--- Log opened Sun Jun 13 00:00:04 2010 00:47 -!- epoxy [~epoxt___@68-112-53-229.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 01:04 -!- Peaches1984 [three@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:20 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: looks like that site is actually dead. the workload was distributed using boinc, however, the admins are MIA and nobody can assign work units anymore 01:50 -!- Peaches1984 [three@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:52 -!- Peaches1984 [one@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: I love creating password hints like that that are utterly useless 01:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: btw, did you go by Days Inn? 02:08 < dasunt> Yah, use ophcrack. 02:09 < dasunt> Alternatively, you could probably use the sticky key hack to bypass the password, then check his cookies for web passwords. 02:09 < dasunt> He may use the same password for different things. 02:09 < dasunt> And if that doesn't work, the sticky key hack doesn't destroy the account password. 02:11 < dasunt> Admittedly, at that point, you could pull the drive and check the cookies for web passwords as well. 02:13 -!- epoxy [~epoxt___@68-112-53-229.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:21 <@Evilpig> no. I didn't get back into town til 9 last night. heading over tomorrow 02:21 <@Evilpig> the funeral stuff went on much longer than I had anticipated 02:31 -!- aestetix [aestetix@pinky.ratman.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:32 < dasunt> Funeral? :( 03:30 <@Evilpig> my buddy david had a heart attack on sunday. he was only 37 03:31 <@Evilpig> the worst part of the whole thing was. it turns out I was like his best friend. left me feeling strange 04:21 -!- Peaches1984 [one@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 06:53 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 06:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 07:51 -!- h1t3ch [~h1t3ch@li118-60.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:53 -!- h1t3ch [~h1t3ch@li118-60.members.linode.com] has joined #se2600 09:05 -!- coil_ [stfu@mist3r-2-pt.tunnel.tserv12.mia1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #se2600 09:05 -!- coil_ is now known as Guest34072 09:07 -!- Guest27878 [stfu@mist3r-2-pt.tunnel.tserv12.mia1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:10 <@ware> coil: 09:14 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: going shopping then dog park] 09:40 <@kive> keeping us in suspense, ware? 09:41 <@ware> eh? 09:46 <@kive> 10:10 <@ware> coil: 09:46 <@kive> just been waiting half an hour for what you were gonna say to him. 09:46 <@kive> It's riveting. 09:47 <@kive> If I were in a seat, I might be on the edge on it. But probably not, since I haven't had coffee yet. 09:47 <@kive> But others might be, when they wake up. 10:02 <@ware> ohhh 10:02 <@coil> hi 10:02 <@ware> i gotcha 10:02 <@coil> ware 10:02 <@coil> what is xenserver based on 10:02 <@ware> coil: your znc was 100% cpu nugga 10:02 <@ware> iz dead nao 10:02 <@coil> weird 10:02 <@ware> started up around 3am this morning 10:03 <@coil> sorry 10:04 <@ware> aint no problem, just lettin you know 10:06 <@coil> what distro is xenserver based on 10:07 <@ware> linux 10:13 <@kive> um 10:13 <@coil> ok 10:13 <@coil> how do i add a static ip to a dhcp interface (alias) 10:13 <@coil> i mean at bootup 10:15 <@kive> dom0 can be linux or whatever... and domU, of course... I thought xen itself ran some sort of non-linux microkernel 10:24 * kive boggles 10:24 <@kive> on what, coil? 10:25 <@coil> xenserver 10:26 <@kive> http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/4.0.1/reference/ch03s03.html#networking-physical_network_configuration-nic_config 10:26 <@kive> or therabouts 10:26 <@kive> should be a decent free gui for it, too 10:26 <@kive> xenserver = citrix 10:27 <@coil> the gui stopped working but thanks 10:27 <@kive> sorry, got nothing better for you there. most of my virtual work is using esx and the like. 10:28 <@kive> and if something breaks there, I just call vmware up and say, "fix it be0tches!" 10:29 <@coil> hmm 10:29 <@coil> it says to not edit the file directly 10:30 <@kive> yeah, esx is the same way 10:30 <@kive> editing the config in the gui, or making upgrades, etc... causes the file to be rebuilt 10:30 <@kive> so you gotta figure out how to make the change in the local database/config 10:30 <@kive> so it pushes out again 10:30 <@kive> or, you just make it bloody, and create an /etc/rc.d script to fix it after boot, regardless of how it starts. 10:48 <@sdodson> kive: xen hypervisor has its own kernel and stuff 10:48 <@sdodson> loonix kidz no longer use xen though 11:48 <@kive> yeah, that's what I thought 11:49 <@kive> last I looked at stuff, a lot of work was being put into making kvm more mainline, etc.. 11:49 <@kive> dunno, as I said, I'm an esx/esxi guy 11:54 <@sdodson> yay kvm 11:54 <@sdodson> charcoal or gas? 12:07 <@sdodson> Have OSX tards gotten 10.6 running on non mac hardware? 