--- Log opened Fri Aug 20 00:00:02 2010 --- Day changed Fri Aug 20 2010 00:00 -!- juice_ [1000@67.48.16.165] has joined #se2600 00:02 -!- juice_ is now known as juice 00:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o juice] by ChanServ 00:04 -!- Peaches1984 [two@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:26 -!- mfph [~itsME@adsl-065-080-187-241.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:39 -!- mfph [~itsME@adsl-065-080-187-241.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 00:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mfph] by ChanServ 00:53 -!- MaxieZ [~maxiez@maxiez.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:49 -!- MaxieZ [~maxiez@maxiez.com] has joined #se2600 06:46 <@mfph> Gettin ready to head on down to the A.A. Birch Bldg. 06:55 <@mfph> http://m0refire.com/mfph/mfph-shape_of_my_heart.mp3 08:59 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.nandomedia.com] has joined #se2600 09:25 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@71.21.124.111] has joined #se2600 09:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 09:32 <@Shadow404> wow, political bs going on this week big time at work 09:33 <@Shadow404> new systems and policies that leverage in mgmt favor without regard for the techs 09:33 <@Shadow404> and then people approved for promotion by everyone, shot down at the last sign off by the dept. head 09:33 <@Shadow404> even after hr and all lower bosses approved 09:35 -!- Curbob [~curbob@12.97.163.66] has joined #se2600 09:37 < Mercster> Shadow404: you may be an excellent candidate for middle management 09:43 -!- nefD [~nefD@adsl-068-016-097-246.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:47 -!- nefD [~nefD@adsl-068-016-097-246.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 09:58 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.nandomedia.com] has quit [Quit: Comments like that are why you have no friends] 10:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Neoteric: ping 10:19 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.nandomedia.com] has joined #se2600 10:23 <@Shadow404> Mercster: probably 10:29 -!- Peaches1984 [gray@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:55 -!- Gerdesas [~jrd@unaffiliated/gerdesas] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:31 -!- Gerdesas [~jrd@unaffiliated/gerdesas] has joined #se2600 12:32 -!- Shadow404 [shadow40@uranus.mtveurope.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:32 -!- Shadow404 [shadow40@boneym.mtveurope.org] has joined #se2600 13:08 -!- Peaches1984 [gray@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:54 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@71.21.124.111] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 14:15 <@Dagmar> ROFL http://failbook.com/2010/08/13/funny-facebook-fails-the-cop-was-facepalming/ 14:30 < fall0ut> haha 14:30 -!- Peaches1984 [three@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:47 < Mercster> you know damn right 14:48 < Mercster> dont shun it 14:48 < Mercster> fun it 15:07 < Shadow404> You kiccka my dog, you know damn right 15:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Shadow404] by ChanServ 15:27 <@Dagmar> Wheee 15:28 <@Dagmar> If I'm lucky the temp might drop below "OMGHOT" before I go pick up my scooter 15:28 <@ware> _ 15:28 <@ware> __ __ _| |_ ___ __ _ 15:28 <@ware> \ V V / ' \/ _ \/ _` |_ 15:28 <@ware> \_/\_/|_||_\___/\__,_(_) 15:28 <@ware> 15:28 <@Sheath> whoa 15:28 <@Dagmar> ware: Don't make me install figlet. 15:28 <@Sheath> hmm do i have figlet on here 15:28 <@ware> 15:28 <@ware> ▗▀ ▝ ▝▜ ▗ ▄▄ 15:28 <@ware> ▗▟▄ ▗▄ ▄▄ ▐ ▄▖ ▗▟▄ ▗ ▗ ▝ ▝▌ 15:28 <@ware> ▐ ▐ ▐▘▜ ▐ ▐▘▐ ▐ ▝▖▞ ▗▘ 15:28 <@ware> ▐ ▐ ▐ ▐ ▐ ▐▀▀ ▐ ▙▌ ▗▘ 15:29 <@ware> ▐ ▗▟▄ ▝▙▜ ▝▄ ▝▙▞ ▝▄ ▐ ▗▙▄▖ 15:29 <@ware> ▖▐ 15:29 <@Dagmar> You wouldn't like me when I'm installing. 