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01:46 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-home: i'm up now and need those updates
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02:20 <@Dagmar> Something is frelled
02:21 <@Evilpig> how so?
02:22 <@Dagmar> I can reach um, about half the internet
02:23 <@Evilpig> comcast too
02:23 <@Evilpig> ?
02:23 <@Evilpig> i'm seeinig some strangeness here as well
02:23 <@Evilpig> even my irc timed out while I could get to mmo-champion easily
02:23 <@Dagmar> Yes.  This is weird.
02:24 <@Dagmar> Nightmare scenario: Someone's pissed about the sabotuer worm and is doing something to "strike back" at the internet.
02:24 <@Dagmar> So long as it's not that I'll be happy
02:24 <@Dagmar> I'm seeing just lots of weird dns failures
02:25 <@Evilpig> more than likely comcast has a fucked up route again somewhere
02:25 < Mercster> yeah ive been having comcast problems too
02:25 <@Dagmar> Probably something BGP related if they did
02:25 < Mercster> was havin g a hard time ssh'ing to my irc host
02:25 <@Dagmar> Cuz like, one minute something will work, the next minute, traceroutes fail halfway to it
02:25 <@Dagmar> Epic route flapping?
02:26 <@Evilpig> it isn't like comcast doesn't have a history of this kind of nonsense
02:26 <@Evilpig> thinking backto when BC first came out and seeing half of my raid disappear cause they were on comcaast
02:26 <@Dagmar> I was always lucky on that front
02:27 <@Dagmar> ...although I paid my dues with that dog peeing on the amp every morning in early am
02:27 < Mercster> :|
02:27 <@Evilpig> just asked on another channel.  but I think most of them are asleep right now
02:28 <@Dagmar> I actually had to sit out there in the buggering cold one morning and just *watch* to see what must be happening
02:28 <@Dagmar> same here.  All the other channels I'm in are dead.
02:28 <@Dagmar> I was just looking into decompiling bits of Minecraft to maybe see about fixing a few things
02:28 <@Dagmar> ...then *whoomp* half the internet goes away
02:29 <@Evilpig> my torrent channel is often lively around 3am but half of them are around the globe
02:29 < Mercster> yeah there was just a blip
02:29 < Mercster> seems ok now tho
02:29 <@Evilpig> bah.  I need to schedule a change at work.  i'll do that tomorrow after I get there
02:31 <@Evilpig> 02:30 < Zimnick> wilpig: yea, it was bad
02:31 <@Evilpig> 02:30 < Zimnick> fixed for now though
02:36 < Mercster> i wanna be a livin' legend
02:36 < Mercster> cuz im a riiiiiidah
02:36 < Mercster> death to you playa hataz
02:36 < Mercster> dont let me fiiiiind ya
02:41 < Mercster> its west side
02:41 < Mercster> DEATH ROW
02:41 < Mercster> thuuuuug niggaz on the rise!
02:41 < Mercster> busta shot me five TIMES
02:41 < Mercster> REAL NIGGAZ DONT DIE
03:21 < fie> yo dog
03:21 < fie> why you be trippin
03:22 < fie> Dagmar, shakalakashakalaka whoomp!
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03:45 < fie> hi
03:47 < pierut> sup
03:52 < fie> crack cocaine
03:53 < pierut> ew
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10:04 <@Scort> Mmm bikes
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13:52 <@Dagmar> Ladies (yeah, right) and Gentlemen today is a very auspicious day...
13:52 <@Dagmar> For today, more than any other day that has come before, we are in the presence of EPIC FAIL.
13:52 <@Dagmar> http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/9/24/amd-offers-dating-tips-women/
14:15 < Gerdesas> heh
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16:04 <@Dagmar> You know, it occurs to me, that this Achmedinijad guy has a certain kind of face
16:04 <@Dagmar> The kind of face that would probably look pretty good on a few shemale porn models
16:04 <@Dagmar> It's time we just make a meme out of humiliating that fucktard
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17:06 <@Dagmar> WOW.
