--- Log opened Sat Aug 28 00:00:08 2010
00:19 < Mercster> did you mean stfu
00:34 < Mercster> change?
00:34 < Mercster> shit
00:34 < Mercster> i guess change is good for any of us
00:34 < Mercster> whatever it take for any yall niggaz ta git up out ta hood
00:34 < Mercster> shit, im witcha
00:34 < Mercster> i aint mad atcha
00:34 < Mercster> i got nuthin but love for ya
00:35 < Mercster> do ya thing, boy
00:35 < Mercster> yea...all the homies that i aint talked to in awhile
00:35 < Mercster> imma send dis one out for yall
00:35 < Mercster> cuz I AINT MAD ATCHA
00:36 < Mercster> heard yall tearin up shit out there
00:36 < Mercster> kickin up dust
00:36 < Mercster> givin a mutha FUCK
00:36 < Mercster> yea niggaz
00:36 < Mercster> cut I AINT MAD ATCHA
00:59 < Gerdesas> Perhaps lay off the speed / coke?  Just a thought.
01:00 < Mercster> what about beer
01:00 < Mercster> can i drink that
01:01 < Gerdesas> Would it matter if I said no? :)
01:01 < Mercster> not really
01:01 < Gerdesas> Besides, far be it from me to tell someone else what they can or can not do to their body.
01:03 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: FYI they've started carrying the _tasty_ "shake it yourself" salads at the minimarket next door again
01:04 <@Dagmar> cogwheel: Not likely
01:08 < Mercster> what go around, come around kiiiiiiiiiiiiiid
01:08 < Mercster> check me, an' ill check ya back
01:25 <@Evilpig> heh
01:26 <@Evilpig> I brought in two chicken sammiches, some chips and a couple of hard boiled eggs tonight
01:26 <@Evilpig> that reminds me.  I havent' had breakfast/dinner whatever fucking time this is
01:26 <@Evilpig> think i'll watch half of tonight's eureka and eat a quick something then get the inventory done
01:28 < Mercster> mmm chicken sammiches
01:30 < Mercster> but i just had to look
01:30 < Mercster> having
01:30 < Mercster> read
01:30 < Mercster> the
01:30 < Mercster> book
01:30 < Mercster> id love to tuuuuurrrrrrrn
01:30 < Mercster> yooooooooouuuu
01:30 < Mercster> onnnnnnnnnn
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01:32 <@Dagmar> Yay the myth box didn't flake and flag either recording as 60fps tonight
01:32 < Mercster> Dagmar: ive had comcast DVR for a week or so now. i miss mythTV
01:32 <@Evilpig> for future incidents.  idev is the correct people to call not unix for the account stuff
01:33 <@Evilpig> jeff just called in to tell me he couldn't get ahold of them and just did it himself
01:33 <@Dagmar> I was always told that after hours it was Unix on call, but that's probably something that got changed and no one botehred to tell us about
01:33 <@Evilpig> like everything else around here
01:33 <@Dagmar> Good thing they can still do it
01:34 < Mercster> never call UNIX
01:34 < Mercster> leave those poor bastards alone
01:34 <@Dagmar> But they're the people who can actually get things done
01:34 < Mercster> true
01:35 < Mercster> but they still dont deserve your stress
01:35 <@Dagmar> We don't call the on calls unless something needs doing with a quickness.
01:36 <@Evilpig> I knew Beverly showing up again couldn't be good
01:36 <@Dagmar> evilpig: You know what to tell the AT&T guys if some miracle happens and they actually call us about the DSL line, right?
01:36 <@Evilpig> they're retarded and need to stop blocking port 25 requests?
01:36 <@Dagmar> I am pretty sure I sent an email to Kevin today about that highlighting that Lisa apparently can't get it through to them
01:36 <@Dagmar> Yeah.
01:36 <@Dagmar> Other people might fall for the shit some tier III CS rep might make up
01:37 <@Dagmar> UNless Comcast started blocking 25 inbound (doubt it) I'm really sure AT&T is filtering
01:37 < Mercster> i dunno man, ive been a UNIX admin in several shops, you'd better have a good reason to activate the beeper
01:38 <@Dagmar> Mercster: Generally it's "webserver just dribbled out onto the floor" or "database server is about to run out of space"
01:38 < Mercster> Dagmar: no database goons?
01:38 <@Dagmar> ...or kludgey paging system just ate it.
01:38 <@Dagmar> Mercster: We haz DBs everywhere
01:39 <@Dagmar> ...and, you know, _students_.
01:39 < Mercster> ...
01:39 < Mercster> well
01:39 <@Dagmar> The #1 threat to the stability of everything they touch.
