so rmi! 00:11 <@sdodson> java handles signals 00:11 <+Coder365> http://pastebin.com/Sa8VLJPe 00:11 <+Coder365> fwiw 00:12 <@eryc> http://twit88.com/blog/2008/02/06/java-signal-handling/ 00:12 <@Dagmar> So I made a fucking script that woin't let you run the shit as root, properly su's to a role account, ONLY tries to talk to instances of java owned by the role user, that are actually running minecraft?., 00:12 <@Dagmar> Oh, and works out of the box on both Ubuntu (which puts java in /usr/bin like reasonable people) and Slackware which is still convinced it can't be trusted and belongs in goddamn /usr/lib64/java/bin 00:13 <@Dagmar> Coder365: Nah I have it sorted now 00:13 <@eryc> is that a symlink on ubuntu? 00:13 <@Dagmar> The way the docs explain it it's crazy 00:13 <+Coder365> kk np 00:13 <@Dagmar> eryc: No, it's just _not_ actually unreasonable to put java in /usr/bin 00:13 <+Coder365> im loopy anyway 00:13 <@eryc> you sure its not a symlink 00:14 <@Dagmar> Coder365: I kept seeing -p in reference to number or name, MOST of the time when something is numbered, it _stays_ numbered and it's only numbers and you don't get to really rearrange them, dig? 00:14 <@Dagmar> eryc: Ah, I just looked and it is a symlink, but it doesn't matter it still works 00:15 <@eryc> :P 00:15 <@Dagmar> Points to /etc/alternatives/java for whatever damn reason 00:15 <@eryc> yea 00:15 <@Dagmar> Oddly they don't set JAVA_HOME, but it looks like this thing doesn't need to pull assets from there anyway, so it's one less piece of bullshit I have to worry about 00:15 <@Dagmar> screen gets pissy about invocations that amount to `JAVA_HOME=/blah command` 00:16 <@eryc> java is problematic in that class files are not always compatible for different jvms 00:16 <+Coder365> Dagmar: yup 00:16 <@Dagmar> I have run into just SO many ways trying to wrapper screen with su can just result in silent fialure 00:17 <+Coder365> ok. i need sleep bad 00:17 <+Coder365> night yo 00:17 <@Dagmar> Get some sleep then 00:17 <@eryc> so whats the point of minecraft? 00:18 <@Dagmar> GOOOOLD 00:18 <@Dagmar> Oh, and building shit 00:18 <@eryc> cash4gold? 00:18 <@Dagmar> Take a look at http://ackis.in.the.narro.ws 00:18 <@Dagmar> ...which is, um, extremely overkill. Heheh 00:18 <@Dagmar> People have been busy, and I'm just barely getting started 00:19 <@eryc> this is one dude's server? 00:19 <@eryc> or are they all interconnected? 00:20 <@eryc> is this shit builtin to the server? 00:22 <@eryc> hrm 00:22 <@eryc> so its like a big game of legos? 00:23 <@sdodson> It's a game for people who can't handle all the social interaction of WoW 00:24 <@eryc> sdodson: so you play? 00:25 <@Dagmar> It's just _one_ server 00:25 <@sdodson> I just signed up! 00:25 <@Dagmar> The terrain is autogenerated when someone goes near somewhere that doesn't exist yet. 00:26 <@Dagmar> The final size of the thing could potentially be about 8x the Earth's surface so... no real shortage of _land_ there 00:26 <@eryc> ah, okay yea the water/beach/land area looked algorithmic 00:26 <@eryc> i wondered about that 00:26 <@Dagmar> It looks kinda crap at first glance, but it's just sneakily amusing 00:26 <@eryc> "kinda"? 00:26 <@eryc> haha 00:27 <@eryc> it looks good zoomed way out 00:27 <@Dagmar> OKay so it looks crude as hell, but then again so does a lot of cel shading in video games 00:27 <@Dagmar> eryc: Oh no man 00:27 <@sdodson> everyone at work is all about it 00:27 <@Dagmar> That website is just a Google Maps _representation_ 00:27 <@Dagmar> That shit is acutally 3D. 00:27 <@Dagmar> http://minecraft.net/ 00:27 <@Dagmar> There's a slightly crap video there on the site. 00:28 <@eryc> yea i watched those before 00:28 <@eryc> did you buy it? 00:29 <@Dagmar> Yeah 00:29 <@Dagmar> Freaking like $12 USD 00:29 <@eryc> ah 00:29 <@Dagmar> When he started having issues with his auth server he set up a "freeplay" weekend and I tried it then 00:29 <@eryc> so its not open source 00:29 <@eryc> wow what the hell 00:29 <@Dagmar> Fired it up thinking it wasn't much... FIVE GODDAMN HOURS LATER... 00:29 <@Dagmar> It's obfuscated java 00:30 <@eryc> the guys at hacdc just built a game engine 00:30 <@Dagmar> It's also given me good reason to lose even more respect for the jackasses from /v/ 00:30 <@Dagmar> At least /b/tards have a sense of what fuckin' matters 00:31 <@Dagmar> Some dipshits from /v/ were acutally DDoSing the author's shit demanding he release more updates earlier instead of the big one he's releasing on the 31st 00:31 <@eryc> lol 00:31 <@Dagmar> Like, that's pretty goddamn pathetic 00:32 <@Dagmar> The guy's shit is practically on fire because of the sudden rush of good press, and he's busting ass to try to make infrastructure happen, upgrade hardware, get an _office_ and hire some people to help, and those fuckers throw a tantrum over the fact that Notch didn't do an update that week 00:32 <@Dagmar> Like, how goddamn unreasonable can someone be 00:33 <@Dagmar> They need some fines or jailtime there, IMHO 00:33 <@Dagmar> There's a big difference between fucking with a company, and fucking over one guy who is pretty much spending all his time trying to sort out the thing you're obsessing over 00:35 <@eryc> i've reached the bottom of the earth 00:35 <@Dagmar> Thats' where the good stuff spawns 00:35 <@Dagmar> It's also where the monsters are most likely to come out and kick your ass at night. 