--- Log opened Wed Aug 11 00:00:10 2010 --- Day changed Wed Aug 11 2010 00:00 < daswork> fie: What's your cost for spice locally? 00:00 < daswork> I seem to recall it being $20/oz or $40/3 oz. 00:00 < fie> I don't know, I don't touch the stuff. 00:00 < fie> it's crap. 00:00 < daswork> But Mercster says I'm full of shit. 00:00 < daswork> So I could be wrong. 00:00 <@Dagmar> I can get some nice cinnamon real cheap down at the Kroger's 00:00 < daswork> All I remember is that it was about 5 doses, and metallic taste/ADHDish effects. 00:00 < fie> As I recall it's generally about 30 dollars for 3 grams. 00:00 <@Dagmar> It would _probably_ be more fun to smoke than k2 00:00 < fie> that was for k2 00:00 < Mercster> fie: correct 00:00 < daswork> Mercster: Perhaps you are right. 00:00 < Mercster> fie: thats *perfectly* realistic 00:01 < daswork> As I said, I tried it once. 00:01 < fie> not really... 00:01 < fie> that's expensive as fuck 00:01 < fie> jwh-018 is cheap 00:01 < Mercster> fie: daswork said it was $40/3 ounces 00:01 < Mercster> i think he's confusing grams and ounces 00:01 < fie> if you make it yourself sure. 00:01 < daswork> I see JWH-018 as $50/100 mg. 00:01 < fie> no... 00:01 < Mercster> he also seems to confuse cocks and clitorises 00:01 < daswork> And the effective dose of JWH-018 being 10 mg. 00:01 < Mercster> so im not surprised 00:01 <@Dagmar> At least then you'd know what kind of herbal tea you were smoking 00:01 < daswork> IIRC. 00:01 < fie> it's $30 for 500mg 00:01 < daswork> fie: Jebus! 00:01 < daswork> Source? 00:01 < fie> and a standard smoking dose is about 4mg 00:01 < fie> 3-5 00:02 < daswork> fie: Incidentally, there is some debate the the JWH-family of compounds is generally toxic. 00:02 < daswork> OTOH, probably not more toxic than smoking a joint. 00:02 < fie> Oh I mean... yeah... $50 for 100mg... I'll hook you up yo! I'll let you aquire 100mg for $40 00:02 < fie> :P 00:02 < daswork> Dude, I took the stuff. 00:02 < daswork> Because a friend took it, and because it came up in the news. 00:03 < fie> If you eat jwh-018 it takes like 4 hours to get any effect. 00:03 < daswork> Trust me, smoking it is the best argument against not smoking it. :p 00:03 < fie> my gf ate some and then went to sleep and had to go to work high as fuck 00:03 < daswork> Heh. 00:03 < daswork> MDMA did that to me. 00:03 < daswork> That shit really fucks with serotonin. 00:03 < daswork> Otherwise, as a drug, it does not much to me. 00:03 < daswork> I get happy, that's it. 00:03 < Mercster> maybe you should worry about how many grams are in an ounce before schooling us on brain chemistry 00:04 < Mercster> you fucking know-nothing 00:04 < daswork> For about 4 hours, I find peace in my life. 00:04 < Mercster> shut up 00:04 < fie> thc/jwh-018 are canniboid/gaba receptor agonists 00:04 < fie> jwh-018 is full agonist though 00:04 < fie> also cocks. 00:04 < daswork> Mercster: 31,1 grams in an ounce. :p (Technicaly true,( 00:04 <@Dagmar> That pretty much sums up MDMA 00:05 < fie> I am on o-2482 atm 00:05 < daswork> Dagmar: Also, for the next 8 hours, I try to find sleep. 00:05 <@Dagmar> Hahah good luck with that 00:05 < daswork> As I said, that shit fucks with serotonin. 00:05 < fie> HSSRA 00:05 <@Dagmar> Easier to sleep if you've spent the last five hours dancing 00:05 < fie> highly selective serotonin receptor agonist 00:05 < daswork> If it wasn't the norm to spike X with amph or meth, I'd be so willing to buy a roll. 00:06 <@Dagmar> Small doses plus excercise... not that bad of a deal 00:06 < daswork> Everything around twin cities is pretty meth-y. 00:06 < daswork> :( 00:06 < fie> MDAI is non-neurotoxic 00:06 <@Dagmar> The shit it gets spiked with makes my angry face come out 00:06 < daswork> fie: Isn't MDA as well? 00:06 < fie> dunno 00:07 < Mercster> daswork: there are 28 grams in an ounce 00:07 < daswork> Mercster: Google troy ounce. 00:07 < daswork> I have silver bars that are one troy ounce. 00:07 < daswork> They aren't 28 grams. 00:07 < fie> there are over 9000 dicks in your ass... you guys need to change the subject before merc starts setting hobos on fire 00:07 < daswork> Aye. 00:08 <@Dagmar> IT'S OVER 9000! 00:08 < fie> o-2482 is like snorting pvc fumes 00:08 < daswork> But I will say, having tried MDMA, I can understand why it was used in psychology before being outlawed. 00:08 <@Dagmar> deswork: Yep 00:08 < daswork> It isnt the cure for problems. But it resets some paradigms. 00:08 < fie> daswork, yeah, but I'm sure it was at lower doses. 00:08 < Mercster> You have: 1 ounce 00:08 < Mercster> You want: grams * 28.349523 00:08 <@Dagmar> fie: Actually no 00:08 < fie> oh? 00:08 < daswork> Mercster: Troy uonce. 00:08 <@Dagmar> Now, the _Nazis_ used it at lower doses 00:09 < daswork> Mercster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_ounce 00:09 < fie> nazi's used it to heal wounds 00:09 < Mercster> daswork: noone weighs drugs in troy ounces 00:09 < fie> HOW ABOUT THAT SHIT! 00:09 < Mercster> daswork: you colossal dumbfuck 00:09 < daswork> Mercster: Not talking drugs. Precious metals. 00:09 < fie> Mercster, I weigh my dick in troy ounces. 00:09 < daswork> I have a few silver ingots. 00:09 < daswork> And silver rounds. 00:09 < daswork> ;) 00:09 <@Dagmar> I can see someone with a gunshot wound to the leg sayin "Wow that feels pretty groovy now" after a heaping dose of MDMA 00:09 < Mercster> Mercster: Locally, I think it's $20/ounce, $40 for 3 ounces. 00:10 < fie> I'm pretty sure it was directly applied to the wound.... I'm not sure though. 00:10 < Mercster> did you mean troy ounces there? 00:10 < daswork> Dagmar: I could see the person saying "damn, this hurts like a fuck, but guys and gals, it means so much that you all love me." 00:10 <@Dagmar> Either way, with the things it gets cut with so fucking often, it's just not really worth bothering with 00:10 < fie> no clue... hitler was an artist. 00:10 < Mercster> Dagmar: heh. true, ecstacy makes almost anything feel good 00:10 < daswork> So, true story, didn't try smoking before I was 30. 00:10 < daswork> I never knew nicotine made you high. 00:11 < fie> whenever I eat M&M's I like to scream "melt in my mouth bitch!" and then tip the bag back. 00:11 < daswork> lNot a great high, but if you aren't exposed to it, a high. 00:11 < fie> the red dye in M&M's is made from beetle shells. 00:11 <@Dagmar> SNOPES. 00:11 <@Dagmar> GO. 00:11 < daswork> fie: Yep, I'm vegan. 00:11 <@Dagmar> NAO. 00:11 < daswork> The red die is not vegan. :( 00:11 < fie> daswork, That means you can't eat bugles! 00:11 < fie> Bugles are effing delicious. 00:11 < fie> Ask anyone. 00:11 < Mercster> fuck vegans 00:12 < fie> All the ducks are swimming in the water. 00:12 < daswork> As long as I can lick cunt, I'm happy. 