15:29 <@ware> ▝▘ 15:29 <@Sheath> sh: figlet: command not found 15:29 <@Sheath> guess not 15:29 <@ware> apt-get install toilet 15:29 <@Sheath> its not debian 15:29 <@Sheath> arch linux ftw 15:29 <@ware> http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/toilet 15:30 <@ware> dont think i want to work the rest of the day 15:30 <@ware> pretty sure im done for this week 15:30 <@Dagmar> That's right. I'm *that* old skool 15:30 <@ware> figlet + banner + cowsay = win 15:31 <@Sheath> haha yeah 15:32 <@Dagmar> I should look into whether or not Grassmere has any palas cats 15:32 <@Dagmar> I wanna push my luck on the whole "universally liked by cats" thing 15:33 < Mercster> ware: if you were such a complete fucktard, you'd be my hero 15:34 <@Sheath> an hero 15:35 <@Dagmar> Note that the eyes have *round* pupils http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trR04GBpl9E 15:35 <@ware> lewls 15:35 <@ware> i hate cats 15:36 <@unixfg> but they love you 15:36 <@Sheath> fuk cats 15:36 <@unixfg> or think you has a flavor, at least 15:36 <@Sheath> fuk lolcats 15:36 <@unixfg> Sheath: I wouldn't put it past you 15:36 < Mercster> thats not true 15:36 <@Dagmar> Well, I caught someone _else's_ lost kitty this morning 15:36 <@Sheath> unixfg, what are you trying to say 15:36 < Mercster> cats do not love you 15:37 <@Sheath> since im a furry that automatically makes me a zoophile? 15:37 <@unixfg> Sheath: yes. 15:37 <@Dagmar> Yeah they're just saying that to get me in bed, I'm sure 15:37 < Mercster> cats see you as a large heat-emitting food source 15:37 <@Sheath> fuck you how fucking rude 15:40 <@Dagmar> Luckily I remembered who this kitty belonged to because I met 'em about three weeks ago 15:41 <@Dagmar> So... 15:41 <@Dagmar> At least I know I can make 8-year old girls very happy 15:41 <@Dagmar> heh 15:41 < Mercster> :| 15:45 <@Dagmar> I feel better about this one since, based on her reaction, I can tell she cared about the kitty 15:45 <@Dagmar> The other one I wanted to keep, I didn't even get so much as a postit note thankyou 16:07 -!- mfph [~itsME@adsl-065-080-187-241.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:38 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.nandomedia.com] has quit [Quit: Comments like that are why you have no friends] 16:47 <@ware> u dont even know me kid shut the fuck up hidin behind yuor computar id fuckin lump u out if u fronted on me like that in person kid, fuckin bitchass little nerd hidin behind ur computer screen little pussy i'd kick ur ass irl fagget 17:04 <@Dagmar> Right, see... THAT would be the proper time and place to use the n-word 17:04 <@Dagmar> It's time for my FAVORITE game... Traffic Surfing To Get The Bike During Rush Hour! 17:05 <@Dagmar> The cab has been hailed, the directions given... All that's left now is the SHEER SUSPENSE of WILL HE MAKE IT IN TIME! 17:05 <@Dagmar> I know from the last time if I don't wanna feel like I'm trying to outrun an apocalypse< i gotta be gone from here by 5:30 17:06 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, I run the risk of being on Gallatin Road near nightfall for no good reason. 17:07 <@Dagmar> With the perpetual forecast there being "5% chance of gangsters" this isn't a slot machine arm I'm willing to pull all that often 17:10 < Mercster> mmkay 17:39 -!- juice [1000@67.48.16.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:34 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:50 <@Dagmar> Wheee 18:50 <@Dagmar> It works and everything now 18:51 <@Dagmar> The carburetor clean-out had an effect, too (or I've been off the bike for too long). I looked down at the speedometer while I was going back down Gallatin and I was doin' 50mph 19:20 <@kive> black hat and def con slide decks are now posted on their respective Archive areas, fyi 19:21 <@Dagmar> You wanna see something funny? 19:21 <@Dagmar> http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/innovation/08/20/super.passwords/index.html?hpt=T2 19:21 <@Dagmar> Ask yourself how CNN can fail at math THAT HARD. 19:23 <@Dagmar> Note the time difference between 11- and 12-character passwords they're talking about. 