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01:01 < Mercster> actually, it turned out for time for comcast to begin a lengthy, service interrupting software update to the dvr with no warning and erratic behavior
01:01 < Mercster> netflix saves the day
01:04 <@coil_> time warner appared to have bricked my dvr with an update
01:04 <@coil_> shit wont turn on or anything
01:06 < Mercster> mine acted like that for the first 30 minutes, but it seems to be slowly getting things back, bit by bit
01:06 < Mercster> its fuckin weird, and broken
01:06 < Mercster> i hope whoever designed that software push process has been fired
01:07 < Mercster> its still got a weird number incrementing on the LED display
01:07 <@coil_> mines completely dead
01:07 <@coil_> no lights nothing
01:07 < Mercster> suck
01:08 <@coil_> just tried diff outlets
01:08 <@coil_> diff power cable
01:08 <@coil_> nothing
01:08 < Mercster> when did that happen
01:08 < Mercster> tonight
01:08 <@coil_> its a fucking nice ass box
01:08 <@coil_> nah a few nights ago
01:08 < Mercster> luckily my comcast office isnt too far away
01:08 < Mercster> if this doesnt go back to normal i can just switch it out
01:09 <@coil_> http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-video/digital-set-top-box/hdtv-tuners/SMT-H3090/TWC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail
01:10 < Mercster> huh H.264
01:10 < Mercster> ive only had this motorolla thing for 2 days and im pretty much fed up with it
01:11 <@coil_> haha
01:11 <@coil_> Share contents from your SAMSUNG SMT-H3090 with your other networked media devices. Also included is DTCP-IP for home network content protection. You can upgrade to MoCA (Multimedia over Coaxial Alliance) to distribute high-quality multimedia content and high-speed data.
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01:11 <@coil_> damn didn't even know it had a nic on this bitch
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01:12 < Mercster> this thing has every fucking port imaginable on the back
01:12 < Mercster> doubt any of it actually works
01:12 < Mercster> this whole fuckin operation is shoddy
01:13 <@Sheath> mine has more ports
01:15 < Mercster> oh yeah?
01:15 < Mercster> you son of a...
01:16 <@Sheath> sucks i gotta return it for some crappier box
01:18 <@Evilpig> oh Dagmar not sure you would want one.  but if you wanted a collector's edition of cataclysm gamestop was only doing pre-orders for it today.
01:23 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: I'm flat out planning on doing a digital download
01:24 <@Dagmar> If something doesn't come with a novelty map of some kind now, I'm not worrying about a box anymore
01:24 <@Dagmar> I have a BUNCH of maps
01:25 <@Sheath> damn this fuckin box is dead
01:25 < Mercster> mine seems to have come back alive
01:25 <@Dagmar> As soon as I can find somewhere that sells actual wood frames without wanting >$100 a pop for 'em, i'm going to start upgrading all the poster frames I've been putting them in
01:25 < Mercster> i can get to my dvr menu
01:25 <@Sheath> im leaving it unplugged
01:25 <@Dagmar> Mercster: If it went dead stick for awhile it was probably doing an update
01:26 < Mercster> yeah
01:26 < Mercster> so said the comcast goober
01:26 <@Dagmar> They like doing them at this time of night because not so many people are watchign TV
01:26 < Mercster> it was just abrupt and weird (the info button would bring up the parental control screen)
01:26 <@Sheath> this one has a 160gb seagate
01:26 < Mercster> no indication it was an update at all
01:26 < Mercster> Dagmar: yeah, well im a weirdo
01:26 <@Sheath> mine came up with a box that says applying update
01:26 <@Dagmar> Well, Opheria's wouldn't do a damn thing while it was running an update
01:27 <@Sheath> and it never came back
01:27 <@Dagmar> Sheath: Ouch
01:27 <@Sheath> i wish i remember what was said on the lcd
01:27 <@Dagmar> If she had her box "off" when it started the update, it would refuse to even pretend to work
01:27 < Mercster> yeah mine would barely do anything either, no menu, no guide, no nothing, just the weird parental control thing
01:27 < Mercster> but it's back now
01:27 < Mercster> Sheath: i guess id rather have no warning and a successful update, than an announced one that bricked my box
01:27 <@Sheath> it said some shit like b101 or something
01:28 < Mercster> Sheath: it still sucked
01:28 <@Sheath> lets google for dianogstic codes!