00:36 <@Dagmar> As clunky as it is, those monsters do a pretty good job of giving the blocks you collect some percieved value 00:36 <@eryc> are there monsters in "classic"? 00:37 <@eryc> i'm in this applet thing 00:37 <@eryc> i can break blocks with my hammer 00:37 <@Dagmar> They're pretty oldschool. They're not very smart, and mainly if you get lazy/stupid, they'll fuckin' GET you 00:37 <@Dagmar> eryc: Classic mode has no monsters that I'm aware of. It's mainly just for building 00:37 <@eryc> oh 00:37 <@Dagmar> It seems like the addition of monsters in Alpha hit that magic balance 00:37 <@Dagmar> Wihtout 'em, the thing gets boring fast. 00:38 <@eryc> it feels like the 80's in 3D 00:38 <@Dagmar> With 'em, after they've kicked your ass a few times, you'r egenerally pretty motivated to start expanding and fortifying 00:38 <@Dagmar> ...and getting even. Preferably, with lava. 00:38 <@eryc> i see 00:38 <@eryc> so a bit like castle defense? 00:39 <@eryc> or whatever you call that genre 00:39 <@Dagmar> Yeah, except using octrees and voxels, the degree to which you can fuck up the environment is pretty much not seen elsewhere 00:39 <@eryc> it all makes sense now 00:39 <@Dagmar> What does? 00:40 <@eryc> the game i guess 00:40 <@eryc> all i ever saw was builder mode 00:40 <@Dagmar> Ah okay 00:40 <@Dagmar> Yeah the addition of monsters definitely made a massive difference 00:40 <@Dagmar> It seems to have been the reason there was a sudden spike in interest that got him the 600,000 euros in two weeks that caused Paypal to freak out 00:41 <@Dagmar> Yeah, 600k euros in two weeks... and that was at the outset 00:41 <@eryc> does it have to use a small color pallete and texture size? 00:41 <@eryc> ah haha 00:42 <@eryc> thats pretty sweet 00:42 <@eryc> thats 1mil US 00:42 <@eryc> quick we need to make minecraft for iphone 00:43 <@Dagmar> You probably could 00:43 <@eryc> or i suppose android would be easier 00:43 <@eryc> but iphone has more lemmings! 00:43 <@Dagmar> eryc: He went through another week after that where the bottleneck on creating new accounts was _Paypal_ not being able to process it fast enough 00:43 <@eryc> thats crazy 00:43 <@Dagmar> By my estimates he's somewhere north of three million USD now 00:44 <@eryc> and they say java is dead 00:44 <@eryc> (i didn't) 00:50 <@Dagmar> hehe 01:08 <+Coder365> bah 01:08 <+Coder365> so much for sleep 01:19 <@Evilpig> no need for sleep 01:19 <@Evilpig> i'll be up all night 01:20 <@ware> wat 01:26 <@Evilpig> what what? i'll be up all night bitch... 01:28 <@Evilpig> I've got that damned commercial stuck in my head tonight too. that J.G. Wentworth song thing 01:40 <@Evilpig> hey ware, http://imgur.com/gMq8l 01:53 <@eryc> zomg 01:54 <@eryc> you got pixels on the screen! 01:54 <@Dagmar> Yuck. 01:55 <@Dagmar> Individual bags. 01:55 <@eryc> fo real 01:55 <@eryc> wheres the hacks bro! 01:55 <@Dagmar> ArkInventory. 01:55 <@Dagmar> It makes the OCD in ya smile. 01:56 <@Dagmar> That screenshot answers one question tho 01:56 <@Dagmar> This last time through setting Bartender4 up, I saw an option for the decorations (those gryphons on each side of the hotkey bar) 01:56 <@Dagmar> *Apparently* somewhere in the game there were a set of lions that can take their place. 01:57 <@Dagmar> I'm using those for novelty. 01:57 <@Evilpig> I used to have them just gone. but lost desire to remove them 01:58 <@Dagmar> I'm still working out where the hell to put things since the class changes 01:58 <@Evilpig> and I can't stand arkinventory. I have a system to my bags and I like it as it is 01:58 <@Dagmar> Thank god Rapid Fire is at least still off the GCD 01:58 <@Evilpig> my bags are still cluttered from the server move 01:58 <@Dagmar> I have to actually pay attention to when Kill Command goes live 01:58 <@Dagmar> ...now I've got Focus Fire to worry about, as well as some other thing that gives me and the pet 50 focus back 01:59 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: The one thing I like for _sure_ about AI is that my bags _can't_ get cluttered. 02:00 <@Dagmar> It doesn't matter where in there something is, it's either being compartmentalized by default category, or by my own categories, and automatically sorted by ilevel or whatever other details make sense 02:00 <@Dagmar> Quest items in their own little row, bind on equip greens and so forth off to the side, the toys I carry around in their own little group, etc etc 02:01 <@Dagmar> ...and now it functions as a general "Keep track of my shit" feature. Mouse over something and in the tooltip it shows what other toons I have those on, and where they've got them, be it in the bank, or their mailboxes, or in their pockets 02:02 -!