01:39 <@Evilpig> that's the truth
01:39 <@Dagmar> Students and PHP go together like potassium and swimming pools
01:39 <@Evilpig> those fuckers get on campus and pretty much fill our inbox with spam notices
01:40 < Mercster> someone aside from unix should be maintaining the DB
01:40 < Mercster> but i guess thats a best-case scneario
01:40 < Mercster> scenario
01:40 <@Dagmar> Mercster: yes, a great idea would be to have the windows admins beating on mysql in the middle of the night
01:40 <@Dagmar> THat would be win
01:40 < Mercster> Dagmar: heh
01:41 <@Evilpig> Oooooooh!  catfight!  Tess v Allison
01:41 <@Dagmar> Holy crap lemme start that video
01:41 <@Dagmar> By the way, the Timothy Leary glasses scene was fucking awesome.
01:41 <@Evilpig> I told you
01:41 <@Dagmar> They absolutely nailed it.
01:41 <@Evilpig> I laughted my ass off at that
01:41 <@Evilpig> Walrus Arty was great
01:42 <@Dagmar> Up to and including Peter's behaviour
01:42 < Mercster> before i sort of dropped out of the workforce, i figured oracle DB administration seemed like an OK career path
01:42 <@Dagmar> I was like "Yes that's exactly the sort of thing someone on LSD would find highly entertaining... spinning in a chair trailing a long bit of ribbon through the air."
01:42 < Mercster> im a unix admin from way back, and it seems DB admin is similar, just a little more complex
01:42 < Mercster> but it has its own grammar, etc
01:43 < Mercster> things im good at
01:43 <@Dagmar> I like to not be directly writing SQL queries
01:43 <@Dagmar> I'm super pleased with the way DBI queries work now
01:43 <@Evilpig> Oh this gets better.  Stark is back too.
01:43 <@Dagmar> That wasn't in there back in the 90's
01:44 < Mercster> perl ::DBI?
01:44 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Of course he's going to keep coming back like a bad penny.  Sheriff not getting the girl is major story arc
01:44 <@Dagmar> Mercster: yes
01:44 <@Dagmar> No more insane bullshit with having to escape everything to hell and back
01:44 <@Dagmar> It's fucking "dealt with"
01:45 < Mercster> last job i had i was responsible for keeping the perl binaries built across multiple platforms
01:45 < Mercster> i honestly dont know enough about it to judge ::DBI
01:45 < Mercster> i know it was in use
01:46 < Mercster> thats all i was responsible for
01:46 < Mercster> "oh we need perl? ok"
01:46 <@Dagmar> Bill wrote a big-ass bit of code that let us just pass an array amounting to tablename, fieldname, matchtext to get a hash back without worrying that errant semicolons were going to destroy the planet
01:47 < Mercster> well as a unix admin, i have a built-in aversion to programmers
01:48 < Mercster> they're usually raping something that wasnt meant for the hardware to do`
01:48 <@Dagmar> Check this out http://www.tizag.com/perlT/perldbiquery.php
01:48 <@Dagmar> Now you can just construct the query with variables right in there
01:49 <@Dagmar> Damnit that doesn't show it well
01:50 < Mercster> looks similar to PHP
01:50 <@Dagmar> Ah this shows it http://www.perl.com/pub/1999/10/DBI.html
01:50 <@Dagmar> $sth->execute($lastname) just makes it replace lastname in the query with the value you handed execute() and deals with pesky escaping for you
01:51 <@Evilpig> Oh this is just brilliant!  Dagmar gtfo irc and get on Eureka
01:53 <@Dagmar> I'm just waiting for Old Spice to show that he's as big a prick as he acts
01:53 < Mercster> you dont like those commercials, eh
01:53 < Mercster> i think they're pretty clever
01:54 <@Dagmar> Not talking about the commercial, I'm talking about a character on Eureka
01:54 < Mercster> oh
01:54 <@Dagmar> Trevor Grant
01:54 <@Dagmar> He's practically solipistic
01:54  * Mercster watches the reference whoosh above his head
01:55 <@Dagmar> He's a self-centered ass at the core.
01:55 < Mercster> Dagmar: so he'd do well on IRC then
01:55 <@Dagmar> He's in present day because he risked someone else's life to basically hitch a ride to the future
01:55 <@Dagmar> ...without their consent.