17:06 <@Dagmar> http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ten-minute-demo-bioshock-infinite/704932
17:42 < aestetix> www.6fuc.com
17:42 < aestetix> This is going to be fun
18:09 < pierut> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76YbAfFfJ8
18:10 < pierut> \o/
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18:54 <@Dagmar> lol
18:55 <@Dagmar> Someone on CL's forum has posted a somewhat histrionic thread freaking out about what might happen to Ubuntu since GNOME 3 will require 3D support
18:55 <@Dagmar> ...because that means it'll require proprietary drivers.
18:56 <@Dagmar> Whoop-de-do.  Like people don't just click the "install the restricted drivers... I WANT SHINY NAO" button the moment it appears
18:57 <@ShadowHntr> this is the same thing that pisses me off about debian's whole "if it's not gpl we can't have it, even if their license is osi compliant"
18:58 <@ShadowHntr> iceweasel case-in-point. WTF is that?
18:58 <@ShadowHntr> :P
19:04 <@Dagmar> They want GPL-only.  It's their right.  Everyone who wants to get stuff done uses Ubuntu.
19:04 <@Dagmar> It's not like they can't just cherry-pick any fixes Ubuntu happens to come up with
19:05 <@Dagmar> They get the benefit of the GPL and open source, with no risk of annoying lawsuits from shithead IP trolls.
19:06 <@ShadowHntr> i'm not arguing, i just wish they made that philosophy more obvious.
19:08 <@Dagmar> o.O
19:08 <@Dagmar> Literally the second link on debian's site is for http://www.debian.org/social_contract
19:08 <@Dagmar> Bullet point #1 on that page: "We provide the guidelines that we use to determine if a work is "free" in the document entitled "The Debian Free Software Guidelines". We promise that the Debian system and all its components will be free according to these guidelines. We will support people who create or use both free and non-free works on Debian. We will never make the system require the use of a non-free component.
19:08 <@Dagmar> It doesn't get much clearer
19:29 <@ShadowHntr> never mind
19:31 <@Dagmar> BTW, I wasn't joking about earlier with the Ahmadinejad thing
19:32 <@Dagmar> later tonight I'll probably go find some pics of him, and then some tranny port, and start some photomanipulation work to publish in time for the monday morning news cycle
19:32 <@Dagmar> s/port/porn/;
19:33 <@Dagmar> They're watching the internet now because of Stuxnet.  It's time for us to show them something good to see.  :)
19:46 < pierut> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoKtJOWFScA
19:46 < pierut> :D
19:53 <@Dagmar> wow
19:53 <@Dagmar> www.controlcatodor.com has a commercial that needs help
19:54 < pierut> as seeb ib tv?!
19:54 < pierut> does billy mays have a deal for me?!
19:54 < pierut> :p
19:54 <@Dagmar> It's cool that they can make corn into cat litter (I *think*) but perhaps they shoudn't take a beaker full of corn and each take a kernel out and pop it in their mouths while they're talking about it
19:54 < pierut> haha
19:54 <@Dagmar> Kinda looks like they're eating kitty litter
19:54 < pierut> wtf xD
19:54 < Mercster> mmm
19:55 < pierut> could you call that... poop corn
19:55 < pierut> buh dum psh
19:55 <@Dagmar> Heheh ah do b'lieve you could call it that
19:55  * Mercster growns
20:15  * Lissa sighs
20:15 < Lissa> dag...seriously not cool on the trans stuff.
20:16 < Mercster> ...
20:17 < Lissa> i know it doesn't concern you and you probably don't care about the cultural sensitivity, but geez.
20:18 < Mercster> Lissa: have you ever considered that the world is not your personal cheering section and that people are allowed to voice their opinions, whether it be in the form of satire, jokes, "social commentary", or plain old free speech?
20:18 < Lissa> the guy is a dick and deserves what is coming to him, but using trans people to procure a lolz...not cool
20:18 < Lissa> Mercster...shut up. i was NOT talking to you.