- peaches1984 [orange@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:09 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: i've got a mod that does that. been using it for years. called bankitems 02:10 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: what is the url to the required training site? 02:11 <@Dagmar> No idea and I don't have xmarks setup to do that right now... However... http://its.vanderbilt.edu/skillsofttraining 02:11 <@Dagmar> Googling "Vanderbilt Skillsoft" turns it up 02:11 <@Evilpig> that works 02:11 <@Dagmar> Yep. 02:11 <@Evilpig> gonna try to finish some of that nonsense tonight 02:11 <@Evilpig> and it is nonsense 02:11 <@Dagmar> This is why I don't worry so much about my bookmarks 02:11 <@Dagmar> Ah crap 02:11 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: There's one magic ticket that completely slipped my mind, but it's stupid-easy 02:11 <@Evilpig> did xmarks get enough pledges? 02:11 <@Dagmar> Move two cables. 02:12 <@Evilpig> k. cables made? 02:12 <@Dagmar> Cables already exist. 02:12 <@Evilpig> looking now 02:12 <@Dagmar> Literally it's just unplugging from one port, moving to another 02:12 <@Dagmar> I'd relabel with some white-out and a marker, personally. 02:12 <@Evilpig> I see it. np. will do here in a bit 02:13 <@Dagmar> Yeah I just never had cause to go back in there after we got the ISIS thing taken care of 02:13 <@Evilpig> did chris hare never call back about this pop3? 02:13 <@Dagmar> Nah, it got fixed tho 02:14 <@Evilpig> still is nagios 02:14 <@Dagmar> It's still showing down in Nagios? 02:14 <@Evilpig> duration: 0d 12h 11m 22s 02:14 <@Dagmar> Dmanit 02:14 <@Evilpig> calling him now. this should be fun! 02:15 <@Dagmar> Sheesh. As many times as that's been a "kick the server" solution... 02:15 <@Evilpig> email isn't answering the phone. imagine that 02:15 <@Dagmar> Wait... where are you seeing it? 02:16 <@Evilpig> https://nagios.its.vanderbilt.edu/nagios/cgi-bin/extinfo.cgi?type=2&host=its-hcwnem23.ds&service=POP3S+Service 02:16 <@Dagmar> Now I see it, nevbermind 02:16 <@Evilpig> was just looking at the tickets closing shit that is cleared 02:16 <@Evilpig> saw that and was like. fuck 02:16 <@Evilpig> ed is great 02:16 <@Evilpig> "Had 3 but one cleared before I was able to get the e-mail on call Gay Shepperd. ehk" 02:17 <@Dagmar> heheh 02:17 <@Dagmar> The error message it's giving for that service leads me to believe that it might be a known issue of some kind 02:17 <@Dagmar> ...or rather something they couldn't do anything about. Not sure. 02:18 <@Evilpig> it looks like the ssl check has a fault of some variety 02:18 <@Dagmar> "unknown protocol" is not something it usually says. Those are typically just not answering connections 02:19 <@Evilpig> changed the due date on the partner support request to monday at 7. just fyi it'll be notlarry and I here 02:19 <@Dagmar> k 02:19 <@Evilpig> so you serious about wanting to fix some of the millicode? email wants the srfs thing changed but they haven't submitted a ticket about it, yet 02:20 <@Dagmar> Actually, yes 02:20 -!- knot [~knotsucke@unaffiliated/devemo] has joined #se2600 02:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o knot] by ChanServ 02:20 <@Dagmar> Most of the coding I'm doing lately is just for piffle 02:20 <@Dagmar> It has pretty much no impact on anything 02:20 <@Evilpig> once I get the ticket from them. I will steer that one your direction 02:20 <@Dagmar> k 02:21 <@Dagmar> I was writing this minecraft init script thing just because it involved some hoops I've never jumped through before. I likey new problems. 02:21 <@Evilpig> something about they want to change who it notifies or add the department it's for, somethign to that effect. 02:21 -!- knot [~knotsucke@unaffiliated/devemo] has quit [Client Quit] 02:21 <@Evilpig> oh. I talked to strik. that googlemaps / minecraft thing wasn't him 02:21 <@Dagmar> I didn't know who set it up or wrote it 02:21 <@Dagmar> Just it's _use_ is dramatic levels of overkill 02:21 <@Evilpig> em04 just rebooted. WHEEE! 02:22 <@Dagmar> Yowch! That hasn't happened in a while 02:23 <@Dagmar> Googling around the POP3s thing seems to be just that it doesn't have encryption _on_ anymore on that port 02:24 <@Dagmar> That might be why it's eluded the on call 02:24 <@Evilpig> chris restared the pop3 service earlier and didnt' check to see if it fixed hte problem. moron 02:24 <@Dagmar> Well, in his defense, it's only jammed up like a thousand times the exact same way 02:25 <@Evilpig> still you don't say you've fixed something and not check back up on it 02:25 <@Evilpig> that is the biggest problem with some of the lazy fucks up there 02:25 <@Dagmar> That much is true. I feel stupid for not looking to see that it was fixed. 02:25 < fie_> You know who is really awesome? Mercster. 02:25 <@Dagmar> I generally take their word on it when they say they fixed it unless Nagios keeps hollering 02:25 < fie_> He's tha bomb 02:25 <@Evilpig> it isn't like we get a notice when stuff comes off error 02:25 <@Evilpig> they do and he should have noticed he didn't get that email 02:29 <@Evilpig> did these checkpoints come in today? 