00:12 < fie> Mercster, rape... 00:12 < fie> Can vegans be cannibals? 00:12 < daswork> Really, if this gal I'm seeing work as a LTR, I'm so tempted to burn bridges with my family. 00:13 < daswork> My family, on my mother's side, tends towards Pentacostalism. 00:13 < fie> Burn mother fucker burn 00:13 < daswork> (If you know that that is, you are shuddering). 00:13 < daswork> This gal works at a Planned Parenthood. 00:13 <@Dagmar> Nah just rolling around a bit 00:13 < Mercster> im not a pentacostal, but i am a christian 00:13 < daswork> Mercster: Southern Xian? 00:14 <@Dagmar> OKay maybe a little bit speaking in tongues, but who's counting 00:14 < Mercster> the fact that you dont know what an ounce compared to a gram is, makes me shudder more than anything pentacostalism has to offer 00:14 < daswork> Dagmar: I've seen that. 00:14 < Mercster> daswork: im non-denominational 00:14 < daswork> Glossolia is impressive as fuck. 00:14 < daswork> I'm Unitarian Universalism. 00:14 < Mercster> not southern or northern or eastern or western 00:14 < daswork> Which means I don't give a damn. :p 00:14 < Mercster> just a christian 00:14 <@Dagmar> I've seen it from people who were too high, so don't expect me to find a babbling fundamentalist very interesting 00:14 < Mercster> yeah unitarian univeralists are hardly christians 00:14 < Mercster> its like somewhere to go on sunday mornings if you're confused 00:15 < daswork> Mercster: Really, UU is everything. 00:15 < Mercster> if you feel the need to wear a tie on sundays but dont believe in God go to a UU "church" 00:15 < daswork> UU is "I like church music on Sundays" religion. 00:15 < Mercster> yup 00:15 <@Dagmar> more like "Hippie Christianity" 00:15 < daswork> Yep. 00:15 <@Dagmar> or maybe "Hippie Atheism" 00:15 < Mercster> Dagmar: it's not even that christian 00:16 < daswork> There's a cute lesbian couple at my church. 00:16 < Mercster> yeah hippie agnosticism 00:16 < daswork> Has a kid and everything. 00:16 <@Dagmar> We can be pretty sure of one thing tho 00:16 <@Dagmar> Those people will never be any good at suicide bombinh 00:16 < daswork> UU is "fuck this god question, singing in church is fun!" 00:16 < Mercster> UU is "i feel the need to congregate on sunday mornings, but i dont know why" 00:17 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:17 <@Dagmar> To remind your fellow man that it's okay to "be cool to each other" 00:17 < Mercster> heh 00:17 < Mercster> and hey, i mean no offense to UU people 00:17 < daswork> Dagmar: It's not that we aren't good at suicide bombings, its just that the UU god/goddess/gods/whatever understands if we've had one too many vodka redbulls the night before and can't make it. 00:17 < Mercster> but honestly, calling them christian is a stretch 00:17 < Mercster> its more of a sort of generic feel-good spiritual thing 00:18 < daswork> Yep. 00:18 < daswork> UU is ritual. 00:18 < daswork> It's good ritual. 00:18 <@Dagmar> Yes, which is more or less the message Jesus brought 00:18 < daswork> But it's ritua. 00:18 < Mercster> without adhering to any certain faith 00:18 <@Dagmar> They _act_ like decent christians 00:18 <@Dagmar> Just different stationery 00:18 < daswork> For religion that's Christianity but like UU, amazingling enough, liberal Quakerism is where it's at. 00:18 * fie smokes his last cig. 00:18 < daswork> I stopped smoking. 00:18 < daswork> American Spirits yellows. 00:19 < Mercster> Dagmar: "no man comes to the father but through me" is what Christ taught (among other good things), and UU doesnt qualify. not that i think where you go on sundays determines your salvation or not. but it isnt a church in the sense of, a congregation of believers in a certain faith, including Christianity 00:19 < fie> Do you know how many buffalos died to make those cigs? And you call yourself a vegan!? 00:19 < Mercster> we can be as polite as we want about UU, but it isnt "christian" 00:20 < daswork> fie: :p 00:20 <@Dagmar> Rather obviously. 00:20 < daswork> Mercster: UUCF would be "Christian". UU is not. 00:20 <@Dagmar> I'm quite aware that one needs to WORSHIP JESUS to be a Christian, thanks 00:20 < Mercster> daswork: dunno what UUCF is 00:20 <@Dagmar> I was put in a Church of Christ until I was about five and started asking some pointed questions 00:20 <@Dagmar> So yes, I am aware how that works. 00:20 < daswork> Mercster: Univeral Unitarian Christian Fellowship. 00:21 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah, _also started the Pagan Student Union_ when I was in college. 00:21 <@Dagmar> Kinda familiar with religions in general actually. 00:21 < daswork> Think "universal" and "unitarian" in the Chistian theologic definitions. 00:21 < Mercster> Dagmar: i was a member of a church of christ for awhile. before my stint as a buddhist. they has some wonky ideas 00:21 < Mercster> like playing instruments during service is a sin 00:21 <@Dagmar> "Why can't women speak on the stage?"" 00:21 < Mercster> and that communion cant include fermented wine 00:21 < Mercster> but i love 'em 00:21 <@Dagmar> You start asking the female Sunday School teacher about aldermen and watch 'em squirm 00:22 < Mercster> i disagree with them, but i love them 00:22 <@ware> ? 00:22 <@ware> utrollin? 00:22 <@Dagmar> ware: CoC is fairly misogynist in their organization 00:22 < Mercster> same with catholics, i believe with tons of what they do and believe, but i love catholics as individuals. i think they're doing the best they can, as far as they've been taugfht 00:22 < Mercster> erm 00:23 <@Dagmar> ...and unlike various sections of Judaism, can't ever really come up with even a half-assed explanation as to why 00:23 < Mercster> i DONT believe with tons of what they do and believe 00:23 < Mercster> i messed that one up 00:23 <@Dagmar> At least a decent Rabbi can tell you why there's just male rabbis 00:23 < daswork> Incidentally, for the non-religious, "unitarian" means Christians that only beieved in God and though Jesus was a prophet, nothing ore. 00:23 < daswork> Er, more. 00:23 < Mercster> Dagmar: well the new testament is replete with female teachers. even one of the judges of israel (deborah) was a woman! 00:23 < Mercster> so, yeah 00:24 < Mercster> denying women a role in teaching/preaching is unbiblical 00:24 < daswork> "univeral", means Christians that though everyone, eventually, were saved. 