20:18 < Mercster> burning the koran is legal, and so is laughing at trannies
20:18 < Mercster> get over it
20:19 < Lissa> no..that's MY free speech...i don't have to get over it
20:19 < Mercster> get over yourself while you're at it
20:20 < Lissa> k.
20:20 < Mercster> just some free advice, of course i understand that some people's favorite hobby is to get as offended as possible at every turn
20:20 < Mercster> doesnt sound like a satisfying way to live, that's all
20:21 < Lissa> well..i am not in the mood to argue with a troll baiting fuck nugget...so...*shrug*
20:21 < Mercster> k
20:23 <@Dagmar> I think you've got it all wrong
20:24 <@Dagmar> Ther'es a difference between being in transition, and moving to Thailand to be revered as a ladyboy, and there's a whole nother world of difference again from doing a bunch of depraved hardcore porn shoots
20:24 <@Dagmar> The important thing here isn't who may or may not feel impugned by proxy
20:25 <@Dagmar> The important thing here is that there needs to be a lot more demented, depraved porno featuring the ruler of a country who had the audacity to claim that there were no gay people in his country.
20:25 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm thinking the absolute best thing will be for that porn to be as humiliating as possible to him.
20:26 <@Dagmar> WHo knows, maybe he secretly wants to know what he looks like with a twelve inch cock halfway up his ass while he munches on a nine-inch dildo
20:26 <@Dagmar> We should help him out
20:26 < Lissa> i will respond when i get home...don't have enough time to do it on my phone in the car
20:27 < Mercster> think of some zingers in the meantime
20:28 <@Dagmar> If it were entirely that bad of a thing, _they wouldn't be doing photo shoots_
20:28 < Lissa> no zingers...just some info for consideration
20:28 <@Dagmar> Don't get all excited because someone, somewhere in the world does something you don't grok
20:28 <@Dagmar> It ain't about you, it's about humiliating dictators
20:29 <@Dagmar> It just happens to be that this seems like the thing that would be the _most_ humiliating to him
20:29 <@Dagmar> Technically, he'd be in just as much shit with Sharia if it were a hetero porn orgy he was starring in, but they have a bit of a double-standard there
20:30 < Mercster> how about just insulting mohammad and converting to judaism
20:30 < Lissa> so...technically, you're saying it is humiliating to be trans?
20:30 < Mercster> Lissa: i think so. different strokes for different folks
20:32 < Mercster> but you know what, im probably a closet homosexual
20:40 < polerin> Dagmar: it may not be about me, but it contributes to a prevailing worldview that trans women are dirty, perverted, and should be objects of ridicule.  that same worldview is the shit i have to live with, and that makes lissa's life difficult as the wife of a trans woman
20:40 <@Dagmar> No, I'm sayng it's humiliating to be the chief dictator of a middle eastern nation and having a ladyboy shoving a twelve-inch cock up your ass.
20:41 <@Dagmar> Let's get shit straight here
20:41 < polerin> the things you do have repercussions
20:41 < Mercster> Dagmar: you cant win, you didnt portray LGBTMNOP in a 100% positive light
20:41 <@Dagmar> You are both looking at the situation from only one side
20:42 <@Dagmar> Mercster: Let's be honest.  Every person in this channel, regardless of orientation, would probably fuck Ahamadinejad in the ass in the most violent and degrading way possible if we got the chance.
20:43 < Mercster> mm, id just kick his ass. but hye, whatever turns your crank
20:43 < Mercster> s/hye/hey
20:43 <@Dagmar> Kicking his ass woulnd't humiliate him enough
20:43 < polerin> the side that says "what you are doing has ripples outside of you intent"?
20:43 < Mercster> i know what you're saying, since he and other hardline muslims believe that being a tranny is humiliating, it would be a fitting punishment for him
20:43 < polerin> Dagmar: for once i agree with merc
20:44 < Mercster> polerin and Lissa should be angry as muslims, not you
20:44 < polerin> i want no part of that man's ass
20:44 < Mercster> s/as/at
20:44 < Mercster> dont be as angry as muslims, that'd be bad
20:44 <@Dagmar> Sometimes you have to take one for the team
20:44 <@Dagmar> ...or give one.