02:29 <@Dagmar> Nope. 02:29 <@Evilpig> after that I won't bug you anymore 02:36 <@Dagmar> By the way, Fallout New Vegas _actually_ has some dancing hookers in it 02:36 <@Dagmar> Granted, since the setting is a club named "Gommorah" it should be a bit more than that, but it's a start 02:36 <@Evilpig> lol 02:39 <@Evilpig> you'd expect someone that is on the team that cares for the email servers to at least use the built in spell checker in his email before sending out stuff that goes to all of its. "ITS-Hcwnem04 restarted un expectedly restarted and service has been restored at this time.." spot the errors kiddos 02:40 <@Dagmar> Yeah I didn't really buy it when Nashville Tech was telling us that sooo many people have technical skills but wrote horrifyingly poorly, which was why they had all these written/essay requirements in their coursework. 02:41 <@Dagmar> Of course, now I've seen that what they said was basically true. 02:46 <@Evilpig> it doesn't really bother me if the grammar is all fucked up, as long as it isn't too horrific. but come on... the spell check is there, it's built in and on by default... there is no excuse 03:12 < Mercster> poison slows you down 03:59 <@Evilpig> so do broken ankles. what's your point? 04:00 * Mercster watches 'heavy metal' 04:01 <@Evilpig> I wonder if I can get out of this online training bullshit by saying I have a problem with reading comprehension and this is causing undue stress on me 04:02 < Mercster> probably, but then they'd have sufficient grounds for firing you for illiteracy 04:02 <@Evilpig> I can read technical manuals all day 04:02 <@Evilpig> I don't read books / short stories, etc 04:03 <@Evilpig> insert tab a in slot b makes sense 04:03 <@Evilpig> sally is having a bad day and her coworker is an asshole because... fuck that 04:05 <@Evilpig> Here have an example. I'll type as quick as I can but this shit is retarded and long for the most part 04:05 <@Evilpig> Exploratory question are an acceptable alternative to asking a succession of "why" questions. They soften what could be seen as an accusing edge to attempts to investigate another person's reasoning. Choose the questions and statements that can b described as exploratory. 04:06 <@Evilpig> A: "Why is that your company policy?" 04:06 <@Evilpig> B: "And your company came to that conclusion because...?" 04:06 <@Evilpig> C: "Explain how you approached that problem." 04:06 <@Evilpig> D: "Tell me more about your decision to change that location." 04:07 <@Evilpig> no real crazy typos there either. nice. 04:07 < Mercster> huh 04:07 <@Evilpig> the answer is C and D 04:07 < Mercster> what ring of hell do you inhabit 04:07 <@Evilpig> but the real question is WHY THE FUCK AM I DOING THIS GOD DAMNIT! 04:08 < Mercster> amusing 04:08 <@Evilpig> I inhabit the ring that is ruled by jackasses that sit in meetings and think that because they have time to sit through meetings everyone else must as well. so they decide, incorrectly, to fill the rest of our time with their management training nonsense 04:09 <@Evilpig> I did this shit in college. I said then I am not a manager, won't ever be a manager. I can't stand when people are lazy and don't take the time to do shit right. I would rather do it my damn self then designate some assclown that is just going to fuck it up and I am gonna have to do it myself and fix his/her mistakes as well. 04:10 < Mercster> well management includes hiring the right people 04:10 <@Evilpig> why put someone on something just to make it seem like the problem is getting fixed? all that does is piss a customer off when they realize they are getting double billed because you didn't have the right person for the job the first time 04:10 < Mercster> but as far as those training questions 04:11 < Mercster> id probably just urinate on the monitor and be escorted off the premises 04:11 <@Evilpig> if I wouldn't get fired for it I would send out a "study guide" to everyone in the dept 04:11 < Mercster> in most of my positions my customers have been internal, i.e. programmers, DBAs, etc 04:11 <@Evilpig> someone else in the NOC found a bug in the testing software 04:17 <@Evilpig> well fuck a duck 04:17 <@Evilpig> god damned testing/training site goes down in the middle of a fucking test 04:19 < Mercster> Error: Success 04:48 <@Evilpig> this has degraded to the point of I want to stab a bitch over this 05:45 <@Evilpig> http://imgur.com/d7AXW.jpg <--required training 06:05 < fie_> My girlfriend tells me I have to talk to my friends online. 06:05 < fie_> Unfortunately none of them are here. OH SNAP! 06:05 < fie_> No really, I love you guys. 06:30 < Gerdesas> Evilpig: Is setting people on fire considered a communication skill? 06:59 <@Evilpig> hey fie_ . diaf. is your talking done now? 07:00 <@Evilpig> Gerdesas: I really think it should be. I mean if it gets to the point that fire is involved. The person on teh receiving end has probably figured out they fucked up somehow 07:04 -!