01:28 < Mercster> i aint googling for shit
01:28 <@Dagmar> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=883444&page=3
01:28 <@Sheath> i am
01:28 < Mercster> i rent this ass-tasting piece of junk from the cable company
01:29 < Mercster> if this dont work, ill exchange it for another one
01:29 < Mercster> i dont care *what*s wrong with it, i just care that *something* wrong with it
01:29 < Mercster> mine seems fine now tho
01:30 <@Dagmar> Sheath: Post #77 on that link
01:30 < Mercster> i do want the 250G model, the guy said he thought mine was but it aint, its 160G
01:30 <@Sheath> Dagmar, well its completely dead now
01:31 <@Sheath> the green power light used to come on, now it doesn't
01:31 < Mercster> oh mine's resetting again
01:31 < Mercster> this thing is hilarious
01:31 <@Dagmar> Sheath: Well, I'd power it off by unplugging it, then plugging it back in and calling the cable company
01:31 <@Dagmar> It might get done and do something by the time your'e through the hold queue and if it doesn't, well... You've got a tech
01:32 <@Sheath> yeah its been unplugged for 30 mins
01:32 <@Dagmar> The power LEDs on the things aren't really telling you the truth
01:32 < Mercster> it took mine 45 minutes to act like it wasnt completely bricked
01:32 <@Dagmar> They're driven by software
01:32 < Mercster> i figured the HD had died and it reverted to some waterhead mode
01:32 < Mercster> you might just need to wait
01:32 <@Dagmar> Leaving it unplugged for more than about 45s is probably overkill
01:32 <@Sheath> i mean they sent out notices for this software upgrade weeks ago
01:33 < Mercster> nah i meant plugged in
01:33 < Mercster> plugged in for 45 minutes, it wouldnt do shit
01:33 < Mercster> course, if you're not getting a power LED, i guess thats another issue
01:33 <@Dagmar> I was actually directing the 45 seconds tihng at Sheath
01:33 < Mercster> i dunno
01:33 < Mercster> nod
01:34 <@Sheath> yeah it aint turnin on
01:34 < Mercster> suck
01:34 < Mercster> well, yer just renting it, right
01:34 <@Sheath> so this is thie second dvr i've killed some how
01:34 <@Sheath> yeah
01:34 < Mercster> you dont own it
01:35 <@Sheath> the first dvr died within the first week i had it
01:35 <@Sheath> but this new one is fucking nice
01:35 <@Sheath> the old one was a pos sci atl box
01:35 < Mercster> i guess you could clamor for the same model
01:35 <@Dagmar> Dont' take this the wrong way but if you unplugged it at an inopportune moment that might have popped it
01:35 < Mercster> no garunteeing you'll get it
01:36 <@Sheath> Dagmar, i've left it alone for a few days after the software upgrade to see if it would get better
01:36 <@Sheath> and it didn't
01:36 <@Sheath> so then i pulled the plug
01:36 <@Dagmar> OKay wow that's dead then
01:36 <@Dagmar> heh
01:36 <@Sheath> they can jtag the shit though, right?
01:36 <@Dagmar> What?  Reflash it on site?
01:36 <@Dagmar> er in the office?
01:36 < Mercster> no way man
01:36 <@Sheath> well not necessary on site
01:36 <@Sheath> but yeah in general
01:37 < Mercster> they'll just give you a new one
01:37 <@Dagmar> Probably but generally they just ship 'em off
01:37 < Mercster> and yeah, they'll reflash yours and give it to some other poor asshole
01:37 <@Dagmar> Yeah and give you another one
01:37 < Mercster> until it dies on him too
01:37 <@Sheath> yeah give it to some poor asshole to fuck up
01:37 <@Sheath> this shit is in mint condition
01:37 < Mercster> and thats why we all have shitty cableco dvrs
01:37 <@Sheath> still has the plastic wrapping on it
01:37 < Mercster> ive had mine 2 days and im already pretty sure i want a tivo
01:37 <@Sheath> i was ovbiously the first to have it
01:38 < Mercster> it cant be worse
01:38 <@Sheath> i've heard tivos are good
01:38 <@Sheath> cept for subscription
01:38 <@Dagmar> They are
01:38 < Mercster> yeah i have several friends who like theirs
01:38 <@Dagmar> THeir whole "Find shit I like" feature is EVIL
01:38 <@Dagmar> It gets REALLY good at figuring you out
01:38 < Mercster> netflix does something similar
01:38 < Mercster> its pretty cool
01:39 <@Dagmar> Well, up until the point you feel like someone's got your number and is force-feeding you media you can't resist
01:39 <@Dagmar> "BUT I REALLY DO WANT TO WATCH IT!"