00:24 < Mercster> of course so is the celibacy of the "priesthood" 00:24 < daswork> A wrongness, IMO. 00:25 < Mercster> there's plenty wrong with most denominations, what's important is what individuals believe; noone is judges based on the name or label on the outside of the church they attend 00:25 < Mercster> God judges individuals 00:25 < Mercster> and thank goodness that no man or woman is judge of another :) 00:26 <@Dagmar> HAHAHA 00:26 <@Dagmar> Yeah like CoC really believe that one 00:26 < Mercster> well they may pay lip service to it 00:26 < Mercster> but any christian who knows their stuff, knows it is true 00:27 < Mercster> you can discern things, i.e. who to stay around, who to avoid, or what advice to give someone 00:27 < Mercster> but no man or woman is judge of another 00:28 < Mercster> no man or woman knows the content of the heart of another 00:28 < Mercster> that's God's job, and noone elses 00:30 < daswork> One of the wisdoms of Europe. 00:30 < daswork> Only God knows what God thinks. 00:32 < Mercster> nah thats not true. we know what God thinks because He's told us. that doesnt give us the right to *judge* someone else 00:32 < daswork> Ce 00:32 < Mercster> we can see someone lie, cheat, steal...we know God isnt happy with it 00:32 < daswork> Check the Old Testament. 00:32 < daswork> God lets us kill our neighbors. 00:32 < Mercster> but does that give us the right to judge that person? 00:32 < Mercster> absolutely not 00:32 < daswork> And have sexxors with their daughtesr. 00:32 < daswork> God's a dirty old man. 00:33 < Mercster> that person may have repented in their heart of those sins 00:33 < daswork> What sins? 00:33 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:33 < Mercster> lying, cheating, stealing 00:33 < daswork> Look at the OT. You're supposed to kill every adult male of your vanguished enemies. 00:33 < daswork> Then enslave the ret. 00:33 < Mercster> uh, no 00:33 < daswork> Er, rest. 00:33 < Mercster> dude, you're ignorant 00:34 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o [1NF0]] by ChanServ 00:34 < daswork> Dueteronomy. 00:34 < Mercster> the old testament is largely history, especially the moment in time you're talking about, which was the conquest of Canaan 00:34 < daswork> Start reading at 21:10. 00:34 < Mercster> yeah, Deuteronomy 00:34 <@Corydon76-dig> The entire book is history 00:34 < daswork> http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+21%3A10-14&version=NIV 00:35 < daswork> That's why I say "OT", as in "Old Testament". 00:35 < daswork> Y'know, the book Xians say is outdated unless they are queer bashing. 00:35 < Mercster> again, God was speaking to a specific people at a specific time 00:35 < Mercster> you havent read the bible 00:35 <@Corydon76-dig> daswork: the entire Bible is outdated 00:35 < daswork> I has. 00:35 < daswork> Corydon76-dig: Yes. 00:35 < Mercster> therefore you dont understand that Deuteronomy is largely a history of a certain people 00:36 < daswork> Mercster: God's *chosen* people, if you belive the trailers. 00:36 < Mercster> absolutely, as in the israelites 00:36 < Mercster> God has not told the israelites to go to war against anyone else for a long time 00:36 < daswork> Meh. 00:37 < Mercster> yes He told the israelites to take no prisoners, to kill men women and children 00:37 < Mercster> He never told you or me to do that 00:37 < Mercster> "meh" is right, you dont know 00:37 < daswork> Hey, be careful. 00:37 < daswork> I'm UU, leaning towards Yeshua knew his shit. 00:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Who says he never told me to kill Dick Cheney? 00:37 < Mercster> you dont even know the fucking difference between a gram and an ounce 00:37 < daswork> But the OT is pretty fucked up. 00:37 < Mercster> and you're trying to tell me what the bible says 00:37 < daswork> And Xians don't know it. 00:37 < Mercster> well 00:37 < Mercster> yes, Christians do know it 00:37 < Mercster> many Christians anyway 00:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Most of them don't 00:38 < Mercster> it doesnt apply to me 00:38 < daswork> How many Xians know that, according to the OT, we're all Children of Cain. 00:38 < Mercster> it doesnt apply to anyone but those israelites that He was telling to go to war against the canaanites 00:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Most of them think "cleanliness is next to godliness" is in the bible 00:38 < Mercster> daswork: all children of Cain? good lord, you're confused 00:38 < daswork> Mercster: Check the bible. 00:38 < Mercster> haha 00:39 < Mercster> dude, the children of Cain are called "kenites" in the bible 00:39 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:39 < Mercster> do a word search 00:39 < Mercster> check a strong's concordance 00:39 < daswork> Mercster: Who's the father of Enoch. 00:39 < daswork> Cain. 00:40 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o [1NF0]] by ChanServ 00:40 < Mercster> 18: When Jared had lived a hundred and sixty-two years he became the father of Enoch 00:40 < Mercster> do you mean Jared? 00:40 < Mercster> seriously, shut the fuck up, stupid 00:40 < daswork> Mercster: Genesis 4:17. 00:40 < Mercster> reading a few anti-God websites about how shitty Christinity is doesnt put you in a position to tell anyone anything 00:41 < daswork> 17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. 00:41 < Mercster> daswork: there were two enochs, and besides that, how does that make Cain the father of all men? 00:42 < daswork> Mercster: Enoch was the ancestor of Methusalah, right? 00:42 < daswork> Who was the ancestor of Noah. 00:42 < Mercster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_(ancestor_of_Noah) 00:42 < Mercster> Additionally, Enoch is described as the father of Methuselah and great-grandfather of Noah (Genesis 5:22-29). Enoch is the son of Jared. 00:43 < daswork> Mercster: The OT suffers from showing multiple sources. 00:44 < Mercster> its not multiple sources, it's multiple bloodlines 00:44 < daswork> Multiple sources. 00:45 < daswork> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis 00:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, there's two sources intertwined in the OT 00:45 < Mercster> you cant confuse the son of Cain, Enoch, and the son of Jared, Enoch 00:45 <@Corydon76-dig> You can see this in that there are two creation stories in Genesis... 00:45 < daswork> Corydon76-dig: Yeppers. 00:46 < Mercster> no, it's a popular theory of pointy heads that there are multiple sources in the bible 00:46 < Mercster> it stems from them not being able to understand what they read 00:46 < Mercster> like daswork here 00:46 <@Corydon76-dig> and the two are mutually exclusive. One creates land out of water; the other creates rivers from a vast wasteland 00:46 < Mercster> it makes you feel comfortable in your inability to dive deep enough into the text to understand it, when you chalk it up to "multiple sources" 00:47 < daswork> Perhas I'm wrong, but I've read a lot of evidence in support of this, such as what Corydon is saying about dual genesis accounts. 