19:23 <@Dagmar> With a keyspace of 95 possible characters for the last one, the computing time goes up by 95x 19:23 <@Dagmar> Not a jillion 19:25 <@Dagmar> Fuck. 19:25 <@Dagmar> Nevermind me. It's hot 19:26 <@Dagmar> *facepalm* 19:27 * Shadow404 slaps Dagmar 19:27 <@Dagmar> Well it is! 19:27 <@Shadow404> i know 19:27 <@Dagmar> I should know better than to attempt simple math unassisted. 19:27 <@Shadow404> i just like slapping you 19:28 <@Shadow404> but what about space time? 19:28 < Mercster> what about TIMECUBE 19:28 <@Dagmar> I'm workin on that 19:28 <@Dagmar> I suck at the math that uses to 19:28 <@Dagmar> s/to/tho/ 19:29 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: in rl, i would love to chat in length about it, voip, in person, etc 19:29 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure the collapse of eigenstates are what actually makes time 19:29 <@Shadow404> again, my offer on table 19:29 <@Dagmar> Well, if you're at PN we can definitely do that then 19:29 <@Shadow404> yeah 19:30 <@Shadow404> i plan to be this year 19:30 <@Shadow404> due the the -minus skydog factor, im in 19:30 <@Dagmar> When the idea hit me (in the shower) I (for obvious reasons) couldn't write it down 19:30 <@Dagmar> It took me days to figure out wtf epiphany I'd had 19:30 <@Dagmar> It would explkain why simply _observing_ an eigenstate can cause it to change 19:30 <@Shadow404> heh, sorta like getting high 19:31 <@Dagmar> Shit 19:31 <@Shadow404> and having an actuall good idea 19:31 < Mercster> :| 19:31 <@Dagmar> YEah I was thinking this is the sort of shit I used to come up with on LSD 19:31 <@Shadow404> well yeah, we effect the present 19:31 <@Shadow404> sop we effect the future 19:31 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure "present" really has context there 19:31 <@Shadow404> its obvious 19:31 <@Shadow404> well, its the fabric we effect 19:31 <@Shadow404> ok wait a sec 19:31 <@Dagmar> Our existance is sort of riding the probability wave of collectively collapsing eigenstates 19:31 <@Shadow404> got a question for you 19:32 <@Shadow404> eistengate what about large objects gravity effect space time? 19:32 <@Dagmar> I'm still trying to come up with ANY sort of test 19:32 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 19:32 <@Shadow404> well, we prove space time in theorty exist 19:32 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: Beyond the more dense set of eigenstates? 19:32 <@Shadow404> as it can be warped and measured 19:32 <@Shadow404> the nasa experiemtn with super sensitive gyros 19:33 <@Dagmar> This would even explain the weirdness that happens when shit leaves the solar system and appears to speed up for no good reason 19:33 <@Shadow404> the precise radio telementy timing of probes to planets 19:33 < Mercster> Dagmar: how do you feel about eigenstates 19:33 <@Dagmar> Without a chain of eigenstates to communicate those effects, time can become more loosely connected between places over distance, provided there's a lot of nothing in between 19:34 <@Dagmar> Now the real question becomes whether or not you can separate things with a sort of large heisenburgian container, and get differing average states of entropy (eigenstate collapse) 19:34 <@Dagmar> THEN you could do something weird 19:34 <@Dagmar> LIke maybe actually appear to violate causailty 19:34 <@Dagmar> er causality 19:35 <@Dagmar> That one's a stretch, I know 19:35 <@Shadow404> so, change history? 19:35 <@Dagmar> But follow along a moment... If you've got two systems (or create the second by total separation of causality) and the rate of entropy isn't fixed... 19:36 <@Shadow404> in eigenstate theory, can there be a way to move forward with our body, or only backwards? 