- Dem0 [~daniel@69.166.171.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:17 <@Evilpig> anyone awake to tell me if this share link looks out of place? http://pumpkinville.net/beta.html 07:36 <@sdodson> Evilpig: ya, those things normally go towards the end 07:39 <@Evilpig> I put it near the end but it really just didn't fit 07:51 <@sdodson> Evilpig: put it right under the video 07:59 <@Evilpig> i'll try that here in just a sec. I had an interesting person offer to come to the next phreaknic. just not sure how they would tie in. need to go back and talk to the guy some more 07:59 <@Evilpig> what would y'all think about a bus pulling up with a fully functional tattoo shop on board? 08:02 < fie_> Evilpig, my girlfriend says to die in a pig's ass. 08:02 < fie_> Sup maing. 08:04 <@sdodson> whats the wife say? 08:04 <@Evilpig> mine? she's asleep 08:05 <@Evilpig> almost gets lost under the video. if I float it right. it's a little better 08:15 <@Evilpig> for being a pissant little nothing. pumpkinville.net had 2100 visitors in oct 2009, this year they've had 3828. 08:28 < fie_> <3 08:28 < fie_> sdodson, TO THE NIGHT 09:17 <+scribbles> how was the con? 09:20 <@Evilpig> quite possibly the funniest pickup line i've ever heard "Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that was a Braille name tag." 09:24 <@Neoteric> did WRVU sell the transmitter?? 09:26 <@Evilpig> ummm. I heard it was up for sale. or they were at least talking about it 09:27 < K4k> scribbles, which con? 09:27 <@Evilpig> no http://www.insidevandy.com/drupal/node/14957 09:34 -!- stowbari [~Jon@adsl-70-228-77-122.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #se2600 09:36 -!- stowbari [~Jon@adsl-70-228-77-122.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:40 -!- peaches1984 [nine@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:45 -!- stowbari [~Jon@adsl-70-228-77-122.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #se2600 10:03 <+scribbles> phreaknic 10:04 <@Evilpig> that was last weekend 10:56 -!- rattle [~rattle@pool-71-178-11-56.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 10:56 -!- rattle [~rattle@pool-71-178-11-56.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:56 -!- rattle [~rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 10:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 10:56 <@ware> morning 10:57 <@Evilpig> no 10:58 <@Evilpig> is that really rattle or just a reconnecting ghost? 10:58 <@rattle> It's me. 10:58 <@Evilpig> I just sent you a message on FB 10:58 <@rattle> Yeah.. re your message, I can't remember the first phreaknic I saw him at. 10:58 <@Evilpig> Damn booze! 10:58 <@rattle> I didn't really know him all that well until the second time I popped up in the nashville scene. 10:59 <@Evilpig> btw missed you this year. how'd your other talk go? 10:59 <@rattle> I seem to remember him being involved in poolnet wiring, but that's really fuzzy. Could have been one of a dozen people... 10:59 <@rattle> The talk went well. 11:00 <@rattle> Hanging in Miami for a week was quite fun. 11:00 <@rattle> Next year, I must make it to phreaknic through. I've missed two years in a row now. 11:00 <@Evilpig> we're already making plans 11:00 <@Evilpig> discussing possible themes n such 11:00 <@rattle> Assume I'll be doing a talk. 11:00 <@Evilpig> roger 11:01 <@rattle> And hold me to this.. :) 11:01 <@Evilpig> haha 11:01 <@Evilpig> I think this next year I might be taking an active role in teh planning side of things. not just filling holes as needed 11:01 <@rattle> Who are the ring leaders at this point? I have not been following Nashville 2600 politics. 11:02 <@Evilpig> corydon wears the hat. notlarry is riding his coat tails 11:02 <@Evilpig> lissa is cooking the books 11:02 <@Evilpig> oh and I wear the skirt 11:02 <@Lissa> heh 11:03 <@Evilpig> skydog is someplace scheming and plotting out demise, but denies it 11:03 <@Evilpig> now you're up to date 11:03 <@Evilpig> out/our 11:04 * rattle plays the circle of life song from the Lion King. 11:05 <@Evilpig> there is one more thing. corydon has a giant bunny. we named it stew but he calls it johnny 11:06 <+Coder365> that rabbit is epic 11:06 * Coder365 disappears back to the shadows 11:06 <@Lissa> it would feed a family of 5 11:06 <@Evilpig> or two average PN attendees 11:06 * Lissa nods 11:07 <@Lissa> but he does have another flemish giant at home 11:07 <@Lissa> she's a little smaller, but not by much 11:10 <@rattle> I have a mini lop named Chief. 11:15 <@Evilpig> http://www.koreus.com/video/manege-vomi.html ROFL 11:15 <@Evilpig> WARE watch video! 11:16 <+Coder365> old computer clean out day 11:16 <+Coder365> this tally is gonna be siiiiick 11:25 <@Evilpig> wow http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/datablog/interactive/2010/oct/23/wikileaks-iraq-deaths-map? 11:35 -!