00:47 < Mercster> you dont give enough of a fuck to look into the masoretic text, or even the english translations, to understand what the bible is saying 00:47 < Mercster> plus you have your own political reasons for discrediting it 00:47 < Mercster> so you rely on egghead theories 00:47 < daswork> What's my political reasons? 00:47 < Mercster> there is once source of the OT, God 00:48 < daswork> I have no problem belieing a bunch of nomads have a consistent theogology. 00:48 < daswork> ER, theology. 00:48 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: there arent two creation stories in Genesis...there is a 6th day of creation man, and there is an 8th day creation man 00:48 < Mercster> it's evident 00:49 < Mercster> read it again instead of relying on websites 00:51 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: I studied it in college 00:52 < Mercster> college fed you bullshit 00:52 <@Corydon76-dig> No, there are two places that humans are created; one in Gen 1; the second time in Gen 2. 00:53 < Mercster> thats true, humans were created in genesis 1 and in genesis 2 00:53 < Mercster> what makes you think its talking about the same event? 00:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Genesis 1 starts with an ocean, and God creates land. Genesis 2 starts with land and water rises up from the land 00:53 < Mercster> there were people created in genesis 1, and in genesis 2 00:54 < Mercster> you're right again, but why you insist on believing these are descriptions of the same event is beyond me 00:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Because if you go back to the original texts, there are two distinctive writing styles 00:54 < Mercster> obviously it is not the same event 00:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Those of us who are not scholars of ancient Hebrew will have difficulty distinguishing it 00:55 < Mercster> yeah well, textual criticism is bullshit; you can believe what you want, but there is no evidence besides the theories of atheist numbskulls than genesis 1 and genesis 2 are describing the same event :) 00:55 <@Corydon76-dig> How about theories of Christian theologians? 00:56 < Mercster> i happen to believe they're describing two events. in genesis 1 man was created, on the 6th day. in genesis 2, on the 8th day (after the 7th day of rest), a special man and woman were created seperately. the bible says clearly that this 8th day man and woman were created to till the ground 00:56 < Mercster> try reading it, instead of believing what your professors tell you 00:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, there's belief, and then there are people who study the original text 00:56 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o [1NF0]] by ChanServ 00:56 < Mercster> mmkay well, you arent one of them 00:56 <@Corydon76-dig> I have read it, cover to cover, multiple translations 00:57 < Mercster> you believe what you're told 00:57 <@Corydon76-dig> and I find their theories to be more credible 00:57 < Mercster> translations dont matter much, get yourself a strong's concordance, that translates each word of the english back into the words in the masoretic text tha5t it was translated from 00:57 < Mercster> then maybe you'll have a clue 00:57 < Mercster> instead of parroting what you've been told 00:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Insulting me is unlikely to convince me that your viewpoint is more correct 00:58 < Mercster> what college told you dont matter much, higher education is a wasp's nest of atheistic eggheads 00:58 < Mercster> im not insulting you 00:59 < Mercster> you're parroting what you've been told 00:59 < Mercster> that's obvious 00:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Higher education is also what convinces me that it's worth my time to get vaccinated 00:59 < Mercster> <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: I studied it in college 00:59 < Mercster> lol 01:00 <@Corydon76-dig> While you're entitled to your opinion, telling me that my professors were atheists, because you disagree with them, is similarly a poor argument. 01:01 <@Corydon76-dig> I know for a fact that my most convincing professors were in fact Christian theologians 01:01 < Mercster> well, listen man, you believe what you want. im not out to convert anybody. but it's fairly pedestrian to parrot the belief that genesis 1 and 2 describe the same events, when there is no reason to do so other than a fundamental misuynderstanding of the masoretic text and a wish to explain away things that arent politically correct for a "college" professor to teach 01:02 <@Corydon76-dig> How about Reverend Dr. Knight? 01:03 < Mercster> because teaching that genesis 1 and genesis 2 describe *seperate* creations, understandably presupposes *different* peoples. 01:03 < Mercster> thats not politically correct 01:03 <@Corydon76-dig> For that matter, I'm an ordained minister, as well, though my education is far less than that of the Reverend Doctor. 01:03 < Mercster> it's better to try and discount what the text says and put forward a theory that they are two tellings of the same event 01:04 < Mercster> oh for fucks sake dude 01:04 < Mercster> universal life church? 01:04 < Mercster> please say something interesting 01:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Unless and until I take up the study of ancient Hebrew, I will trust in those who have made it their life's work 01:04 < Mercster> remember, i was on the internet before you were :) 01:05 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:05 <@Corydon76-dig> I doubt that, actually 01:05 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: well i havent made it my life's work, but ive certainly worked on it more than you have 01:05 < Mercster> so hey, you believe what you want 01:05 < Mercster> i know you will :) 01:06 <@Corydon76-dig> You have a working knowledge of ancient Hebrew? 01:06 <@Corydon76-dig> It's silly to debate unless you're reading the original, untranslated text. 01:06 < Mercster> i dont need a working knowledge of biblical hebrew to know more than you do 01:07 < Mercster> do you know what the masoretic text is? 01:07 < Mercster> the massorah 01:07 < Mercster> have you ever heard of a strong's concordance 01:07 <@Corydon76-dig> It's a translation by people with a particular interest 01:07 < Mercster> ... 01:07 < Mercster> mkay 01:07 < Mercster> let's leave it at that 01:07 <@Corydon76-dig> and yes, I'm familiar with a concordance 01:07 < Mercster> you're willfullly ignorant because some atheist in college told you something 01:07 < Mercster> n/p 01:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Again, he was far from atheist 01:08 < Mercster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoretic_Text 01:09 < Mercster> nothing to do with "a translation by people with a particular interest" 01:09 < Mercster> im not calling you ignorant as an insult, but you are in the truest sense, ignorant 01:09 < Mercster> read up 01:09 <@Corydon76-dig> So you read Hebrew? 