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00:52 <@kive> corydon76-dig: cool, will write up a short abstract for you tomorrow and push it your way.
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12:41 < rattle> For the WIN!
12:41 < rattle> http://whatthefuckismyinformationsecuritystrategy.com/
12:45 <@fall0ut> haha
13:10 <@dagmar> hahah
13:14 <@dagmar> Rattle: This, however, is downright EPIC http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2010/07/wikileaks-to-leak-5000-open-source-java.html
13:14 <@dagmar> I think it's going to be appearing on Memestrems later
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14:34 <@polerin> that sounds like bullshit
14:34 <@polerin> private methods/properties are good design in any system where people are going to be adding shit on randomly
14:37 <@polerin> the objections about "opensource doesn't mean open" are silly, but there are good design reasons to not have everything all out in the open :P
14:39 <@polerin> also, I just read down, sorry, distracted
14:39 <@polerin> lol
14:39 <@polerin> didn't finish the whole thing
14:44 <@Dagmar> *Hemhem*
14:47  * polerin steps off of soapbox for a minute
14:47 <@polerin> :P
14:51 <@Dagmar> Geez
14:51 <@Dagmar> Just saw some woman on CNN who has no idea how her bluetooth earpiece works
14:51 <@Dagmar> Freakin pointed straight at the ground
14:52 <@polerin> she's trying to pick up ley lines.
14:55 <@Corydon76-dig> her earpiece has an external antenna?
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15:02 < rattle> Tim Geithner has a bigger pull than I thought..  Got about 50Mbit of streams already..
15:02 < rattle> http://www.americanprogress.org/events/2010/07/SecretaryGeithner.html/streaming.html
15:04 <@fall0ut> heh
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15:08 < rattle> More like 70Mbit now..
15:09 <@fall0ut> I need some custoemrs like you
15:11 <@ware> win or no win? http://phneak.net/ware/log.php
15:14 < m0j0-j0j0> ware: 2ldnr
15:15 <@Dagmar> OMG MCAFEE SEZ U R SATAN
15:15  * m0j0-j0j0 looks around
15:16 <@Dagmar> Talkin' about Ware's URL
15:16 <@Dagmar> This is the first time I've ever see nit even care about a site
15:18 <@ware> haha
15:18 <@ware> nice
15:19 <@ware> i was trying to infect you all with my leet 0day, but apparently mcafee knows about it
15:19 <@ware> m0j0-j0j0: whats 2ldnr?
15:19 < m0j0-j0j0> too long did not read
15:21 <@ware> its just a log that i made clickable and colorful
15:21 <@ware> think its perty neat
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21:39 <@sdodson> WARE!
21:40 < Mercster> ware!
21:41 <@polerin> sdodson: we are going to discuss the game at the meeting
21:41 <@polerin> replace water guns with nerf guns
21:42 < Mercster> polerin!
21:43 <@sdodson> polerin: cool cool
21:43 < Mercster> sdodson!
21:44 < Mercster> anyone else here have a netbook?
21:44 < Mercster> mine seems hot
21:44 < Mercster> temp1:       +55.0°C  (crit = +102.0°C)
21:46 <@sdodson> tempYourMom: +69.0°C
21:46 < Mercster> how dare you
21:48 < Mercster> temp1:       +47.0°C  (crit = +102.0°C)
21:48 < Mercster> huh
21:49 < Mercster> wrong channel
21:49 <@sdodson> I don't know netbooks.
21:49 <@sdodson> They always struck me as impractical so I never paid any attention to them.
21:50 < Mercster> no-moving-parts tiny laptop that can run linux?
21:50 < Mercster> how is that impractical
21:50 <@polerin> Mercster: yeh, got one, but I haven't watched the temp
21:50 <@polerin> actually I'm building an install image for it :P
21:50 < Mercster> polerin: SSD or regular hd?
21:50 <@sdodson> screen too small to be useful, processor too slow to handle my workload, keyboard too small to type on. Nevermind, I had it all wrong, they're great devices.
21:51 <@polerin> Mercster: ssd, I made the mistake of going REALLY small though
21:51 <@polerin> sdodson: it fits in my purse.
21:51 < Mercster> sdodson: well, they irc, web, and do some other stuff fine
21:51 <@sdodson> lol, i thought mercster said it fit in his purse for a second.
21:51 <@sdodson> Mercster: I do all that from my phone.
21:52 < Mercster> sdodson: i dont have a smartphone
21:52 <@sdodson> You have to have a phone. You have to have a real computer. Why introduce another device immediately in between the two?