01:39 < Mercster> heh
01:39 <@Dagmar> Rattle can testify to that
01:39 < Mercster> netflix isnt perfect tho, sometimes ill find a screwball comedy in 'documentaties'
01:39 < Mercster> or something weird
01:39 < Mercster> but it's workable
01:48 <@Sheath> well they weren't much help
01:49 <@Sheath> they can't do anything if the stb isn't getting power
01:49 <@Sheath> they dont even try to toubleshoot it
01:51 < Mercster> not cost effective
01:52 <@Dagmar> They can give you the address and office hours for where to get a replacement
01:53 <@Sheath> yeah its at the uni
01:53 <@Sheath> where i got this box from
01:53 <@Sheath> open 9 to 7 tomorrow
01:54 <@Sheath> i could be lazy and have them drive here
01:54 <@Sheath> but i need to get out of the house
01:54 <@Sheath> they had one appointment open inbetween 5-7
02:10 <@Evilpig> guess I best go get on this inventory nonsense
02:18 < Mercster> i reckon
02:45 <@Dagmar> ROFL
02:45 <@Dagmar> Watching Warehouse 13 now
02:45 <@Dagmar> Timothy Leary's glasses are win
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03:03 < fie> My poor mother left me
03:03 < fie> when I was quite young
03:04 < fie> she said, "please have mercy on my wicked son" on my wicked son
03:04 <@Sheath> nice split
03:09 < fie> inorite
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08:59 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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09:23 < todd> disqus was 'down for maintenance' this morning
09:36 <@Shadow404> going to a live showing from mst3k actors
09:37 <@Dolemite> stranger!
09:40 <@Shadow404> i know
09:43 <@Shadow404> i was about to make it to the out the other saturday
09:43 <@Shadow404> but my jeep broke down
09:43 <@Shadow404> i got a new jeep though
09:43 <@Shadow404> 2006 jeep liberty
09:50 <@Dolemite> cool
09:50 <@Dolemite> I'm moving to Oak Ridge on Saturday
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10:16 <@Shadow404> wheres that?
10:16 <@Dolemite> about 20 minutes outside of Knoxville
10:25 <@Shadow404> sw or what?
10:26 <@Dolemite> You know where I-75 meets up with I-40?  Right around there.  West of Knoxville.
10:27 <@Dolemite> Home of 2 out of the 3 fastest supercomputers in the world.
10:27 <@Dolemite> (No. 1 and No. 3)
10:34 < Evilpig> i'll be driving through oak ridge both later tonight and again on monday
10:35 <@Dolemite> The next time you come through you may have to swing in for a tour
10:35 < Evilpig> I fly through there in the middle of the night
10:35 < Evilpig> the shell station there in oak ridge closes at night too.  there isn't shit open late
10:36 <@Dolemite> Are you sure you're actually going through Oak Ridge, or just one of the exits from the interstate?
10:36 <@Dolemite> Oak Ridge doesn't actually extend to the interstate
10:36 <@Dolemite> It's a decent sized small town - about 40,000 population
10:36 < Evilpig> whatever is right next to the interstate.  the sign says oak ridge
10:37 <@Dolemite> Yeah, that's not Oak Ridge, just the exit for the road going to Oak Ridge
10:37 <@Dolemite> The lab is between the town and the interstate
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12:32  * Dolemite is back from lunch at Monell's...  time for a nap
12:32 <@ware> tomorrow your last day dole?