01:55 <@Dagmar> At some point, he's _going_ to get used as a tool to betray the town
01:56 < Mercster> i just got a xbox360 and it has netflix streaming, ive been looking for tv shows to watch
01:56 < Mercster> i think i wanna watch 'Lost'
01:56 <@Dagmar> hahahah
01:57 < Mercster> but i havent gotten past the first episode yet
01:57 <@Dagmar> Try and remember that they actually did NOT have a game plan when they started that
01:57 <@Dagmar> The whole first season they were just making shit up as they went along with no planning ahead at all
01:57 < Mercster> well, dont ruin anything for me
01:57 < Mercster> but it seems to have captured an audience
01:58 <@Dagmar> Hot people, beautiful scenery, a plot that serves as an excuse to sample every demographic around... sure it was going to grab an audience
01:58 <@Dagmar> "People who watch TV will probably like this"
01:58 < Mercster> heh
01:59 <@Dagmar> Oh hell yes the cat fight is coming up
01:59 <@Dagmar> ugh.  teases
01:59  * Mercster watches a patton oswald show on netflix
02:00 <@Dagmar> Zane's going to die.
02:00 <@Dagmar> Oh well.
02:02 <@Dagmar> If Zane's jerking Jo around like that, she'll probably kill him
02:15 <@Evilpig> You go carter!
02:16 <@Evilpig> I hate when they end shit like that~!  
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02:30 <@Dagmar> OMG cyclon reference
02:30 <@Dagmar> cheap!
02:31 <@Dagmar> "Tall leggy blonde, slinky red dress"
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05:31 <@Evilpig> http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/d6aw9/some_people_have_no_sense_of_humor/
05:40 <@Evilpig> Okay so you leave work for 30 minutes for lunch then you come back and heat up your shit in the microwave and spend another 30 minutes eating it.  How the fuck does that work?
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09:20 < daswork> http://i.imgur.com/oevZF.jpg
09:20 < daswork> why can I believe that it's more likely than not that the sign wasn't hacked to display that message?
09:26 <@Corydon76-dig> daswork: is that local to MNPLS?
09:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Nope, looked up the sign.  It's in Orange county, CA
09:37 <@Evilpig> dagmar I have got some decent news on the db end of things
09:55 < daswork> Corydon76-dig: Bike paths;  The perfect location for traffic signs.
11:35 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Really?  That's good
12:00 <@Evilpig> you see my pm?
12:01 <@Dagmar> I see the pile you just sent
12:02 <@Evilpig> heh
12:03 <@Evilpig> yeah fun with joins
12:03 <@Evilpig> passing off laptop to patricia
12:03 <@Dagmar> k
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12:25 < uSynx> sup peeps
12:26 < uSynx> I've got a cellular question for anyone in the know...
12:27 < uSynx> im CDMA as is my girlfriend, past few weeks ive been getting some really strange crosstalk.  Only happens when i call her cell, but i can hear bits and peaces of other peoples conversations
12:27 < uSynx> i thought all this ish was encrypted, any ideas?
12:27 <@Corydon76-dig> It's only encrypted from you to the tower
12:27 < fall0ut> could be issues on the tdm side
12:28 < uSynx> its really strange
12:28 < uSynx> sounds like the same person everytime too
12:28 <@Corydon76-dig> It's usually a digital circuit from the tower, but I suppose there's a possibility of it being analog
12:28 < uSynx> makes me wonder if theres some kind of bleedover at her apt
12:28 < fall0ut> vzw or sprint?
12:29 < uSynx> im vzw she is sprint i believe
12:29 <@Dagmar> It's likely a tower malfunction.
12:29 < uSynx> first time it happened i thought she was cheating on me with someone haha
12:30 <@Dagmar> I've heard the same stuff before on calls between AT&T and Sprint so I doubt it's "just" those two
12:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Analog is the only location in the path where you could have actual crosstalk
12:30 < uSynx> well actually thats not so haha as i have trust issues it would appear
12:30 < fall0ut> a lot of the time I'll call into AT&T cells and get a loop
12:30 <@Dagmar> They do occasionally fuck up and leak calls
12:30 < fall0ut> where my au dio is played back to me
12:30 <@Dagmar> I was like "yay.  major software malfunction!"
12:30 < uSynx> ya i get loops on vzw all the f'ing time
12:31 <@Corydon76-dig> I've never had any such problems on T-Mobile...
12:31 <@Dagmar> So, encrypted or not, if the thing that does trunking fucks up, you get audio you weren't supposed to get
12:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Once again, the carriers which use cheap crap dominate the market, and the ones using reliable equipment are squeezed out
12:32 < fall0ut> all of vzw's new backhaul is IP and they've had a ton of issues with some stuff
12:32 < fall0ut> so that could possibly be it
12:32 <@Dagmar> Well, this affects the big four carriers so...