01:10 <@Corydon76-dig> or Aramaic? 01:10 <@Corydon76-dig> If you don't, then having the text is next to useless 01:11 <@Corydon76-dig> unless, of course, you have an English translation. 01:13 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o [1NF0]] by ChanServ 01:13 < Mercster> a hebrew concordance enables the english speaker to trace back any english word in a translation back to the masoretic text; for instance the word 'unicorn' appears several time in the KJV, but when brought back to the massorah with a concordance, offers the original word in the hebrew/chaldee along with its common, modern translation 01:14 <@Corydon76-dig> WHOSE modern translation? 01:14 < Mercster> this is what ive said a couple times, and i dont know how many times im going to have to say it before you give up in defending your beloved college professor as the end-all be-all authority on what the bible is telling you 01:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Your attempts at convincing anyone leave a bit to be desired 01:15 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: ancient hebrew is a fixed language, the words mean one thing and one thing only, there is no "living" component to the language, and the conjugation of the verbs and grammatical structure are fixed 01:15 <@Corydon76-dig> It's similar to the effect of hitting someone over the head with a closed book, expecting them to be able to read it. 01:15 < Mercster> ok well 01:15 < Mercster> you dont even know what the fuck a strong's concordance is 01:16 < Mercster> you didnt know what the massorah was 01:16 < Mercster> and all you cal tell me is what you learned in college 01:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, but the problem is that we can only guess at the meanings of certain words in ancient Hebrew 01:16 < Mercster> so as far as this conversation goes, yer a fuckin loser :) 01:16 < Mercster> seriously 01:16 < Mercster> read up 01:16 < Mercster> then come back to me 01:16 -!- Falun [~richard@75-37-195-222.lightspeed.lsatca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:16 < Mercster> it may matter 01:16 <@Corydon76-dig> No, it makes no difference to me, anymore. 01:17 < Mercster> i doubt it ever did 01:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Then you are also willfully ignorant 01:17 < Mercster> you obviously havent done your homework 01:17 < Mercster> it cant have mattered *too* much 01:17 < Mercster> besides, why would it matter to you, it's a book that repudiates several aspects of your lifestyle 01:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Again, this is not a productive method of arguing a point 01:18 < Mercster> i wouldnt expect you to care 01:18 < Mercster> but your assertion than you had an interest is the only thing that concerned me :) 01:18 < Mercster> let's not be dishonest 01:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, then you seriously underestimate my upbringing 01:18 < Mercster> you dont care what the bible says 01:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Correct; I do not care anymore. 01:18 < Mercster> so why would you try to concvince anyone you had an idea 01:19 < Mercster> seems contradictory 01:19 <@Corydon76-dig> As far as I'm concerned, it is an outdated book. I did not, however, always believe that. 01:19 < Mercster> you've already made your mind up 01:19 < Mercster> right 01:19 <@kive> 00:46 < daswork> Also, amazingly enough, airing my entire sex life on #se2600 is not my thing. 01:19 <@Corydon76-dig> My beliefs have evolved. Have yours? 01:19 <@kive> You vastly overestimate our attention spans, lol 01:20 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: i was an occulstist in my youth, and a buddhist for 12 years in my 20s 01:20 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: yes, they have :) 01:20 <@Corydon76-dig> You spent 12 years in your 20s? 01:20 < Mercster> you genius you 01:20 < Mercster> i was a buddhist since 16-28 01:20 < Mercster> s/since/during 01:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Shall we add 'math' to the items you fail at? 01:21 < Mercster> 16-28 is 12 years 01:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually, it's 13 01:21 < Mercster> so your petty preconcieved notion about everyone being a poor ignorant christian untuil they get "enlightened" somewhere down the road is completely off 01:22 < Mercster> and you're an asshole for trying to apply it to me 01:22 < Mercster> thanks anyway 01:22 < Mercster> i was where you are, kid :) 01:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Clearly, you were not 01:22 < Mercster> maybe you'll evolve to christianity someday 01:22 < Mercster> where i am 01:22 < Mercster> :) 01:22 < Mercster> thats how you try to treat me, so thats how ill treat you 01:22 < Mercster> maybe someday youll progress beyond what your college professor told you 01:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah, yes, the Golden Rule. You emulate it so well. 01:23 < Mercster> if i were a dumbfuck, id want to be treated the way im treating you 01:23 < Mercster> with a little bit of sense 01:23 * Mercster pats Corydon76-dig on the back 01:23 * Corydon76-dig pats Mercster on the head 01:24 -!- Falun [~richard@75-37-195-222.lightspeed.lsatca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 01:26 <@kive> yup, religion -- kills #se2600 every time. 01:26 < Mercster> ah well, it's bound to be contentious 01:26 <@Corydon76-dig> kive: are you sure it's not because it's the middle of the night? 01:27 -!- epoxy [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:27 < Mercster> ive moved on to watching alton brown make ice cream 01:27 <@kive> corydon76-dig: guessing so, as quickly as the sex and drugs conversations went 01:27 < Mercster> i still love Corydon76-dig 01:27 < Mercster> kive: oh sex and drugs would go over much better 01:27 < Mercster> do you have any stories? 01:27 <@Corydon76-dig> kive: I bowed out of the drugs conversation; I know very little about those. 01:27 < Mercster> about sex, or drugs, or...hopefully both at the same time 01:28 <@kive> lol, sadly, no new ones, Mercster, no -- and I just spent a week and a half in Vegas. :P 01:28 < Mercster> kive: haha...you failed? ;) 01:28 < Mercster> or, vegas failed you 01:28 < Mercster> one of the two 01:28 < Mercster> ive never been to vegas 01:28 < Mercster> id like to see it someday 01:28 <@kive> corydon76-dig: ditto. I did the usual college experimentation, but I'm hardly an authority. Gotta be able to pass those backgrounds nowadays. 