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00:39 <@ware> Dagmar: is it free?\
00:39 <@ware> i couldnt get it working
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00:41 <@Dagmar> ware: Classic is free, but he's got that sort of hidden at the moment so you'll have to dig for it.
00:41 <@Dagmar> He has been getting POUNDED with people buying the game
00:41 <@Dagmar> Remember, this is the dude that Slashdot had a story on a few weeks ago about the poor game dev who had mean old Paypal lock him out of his account "for no reason"
00:42 <@juice> so how was the asus debacle?
00:42 <@Dagmar> The reason being a new account that gets SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND EUROS in it in less then a month, triggers their "this might be money laundering" alarm
00:42 <@Dagmar> juice: Today was not hte day for me to call them again.  I'm still feeling like deliberately hurting someone's feelings
00:43 <@Dagmar> So anyway, this guy has a game that is actually, pretty good
00:43 <@Dagmar> It's sandbox, it's got multiplayer (now)
00:43 <@Dagmar> SLASHDOT carries the story about the dev so about a jillion geeks get wind of the fact that there's a sandbox game that runs on every platform, and is cheap
00:44 <@Dagmar> His server has been taking it up the ASS all weekend, from people registering and buying the game
00:44 <@Dagmar> So like, the load that _didn't_ murder his server before and got him 600,000 euros, is now enough to have his server on the rops
00:45 <@Dagmar> er ropes
00:45 <@Dagmar> Over the weekend, he did something kinda cool
00:45 <@Dagmar> He's like "My server is fucked, so everyone gets a free play weekend"
00:46 <@Dagmar> Whatever auth mechanism he uses, he just flipped on in some way to make the thing free
00:46 <@Dagmar> So about a jillion people download this game
00:46 <@Dagmar> Play it over the weekend, and are now seriously hot and heavy to give this guy nine euros
00:46 <@Dagmar> Motehfucker is going to be rich
00:47 < Mercster> so do you like it?
00:47 <@Dagmar> Actually, I do
00:47 < Mercster> lol
00:47 <@Dagmar> It has pretty interesting potential
00:48 < pierut> i was just playing a game called 'alien swarm'
00:48 <@Dagmar> The crafting aspect in it makes a sort of sense, it is _seriously_ retro looking just because he used 16x16 sprites painted on cubes
00:48 < pierut> it is free...and rather good
00:49 <@Dagmar> ...and the entire game and server weight in at less than a megabyte
00:49 < pierut> o_O
00:49 <@Dagmar> This thing is like the ultimate casual game for adults
00:50 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to resist the temptaion to go scouring fourums so I can figure out if there's a way to make the flowers grow better
00:50 <@Dagmar> ...just because I think adding a greenhouse might look cool.  Hehe
00:51 <@Evilpig> notlarry has been messing with minecraft for a few weeks now.  him and the notkids have a lot of fun with it
00:51 <@Evilpig> he was showing me one night how you can make the ocean drain into a maze and stuff
00:53 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I found a lava flow that just conveniently already was running into an underground stream
00:53 <@Dagmar> It basically churns out obsidian
00:54 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: The server is *stupid* simple to make run
00:54 <@Evilpig> he has it running on his linux box 
00:54 <@Dagmar> THe fucking *game* actually runs on my netbook.
00:55 <@Dagmar> It's a bit choppy, but damn
00:56 <@Dagmar> As sandbox games go, the persistance of what you do, and the fact that the map is effectively _ridisulously fucking large_...
00:56 <@Dagmar> Wow.  That's some goddamn potential
00:56 < Mercster> mmm, ultima
00:56 <@Dagmar> Mercster: The map is procedurally generated as you move around.
00:57 <@Dagmar> It's ultimate size is _eight times larger than the surface of the earth_
00:57 < daswork> One of these days, I'm going to be honestly blunt in a dating ad.
00:57 < daswork> I'll probably get responses.
00:58 <@Dagmar> If you randomly spawned players to different bind points, with 32 players there's pretty much no chance you're ever going to see anyone else
00:58 <@Dagmar> That's fucking _LARGE_
00:59 <@Dagmar> I am kinda considering constructing a few city blocks that will actually regularly be infested with zombies
00:59 < daswork> Zombies are good.
00:59 < daswork> What are we talking about?
01:00 <@Dagmar> Minecraft.
01:00 <@Evilpig> the pigs and chickens made me laugh
01:00 < daswork> Link?
01:00 <@Dagmar> Anyplace _unlit_ after the sun goes down spawns monsters
01:01 <@Dagmar> daswork: At the moment, just type Minecraft into google
01:01 <@Dagmar> One guy wrote it and he has one server.
01:01 <@Dagmar> This server is currently inundated with people trying to buy the game
01:02 < daswork> Looking at the wiki page.
01:02 < daswork> Heh, I was thinking "Dwarf Fortress".