19:36 <@Dagmar> ...and say, the smaller one can be coerced into decaying more slowly, you'd actually lag behind your initial environment 19:36 <@Shadow404> well, thats been proved dagmar 19:36 <@Shadow404> it has in rl 19:36 <@Shadow404> atmoic lcocks carried by space station astronauts 19:36 <@Dagmar> So you could let local "time" run along it's merry way for awhile, and then exploit that differential when you rejoin the previous collective state 19:37 <@Shadow404> a few ms slower than earth when they come back down 19:37 <@Shadow404> why? because, the warping of space time 19:37 <@Dagmar> It would also explain some shit with respect to strangeness in BIg Bang research 19:37 <@Shadow404> due to the gravity diffrences 19:38 <@Dagmar> I don't think it's gravity doing that unless gravity bringing those individual eigenstates closer to one another causes a pitch shift like can be seen with sound through differing densities of gas 19:38 <@Dagmar> If I figure this shit out tho I'm buying some goddamn lottery tickets 19:38 <@Dagmar> Funding time research should never be a problem once you've got a workable model 19:38 <@Dagmar> :D 19:39 <@Shadow404> thats the idea 19:40 <@Shadow404> gravity forces matter closer, creating warping 19:40 <@Shadow404> eigenstates, would explain the fabric itself 19:40 <@Dagmar> Meh. Matter is a fiction 19:40 <@Shadow404> well, in the sense as we know it 19:41 <@Shadow404> it would explain what is being warped 19:41 <@Dagmar> It was an LSDism but I'm still fairly certain that matter is just space all squished up with a phase transition 19:41 * Mercster stares 19:41 <@Shadow404> if matter didnt exist, why do we react upon dense objects? 19:41 <@Dagmar> Mercster: You remember phase changes from chemistry, right? 19:41 <@Shadow404> Mercster: goto bed, its past your bed time? 19:42 <@Dagmar> To pull some COMPLETELY bullshit numbers out of the air, let's say it takes ten miles of space all squished up to make one hydrogen atom 19:42 <@Shadow404> ok, by comparison, its possible for the amopunt of space in our universe, and when i say our universe, i mean our instance 19:42 <@Dagmar> The energy required to translocate through the space is more or less the same as to crush that out of the way 19:43 <@Shadow404> so comparable to a black hole? 19:43 <@Shadow404> or the dwarfs of ones like a worm hole? 19:43 <@Dagmar> ...with the phase transition energy stored from it's change from "space" to "matter" being the thing that makes it simpler for "matter" to work another way around, so you get displacement instead of a massive violation of physics 19:44 < Mercster> yeah, i remember my first scientific american article 19:46 <@Dagmar> Mercster: So imagine that if you took space and applied force enough to it to compress it (how is sort of beyond this) so that at a certain point, it hits a phase transition and goes from "empty" to "solid" and reaches a new state of stability in that mode 19:47 < Mercster> whoooaaaa duuuuuude 19:48 <@Dagmar> I've given up finding a way to do that, because I'm still a bit stuck looking for a lever to pry with 19:48 <@Dagmar> Gravity is as good a culprit as any at this point tho 19:48 <@Dagmar> ...but I suspect it's as much the force behind it as it may be a side effect. 19:49 <@Dagmar> It might sidestep the entire thing and be both slightly ahead and slightly behind our current collective set of eigenstates tho 19:49 <@Shadow404> so, the force of a collapsing star is what im geting at man 19:49 <@Shadow404> thats the strongest force to man we know of 19:49 <@Dagmar> ...which sort of turns back around into the Juggalo cry of "Magnets! How do they work!??!" which I think is a bad place to be. heheh 19:50 < Mercster> that video is riot. did you see the SNL send-up? 19:50 <@Dagmar> Hehe nah 19:50 <@Dagmar> They could be onto something by sheer luck tho 19:51 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: All I know of that for certain is that it definitely bends rules because by all accounts those things shouldn't be able to compress that much 19:51 < Mercster> i think you're an arm-chair physicist