01:29 <@kive> mercster: nah, my gf flew out to do Def Con with me, so it wasn't total fail -- just nothing particularly story-worthy. 01:29 < Mercster> kive: ah well, i hear ya 01:29 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:29 < Mercster> at least a girlfriend is involved 01:30 <@kive> I was also working black hat and working def con, which left me with a hell of a lot less free time than I'm used to while in vegas 01:30 <@Corydon76-dig> kive: my college experimentation was in a slightly different vein 01:30 <@kive> 14-16 hour long work days keep the strippers and blow away. 01:30 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: s/drugs/cocks ? (im not picking on ya, just foolin with you) 01:30 < Mercster> kive: heh 01:31 <@kive> no pun intended re: vein in that case, either, right? 01:31 <@kive> ;) 01:31 < Mercster> i saw some coverage on defcon/blackhat on the PBS newshour tonight, apparently the previous CIA director wasw there 01:31 < Mercster> hayden? 01:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Mercster: yep, that was indeed my area of experimentation 01:31 < Mercster> i forget his name 01:31 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: ;) 01:31 <@kive> Yeah, he did a keynote for BH 01:31 < Mercster> cool 01:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Anyway, going to bed 01:32 < Mercster> yeah they were talking about the info wars 01:32 < Mercster> Corydon76-dig: g'night 01:32 <@kive> ditto -- gotta work in the am. night guys. 01:32 < Mercster> oh bother 01:32 < Mercster> im all alone 01:32 < Mercster> i should be playing with my new xbox360 01:33 <@kive> oh, fie is probably still awake, I'm guessing ;) 01:33 * Mercster looks at fie 01:33 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o [1NF0]] by ChanServ 01:34 <@kive> [1NF0]: what, you gonna keep reconnecting until someone gives you a hug? :) 01:35 < Mercster> yesterday i bought a brand new xbox360 "slim" and havent done a damn thing with it yet 01:35 <@kive> [1NF0]: 404 2600 will be dead next month, of course, due to Dragon*Con, but I'll try to get out there with pi314 and some toys for the October meeting. See if we can start getting it a little more active again. 01:35 <@kive> It really just takes a few people with clue to make a small critical mass for 404. 01:35 < Mercster> i think i like buying videogames more than i do actually playing them 01:35 <@kive> That's always worked for me over the last couple of decades, heh 01:35 <@kive> Mercster: hah, I do the same -- best intentions and limited free time. 01:36 < Mercster> yeah, right 01:36 <@kive> And I have a pair of 360's -- one for each plasma 01:36 < Mercster> i had a 1st gen 360 but it was stolen 01:36 <@kive> That is fun for 4/8-man teams, tho 01:36 < Mercster> the new one with the builtin wifi is nice hardware 01:36 <@kive> Yeah, but it's 1st gen slim... I don't trust 1st-gen xboxes, heh 01:37 < Mercster> yeah i guess 01:37 <@kive> I have one that's two years old, that I get warrantied about once a year -- and then one newer one I bought when I didn't realize the first one was under warranty for rrod still 01:37 < Mercster> as bad as the 1st xboxen 360 were with the red rings of death, i cant imagine them fucking it up as badly 01:37 < Mercster> of course, people might habe thought the same about the iphone 4g 01:38 < Mercster> and look where that went 01:38 <@kive> and to M$'s benefit, they were really good about warranty lengthening and fast replacements/repairs, once they figured out what was going on 01:38 < Mercster> true 01:38 <@kive> but creating a 'slim' when even the most current non-slims still have heating issues.. 01:38 <@kive> I'll wait a year or two. ;) 01:38 < Mercster> well 01:38 < Mercster> i havent fucked with it enough to tell you from experience about how it acts 01:38 < Mercster> but 01:39 < Mercster> i can say, there's a shitload of cooling vents that werent there before 01:39 < Mercster> that's gotta help 01:41 < Mercster> i got red dead redemption, im pretty sure thats gonna be friggin awesome 01:44 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:58 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o [1NF0]] by ChanServ 03:53 < fie> kive, 03:53 < fie> hey man, long time no see. 03:55 < Mercster> im drunk and close to sleep, but after reading reviews i have an urge to play one of my 360 games 03:55 < Mercster> red dead revolver, fable2 or UFC undisputed 2010 03:55 * Mercster fidgets 03:57 < Mercster> ia also have ES:Oblivion and Guitar hero 2, but ive played those before 03:57 < Mercster> hoenstly red dead revolver looks like the winner of the pack 03:57 < fie> I'd dig GH right about now 03:58 < fie> enjoy your revolving 03:58 < Mercster> yeah GH is fun 03:58 < Mercster> not in the mood for it tho 04:01 < Mercster> red dead revolver sounds awesome 04:01 < Mercster> as does fable2 04:01 < Mercster> reviews are mixed for UFC 2010, but im pretty sure they're crying about sucking 04:03 < Mercster> im wondering how you install a game onto the harddrive on the 360 04:03 < Mercster> apparently its possible but i dunno how to do it 04:03 < Mercster> maybe it'd be a menu option 04:04 -!- mtown_nerd [~jhester@ghruaim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:04 -!- unixfg [~ryan@ghruaim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:21 <@Shadow404> WTF 06:22 <@Shadow404> just found out the elemantary school bus stop is my mailbox 06:22 <@Shadow404> I dont even have a fucking kid and the dogs are waking me up every morning now about them 06:35 <@Evilpig> haha 06:35 <@Evilpig> I think you know what you need to do 09:26 < nefD> landmines? 09:27 <@opticron> admiral jumpsuit landmine 09:36 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@dialin.inttek.net] has joined #se2600 09:52 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.nandomedia.com] has joined #se2600 09:56 -!- nefD [~nefD@adsl-068-016-097-246.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:02 -!- nefD [~nefD@adsl-068-016-097-246.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 10:07 -!- w_re [ware@phneak.net] has joined #se2600 10:08 -!- ware [ware@phneak.net] has quit [Quit: pwnd] 10:11 -!- w_re is now known as ware 10:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by ChanServ 10:33 -!- MaxieZ [~maxiez@maxiez.com] has quit [Quit: [BX] The Borg use BitchX. 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Shouldn't you?] 10:53 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@99-8-218-190.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 10:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 11:56 <@ware> boring irc is, boring. 11:58 -!