12:33 <@Dolemite> today
12:33 <@ware> grats
12:34 <@Dolemite> I feel like I'm coming down with something, Mr. Holey toe
12:34 <@Dolemite> My boss is taking off tomorrow, so I'll be damned if I'm coming in!
12:34 <@ware> haha
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12:37 <@Dolemite> so tomorrow I'll be working on the handyman list for the house, and taking my car in for service before I move out on Saturday
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12:54 <@Shadow404> man so excited about mst3k live tonight
12:54 <@Sheath> who
12:54 <@Sheath> nm
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13:08 <@sasquatc4> mst2k live???
13:08 <@sasquatc4> what what?
13:08 <@sasquatc4> 3k
13:50 <@Shadow404> yeah
13:50 <@Shadow404> riff trax
13:50 <@Shadow404> at barret commons 24
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14:04 <@sasquatc4> nice
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14:48 <@Dagmar> FUCK
14:48 <@Dagmar> http://www.newschannel5.com/global/story.asp?s=13012574
14:48  * Dagmar goes to look outside
14:49 <@Dagmar> Yep.  Water's fucking high alrught
14:56 <@Corydon76-dig> At what point does Gaylord start thinking that maybe rebuilding Opry Mills at a higher level might be worth the effort?
14:56 <@Dagmar> Oh it HOPEFULLY won't flood that high
14:57 <@Dagmar> I will be a very angry guy if I lose electricity for another week
14:57 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm not thinking 52 feet again, but 45 would get uncomfortable
14:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Ditto for the water plant
14:58 <@Dagmar> Dude, get this
14:58 <@Corydon76-dig> and given that Opry Mills has to be rebuilt from the foundation up, I figured they might as well build it a bit higher this time around
14:59 <@Dagmar> My scooter which would not start because of either no spark or no fuel getting into the cylinder, got to the repair shop and exhibited a wholly different set of symptoms, AGAIN
14:59 <@Dagmar> Wilbur can attest to what it was doing.
14:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Either that or they get rid of their eight foot privacy wall around the parking lot and replace it with a concrete levy
14:59 <@Dagmar> They're replacing the auto-bystarter because it _started_ for them fine, but would just die half the time after a few seconds
14:59 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-dig: That's probably a good idea
15:00 <@Dagmar> If the bike does this one more time, I'm having them fix it, then I'm going to drive it off the property, smash a turn signal with a hammer, roll it back to them, and see what is broken
15:01 <@Corydon76-dig> I just don't understand rebuilding a multimillion structure at EXACTLY the same level as before when the river that runs next to it had it inundated under 3 feet of water
15:01 <@Dagmar> To preserve my sanity, I'm going with "the loose connection was fixed during diagnostics"
15:01 <@Dagmar> It's not supposed to flood that often here.
15:01 <@Dagmar> Hey, I've got an idea....
15:01 <@Dagmar> Two birds with one stone even!
15:01 <@Dagmar> Let them build the whole damn thing on risers, and put a lake under it.
15:02 <@Dagmar> :)
15:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
15:02 <@Dagmar> They could have a giant waterpark
15:02 <@Dagmar> We're about due to build another lake anyway
15:03 <@Corydon76-dig> I'd rather see them build the ground floor about 4 feet higher and add a second story to the mall
15:04 <@Dagmar> 4 feet is deep enough for paddleboats
15:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, 1 foot is enough for paddleboats
15:05 <@Corydon76-dig> and extend the mall over the road, such that you can board the General Jackson directly from the mall
15:06 <@Corydon76-dig> and an elevated walkway to the hotel, so you can move between the two locations in winter without needing to put on a heavy coat
15:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Parking garage wouldn't be a bad idea, either
15:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Fuck having to go way out in the cold to get to your car
15:21 <@sasquatc4> anyone wanna buy an ableton akai version license?  Just figured Id throw it out there, sold off one of mine so I got one left
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15:43 <@Dolemite> Gaylord hasn't owned Opry Mills for years
15:44 <@Dolemite> The reason why they haven't released a re-opening date for the mall is that they're trying to keep it quiet that they built the end with the movie theater on it over a sinkhole, which the flooding in May eroded their fill out of...   Regal is one of the tenants that has not committed to coming back
16:04 <@Dagmar> Uh oh.  Scott Kozicki put on FB that Bosco's was "literally" on fire
16:10 <@Dagmar> Doh http://www.wsmv.com/slideshow/news/19527988/detail.html
16:22 < fall0ut> whats up?