- VampirePenguin [~vp@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin] has joined #se2600 11:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v VampirePenguin] by ChanServ 11:51 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:59 <@polerin> ugh. 12:00 <@polerin> Evilpig: dood. I has epic plans for pn15 12:00 <@polerin> seriously, but we need to go over them soon, or it's not going to happen, because it takes a LOT of handshaking 12:01 <@polerin> and lissa has a few of her own :D 12:01 <@Evilpig> yeah I know. gotta deal with the problems at hand first. 12:01 <@polerin> well, yes, but not even that. 12:15 <@Evilpig> alright. I gotta get up off here and get this computer handed over to pat 12:16 * polerin pokes NotLarry 12:16 <@Evilpig> call him. odds are he's lurking and not even got screen connected 12:16 <@polerin> yeh, same with me 12:17 <@polerin> but I have a sore throat and I hate talking on the phone 12:18 <@Evilpig> i'll call him and tell him to hit up irc 12:18 <@polerin> neh I got it. I was just checking irc first 12:19 <@Evilpig> need to make a collection of all the theme ideas we've had already and get them in a pile. I laughed at one of the CarolinaCon themes. I think the one they went with too. something about drinking. but my brain is totally not working now 12:19 <@Evilpig> alright. really getting off here now. later 12:19 <@Corydon76-home> Later 12:19 <@polerin> I'll start a temp list in Hard NOC's till we are recovered 12:22 <+VampirePenguin> hey polerin Corydon76-home 12:40 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-98-242-80-239.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:12 <@polerin> oi 13:21 <+scribbles> are mos tof the people here nashville? 13:40 <+Coder365> depends 13:40 <+Coder365> i'm from MI 14:14 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@c-68-52-189-50.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:14 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@c-68-52-189-50.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 14:14 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 14:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 14:26 <@polerin> there's actually a fairly wide spread 14:27 <@polerin> but yeah, the largest block of people is nash based 14:43 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:44 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 14:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 15:01 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:02 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 15:09 -!- Coder365 is now known as NotCoder 15:09 -!- NotCoder is now known as Coder[afk] 15:20 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-243-130.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:22 <@NotLarry> what? 15:23 <+Coder[afk]> nothing. related to another channel 15:23 <@NotLarry> I need 4+ folding chairs. 15:23 <+Coder[afk]> oh? 15:23 <@NotLarry> lol 15:24 <@NotLarry> Yeah, 4 folding chairs. 15:25 <@eryc> 4 or 5? 15:26 <@NotLarry> I'll take 5 15:26 <@NotLarry> Hell, I'll haul away 20 if need be. 15:26 <@eryc> not 6? 15:26 <@eryc> oh 20! 15:26 <@eryc> i think 20 is too many 15:26 <@NotLarry> I want to get the kids out of the house with their fire and soldering etc... 15:28 <@eryc> good plan 15:29 <@eryc> i've got 4 chairs for you 15:29 <@NotLarry> sweet. I'm drunk right now but 15:29 <@NotLarry> Wait, is this like "I got your 4 chairs right here?" 15:30 <@eryc> nope 15:30 <@eryc> this is like 15:30 <@eryc> i live in Virginia and you have to drive 10 hours to get them! 15:31 * eryc pats NotLarry on the back 15:31 <@NotLarry> I got someone comeing to Virginia next weekend. email me at notlarry@hotmail.com and we can set it up. 15:31 <@NotLarry> in fact, I'm riding the tail of the dragon mid november as well. 15:32 <@eryc> whats that? 15:32 <@NotLarry> 11 miles, 380 curves 15:32 <@NotLarry> something like that 15:32 <@NotLarry> motorcycle. 15:32 <@NotLarry> or sports cars 15:32 <@NotLarry> and of course the ocationall tractor trailer 15:32 <@NotLarry> damn, my beer spell checker is not working 15:35 <+VampirePenguin> must be running on python3 and got broke 15:35 <+VampirePenguin> lulz 15:42 <@polerin> NotLarry: ey, when are you wanting to go down to that makers meeting? 15:44 <@NotLarry> polerin: what time of day? 15:44 <@polerin> no, what date 15:45 <@NotLarry> polerin: Ok, I'll type slower. What time of day? 15:46 <@polerin> er, pig said you were thinking about going down to HSV for the makers meet down there, what day is it, unless it's today. at which point, yeah uh, never mind :D 15:49 <@eryc> NOW 15:49 <@eryc> I AM AT MAKERS MEET NOW WHERE R U 15:49 <@NotLarry> it's on my work weekend so I cant make it. 15:49 <@eryc> HURRY UP OK BAI 15:50 <@polerin> ok 15:50 <@NotLarry> it all depends on the time of day. If it is at or after 1pm I can do it any day but today. If it is before then that becomes problomatic. 15:51 <@Corydon76-home> NotLarry: you need to HAVE or BORROW 4 folding chairs? 