20:44 < polerin> Mercster: actually iran has relitively progressive laws RE trans women
20:45 <@Dagmar> It's just non-trans women they stone to death for bullshit
20:45 < Mercster> polerin: and they'll stone you for insulting islam or having an affair
20:45 < Mercster> polerin: so have fun with that
20:45 <@Dagmar> That's completely reasonable.
20:45 <@Dagmar> Running your own shit your own way is one thing.  Mahmoud goes way beyond that into trying to tell a whole lot of other people how to run their shit
20:46 <@Dagmar> Kidnapping hikers...
20:46 <@Dagmar> Repeatedly threatening unthinkable acts of genocide against his neighbors...
20:46 < Mercster> only in america do you have the freedom to be such a hemmorhoid on the ass of society by demanding that your predilections and personal tastes be accepted by *everyone*
20:46 < Mercster> id stick with america if i were you
20:47 < Mercster> you seem to think being offensive is a capital crime
20:47 < polerin> oh no, they'll stone me for being a dyke, but they are fine with me being trans
20:47 < Mercster> many places in the world would happily agree with you
20:47 < polerin> **sigh**
20:47 < Mercster> they'd also be ass to live in
20:47 < Mercster> but hey
20:47 < polerin> anyway dinner time.
20:47 <@Dagmar> Not "just" stone.
20:47 < Mercster> have fun
20:47 <@Dagmar> Stone _to death_
20:47 < Gerdesas> A fitting punishment would be to have RMS force himself on him.  The stink alone would be enough to make him consider joining Allah at an earlier date.
20:47 < Mercster> Gerdesas: hahaaaaaaaaaaaa
20:47 <@Dagmar> Dragging someone behind a truck is faster
20:47 < polerin> dag, please do me a favor and don't do this.  it would mean a bunch to me.
20:47 < Mercster> let's all agree and rally around an RMS joke, it brings us together
20:48 < Mercster> let's face it, noone likes RMS
20:48 < polerin> this isn't a theoretical offense, it would be really hurtful if you do it.
20:48 <@Dagmar> polerin: We'll see if I can think of anything to push it farther over the top, but rest assured that the one doing the ramming will appear to be having the time of their life
20:48 <@Dagmar> ...as will Mahmoud
20:49 <@Dagmar> Maybe I was unclear, but the idea is generally to be very hurtful
20:49 < Mercster> polerin: whats for dinner?
20:50 <@Dagmar> If I could broadcast it over the airwaves there, it wouldn't have the same effect
20:51 <@Dagmar> It would have immediate effect and probably make him have a buncha people killed, however, the guy has to have enemies and a loss of face is pretty serious shit to arabs
20:51 < Mercster> ahmedinijad is not arabic
20:51 < Mercster> he's persian
20:51 <@Dagmar> Way easier and more pervasive to think up a way to weaponize a meme of humiliation
20:52 < Mercster> persians hate being called arabs
20:52 <@Dagmar> Mercster: Oh, I'm sorry, that means he must completely not be into the same one-upsmanship shit that I've seen out of practically everyone from that region
20:52 < Mercster> well he's in the "middle east"
20:52 < Mercster> you can make that connection
20:52 <@Dagmar> Yeah I cna
20:52 < Mercster> i dont care, call him an arab if you want
20:53 < Gerdesas> Can I call him a cunt?
20:53 < Mercster> im just saying, persians go apeshit when you call them arab
20:53 < Mercster> call him whatever you like :)
20:53 <@Dagmar> I can also make the connection that whether or not he's an "arab" or he's a "persian" doesn't fucking matter
20:53 < Gerdesas> Because, frankly, I can't think of anything worse.