16:25 < oddball> Dagmar: what's going on in those two pictures?
16:26 <@Dagmar> Apparently there was a bit of a fire at the Bosco's in Cool Springs
16:26 < fall0ut> oh
16:26 < fall0ut> cool springs me
16:26 < fall0ut> h
16:27 < oddball> Ah, ok... WSMV apparently thinks that actually explaining what the hell's going on in random pictures is too hard.
16:27 < Gerdesas> heh
16:28 < oddball> So, all I got was "here's a building in Franklin and a firetruck."
17:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Here, kitty kitty... http://photos.newschannel5.com/displayimage.php?album=368&pos=10
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18:56 < daswork> I want:  http://imvotingteaparty.com/design/socialsecurity/
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20:11 <@Dagmar> daswork: Why?
20:11 <@Dagmar> Wouldn't it be a lot easier (and more useful) to just get a yellow padded helmet and wear a sticker with your name and emergency numbers on it?
20:12 <@Dagmar> 1. The fucking govenrment already run the Social Security program.
20:12 <@Dagmar> 2. The took all the money out of it and spent it back in the fucking 80's.
20:12 <@Dagmar> 3. The tea party people are fucking retarded.
20:12 <@Dagmar> Their intent doesn't matter.  They're fucking morons.
20:14 <@Dagmar> ...
20:14 <@Dagmar> This having been said, I wonder if Cafe Press will freak out about a parody of that shirt.
20:14 <@Dagmar> "I'm a moron -- That's why I'm voting TEA PARTY"
20:21 < daswork> Dagmar: I'm in Minnesota, we're a tad more liberal.
20:21 < daswork> Also, check the website.
20:21 < daswork> It's supposed to be funny.
20:22 < daswork> http://imvotingteaparty.com/design/firedept/
20:22 < daswork> http://imvotingteaparty.com/design/gaysvote/
20:25 < epoxy_> wow
20:28 < daswork> The only problem with the gays voting one is that a teabagger probably wouldn't get the joke.
20:43 <@mfph> politics sucks.
20:44 <@mfph> i hate teapartyers. some defaced my vehicle at my old work for an obama sticker. but their radio stations have better traffic reports.
20:46 <@mfph> i nearly went apeshit over the color-on-the-truck episode though, i didn't name names but i took it to hr.
20:47 <@mfph> don't color on ppls vehicles with markers.
20:47 <@mfph> shit is wrong.
20:47 <@mfph> lol
20:51 <@mfph> they crossed out the obama stuff and wrote 'idiot on board' in big letters.
20:51 <@mfph> my wife takes that thing to drop off our daughter at school. shit ain't right.
20:57 < daswork> Shoot them.
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21:39 <@Dagmar> daswork: Oh!  The shirt is a joke?  Okay.  Heheh
21:40 < daswork> Dagmar: It probably says something about the tea party that the sarcasm isn't apparent.
21:40 <@Dagmar> Well, yeah.  As far as politics go they're practically the fuckin Troll Party
21:41 <@Dagmar> Any useful message their people are emitting is absolutely drowned out by the nutjobs they seem unable to purge from their ranks
21:41 < daswork> What, you mean that Obama isn't secretly a Communist Muslim Kenyan?
21:41  * daswork is shocked, shocked he says.
21:41 <@Dagmar> THeir unwillingness to tell Sarah Palin to go find someone else to promote isn't helping
21:41 <@Dagmar> hahh
21:41 < daswork> It's a shame.  I'm partial to the theory that government is inefficient.
21:42 < daswork> But they are the pure whargarbl party.
21:42 <@Dagmar> I don't think that's a theory
21:42 < daswork> We have a tea party guy running for governor in our state.  I hate his fucking guts.
21:42 < daswork> Our previous governor (he's running for prez) thinks that randomly making cuts in the govenrment is the way to go.
21:43 <@Dagmar> Complete transparency is probably the way to go
21:43 < daswork> Aye.