who is spouting a lot of english language with no consideration for the mathematics involved 19:51 < Mercster> which of course is the foundation of any physical theory 19:51 <@Dagmar> It's gotta be going somewhere, and I suspect that somewhere is slightly out of alignment with the rest of the universe 19:51 <@Dagmar> Mercster: The math actually mostly works 19:51 < Mercster> i appreciate that what you're doing is fun, but i have nothing to say about it, since it's just a bunch of mental masturbation 19:52 <@Dagmar> WHat I *don't* have is a "lever" to use to actually begin experimenting 19:52 < Mercster> using the wrong technique to get at a problem 19:52 < Mercster> a problem i fully accept that i cannot understand 19:52 <@Dagmar> I'm serious tho. You can computer matter as a function of space just fine 19:52 < Mercster> because its just too much fucking math. 19:52 < Mercster> computer math as a function of space? 19:52 <@Dagmar> It goes straight into n-dimensional shit tho 19:53 < Mercster> s/math/matter 19:53 <@Dagmar> Yes. THat's Einstien's rubber sheet in a nutshell. 19:54 <@Dagmar> If spaces contracted by a gravity field, travel through warped space and travel through a gravity field become the same thing 19:54 <@Dagmar> s/spaces/space is/ 19:54 <@Shadow404> i like the rubber sheets 19:54 <@Shadow404> teheheh 19:54 < Mercster> the one with suns in it, causing the balls to fall inward? 19:54 <@Dagmar> lol 19:54 <@Dagmar> Mercster: Yes 19:54 < Mercster> the old space-as-a-fabric thing? 19:54 < Mercster> yes, im well aware that it attempts to explain gravity 19:54 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: pm 19:55 <@Dagmar> Well, considewring tat we're stuckin 3-dimensional space like Flatlanders going "WTF" at a cone 19:55 < Mercster> ya, totally bro 19:55 < Mercster> i need some of the weed you're smoking 19:55 <@Dagmar> Maybe so 19:55 < Mercster> then i'd be on top of it 19:55 <@Shadow404> well, going out to get warp juice, alcohol 19:56 <@Shadow404> bbiab 19:56 <@Dagmar> Being stuck in thinking that space is just "the place things are not" is a serious hindrance 19:56 <@Dagmar> A little integral calculus makes it much easier to deal with 19:56 < Mercster> Dagmar: sounds like you ought to be reading philosophy, rather than arm-chair explanation of physics that soun neat but are only vague approximations of the actual science at work 19:57 <@Dagmar> NOt using "arm-chair" explanations 19:57 < Mercster> Dagmar: ever read any heidegger? 19:57 <@Dagmar> I've actually been following the research into eigenstates pretty closely 19:57 <@Dagmar> Wading through boring as FUCK papers 19:57 < Mercster> yes ive seen you say eigenstates a lot 19:57 < Mercster> ive never heard of them 19:57 < Mercster> i dont keep up 19:57 <@Dagmar> You know what an eigenstate is, right? 19:58 < Mercster> nope 19:58 <@Dagmar> An eigenstate is (very much abstracted) the probability that a given particle is in a given space at a given time 19:58 < Mercster> so its not a state but a probability 19:58 < Mercster> is this quantum theory? 19:58 <@Dagmar> When we look THAT damn close, we start seeing that it's really actually partly-here and partly-there, because these tiny ass particles just don't really "exist" in a concrete state 19:59 <@Dagmar> Yes, it's all about quantum theory 19:59 <@Dagmar> ...which just now we're doing hideously expensive experiments to look at 19:59 < Mercster> ok then i understand it on a conceptual level. no particle can be measured to be at one place or one time specifically, and the two metrics are mutually exlusive 20:00 < Mercster> so what you end up with is a probability wave 20:00 <@Dagmar> Wikipedia even has (lol) pictures of them. Oversimplified of course but they get the idea across 20:00 <@Dagmar> Yes! 20:00 < Mercster> and when the wave collapses mathematically, there is a particle 20:00 <@Dagmar> A few moments in the future, the particle doesn't really exist yet