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01:10 <@Dagmar> Looks like I've outsmarted myself again
01:10 <@Dagmar> I thought I'd lost the two CD keys I have for Win7 Professional, so I wouldn't be able to rebuild those test VMs...
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01:11 <@Dagmar> Turns out I printed up CD labels with the serials on them.
01:11 <@Dagmar> Yay for searching my everything looking for that
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10:03 <@ware> lulz
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10:33 < VampirePenguin> hey polerin i just saw you like tarot
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11:04 <@ware> http://i.imgur.com/Ld5pA.jpg
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11:25 <@ShadowHntr> sup ware
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11:57 <@ware> ShadowHntr: wassa
12:44 <@Dagmar> ware: You ready to figure out what kinda mayhem can be leveraged against a MC server this weekend?
12:44 <@ShadowHntr> no ddosing plz
12:46 <@Dagmar> ShadowHntr: Do you even know what I'm talking about?
12:46 <@ShadowHntr> no clue.
12:46 <@Dagmar> Minecraft
12:46 <@ShadowHntr> i've heard about this game
12:46 <@Dagmar> So... 1. No DDoS necessary, and 2. remember I was doing DDoS before people even called it that, so don't expect me to take a lazy-mode solution like that to anything
12:47 <@Dagmar> ShadowHntr: The server is a hurried kludge (yay) incredibly trusting, and uses a really simple protocol
12:47 <@ShadowHntr> so you want to fuck with it :P
12:48 <@Dagmar> It's a pretty good target for easy-mode hacking.  The thing is even in obfuscated Java
12:48 <@Dagmar> ShadowHntr: Actually, I like playing it.  I want to fuck with it because I see the potential for absurdity in it
12:49 <@Dagmar> Kinda scribbling together a protocol interceptor in perl
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12:56 <@Dagmar> There acutally appear to be a few ways to drive someone playing it mad, without overtly pissing off the server
12:56 <@Dagmar> Someone near you may be placing blocks building something
12:56 <@Dagmar> The server doesn't really check your location very well about some things
12:56 <@Dagmar> ...so it look slike it's possible to automatiically issue a despawn on each block so it looks like what they're doing just isn't sticking.
12:56 < pierut> O_o
13:00 <@ShadowHntr> lol
13:03 <@Dagmar> Very much not looking to engage in massive levels of tearing-peoples-shit-down griefing tho.  There's plenty of ways to do that to folks manually and all kindsa of retards doin git
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13:08 <@Dagmar> I also hope to figure out how to kill people.
13:11 <@Dagmar> jnwhiteh: Easy solution to that.  tell them outright "need more infoz" and leave it at that
13:13 < pierut> what server do you guys use
13:14 < pierut> i bought minecraft the other day =s
13:14 <@Dagmar> Ahhh
13:15 <@ShadowHntr> damn i hate the dead time waiting to hear back from recruiters after they've submitted you for positions :P
13:16 <@Dagmar> pierut: Talk to ware.  He's running a server.  I gotta put more RAM in the box I'm using before I think about it, and I'm still busy mucking about with the admin tools
13:16 <@Dagmar> Mainly we're just goofing off until the 31st when hopefully SMP damage will actualy go in
13:17 <@ware> morning
13:17 < pierut> yar
13:17 <@ware> i killed ours, goto ackis.in.the.narro.ws to play now
13:17 < pierut> hi
13:17 <@Dagmar> "killed"?
13:17 < pierut> that's where i have been playing
13:17 < pierut> ;s
13:17 <@ware> (files still on phneak, i just stopped it)
13:18 < pierut> i made a space invader and pacman
13:18 <@Dagmar> Waitaminit... _Ackis_?
13:18 <@ware> its taking up a lot of resources which is why i stopped it
13:18 <@ware> but
13:18 <@ware> i will start it up again for now
13:18 <@Dagmar> ware: lol it does suck down some RAMS
13:18 <@ware> Dagmar: yeah thats brimstone's
13:18 <@ware> its got memory leaks n crap
13:18 <@ware> does a god awful lot of disk io
13:18 <@ware> just a crap ass program lol
13:18 <@Dagmar> ware: Tey shoudln't be able to go beyond the 1M container limit set at startup
13:18 <@Dagmar> er 1G
13:19 <@ware> it just needs to be redone
13:19 <@ware> i love the concept but java is not for it
13:19 < pierut> bbiab
13:19 <@ware> 2010-10-13 13:19:27 [INFO] Preparing level "world"
13:19 <@ware> 2010-10-13 13:19:27 [INFO] Preparing start region
13:19 <@ware> its up now pierut
13:19 <@Dagmar> Well, the protocol is pretty straightforward
13:19 <@ware> brimstone needs to put the runescape mod on there
13:20 <@brimstone> *runecraft
13:20 <@ware> yeah whatev
13:20 <@Dagmar> hehew
13:20 <@ware> you know what i meeeen
13:20 <@Dagmar> the runescape mod makes immediately gives all players brain damage
13:21 <@Dagmar> The goddamn trees haev more complexity to their codew than I thought
13:21 <@Dagmar> They definitely don't mind being on a 1 block thick strip of land, but it turns out my policy of cutting the short ones was the right thing to be doing
13:22 <@Dagmar> When you plant a sapling, it'll sit there and turn into a tree or not based on whetther or not anything is over it (for six squares it must be empty)... but it decides *then* when it takes root what kind of tree it'll be
13:22 <@Dagmar> Looks like they come in small, shrubby type, medium height type, and OMGLARGE
13:23 <@Dagmar> I'd been cutting the short ones and replanting and winding up with forests big enough to climb up and move into
13:25 <@Dagmar> I should just plow through the code and look at it, but it's been more amusing to fuck up the ground in various ways, plant some saplings, and see what happens
13:25 <@Dagmar> ...mainly because it's funny to turn your back for a moment, then turn around, and see OMGTREES where there was nothing just a minute ago
13:27 <@Dagmar> Fucking GEEKs
13:27 <@Dagmar> Holy shit http://ackis.in.the.narro.ws/ is hilarious
13:29 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling I may have some catching up to do
13:30 <@Dagmar> Maybe I should finish that init script for the server so I won't feel quite so outdone
13:30 <@Dagmar> heh
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13:35 <@ware> Dagmar: you coming to ChairCon 2010 this weekend?