- Corydon76-dig changed the topic of #se2600 to: This space unintentionally left completely nonblank. | Hobbits had a sophisticated computer network; it was a Tolkien Ring. 12:54 <@Dagmar> MOTHERFUCKING HOT 12:54 <@Dagmar> From dry to soaked in goddamn seven minutes 12:54 <@Dagmar> I walked out there with two ziplock bags containing the screws that hold two faring pieces on them, set them down on the seat, popped the trunk of the car and connected the batteries, started taking screws out of the bag _and they were already fucking hot enough to sting my hands_ 13:25 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@99-8-218-190.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 14:54 -!- knot_ [yiffstar66@ns1.reasonless.net] has joined #se2600 14:54 -!- knot_ [yiffstar66@ns1.reasonless.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:50 <@kive> my gods, I get scrolled like ten times last night because of sex, drugs, and religion. 15:50 <@kive> And then leave ALL day -- and not even a single scrollback 15:50 <@kive> and hi fie, lol 15:55 <@coil> http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2010/07/22 he has my vote 16:33 <@Dagmar> Way way better http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2010/07/13 16:33 <@Dagmar> So wrong, and yet so funny 16:36 <@ware> dank dank 16:37 <@Dagmar> Oh shit 16:37 <@Dagmar> So *this* is what has made kids start yammering about "double rainbow" hahah 16:37 <@Dagmar> http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2010/07/06 16:37 <@Dagmar> Remember kids: Don't do drugs IN FRONT OF VIDEO CAMERAS 16:38 <@Dagmar> That man should have not had mushrooms from the forest with his lunch 16:38 <@Dagmar> Straight fucking up. 16:42 <@ware> STRAIGHT SMOKING OUT A GRANNY SMITH 16:42 <@ware> DOPE CHOICES 16:42 <@ware> PUN INTENDED 16:45 <@Dagmar> That guy had more than weed. That there is some serious hallucinogen-induced behaviour 16:50 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Dan9186[MM] 17:00 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~jkemp@cnet520-hosoc.nandomedia.com] has quit [Quit: Comments like that are why you have no friends] 17:06 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Dan9186[MM] 17:07 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Dan9186[MM] 17:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Dan9186[MM] 17:17 <@polerin> anyone good with win7, backup and disk management in particular? 17:19 <@polerin> got a usb drive that's showing in explorer, can navigate around and there's stuff there, but it won't reliably show up as a drive for backup. in disk management it shows up as unallocated 17:19 <@Dagmar> Hardware is failing 17:19 <@polerin> fairly new 17:20 <@polerin> possible still, but wouldn.t be my first guess 17:32 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@adsl-99-20-147-171.dsl.aus2tx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 17:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 18:05 < daswork> polerin You want photos, or other things? 18:05 < daswork> recoverjpeg is good at getting photos. 18:05 < daswork> Leenucks only, I think. 18:10 <@Dagmar> @#$@$@@ 18:10 <@Dagmar> FUCK mother nature 18:10 <@Dagmar> This is what I get for trying to clean the leaves off the goddamn balcony 18:11 <@Dagmar> A wasp or hornet or something just got me on the goddamn ring finger _and the upper lip_ 18:11 <@Dagmar> I'm going to fucking poison eveyrthing 18:11 <@Dagmar> I WILL SHOW NATURE WHO IS FUCKING IN CHARGE HERE 18:12 <@coil> lol 18:12 <@coil> just knock down the nest at night 18:12 <@Dagmar> Fuck that 18:12 <@coil> no need for poison 18:12 <@Dagmar> I'll soak it in poison 18:12 <@coil> lol they're just bugs 18:12 <@Dagmar> I want hte motherfuckers to die, and any that come after them to die 18:13 <@Dagmar> Here, let me kick you in the face and see if you say "they're just bugs" 18:13 <@Dagmar> I have been stung by bees before. That isn't shit 18:13 <@Dagmar> Seriously, this feels like I intercepted a half a brick 18:14 <@coil> sorry 18:15 <@Dagmar> I'm going to fucking SOAK the balcony in insecticide 18:16 <@Dagmar> ...and then maybe go spray some in the bushes just to be thorough 18:16 <@coil> so your not for sure it was a wasp? 18:18 <@Dagmar> I didn't see it 18:18 <@Dagmar> It's nest is still out there 18:23 <@coil> raid them bitches 18:26 <@Dagmar> maybe it's for the best that I dont' own a flamethrower 18:26 <@Dagmar> defintely fucking wasps 18:26 <@Dagmar> ABout to be EX-wasps 18:32 <@Dagmar> Next step will be to fill the bird feeder 18:35 <@Dagmar> The spiders I've left alone are now fired. 18:35 <@Dagmar> They weren't doing a good enough job obviously. NOw it's time to tamper with the avian part of the food chain 18:36 <@Dagmar> Goddamn good thing I didn't have any rings on or they'd not be coming off now 18:36 <@Dagmar> @#$@ wasps 18:42 <@Dagmar> I feel a bit better now 18:42 <@Dagmar> My balcony looks like it was just rained on 18:43 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@adsl-99-20-147-171.dsl.aus2tx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 18:43 <@Dagmar> I can see two wasps squirming to death 18:43 <@Dagmar> This pleases me 19:04 < fie> kive, howdy 19:13 < Mercster> Dagmar: why are you taking your psychosomatic physical ailments out on innocent wasps 19:19 -!- sasquatc4 [sasquatc4@c-76-25-180-64.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:32 -!- sasquatc4 [sasquatc4@c-76-25-180-64.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 19:35 <@kive> 18:18 <@polerin> got a usb drive that's showing in explorer, can navigate around and there's stuff there, but it won't reliably show up as a drive for backup. in disk management it shows up as unallocated 19:35 <@kive> 18:18 <@Dagmar> Hardware is failing 19:35 <@kive> not sure I buy hardware -- it consistently shows up in explorer and you can see files? 19:36 <@kive> you're not talking about windows --> my computer --> manage --> disk management then, or you're looking at a different disk or partition...? 19:36 <@kive> windows will not read files from something it can't determine a format on, which is when it shows unallocated, iirc 19:37 <@kive> polerin: ^^ 19:37 <@Dagmar> "but it won't reliably show up as a drive for backup." 19:37 <@Dagmar> Based on that one, I'd say the USB module controlling the disk is failing 19:37 <@Dagmar> Key word being "reliably" 19:41 <@kive> just seems wierd that explorer can read it, files can be seen, and she doesn't indicate any disk r/w errors coming, which windows will happily provide 19:42 <@kive> actually, maybe windows won't -- I usually get those errors from particular pieces of software when I'm swapping drives around 19:42 <@kive> not sure if there's some log that can be looked at or something 19:43 <@Dagmar> This is not what the docs say 19:43 <@Dagmar> wrong chan 19:56 <@Dagmar> This is fun 19:56 <@Dagmar> http://www.scribd.com/doc/35688046/Christopher-Moot-Poole-Testimony-in-Palin-Email-Trial 19:56 <@Dagmar> Moot explaining 4chan to a judge 19:56 <@Dagmar> hahahah 19:56 <@Dagmar> The irony! 