because it doesn't actually intersect with the set of planes we're in 20:00 < Mercster> im very familiar with all this. that doesnt mean i understand it :) it's mathematics 20:01 <@Dagmar> So it "exists" entirely in potential until a very specific point, i.e., "now" 20:01 < Mercster> well if you follow quantum mechanics down the rabbit hole, it stans to reason that every one of the subatomic particles that are around us, and that make us up, is continually nihiliating itself and then reappearing 20:02 <@Dagmar> When we actaually look directly at it, we can only see it as it intersects our planes and is basically as concrete as we are 20:02 < Mercster> it's a function of the dimension of time 20:02 <@Dagmar> Yes, there you go. This is why I'm figuring that as eigenstates collapse, we get "time" 20:02 < Mercster> well, listen 20:02 < Mercster> i dont know much about it 20:02 < Mercster> ive only read some arimchair shit 20:03 <@Dagmar> It's their transition from potential and non-intersecting, to concreteness and intersection with our existance in the classic three dimensions 20:03 < Mercster> 'a brief history of time', 'the dancing wu-li masters' 20:03 <@Dagmar> Those are as good a place to start as any I've seen 20:03 < Mercster> i dont care anymore, really :) 20:03 < Mercster> i think its all a sort of "get 1 answer, get 10 more questions" situation 20:03 <@Dagmar> There's an easier/simpler experiment about those 20:03 < Mercster> im glad it goes on 20:04 < Mercster> im not opposed to it 20:04 <@Dagmar> One being the light-through-slits thing 20:04 < Mercster> i study history, civilization 20:04 <@Dagmar> ...but the other simply being taking a photo and projecting it on the wall 20:04 < Mercster> geopolitics 20:04 < Mercster> national politics 20:04 <@Dagmar> When the image is focused, you get nice clean edges 20:04 < Mercster> war 20:04 < Mercster> those are the things i study 20:04 <@Dagmar> Move the focal length in front of or behind the plane you're projecting it on, and you get blur 20:05 < Mercster> i feel i have the capacity to understand something of them 20:05 < Mercster> physics is too much math 20:05 < Mercster> i can parrot whats been explained to me in english 20:05 < Mercster> but the equations themselves are beyond me 20:05 <@Dagmar> Same shit is being projected, it's just not converging on the plane that intersects the projected cone 20:06 < Mercster> you should put this all one a webpage ala TIMECUBE 20:06 < Mercster> it would be hilarious 20:06 <@Dagmar> Well, you can't do integral math in your head like a chinese autistic kid, but you can *catch a baseball* which is the same shit 20:06 < Mercster> http://www.timecube.com/ 20:07 <@Dagmar> Well, I could put it on WIkipedia but without a lever to do experiments with, I'm no better off than the noob technicians in Oslo, and no research budget to test things 20:08 <@Dagmar> So, for now, I have to settle with reading up on other people's research and seeing if my theories fit in with their experimental model 20:09 < Mercster> hah well, ill give you this, wikipedia is shit 20:09 <@Dagmar> Nah, it's as accurate as the body of users will let it be 20:09 <@Dagmar> ...which, driven by a large body of obsessive-compulsives, isn't too shabby 20:09 < Mercster> trying to put something on there is a ridiculous effort of herculean patience and enough time to sit around sword-dicking with trolls` 20:10 < Mercster> there's plenty on there that's ok 20:10 <@Dagmar> If anything the burden of proof on most stuff there is a bit too strict to deal with rare occurrences 20:10 <@Dagmar> LIke, when I was a kid in high school, I saw something on a satellite "wild feed" that made me almost shit my pants 20:11 <@Dagmar> I was watching the video feed of an equipment check prior to Reagan doing a national address. 