13:35 <@Dagmar> WHere's that at?
13:37 <@ware> Days Inn
13:37 <@ware> 7th floor
13:37 <@ware> time TBA
13:37 <@Dagmar> I think I'll probably be able to manage that heh
13:37 <@ware> :P
13:37 <@Dagmar> I made my reservations last night, on the *smoking* floor
13:37 <@ware> is that 3rd?
13:38 <@ware> i remember someone having a smoking room
13:38 <@ShadowHntr> anyone want to trade an IBM xSeries 330 chassis and mainboard for admission and a place to crash friday night at the con? :)
13:38 <@ware> ^- lol
13:38 <@ware> im not getting a room this year
13:38 <@Dagmar> Second floor is the smoking floor
13:40 <@ware> gotcha
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14:06 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: http://wilpig.org/temp/WoW/WoWScrnShot_101310_125745.jpg
14:06 <@Evilpig> about to transfer to boulderfist with all my old nocturn folks
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14:15 <@Dagmar> evilpig: How the hell did you get so many tickbirds?
14:15 <@Dagmar> I don't see whatever else it is I'm supposed ot be seeing in those screenshots
14:17  * VampirePenguin sees candy in boxes
14:17 <@Dagmar> I suppose when I get home I should go talk to the oracles about some eggs
14:23 <@Evilpig> just moving that much shit from two servers to one.
14:23 <@Evilpig> most of it is mats.  some of it I keep to sell when I need money
14:23 <@Evilpig> hte bad part of the tickbirds is I have two more bags full of them someplace
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14:28 < aestetix> word
14:29 < aestetix> ok who do I get to crash with
14:31 < Mercster> aestetix: me again
14:31 < aestetix> Mercster: I assume you have two beds
14:31 < Mercster> nope :)
14:31 < aestetix> sides, I doubt you could handle me ;)
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14:47 <@Evilpig> stupid mario and his kart.  99.9%
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15:00 <@ware> lol
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17:49 <@Dagmar> Oh thank god
17:49 <@Dagmar> I was just looking at http://ackis.in.the.narro.ws/ and realized the street view guy icon was there
17:49 <@Dagmar> I was going to be really pissed if that actually worked lol
17:49 <@Dagmar> The Google Maps API is crazy enough
18:09 <@brimstone> man, if that really worked
18:11 < Mercster> my goodness
18:11 < Mercster> thank God these chilean miners seem to be safe
18:12 < Mercster> could have gone many other ways
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19:53 < pierut> i'd thank the rescuers first.
20:02 <@ShadowHntr> holy shit
20:02 <@ShadowHntr> i got a call this morning from a recruiter
20:02 <@ShadowHntr> for a position on my old team with IBM Global Services
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20:33 < Mercster> mmkay
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22:37 <@sasquatc4> http://www.eatliver.com/i.php?n=6266
22:47 <@Dagmar> Ehmm... No.
22:49 <@Dagmar> This is much better, btw http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20019411-261.html
22:49 <@Dagmar> It's downright hilarious, actually
22:49 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure they've done it because of that bullshit that went down with Craigslist, at least in part
22:50 <@Dagmar> ...because if Google provided the assistance the RIAA wanted for free, there would be no end to it, and eventually the RIAA would sue Google claiming contributory infringement
22:51 <@Dagmar> ...but if Google says "Fucking PAY US" the RIAA doesn't have a relationship to extend and extend and extend, they have a business agreement
22:51 <@Dagmar> The RIAA would not be able to turn around and say "YOU ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO STOP PIRACY" without first saying "WE ARE NOT PAYING YOU ENOUGH TO HELP STOP PIRACY"
22:51 <@Dagmar> lols
22:52 <@Dagmar> THat's the fucking trap Craiglist fell into.  THey did their level best to stop the hookers and pimps, helped law enforcement endlessly, etc etc, and some Attorneys General decided it wasn't enough because there was no formal agreement in place
22:54 <@Dagmar> ...so they burned Craigslist by making a bunch of nonsense claims that Craigslist wasn't, in fact, doing enough, and was doing not much at all, while ignoring that there are *FAR* more egregious offenders who have done very little to help law enforcement, like Backpage.com for instance
22:54 <@Dagmar> That's good shit they pulled there, telling them it'll cost ya
22:54 <@Dagmar> :)
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