15:51 <@NotLarry> have 15:52 <@Corydon76-home> Ah, sorry, can't help you there 15:52 <@Corydon76-home> I have 4 canvas folding chairs you could borrow for e.g. camping 15:53 <@NotLarry> I need 4+ metal folding chairs for the boys for their possible maker space 15:53 <@eryc> I HAVE IDEA 4 U 15:53 <@eryc> BUY THEM 15:53 <@NotLarry> nope. That would be contrary to the whole idea of the space. 15:54 <@eryc> 15:54 <@Corydon76-home> NotLarry: for sitting on, or did you have an idea for cannibalizing them? 15:54 <@NotLarry> sitting on. Getting the soldering and the open flames out of the house. 15:55 < Gerdesas> What's wrong with open flames in the house. Live dangerously! 15:55 <@Corydon76-home> I'd be fine with a long term loan on the canvas chairs 15:56 <@NotLarry> To delecate. Thanks though. As eryc pointed out, I can pick them up on craigslist or a local yard sale for about what it costs to drive them away. 15:56 <@Corydon76-home> Fair enough 15:57 <@NotLarry> Listened to the 1959 reading of _howl_ read by ginsburg the other day. Fucking amazing. 15:59 <@polerin> NotLarry: Dood, if you want to go diving, I can totally help you with that shit 15:59 <@polerin> I'm pretty sure we can get some kit for you that way 16:00 <@NotLarry> wha? 16:00 <@polerin> dumpster diving 16:02 <@NotLarry> Damn, icecream "van" just went by. 16:03 <@NotLarry> I'm torn between my desire for icecream and how intrigued I am by the brilliance of getting a white van and putting ice cream stickers on the side. 16:07 < fie_> I'd love to be the ice cream man. 16:08 -!- stowbari [~Jon@adsl-70-228-77-122.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:08 <@NotLarry> you can probably be my "ice cream man" I say, knowing it will end up as the topic at some point 16:09 < fie_> Oh, I got some ice cream for ya! 16:09 <@eryc> suck on my cream-filled popsicle! 16:09 < fie_> eryc, .... uhhhuh 16:10 -!- Corydon76-home changed the topic of #se2600 to: <@Lissa> it's probably all over my face and hair too -=- suck on my cream-filled popsicle 16:10 <@NotLarry> Having seen your "cream-filed popsicle" I can confidently say that talking about sucking on it from virginia is a little more than optimistic. 16:11 < fie_> Virginia what? 16:11 <@NotLarry> fie_: if you can't keep up don't put on your running shoes. 16:13 <@Neoteric> BEARS!!! 16:13 <@NotLarry> 16:14 <@Neoteric> who's coming to dc for the stewart/colbert rally? 16:14 <@Neoteric> because BEARS! 16:14 < fie_> Well in these parts, you have to take time to look around once in a while, regardless of footwear. 16:14 <@NotLarry> I wish 16:14 <@Neoteric> www.transBEARency.com 16:15 <@Neoteric> see also: http://bit.ly/9yI5Ou 16:15 < fie_> I was curious about the virginia thing because of the lack of eryc's presence on #va2600 on that one server for such things. 16:23 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:30 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 17:26 <@NotLarry> 17:33 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:40 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 17:44 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45 <@NotLarry> ok, now we can talk 17:48 <@NotLarry> polerin: you still didn't get back to me on a time. 17:48 <@NotLarry> polerin: and are directors to be included? 18:01 -!- juice [~juice@67.48.16.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08 <@Lissa> she's taking my roommate to the hospital...so...dunno when she'll be back 18:20 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:22 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 18:33 <@polerin> I'm on, and what was I supposed to get back to you on? 18:40 -!- juice [~juice@67.48.16.165] has joined #se2600 18:52 <+VampirePenguin> just say NO to yellow cab 18:52 <+VampirePenguin> fuckers 18:56 <+VampirePenguin> hye Evilpig does being on the ircstats mean im now eligible for the fbi's most wanted list 19:04 <+VampirePenguin> :) 19:07 <+VampirePenguin> all in all its just another brick in the wall..... 19:09 <+VampirePenguin> bUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE bUTTHOLE sURFERS ARE PLAYING IN aUSTIN OVER hALLOWEEN 19:10 <+VampirePenguin> utoh caps abuse 19:10 <+VampirePenguin> danger will robinson danger 19:11 <@NotLarry> ok, I'm back 19:12 <+VampirePenguin> http://www.stubhub.com/butthole-surfers-tickets/?gcid=C12289x021&keyword=2260997709&creative=151062149&query=butthole%20surfers%20austin 19:13 <+VampirePenguin> for those that thought i made up that line 19:13 <@Dagmar> I don't know that I'd call that one abuse 19:13 <@Dagmar> ...because it's goddamn rare that the BUTTHOLE SURFERS are playing anywhere 19:13 <@Dagmar> *soawesome* 19:13 <+VampirePenguin> okay than its current events 19:15 <+VampirePenguin> basically $60 ticket 19:15 <+VampirePenguin> not bad 19:15 <+VampirePenguin> better than miley cyrus for $1000 19:16 <+VampirePenguin> she came out to az 2x and ppl were not paying mortgages so their kids could go see her 19:17 <@NotLarry> ok, the theme for phreaknic 15 has been agreed upon "Phreaknic 15, keep notlarry drunk." 