20:11 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 20:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 20:11 <@Dagmar> Reagan had a slightly warped sense of humor (whichis fine) and he recycled a joke he'd made a few years before 20:12 <@Dagmar> During a sound check for NPR he'd made a joke about outlawing Russia and that nukes would be dropping in a few minutes 20:12 <@Dagmar> That mic was live, and several people in the studio about shit themselves but it wasn't broadcast 20:12 <@CRasH180> hahaha 20:13 <@CRasH180> oops? 20:13 <@Dagmar> So like, I'm at home, about three months after the shuttle explosion when I was unfortunately watching THAT live... 20:13 <@Dagmar> ...and Reagan is sitting there behind his desk and makes that *same joke* again, but this time, obviously, it fucking went out over satellite 20:13 < Mercster> yeah i remember the reagan joke 20:13 <@Dagmar> WP has no documentation of that, and I have no correlating evidence of any kind other than my first-hand seeing it 20:14 < Mercster> im also pretty sure i saw the shuttle explosion at school. but i dont remember, frankly 20:14 <@Dagmar> So I can't actually put that in there as fact. 20:14 < Mercster> i do remember 9/11 20:14 < Mercster> i remember 9/11 with crystal clarity 20:14 < Mercster> that was a weird day 20:14 <@Dagmar> All I've got is the testimony of another friend of mine who was also watching the shuttle explosion 20:14 < Mercster> see, my car happened to die on me outside my work building that morning 20:14 < Mercster> so i left it in the little access road next to work 20:15 <@Dagmar> I practically LEAPT at the phone, but by the time I'd gotten John on the horn, Reagan was already apologizing for freaking people out 20:15 <@Dagmar> Mercster: Someone decided it was a bomb? 20:15 < Mercster> well, in my building was an FBI floor and an IRS floor 20:15 <@Dagmar> OH JOY 20:15 < Mercster> and it just so happens this is 9/11 20:15 < Mercster> i get in, everyone's takling about it 20:15 < Mercster> we're looking at the news 20:15 < Mercster> and then i realise where my car is 20:16 < Mercster> so i got out there and there's like 5-6 rentacops surrounding it 20:16 < Mercster> and sirens 20:16 < Mercster> and im like ITS MY CAR, ITS MY CAR 20:16 <@Dagmar> Hahaha 20:16 < Mercster> so i showed id and we got the car towed 20:17 < Mercster> and i went home and watched the 2nd tower fall 20:17 <@Dagmar> I'm sure they werne't happy with the explanation of "WELL IT WASNT AN ISSUE WHEN I PARKED IT THERE" wasn't woring so well 20:17 < Mercster> well i dont blame them man 20:17 < Mercster> it was a fucked up morning 20:17 <@Dagmar> I wouldnt fault them either 20:17 <@Dagmar> Everyone was freaked that day 20:17 < Mercster> yup 20:17 < Mercster> my world changed 20:17 <@Dagmar> I was giving low-flying planes the stink-eye for weeks 20:18 < Mercster> lots of peoples' did 20:18 < Mercster> heh 20:18 <@Dagmar> Even the Blue Angels caused a vertiable panic that year when they did their annual Buzzing Of San Francisco 20:18 <@Dagmar> We were like OH FUCK THERE'S JETS EVERYWHERE 20:19 <@Dagmar> Oh... There's an airshow? 20:19 <@Dagmar> *facepalm* 20:19 < Mercster> eh im pretty close to an airport 20:19 < Mercster> there's always shit flying off 20:19 <@Dagmar> Well, every year the BLue Angels do an airshow over the Bay 20:19 <@Dagmar> Prior to that they do a lot of flying low over San Fran to show off 20:19 < Mercster> yeah 20:19 < Mercster> prolly a lil loud 20:20 <@Dagmar> Yeah 20:20 <@Dagmar> That and suddenly seeing a squadron of military jets flying back and forth makes you just rush to the nearest TV to check things out 20:20 < Mercster> "shit's poppin' off!" 20:21 <@Dagmar> Yep 20:21 <@Dagmar> I was googling for shelter locations 20:21 <@Dagmar> Like, "yay theres one the next block over!" 20:25 < Mercster> eh, my apt building is like a sehlter 20:25 < Mercster> on a hill, cinderblock and steel 20:25 < Mercster> i just need a nice firearm 20:26 < Mercster> sawed of 12 gauge 20:26 < Mercster> s/of/off 20:27 <@Dagmar> Whoo... SUn is fully down 20:28 <@Dagmar> I can ride home without it IN MY DAMN EYES 20:28 < Mercster> you know what i did the other week 20:28 < Mercster> saw the ISS 20:28 <@Shadow404> i cant tell tonight, been nothing but storms dark since 2 hours ago 20:28 <@Shadow404> Mercster: telescope? 