20:11 <@digitalirony> irony what 20:11 <@fall0ut> that was wins 20:21 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:23 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@the.narro.ws] has joined #se2600 20:23 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@the.narro.ws] has quit [Changing host] 20:23 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has joined #se2600 20:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 20:44 -!- epoxy_ [~ls3@71-15-26-216.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 21:16 -!- polerin [~erin@c-98-193-146-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16 -!- Lissa [~lissa@c-98-193-146-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:18 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:19 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@the.narro.ws] has joined #se2600 21:19 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@the.narro.ws] has quit [Changing host] 21:19 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has joined #se2600 21:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 21:56 <@sdodson> brimstone: sup amigo? 21:57 <@brimstone> ¿COMO ESTAS? 21:59 <@sdodson> brimstone: good, how goes life and what not? 21:59 <@sdodson> brimstone: does #ware still exist? 21:59 <@brimstone> ircs://phneak.net/phneak 22:05 <@brimstone> life's going well 22:05 <@brimstone> trying to find a podcast app for android that's free and doesn't suck 22:06 <@sdodson> That's one of the things I like about the Pre. There's basically one app for everything and it's usually awesome. 22:06 <@fall0ut> brimstone: pay for doggcatcher 22:06 <@fall0ut> doggcatcher > * 22:07 <@fall0ut> otherwise Google Listen 22:07 <@fall0ut> is about as good as it gets. 22:07 <@brimstone> google listen doesn't do videos 22:07 <@fall0ut> doggcatcher it is then. 22:07 <@fall0ut> it's like $3-$4 22:07 <@fall0ut> worth every penny 22:12 <@sdodson> drpodder does all that and is free! 22:12 <@sdodson> though some church has taken it and made a pay version that only shows their church podcast or something 22:13 <@fall0ut> haha 22:13 <@fall0ut> doggcatcher is awesome 22:13 <@fall0ut> worth the few $$ 22:14 <@sasquatc4> isnt a podcast just a audio or video file? 22:14 <@brimstone> yup 22:14 <@sasquatc4> so why do you need a special app, just use a media player 22:14 <@fall0ut> I listen to doggcatcher every morning 22:15 <@sdodson> sasquatc4: rss feed with links to audio or video files 22:15 <@fall0ut> it has settings for check x hrs 22:15 <@fall0ut> if on wifi 22:15 <@fall0ut> etc 22:15 <@sdodson> drpodder has all those features 22:15 <@brimstone> sasquatc4: i'm too lazy to download the files myself 22:15 <@sdodson> did i mention it's free, and open source? 22:15 <@sasquatc4> ahh, obviously i never got into the whole podcast thing 22:23 <@sdodson> there are some really good podcasts 22:23 <@sdodson> This American Life has a podcast version. 22:30 * Mercster enjoys netflix streaming with the xbox360 22:32 <@sdodson> i don't have a console, xbox360 or ps3? 22:46 < Mercster> what? 22:47 < Mercster> didnt i just say xbox360? 22:48 < Mercster> i got one of the new "slim" ones 22:48 < Mercster> 250GB, builtin wifi 22:48 < Mercster> sexy shiny black plastic 22:48 < Mercster> its the main toy i promised myself once my benefits started coming through 22:48 < Mercster> im currently watching 'Helvetica', cool docu 22:49 < Mercster> saw it once before 22:49 < Mercster> about the prevelence of the helvetica typeface in society 22:49 < Mercster> its quite interesting 22:50 < Mercster> im very impressed with the netflix streaming 22:50 < Mercster> you browse around on your computer and add things to your queue, they show up in the xbox360 netflix menu 22:51 <@sdodson> Mercster: ya, those look nice. 22:51 < Mercster> pretty slick so far 22:52 <@sdodson> i'll add helvetica to my queue 22:52 < Mercster> cool 22:52 < Mercster> its quite amazing, how almost every font we see in advertising/etc is a variation on helvetica 22:53 < Mercster> well maybe not amazing 22:53 < Mercster> interesting, anyway 22:53 <@sdodson> does someone have a patent on helvetica? 22:53 < Mercster> i dont think so 22:53 <@sdodson> patent or trademark? I forget which cover fonts 22:53 <@sdodson> they're basically math 22:53 < Mercster> yeah 22:53 < Mercster> geometry 22:53 <@sdodson> a complext set of bezier curves, right? 22:53 < Mercster> something like that 22:54 <@sdodson> TIME FOR BED! 22:54 < Mercster> g'night 22:54 <@sdodson> lots of lightning to watch 22:55 <@sasquatc4> has anyone made an xbmc-esque program for the 360? 22:56 < Mercster> that much i dont know; i dont think so 22:56 <@sasquatc4> always lookin to the future for when the existing original xbox dies, that will be a sad day 22:56 < Mercster> im probably going to get comcast dvr 22:56 <@sasquatc4> greatest media center ever 22:56 <@sasquatc4> ahhh, ewww 22:56 < Mercster> sasquatc4: well original xbox (which i also owned) no longer can access xbox live, but they're still perfectly suited for xbmc 22:57 < Mercster> i know someone who has like, 5 of them, scattered around his house 22:57 < Mercster> they'll never stop being useful as far as that goes 22:57 <@sasquatc4> yea, thats all i ever really used mine for, that and emulators 22:57 <@sasquatc4> and thats all it still gets used for 22:57 < Mercster> it *would* be cool if they did DVR out of the box, too 22:57 < Mercster> oh i had an original xbox when it was still just a gaming platform 22:58 < Mercster> never got around to xbmc, etc 22:58 < Mercster> but im telling you 22:58 < Mercster> for someone without a dvr 22:58 < Mercster> this netflix streaming is so damn cool 22:59 < Mercster> $9/mo for all the streaming you want 22:59 < Mercster> ive been using it for 4 hours or so and already have 10 things in my queue to watch 22:59 < Mercster> i also wanna watch some tv shows i missed out on 22:59 < Mercster> someone said 'dexter' is cool 22:59 < Mercster> so ive got that queued 22:59 <@sasquatc4> yea it is, been watchin that one from the start 23:00 < Mercster> 7i was a big fan of OZ 23:00 < Mercster> i watched that religiously when it was out 23:00 < Mercster> dont think its on netflix streaming tho 23:01 < Mercster> which is a damn shame 23:01 < Mercster> gay prison sex and shankings, who can argue with that 23:44 < juice> watch out for Schillinger might get you --- Log closed Thu Aug 12 00:00:57 2010