21:43 <@Dagmar> The only bitch is that the sector that's MOST out of control is the one that would be most negatively affected by it
21:43 <@Dagmar> Military spending is insane.
21:43 < daswork> Yep.
21:43 < daswork> It is.
21:44 < daswork> But here's the tea party:  OMG EXTENDING JOBLESS BENEFITS?  INVESTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE TO CREATE JOBS?  COMMUNISM!
21:44 <@Dagmar> Frankly, what I'd like to see is it be required that politicians publish all their finances while they're in office
21:45 <@Dagmar> daswork: YEah that's something generally only espoused by people who have *never* been unemployed for any length of time
21:45 < daswork> I have no idea what the tea party's beef with infrastructure is.  IMO, that's the role of government.
21:45 <@Dagmar> About the only thing unemployement gets you is the ability to not starce
21:45 <@Dagmar> er starve
21:45 < daswork> Government shouldn't be picking winners and losers in the economy.  It should just provide the infrastructure so all businesses can compete equally.
21:46 <@Dagmar> daswork: Well, _that right there_ is the magic of buzzwords, formerly known as 'jingoism' if I'm not mistaken
21:46 <@Dagmar> It doesn't matter if the statement makes any sense, just that it gets people riled up
21:46 < daswork> By the way, if Pawlenty (our current gov) gets prez in 2010, I already extend my pity.
21:46 < daswork> Shit doesn't stick to him.  He's teflon.
21:47 <@Dagmar> Well, maybe we can get the shills to STFU for long enough to throw that fuckng crook Blago in jail
21:48 < daswork> Blago was a dem, I thought.
21:48 < Gerdesas> Still is.
21:48 < daswork> Dems seem to be quite willing to look the other way when it comes to corruption.  One of the weaknesses in the party, I think.
21:48 < Gerdesas> The machine won't disown him.
21:48 <@Dagmar> Because let's face it... If the prevailing wind turns things towards not prosecuting people just because it's really expensive or complex to do so, people like *me* are going to be tempted to switch to crime
21:49 <@Dagmar> daswork: I don't think that's limited to Democrats, actually
21:49 < daswork> Not really.
21:49 < daswork> But their support base seems more willing to tolerate it, IMO.
21:49 < daswork> Especially in primaries.
21:50 < daswork> If it wasn't for the constitutional restrictions, I think the Terminator would be a strong candidate in 2010 for the Reps.
21:50 < daswork> He's not totally batshit crazy.
21:50 < Gerdesas> Something that is often overlooked: Blago was the first Dem governor in Illannoyed since Walker.  And Walker got convicted and served time for a S&L fiasco in the 80s.
21:50 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but he's a conservative bitch tho
21:50 <@Dagmar> Seeing the Governator stay *out* of the Prop 8 thing was fucking awful
21:50 < Gerdesas> (I spent 34 years in Illannoyed, I get to call it that :) )
21:51 < daswork> He's a conservative, but by Rep standards, he's near a hippie.
21:51 <@Dagmar> Yeah but Prop 8 was wrong on princples of how laws are supposed to fucking WORK
21:51 <@Dagmar> You simply can NOT have a bill that restricts minorities pass on a _popular vote_
21:52 < daswork> Yeppers.
21:52 < Gerdesas> When the religious right gets involved do principles still matter?
21:52 <@Dagmar> If that were kosher, Memphis and Atlanta could outlaw white people tomorrow.
21:52 < daswork> But in his defense, once it lost in court, he was like "okay, let them get married."
21:52 <@Dagmar> They completely overlook that problem in this debate because the "moral" issue apparently sells fuckin' papers
21:52 <@Dagmar> BY THE WAY...
21:52 < daswork> 90% of the Elephant party would be decrying the fall of civilizaton.
21:53 <@Dagmar> CNN's complete shift in stance after Olbermann's latest epic rant is pretty funny
21:53 < daswork> Oh?
21:53 <@Dagmar> OH yeah
21:53 < daswork> I gave up watching CNN when they decided Lohan was headline news.
21:53 < daswork> I honestly prefer Fark.com to CNN.
21:53 <@Dagmar> Before they were airing stories about "Should there be a mosque next to Ground Zero" and talking about the "Ground Zero Mosque: and shit
21:53 < daswork> By the way, congrats Murfreeburo.