20:54 <@Dagmar> I mean, I could probably work in a tattoo somewhere saying "arabian paradise" in the form of a tramp stamp, but that strikes me as something that would make it ring hollow
20:55 < Mercster> the best tattoo ive ever seen is on jackass's steve-o
20:55 <@Dagmar> Mercster: Anyway, you need to go back and read again
20:55 < Mercster> "your name here" on his ass
20:55 <@Dagmar> I never called him an arab
20:55 < Mercster> Dagmar: ok
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20:57 <@Dagmar> Mercster: If i wanted to bother Ahmadinijad directly, I'd just fucking mass email the embassy
20:57 <@Dagmar> The point of such an image is to undermine his authority in the eyes of _others_
20:58 <@Dagmar> Those guys are _very_ tied up in the idea of power being the ability to make other people put up with your shit, dig?
20:59 <@Dagmar> it's like rednecks and homophobia
20:59 <@Dagmar> It's the one thing you can _count_ on to really leveage their response
20:59 <@Dagmar> er leverage
20:59 <@Dagmar> If you want to make a redneck blow a gasket, the short form is to play on homophobia
21:00 < Gerdesas> well, that or a President with a really dark tan.
21:00 < Gerdesas> Around here I'd say it's a pretty close tie.
21:00 <@Dagmar> If you want to make an arab go bezerk, you make the implication that they have to be subservient to others
21:00  * Mercster looks to see whats on at 10pm
21:01 < Gerdesas> All flippancy aside, you're quite right in that statement Dagmar.
21:01 <@Dagmar> I've known a lot of middle eastern guys
21:02 <@Dagmar> It's a pretty hefty cultural theme they've got there
21:02 < Gerdesas> The whole "machismo" (sp?) thing is incredibly strong with middle easterners for the most part.
21:02 <@Dagmar> That would be a spanish word, for one thing
21:02 < Mercster> at the same time, man-boy relationships are more common in the middle east (mostly amongst arabic tribal peoples) than pretty much anywhere else in the world
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21:03 < Mercster> have you seen those pictures of afghani taliban posing in makeup for pictures?
21:03 < Mercster> lemme find it
21:03 < Gerdesas> Origin is pointless, it's what the word defines that matters.
21:04 < Mercster> http://www.utne.com/Media/Photographs-of-Taliban-Groomed-Affectionate-Guntzel.aspx
21:04 < Mercster> He also speaks of a .very strong homosexual tradition. in Afghanistan, .in which an older man will kind of adopt a young man and become a lover and teach him whatever skills he may have..
21:04 < Mercster> Though Taliban leader Mullah Omar banned homosexuality, Rashid explains, this tradition, particularly in Southern Afghanistan, .continued, but it was done surreptitiously..
21:06 <@Dagmar> Twinks.
21:08 < Mercster> its sort of like sparta
21:08 < Mercster> but with laundry-heads
21:08 <@Dagmar> hah
21:23 < pierut> does loving the smell of dryer sheets make me a laundry-head?
21:23 <@Dagmar> Could be
21:23 < pierut> and clean sheets
21:23 < pierut> omg sooo nice them clean sheets be
21:24  * pierut just got back from the bar
21:24 < pierut> i had one shot and one crown + coke
21:24 < pierut> MOAR
21:24 < Mercster> your work is not done, go back
21:24 < pierut> ill finish this night off with a nice cork filled wine
21:24 <@Dagmar> Mercster: Honestly I don't know if there's something we're missing but there's definitely a dichotomy there
21:24 < pierut> i know!
21:24 < Mercster> Dagmar: where?
21:24 < pierut> moooarrrr
21:25 <@Dagmar> To them, homosexuality is bad, but fucking little boys doesn't make you gay?