12:33 < uSynx> man, i have real heart burn with vzw, their landline shop put me to collections 5 years after i left an appt, i know for a fact i paid the bill but couldn't prove it, nor could they prove that i owed them :9
12:33 < uSynx> all for only $100
12:33 < fall0ut> vzw ftw, but on ly becuase they're a customer
12:33 <@Dagmar> If they didn't have records that you owed them you're practically done
12:33 <@Corydon76-dig> uSynx: actually most companies have a great difficulty "proving" consumers owe them anything
12:34 < uSynx> yup, problem was it was already at an independant collector and on my credit report before i knew anything of it
12:34 < uSynx> i need to keep better track of my credit
12:34 < fall0ut> $10/mo!
12:34 < uSynx> either way i'm in it for life with vzw now after i got my droid haha, fucking contracts
12:35 <@Corydon76-dig> So the basic strategy is to harass consumers until they pay.  Anybody who puts up a fight is dropped quickly
12:35 < uSynx> im convinced that the entire cellular industry is a scam
12:35 < fall0ut> nah
12:35 < fall0ut> it costs $$ to provide cell service
12:36 < uSynx> indeed it does
12:36 <@Corydon76-dig> For that matter, collection companies typically have a problem "proving" that they complied with Fair Debt Collection Practices Act
12:36 < uSynx> but not at the markup they charge us, nor the inflated overage charges
12:36 <@Dagmar> Pfft.  They have a problem _complying_ with it.
12:36 < uSynx> as an aside anyone collect vinyl in here?
12:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: there's that, but they always go for the cheapest methods of communication
12:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Cheap==unverifiable
12:37 <@Dagmar> i haz many vinyls
12:37 < uSynx> indeed
12:37 < uSynx> vinylz
12:38 <@Corydon76-dig> You just have to ensure that if they take you to court, you show up and contest the proceedings.  Then, they're sunk, because they cannot prove jack shit
12:40 < uSynx> but they know nobody has the time to spend in court over small clames
12:40 < uSynx> claims that is
12:41 <@Corydon76-dig> No, that's what they assume
12:41 < uSynx> well most people really dont
12:41 < uSynx> i sure as hell dont
12:41 <@Corydon76-dig> You better show up if someone takes you to court.  A default judgement is incredibly difficult to overturn
12:42 < uSynx> back to cleaning the house for me, least the gf finds out im a horrible slob
12:42 < fall0ut> I am a horrible slob
12:42 < fall0ut> and $girl can put up with it
12:42 < uSynx> not what i was getting at, its the taking the collectors to court thats the time consuming part
12:43 < uSynx> i hate being disorganised but my schedule these past few months has been killing my will to do anything about it
12:43 <@Corydon76-dig> You don't have to take them to court.  You only have to threaten them with it
12:43 < fall0ut> jesus my cat is odd
12:43 < uSynx> true
12:43 < fall0ut> he loves asparagus
12:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Because their court costs usually vastly outweigh any amount you might owe, they'll immediately shelve any claim
12:43 < fall0ut> he'll straight up fight you for some
12:44 < uSynx> my cat is hairy and does not go well with my black bed sheets
12:44 < uSynx> fall0ut: thats quite odd
12:44 <@Corydon76-dig> fall0ut: my rabbit will fight your cat and win
12:44 < fall0ut> my cat has no claws
12:44 < fall0ut> and is fat and lazy
12:45 < uSynx> my friend rubbed catnip all over my sandals without my knowing the other day, now my cat chases me around and tried to eat my toes
12:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
12:45 < uSynx> it was funny for about 5min
12:45 < uSynx> not it just sucks
12:45 <@Corydon76-dig> fall0ut: my rabbit usually wins fights with cats without ever lifting a paw
12:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Cats look at him and think... "whoa.  That may be a tasty rabbit, but it's twice my size."
12:46 < fall0ut> haha
12:46 <@Corydon76-dig> He now clocks in at 17 lbs at 17mo.
12:46 < fall0ut> he's not much bigger than my cat
12:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, but the rabbit isn't fat
12:47 < fall0ut> he was 15lbs last year at the vet
12:47 < fall0ut> $girl's grandmother has a cat that is pushing 30lbs
12:47 <@Corydon76-dig> He's just a giant rabbit
12:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Yesterday, we got him to hop from the car into the front door of the house, with just a bit of encouragement
12:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Up a total of 3 steps
12:49 < uSynx> holy shit thats a huge rabit, you have any photos?
12:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Of course I have photos
12:49 < uSynx> might we see them?