21:52 < Mercster> polerin: how big SSD? i got 32G
21:52 < Mercster> sdodson: i have a tracphone
21:52 < Mercster> it makes phone calls
21:52 < Mercster> thats it
21:52 <@sdodson> ok
21:52 < Mercster> cuz its a *phone*
21:52 < Mercster> nothing else
21:53 <@sdodson> I bet it has a battery life in excess of about 8 hours too. :(
21:53 < Mercster> yup
21:53  * sdodson wishes his Palm did
21:53 < Mercster> dont get me wrong, id like a smartphone, just cant afford one at the moment
21:53 <@sdodson> *nod*
21:54 < Mercster> once i start getting my disability benefits, i may get one
21:54 < Mercster> it'll be a driod, that much i can tell you
21:54 <@sdodson> you should get a pixi plus
21:55 < Mercster> nah ill get a droid X
21:55 < Mercster> or something
21:55 < Mercster> something sexy
21:55 <@sdodson> droid x is a monster
21:55 < Mercster> polerin: paste your 'sensors' output on it (needs lm_sensors package)
21:55 <@sdodson> it's few millimeteres smaller than your netbook
21:56 < Mercster> sdodson: if yer gonna have a smart phone, might as well do it right
21:56 < Mercster> heh
21:56 < Mercster> yeah its big
21:56 < Mercster> who cares
21:56 < Mercster> i was always a fan of PDAs
21:56 < Mercster> but you cant get PDAs anymore
21:56 < Mercster> phones are the new PDAs
21:56 < Mercster> and if yer gonna get a mini-computer phone, you might as well go all out
21:57 < Mercster> i still have a sony clie
21:57 < Mercster> battery's shot tho
21:58 < Mercster> i have a friend who has a palm pre
21:58 < Mercster> he pretends he likes it but i dont believe him
21:58 <@sdodson> mgalgoci?
21:58 < Mercster> shoulda gotten a droid
21:58 < Mercster> sdodson: no
21:58 < Mercster> but yeah i think he has one too
21:58 <@sdodson> he's got one, ask him what he thinks
21:58 <@sdodson> I HAVE ONE AND ITS AWESOME
21:58 < Mercster> the only thing i ask mgalgoci about is whether he has AIDS when he sucks my dick
21:58 <@sdodson> unless i want to use it for more than a few hours without plugging it in :(
21:59 <@sdodson> Mercster: i thought you two were BFF
21:59 < Mercster> sdodson: eh, its a nice platform but palm is about to tank, and the market just isnt going in pre's directions
21:59 < Mercster> as i said, id get a droid
21:59 < Mercster> where the real action is
21:59 < Mercster> people who got a pre misjudged the market
21:59 < Mercster> and are now stuck with a clunker
22:00 < Mercster> if it makes you happy, bully for you
22:00 < Mercster> but it isnt 2009 anymore
22:00 < Mercster> droid is where its at
22:02 <@sdodson> i'm not stuck with the phone, i can upgrade whenever
22:02 < Mercster> i hear ya
22:03 < Mercster> i aint insulting the pre, i like the company and it seems like a nice platform
22:03 < Mercster> but it just doesnt have enough wind at its back
22:03 < Mercster> there's only so much room in the smartphone market and andoid and iOS have 99% of it
22:03 <@sdodson> HP is going tosave em.
22:03 < Mercster> and i sure as hell aint getting an iphone
22:03 < Mercster> yeah well i hope HP saves them
22:04 < Mercster> that'd be cool
22:04 < Mercster> i still wouldnt buy one :P
22:04 <@sdodson> cause your dumm!
22:04 < Mercster> im dumb in ways you cant even fathom
22:05 < Mercster> not getting a pre is the least of them
22:08 <@sdodson> goodnight
22:11 < Mercster> bye
22:20 <@polerin> Mercster: will do later, it's sorta crazy tonight
22:21 < Mercster> polerin: k
22:21 < Mercster> polerin: how big is your SSD?
22:22 < Mercster> polerin: i just wanna feel better than someone for 30 seconds, humor me
22:23 < Mercster> 8G?
22:27 < Mercster> i coulda gotten 64G
22:27 < Mercster> but honestly
22:27 < Mercster> for a netbook, thats sort of overkill
22:27 < Mercster> hell, 32G is overkill
22:28 < Mercster> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
22:28 < Mercster> /dev/mapper/vg_mini-LogVol00 28G  4.0G   24G  15% /
22:28 < Mercster> 16G would be appropriate
22:28 < Mercster> honestly i dont see anything wrong with 8G
22:29 < Mercster> with a netbook, you're mostly relying on cloudy things anyway
22:54 <@Dagmar> 8/32 on my eee 1000
22:54 <@Dagmar> A reasonable mix
22:55 < Mercster> what?
22:58 < Mercster> what's 8/32?
23:02 < Mercster> id interpret that as 8G ram/32G SSD, but 8G ram sounds a bit high for a netbook
23:03 < Mercster> my netbook has 2G ram, 32G SSD
23:03 < Mercster> both are plenty
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