21:25 <@Dagmar> I have no idea how that's supposed to work
21:25 < pierut> no
21:25 < pierut> well
21:25 < pierut> idk
21:25 < pierut> but
21:25 < pierut> i hear it is about power or smthn
21:25 < pierut> rather than sexuality
21:25 < Mercster> Dagmar: ah, yeah, its some kind of cultural thing. if you have a young boy, its ok to fuck him in the ass. if you're a young boy, its ok to be fucked in the ass. but any other combination is verboten
21:25 <@Dagmar> pierut: I think they're in denial, personally
21:26 <@Dagmar> It's not like it's THAT damn difficult to get some kid to do what you want
21:26 < pierut> idk
21:26 < Mercster> if a grown man is fucked in the ass, it makes you a sissy
21:26 <@Dagmar> Certainly not enough to get wood over
21:26 < pierut> kids usually annoy the piss out of me and dont stop
21:26 < Mercster> but if you're a kid with a "mentor", its ok
21:26 <@Dagmar> Hell, here in the US as we all know it's pretty hard to go lower on the totem pole than buggering little boys
21:27 < Mercster> well, you can thank the Bible for that
21:27 < Mercster> modern western civilization is based on the Bible
21:27 < Mercster> and fucking kids is never ok
21:28 < Gerdesas> Unless you're a catholic priest.
21:28 < Mercster> well, i wont even go into that.
21:29 < Mercster> that's another issue
21:34 < pierut> D=
21:34  * pierut runs to bathroom while pausing momentarily to type that he is.
21:34 < Mercster> you are what you is
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21:49 < pierut> i yam what i yam
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22:01 <@Dagmar> wheeee fun
22:01 <@Dagmar> I hate to say it but I love it when something blows up and takes out power to buildings no one's using
22:17 <@Dagmar> Unrelated: LOL minecraft.net is down for the count again
22:17 <@Dagmar> I suspect the server has crashed under the oppressive weight of all that money
22:59 <@sdodson> someone was telling me about miecraft.net
23:00 < Mercster> i farted and it smells bad :(
23:01 <@sdodson> New priest garb "I'm not gay but my altar boy is"
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23:11 < Mercster> http://onepeople.org/files/pretty-taliban.png
23:19 <@sdodson> Mercster: your mom?
23:19 < Gerdesas> heh
23:25 <@Dagmar> Damnit.  Without the Minecraft auth server I can't get freaking binary chunks needed
23:30 <@sdodson> uhoh, what will you do?!
23:34 < Mercster> sdodson: you're an idiot
23:34 <@sdodson> Mercster: probably, what makes you say it just now though?
23:35 < Mercster> sdodson: it came to me as your lame-ass "mom joke" failed
23:36 < Mercster> like a revelation
23:36 < Mercster> i thought to myself "wow, sdodson is an idiot"
23:36 <@sdodson> I think it was a smashing success.
23:37 <@sdodson> Are banana peels actually slippery?
23:37 < Mercster> as an idiot, do you think you're in a position to decide what is a smashing success or not?
23:38 <@Dagmar> Ah just fucking /ignore his ass.  All he does is try to shit on everything anyone else likes.  It's just not worth wasting your time
23:38 < Mercster> who, me or sdodson
23:38 <@Dagmar> Mercster: Well, I've had sdodson on perma-ignore for over a year now, so take a guess.
23:39 < Mercster> ah he's alright
23:39 < Mercster> he's just not funny
23:39 <@sdodson> That's not true. He's only been ignoring me for 3 months and 17 days.
23:39 <@Dagmar> This on the other hand... http://failblog.org/2010/09/24/epic-fail-photos-ride-design-fail-2/ is hilarious.
23:40 < Mercster> welcome to europe
23:41 <@Dagmar> Oh I know who Obelix is, it's just *still* funny
23:42 <@Dagmar> Goatse probably didn't exist when they built that, but there's a degree to which some memes override everything, like too much paprika
23:43 < Mercster> i didnt mean to imply you didnt know who Obelix is, i meant to imply that europeans love living in a giant ass
23:43 < Mercster> in high school french class we watched obelix cartoons
23:43 <@sdodson> Mercster: why'd you take french?
23:44 < Mercster> because in 8th grade i was selected for a special "advanced kid" program to take 1st year french
23:44 < Mercster> so when i got to high school i took french because i already knew it
23:44 <@Dagmar> hehe because clearly french is too hard for anyone but geniuses
23:45 <@sdodson> I was advanced, now I'm not so sure.
23:45 < Mercster> not really, it just happened to be the language that was offered
23:45 < Mercster> "oh you scored high on tests, wanna take french?"