21:53 < daswork> You make the ground zero Mosque guys look sane.
21:54 <@Dagmar> Olbermann dropped a big ol' bomb about that on MSNBC and just like the last time, CNN said "WHoops!  We need to look more closely"
21:54 < daswork> WTF is up with Nashville and Muslims?
21:54 <@Dagmar> So last night they were all about "Wow... There's going to be a community center with basketball courts?  It's not acutally a mosque?  Oh, and they haven't acutally *gotten* any funding yet so there's nothing to be transparent about?"
21:54 < daswork> We had the goddamn 20th hijacker (well he wasn't, the 9/11 guys seem to have thought he was a flake) here, and we're not as rabidly anti-Muslim.
21:54 <@Dagmar> daswork: We have a lot of morons
21:55 < daswork> Incidentally, my congresscritter is the one Muslim in congress.
21:55 < daswork> He'll survive re-election as well, even though the FBI has an ongoing investigation here about terrorism funding.
21:55 < daswork> AFAICT, he's a good guy.
21:58 < daswork> Y'know, considering this channel will get into holy wars over technical issues, and yet we can still have a fruitful political discussion even though 90% of America cannot, is pretty fucking sad.
22:12 <@Dagmar> That's because we're always looking to find "the answer" where most people's idea of argumentation is simply trying to prove the other person wrong, which is a bad basis for an argument to end up with a productive result
22:13 < daswork> True.
22:13 <@Dagmar> WE get into holy wars, either for sheer sport, or resulting in everyone coming to a more reasonable middle ground
22:13 < daswork> Also, I think #se2600 is a bit jaded even about politicians and parties they tend to vote for.
22:13 <@Dagmar> PFfft.  I think we're more realistic is all
22:13 < daswork> We understand that everyone's shit stinks, we are just looking for the shit that stinks less.
22:14 <@Corydon76-dig> My shit don't stink.
22:14 <@Corydon76-dig> (much)
22:16 < daswork> We're also old farts.
22:16 < daswork> Zealotry is for the young.
22:16 <@Dagmar> ...and the narrow-minded
22:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Nah, we all can be zealots on one thing or another
22:18 <@Corydon76-dig> The difference is, we hold our ideals up because we've examined and challenged them, not because we've been told what to believe
22:18 < daswork> VIM RULES, BIATCHES!
22:19 < daswork> Corydon76-dig: Did you hear, btw?  I think I found a woman for me.
22:20 <@Corydon76-dig> daswork: does she have a penis?
22:21 < daswork> Nope.
22:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Is she menopausal?
22:21 < daswork> Nope.
22:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Are you sure?
22:22 <@Corydon76-dig> "Nope."
22:22 < daswork> Yes.
22:25 <@Dagmar> Someone near Bongo is a *dick*
22:26 <@Dagmar> They were just laying into their horn non-stop for about a minute
22:26 <@Dagmar> I thought it was the goddamn CD siren for a bit there
22:27 <@Corydon76-dig> CD?
22:27 < daswork> Civil defense.
22:27 < daswork> The reds are after Dagmar.
22:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
22:27 < daswork> WOLVERINES!
22:27 <@Dagmar> Remember, emergecy services is just up the hill
22:27 <@Corydon76-dig> only way I know of it is as a tornado siren
22:28 <@Corydon76-dig> since that's what prompted city government to install them
22:32 <@Dagmar> Well, they were *there* already.
22:32 <@Dagmar> Most of them were just not working anymore because they were no longer being maintained.
22:33 <@Dagmar> I can say this for certain because I actually threw the switch on the one atop Love Circle one night to prove it
22:33 <@Dagmar> (and yes, I was a bit drunk)
22:34 <@Dagmar> (otherwise, sounding something like that isn't something I'd do to prove a point)
22:51 <@Corydon76-dig> I think it was the storms in 1999 that prompted the tornado sirens, whatever the previous status was
22:52 <@Corydon76-dig> and the Vandy grad who was killed in Centennial Park, whose parents sued the city
22:58 <@Dagmar> YEah suddenly getting that equipment running again became a thing they cared about
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