20:28 < Mercster> nope, just watched it with my eyes, go across the sky 20:28 <@Shadow404> thats cool 20:29 < Mercster> yeah 20:29 < Mercster> it was 20:29 <@Shadow404> i wonder if google sky tracks it 20:29 < Mercster> friend of mine had a page that would plot it for a certain logg/lat and time 20:30 < Mercster> lemme see if he's up 20:30 <@Shadow404> i have a program that i use with my 2 meter atenna plugged into a laptop that can pull data off antiquated weather sattelits 20:30 <@Shadow404> really cool stuff 20:30 < Mercster> Shadow404: sweet. you on the radio at all? 20:30 <@Shadow404> aye 20:31 < Mercster> sweet, 2meters? 20:31 <@Shadow404> mainly w4btia and w4doc 20:31 <@Shadow404> Mercster: pm 20:31 <@Shadow404> *w4bti 20:31 < Mercster> word 20:33 < Mercster> http://www.heavens-above.com/ 20:33 < Mercster> that has the ISS graphs 20:35 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@the.narro.ws] has joined #se2600 20:35 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@the.narro.ws] has quit [Changing host] 20:35 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has joined #se2600 20:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 20:57 <@CRasH180> Does anyone still use OpenSolaris at work? 20:58 <@CRasH180> I mean, anyone from this group 20:58 <@[1NF0]> I used OpenSolaris for about 30 minutes back in 2005, does that help? ;) 20:58 <@CRasH180> lol 20:58 <@CRasH180> got yeah 21:04 < Mercster> LESBIAN LOVE 21:16 < Mercster> boys dont cry 21:28 -!- Feltenix [~Tanstaafl@adsl-074-166-075-102.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:19 <@Dagmar> That must have been a loooong thirty minutes 22:20 <@Shadow404> it wasnt 30 min 22:20 <@Shadow404> im drunk now 22:21 < Mercster> welcome to mental impairment 22:21 < Mercster> we've been waiting for you 22:22 <@Shadow404> yeah and mix that with top gear and you got a winning combination 22:22 <@Shadow404> plus the bonus of wife playing wow and getting frisky 22:23 <@Dagmar> WTF 22:23 <@Dagmar> PLaying WoW makes your wife frisky? 22:23 <@Dagmar> You utter bastard. 22:24 <@Shadow404> works for me 22:24 <@Dagmar> I imagine so 22:24 <@Dagmar> We'll have to hook that realid shit up when Cata comes out if it lets you cross-server pug 22:26 <@Dagmar> Ah... At least there's TV 22:26 <@Shadow404> netlix ftw 22:26 <@Shadow404> good tv ftw 22:27 <@Dagmar> I have Eureka in 1080 and Haven in 1080, on a local fileserver now. 22:27 <@Shadow404> nice 22:27 <@Shadow404> but meh 22:27 <@Dagmar> There's precious little else I'd care to watch. 22:27 <@Shadow404> i say, gie me weapn masters, junkyardwars, and that new science channel show in 1080 and ill be golden 22:28 <@Dagmar> And fuck me running but the goddamn PVR is doing the 60fps thing again 22:28 < Mercster> i got a 360 last week 22:28 <@Dagmar> I knew I should have reflashed the fucker 22:28 < Mercster> im enjoying the netflix on it 22:35 <@Shadow404> goin for dps, night all 22:36 <@Dagmar> I suppose I'll take another shot at using ffmpeg to fix this 22:39 -!- Curbob [~curbob@12.97.163.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:43 <@Dagmar> What... the fuck 22:43 < Mercster> WHAT NOW 22:43 <@Dagmar> Someone emo'd up #wowuidev and I was just throwing out some theoreticals trying to help the guy feel better 22:44 <@Dagmar> "Anything short of fucking your sister will probably just be considered a "life lesson" a year from now." 22:44 <@Dagmar> Someone _else_ in the channel goes "What's wrong with that?" 22:45 <@Dagmar> He appears to be serious. 22:47 <@Dagmar> My response: 22:47 <@Dagmar> Okay man, I live in the deep fucking south, and jokes aside... 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