23:45 <@sdodson> Oh, and if anyone tries to sell you on Software As A Service, punch them in the ear.
23:46 < Mercster> sounded better than whatever else i was supposed to do
23:46 <@Dagmar> Quite deranged.  :)
23:46 < Mercster> i ended up taking a total of 4 years of french...failed french 1, passed french 1, failed french 2, passed french 2
23:46 < Mercster> so in the end i spent 4 years of french but only got up to french 2
23:47 < Mercster> later in life, i learned that france sucks
23:47 < Mercster> so i regret the time spent
23:48 < Mercster> all i can remember is "je ne comprend francais"
23:48 < Mercster> wait, je ne comprend pas francais
23:49 < Mercster> who knows
23:49 < Mercster> france sucks and french sucks
23:49 <@Dagmar> I think that perhaps they'll get the gist.  ;)
23:49 < Mercster> i shoulda taken spanish
23:49 <@Dagmar> Se hable aespanol
23:49 <@Dagmar> Of course, I can't fucking TYPE it to save my life
23:50 <@Dagmar> Sadly, I learned Spanish more effectively watching Xuxa prance around
23:50 <@Dagmar> I had Spanish in high school, and I did okay at it but it was still a struggle.
23:50 <@Dagmar> In Cali, we learned about SABADO GIGANTE!
23:50 <@sdodson> I was great with spanish when I worked at walmart and always talked to the night stock crew.
23:51 <@Dagmar> Spanish-speaking people have a whole 'nother idea about what constitutes acceptable dress on kids' shows.
23:51 <@Dagmar> :)
23:51 <@Dagmar> If I was up at that time on a Saturday morning, I watched it.
23:52 < Mercster> one thing i was good at with french was the pronunciation
23:52 <@Dagmar> Came back here and needed to ask some messicans outside the Kroger one night something and discovered that somehow I knew more than enough spanish to get by
23:52 < Mercster> i can pretty easily adopt a reasonable french accent
23:52 <@Dagmar> I was like "When the FUCK did I learn that much Spanish?"
23:52 < Mercster> what i sucked at was figuring out all the verb conjugation and remembering vocabulary words
23:53 <@Dagmar> A year's worth of kids' programming hosted by a chick in hot leather catsuits... You can learn quite a bit that way actually.
23:53 < Mercster> which is actually more difficult in english, but, i know english well enough not to have to remember rules about it
23:53 < Mercster> ive always been good at english
23:53 <@Dagmar> I'm still half tempted to have the PVR record it for me, but I'm pretty sure Opheria would have something to say about that
23:53 < Mercster> just an in-born ability
23:53 <@Dagmar> "But baby, I'm working on my Spanish!"
23:53 < Mercster> what im *really* bad at is math
23:54 < Mercster> i was always better at language than mathematics
23:54 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty decent at math, which means of course that I loathe it
23:54 <@sdodson> calculus = debil
23:54 < Mercster> well i can appreciate the beauty of a succinct mathematical formula
23:55 < Mercster> i just cant do it
23:55 <@Dagmar> Think of it like this: Every further simplifications makes this less of a pain in the ass to use
23:55 < Mercster> sure
23:55 <@Dagmar> ...and without a direct application, most math is meaningless to most people.
23:56 < Mercster> i just never learned the steps, and my study habits were so poor that i never got a handle on it
23:56 <@Dagmar> I had the advantage in college that I was working on a 3D rendering program while I was doing trig
23:56 < Mercster> numbers bother me
23:56 < Mercster> words? i can write you a novel
23:56 < Mercster> but when it comes to numbers, i become a waterhead
23:57 < Mercster> i think thats why i was good at UNIX systems administration
23:57 < Mercster> i think it's closely related to thingslike vocabulary, syntax
23:57 <@Dagmar> Aye
23:58 < Mercster> i could never be a programmer
23:58 < Mercster> too much math
23:58 < Mercster> but i can sysadmin like a motherfucker
23:58 < Mercster> i think its related to grammar
23:59 < Mercster> well, and problem solving skills
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