12:50 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000447567647&ref=ts#!/photo.php?pid=196456&id=100000447567647&ref=fbx_album
12:51 < uSynx> is that normal size!?!?!?
12:51 <@Corydon76-dig> For his breed, yes
12:51 <@Corydon76-dig> He's a little bigger now
12:52 < uSynx> wow
12:52 < uSynx> thats cool
12:52 < uSynx> ya my cat wouldn't go anywhere near him
12:55 < fall0ut> man
12:55 < fall0ut> I don't wanna do shit today
12:56 < uSynx> tell me about it, ive been getting up at 3am every day this week working 12+ hour days :(
12:56 < uSynx> next weeks not looking much better
12:57 < fall0ut> that sucks
12:57 < fall0ut> I keep getting mroe shit dropped on me
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14:28 <@Dagmar>  The results are in:  It was the CDI.
14:28 <@Dagmar> Headin out to pick up mah bike
14:57 < Gerdesas> Corydon76-dig: jesus h. christ.  that's a *big* fucking rabbit.  I've shot coyotes much smaller than that thing.
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15:08 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig likes 'em big
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15:46 < tek-eek> any thoughts on HydraIRC?
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15:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Gerdesas: He's a very tame, well-mannered, and charming pet, though
15:48 <@Corydon76-dig> I am slowly taming another rabbit I just took in, too
15:49 < Gerdesas> heh; I'm sure he makes for a fine pet.  Just somewhat disconcerting seeing a rabbit that big.  I've got tons of rabbits on the property and none are a fraction of the size of yours.
15:50 < Gerdesas> I've got a Boston Terrier and your rabbit would crush him. :)
15:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Nah, you underestimate the ability of a dog to prance around like a boxer
15:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, depends upon the dog, I guess
15:51 <@Corydon76-dig> The rabbit can make speed in a single direction, can turn on a dime, and can deliver massive blows.  But light on his feet, he is not.
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15:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Most cats don't even chance it.  I've seen one bat a paw at Johnny, and he batted right back... and the cat turned tail and RAN
15:55 < Mercster> i would fight your rabbit
15:55 < Mercster> for a fee
15:56 < Mercster> i boxed a cat once
15:57 < Mercster> when i was living in iowa some crazy ass stray cat got into our apartment, and i had a young baby in the house
15:57 < Mercster> i think he was on the ground in a carseat at the time
15:57 < Mercster> so i tried to chase the cat out but ended up cornering him
15:57 < Mercster> so i threw punches at it
15:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Keep in mind that we're talking about a prey species fighting in a battle that most lose in the wild.  That's what makes his ability to stare down predators impressive
16:00 <@Corydon76-dig> I am fully confident that there are many species, humans included, who are no match for my rabbit
16:01 < Mercster> as i said, if you are confident in your rabbit's abilities, we can arrange a boxing match
16:02 < Mercster> we need a third party to make the arrangements and fee scales
16:02 <@Corydon76-dig> I am confident in the lack of my rabbit's abilities
16:06 < Gerdesas> Your rabbit, for some reason, reminds me of the killer rabbit from Monty Python's Holy Grail.
16:06 < Mercster> heh
16:08 <@Corydon76-dig> He's a bit ol' slut... he'll lie down for anybody willing to scratch him on the head...
16:09 <@Corydon76-dig> s/bit/big/
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16:16 < Gerdesas> Heh, my critters are the same way.
16:20 < Mercster> ive got two cats, one of them is more friendly than the other
16:20 < Mercster> but weirdly, its the non-friendly one who tries to sleep next to me in bed
16:20 < Mercster> the friendly one stays away
16:20 < Mercster> dunno why
16:20 < Mercster> maybe its the difference between male and female
16:32 <@Dagmar> Different levels of expression of instinct
16:46 <@Dagmar> Shucks.  Nothing on CNN about Glen Beck being torn apart by angry crowds.
16:46 <@Dagmar> I was so looking forward to that headline, too.
16:50 < Gerdesas> hah
17:29 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdaYWd5XLhc
17:29 <@sdodson> NSFW is you're a pansy, beware.
17:30 <@sdodson> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/adg/1921316871.html likewise
17:31 <@sdodson> http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/the-13-worst-mel-gibson-rant-quotes-presented-by
17:31 <@sdodson> THAT IS ALL
17:40 < Gerdesas> That youtube video rocked.  Thanks :)
17:41 <@sdodson> http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/28/wii-balance-board-controlled-robot-a-hit-with-toddlers-in-ithaca/
17:41 <@sdodson> i'll post more links for your enjoyments
17:58 <@sdodson> http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/24/dea.ebonics/index.html?iref=NS1
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