01:03 <@Dagmar> I was just saying, this is the guy Slashdot did the story about last week because his paypal account got 600,000e put in it in about two weeks flat
01:03 < daswork> Persson was inspired to create Minecraft by several other games, including Dwarf Fortress, RollerCoaster Tycoon and Dungeon Keeper.
01:04 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking he's probably going to piss himself when he gets up in the morning
01:04 < Mercster> looks tedious
01:04 <@Dagmar> ...if he's not just running around like a maniac trying to fix it right now
01:04 <@Dagmar> Mercster: You stay busy
01:04 < daswork> Mercster: Sometimes, tedious is fun.
01:04 <@Dagmar> Night falls like every 10 minutes or so
01:04 <@Dagmar> night means _monsters_ spawn.
01:05 <@Dagmar> Your ass is basically wearing a tshirt and jeans and NO WEAPON when you start
01:05 < daswork> So a typical day at work.
01:05 < daswork> But I only have to deal with monsters, instead of idiots.
01:05 < daswork> I see the appeal.
01:06 <@Dagmar> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/9/17/
01:06 <@Dagmar> ...and then http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/9/20/
01:07 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure there's a hardcore gamer on the planet who hasn't heard about the game now
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01:24 <@Dagmar> Took about an hour, but I FINALLY GOT IT
01:24 < pierut> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Bouncing_tits.gif
01:24 < pierut> <_<
01:27 < daswork> That's hillarious.
01:44 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: what all code did you get to work with for the resource page?  did you just grab the html or did you get the actual php stuff?
01:46 <@Dagmar> I just grabbed the HTML, since the way it functions isn't something I intend to address until it stops looking ugly
01:47 <@Evilpig> just stop now then.  cause I am working on the rest and I dont think you have any idea what changing even the look involves right now
01:47 <@Dagmar> It checks things in an out well enough.  Once the UI is less awful, THEN I'm going to address the whole "add a modal-like zlayer for when the user gets their login wrong"
01:47  * pierut waves to evilpig
01:47 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: OKay.  I'm still goign to work out how to do it because I'm hella rusty with CSS
01:48 <@Dagmar> Trying to do this without tables is a bitch
01:48 <@Evilpig> just save the trouble and use tables
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01:48 < peachie1984> ping
01:48 <@Evilpig> heya peaches
01:49 <@Dagmar> Nah, I think I've just about got all those issues sorted now.  The rest is just playing with jQuery
01:49 <@Dagmar> The inventory app is the next victim
01:49 < peachie1984> hey i just got irc on my phone. i am so excited.
01:50 <@Evilpig> you really need to look at the code before tinkering with the interface.  it has to be redone to make almost any changes.  there is bits of html everywhere.  
01:53 <@Dagmar> I know this.
01:53 <@Dagmar> I also know it's just generating the bits as it goes along from top to bottom.  It's just a cut and paste job what I had in mind
01:53 <@Dagmar> The only even moderately complex issue is that I'd have to change the routine that spits out the list of items so that it puts the tab separators in there.
01:54 <@Evilpig> there is no list...  they are all seperate files...
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01:56 <@Dagmar> *sigh*
01:56 <@Dagmar> I'm not talking about whatever it's storing them in on the server sid
01:57 <@Dagmar> I was talkign about the _list of items it generates into the HTML_
01:57 <@Dagmar> I wasn't really expecting to even have to write any new code there, just rearrange the bits
01:59 <@Dagmar> Like I said in the office, since by default it regurgiates all categories, and seemed wasteful to make another query in such a short time if someone wanted something _not_ in the first tab, that could just as well be handled client side, and the server still just hands the page with all the items in it all the time
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02:20 < pierut> haha olawd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUH3m6ZyW-g&feature=player_embedded
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03:55 <@Evilpig> my head hurts
04:06 <@Evilpig> html lesson for the day.  <caption>  althought not commonly used is a valid 4.01 tag.  ONLY when used within the confines of <table>
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08:36 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: you awake?
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09:09 < VampirePenguin> oh it da Evilpig
09:10 <@ware> Dagmar: dcc me the classic version
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11:46 < VampirePenguin> ppl dont live in places, they live in hearts and minds and souls......
11:46 < VampirePenguin> lalalala
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14:26 < peachie_1984> hey corydon76_dig i am actually kind of excited i walked in to let her know i was  here the lady i spoke with the other day actually remebered me and called me by name.
14:26 <@Dagmar> Someone explain to NotLarry about fireallwas and game servers again.  ;)
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14:28 < pierut> =o
14:36 <@ware> Dagmar:
14:36 <@Dagmar> Hmm?
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22:11 < pierut> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvwDohEEQ1E
22:11 < pierut> @_o
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22:24 < pierut> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1IxOS4VzKM
22:26 < pierut> houston, we have a throblem
22:27 <@sdodson> that's a good one
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