19:17 <@Lissa> lol 19:18 <+VampirePenguin> that follows this yrs them of being an adult 19:18 <@NotLarry> exactly 19:19 <@NotLarry> finally, someone who can keep up. 19:19 <@NotLarry> the talk will be just before des's drnkn rant. 19:37 <@NotLarry> 19:40 <+VampirePenguin> http://www.wpsantennas.com/ZDAGP2600-15-13-clear-sprint-xohm-wimax-grid-parabolic-antenna.aspx 19:40 <+VampirePenguin> oh i think i found my booster 19:54 -!- stowbari [~Jon@adsl-70-228-77-122.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #se2600 19:54 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 19:59 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 20:02 -!- dashslot [~yaaic@251.sub-72-126-133.myvzw.com] has joined #se2600 20:05 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@c-174-51-24-240.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [] 20:07 -!- dashslot [~yaaic@251.sub-72-126-133.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: I'm outie 5000! 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Get stickers, etc... ready 20:36 <@NotLarry> ARGGGGGG 20:36 <@NotLarry> ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGgggg 20:36 <@NotLarry> what? 20:36 <@NotLarry> nvm 20:37 <@Lissa> hahahaa 20:37 <@Lissa> are you driving yourself crazy? 20:37 <@Lissa> and i'm a poor college student. there is no way i'm going to defcon :P 20:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 21:14 <+Coder[afk]> llawl 21:45 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@c-68-52-189-50.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:45 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@c-68-52-189-50.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 21:45 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 21:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 21:56 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 22:00 <@NotLarry> "that sandman is going to run" 22:02 <@NotLarry> and "there can be only one" 22:04 <@NotLarry> "in the end, as in the begining, it is trancient, it is but a mote in God's eye" 22:06 <@NotLarry> "renew: 22:06 <@NotLarry> ? 22:06 <@NotLarry> " 22:07 <@NotLarry> CQ, CQ 22:07 <@Dagmar> No. 22:07 < Mercster> NotLarry is scaring me :( 22:08 <@NotLarry> mv Dagmar > null 22:08 <@NotLarry> your just now scared? 22:08 <@Dagmar> Man I can't believe the tards from /v/ 22:08 <@NotLarry> cp 0 22:08 <@Dagmar> Fucking lame shit 22:08 <@Sheath> what 22:08 <@NotLarry> cp -r dagmar.backup /home/dagmar 22:08 <@Dagmar> Apparently they were behind a DDoS on Minecraft last week 22:09 <@Dagmar> ...because they want him to release regular updates insteadf of the big update on the 31st 22:09 <@Dagmar> Dumbass kids 22:09 <@NotLarry> du'mas, is french 22:10 <@Dagmar> Of all the stupid shit one can do with a botnet, they throw a virtual tantrum 22:10 <@Dagmar> If they want to start some shit, they should be taking potshots at RBN 22:12 <@Dagmar> I s'pose it's a good example of why they can't hack it in /b/ 22:13 <@Sheath> what is /v/ 22:13 -!- VampirePenguin [~vp@unaffiliated/vampirepenguin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:13 <@Dagmar> Yet Another 4-Chan Group 22:33 <@ware> w00t 22:33 <@ware> w00t 22:33 <@ware> w00t 22:33 <@ware> ___ ___ _ 22:33 <@ware> __ __/ _ \ / _ \| |_ 22:33 <@ware> \ \ /\ / / | | | | | | __| 22:33 <@ware> \ V V /| |_| | |_| | |_ 22:33 <@ware> \_/\_/ \___/ \___/ \__| 22:33 <@ware> 22:35 <@ShadowHntr> i got back my gfx card from xfx today 22:35 <@ShadowHntr> i sent in my geforce 8800 gs for an rma 22:36 <@ShadowHntr> and they sent me a radeon hd 5670 22:38 <@Sheath> nice blog 22:38 <@Sheath> keep us updated and informed on this important issue 23:08 -!- maverickbna [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 23:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maverickbna] by ChanServ 23:08 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:10 -!- Netwalk3r [~sentinel@c-68-52-189-50.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:13 -!- maverickbna [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:14 -!- Netwalk3r is now known as ShadowHntr 23:14 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@c-68-52-189-50.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:14 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 23:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 23:15 -!- ShadowHntr [~sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Quit: *sneeze*] 23:17 <@NotLarry> oh fuck 23:19 <@Lissa> right now? 23:26 < juice> hrm 23:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o juice] by ChanServ 23:31 -!- Coder[afk] is now known as Coder_ 23:31 -!- Coder_ is now known as Coder__ 23:31 -!- Coder__ is now known as Coder365 23:42 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-169-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:45 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-169-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:45 -!- stowbari [~Jon@adsl-70-228-77-122.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mog] by ChanServ --- Log closed Sun Oct 24 00:00:44 2010