12:07 < fall0ut> esx is great 12:07 < fall0ut> shitjustworks 12:09 <@tzanger> yeah I discovered that I couldn't get a usb logic analyzer to work in vbox, but vmware's player works without issue 12:10 <@sdodson> are the yellow usb ports usb3 or are they just the super powah ports that i can charge my phone with? 12:10 <@sdodson> I think usb3 is blue or purple or something 12:12 <@sdodson> "The cover works fine. It's a grill cover, so there's not a whole lot of innovation to be had. I however live in an area with wind storms, so I woke up one morning after a storm to find my grill naked, the cover nowhere to be found. I imagine it's somewhere in the Puget sound wedged in an Orca's blowhole. Some simple elastic on the bottom or grommet holes for bungees would have saved a whale." 12:13 < fall0ut> vsphere kinda sucks 12:13 < fall0ut> it's a little heavy 12:17 <@sdodson> compared to virtual center? 12:19 <@tzanger> usb3 is a funny looking connector 12:28 <@sdodson> ahh it's got a second set of connectors hidden inside, brilliant! 12:34 <@Dagmar> Just don't overtax the VM host 12:34 <@kive> fall0ut: damn skippy 12:34 <@kive> but you pay for it 12:35 <@kive> oh, I like me some vsphere, even 12:35 <@sdodson> what's vsphere do that VI3 or whatever the hell the previous generation didn't do? 12:37 <@kive> vsphere = VI4 12:37 <@kive> tons of stuff 12:37 <@kive> lots of better monitoring/instrumentation tooling 12:37 <@kive> much better plugins 12:37 <@kive> host profiles that work 12:38 <@kive> storage vmotion is much better, and vmotion works a bit cleaner 12:38 <@kive> far less bugs, which is a huge thing 12:38 <@kive> and more of a real first take at security 12:38 <@kive> aside from that, the usual improvements -- vm os support, mem, cores, etc.. 12:39 <@kive> thin disks 12:39 <@kive> tons and tons of stuff, but mainly, it breaks less, imo 12:39 <@kive> and supports bigger hosts 12:40 <@kive> We're running it on 24-core 128gb mem boxes, and it's pretty snappy 12:40 <@Dagmar> I should damn well hope so 12:40 <@kive> and I don't have to bounce my home boxes as much, either, which are significantly smaller 12:40 <@Dagmar> Now load it up with 165 VMs that run near 100% utilization and see what happens 12:40 <@kive> 8-core, 24gb throw-togethers 12:40 <@kive> I've done that many vm's without a problem, but I never get close to pegging a host to 100% 12:40 <@kive> no need to in my environment 12:41 <@kive> but that's just like any machine -- peg things to 100% and your apps and subsystems break 12:41 <@kive> and in this case your apps are other machines and things like iscsi processes 12:42 <@Dagmar> o.O 12:42 <@Dagmar> You're too used to windows if you are completely fine with things falling over for no reason other than the host is at 100% utilization 12:44 -!- sasquatc4 [sasquatc4@c-76-25-180-64.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 12:48 <@kive> well, in the virtual sense, it makes perfect sense to me 12:48 <@kive> If your reservations running > 100%, then you should be fucked/. 12:48 <@kive> If it's just excess capacity, that's a different story. 12:49 <@kive> but there's not much reason to run at 100%, anyways. 70% is more realistic, especially if you ever have to be concerned about, say, hardware fails 12:49 <@kive> You need boxes under capacity so you can vmotion stuff over to another host or whatnot 12:50 <@kive> my environment may very well be completely different than others, too, of course. 12:50 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@dialin.inttek.net] has joined #se2600 12:51 <@kive> but none of my boxes really ever get that stressed 12:51 <@Dagmar> Run Exchange. *g* 12:51 <@kive> but now that you've got me thinking about it, I might see what I can do to kill one of my home esx boxes. ;) 12:52 <@kive> just gotta vmotion everything I care about off of one first, heh 12:52 <@Dagmar> ESX has a tendency to give a VM about 150Mhz worth of CPU power soemtimes when things get overloaded 12:52 <@sdodson> i run exchange but ther'es only two intermittent users. 12:52 <@kive> <3 exchange (but that's only because I use lotus notes right now) 12:53 <@kive> (NOT my choice, thanks) 13:46 < fie> wtf 13:47 -!- sasquatc4 [sasquatc4@c-76-25-180-64.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:47 <@sdodson> wtf is up with world cup games? does this incessant fucking noise ever stop? 13:48 -!- aestetix [aestetix@pinky.ratman.org] has joined #se2600 13:51 < epoxy> no 13:56 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: um, there's been far less noise about this than either a) the Olympics or b) the Superbowl 13:57 -!- aestetix [aestetix@pinky.ratman.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:57 <@Corydon76-dig> The only difference with the Superbowl is that if you voiced being tired of it, you'd probably get beaten up 13:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Besides, in the words of George Carlin, the only point of sports is to temporarily distract you from how bad you're being fucked by the upper 1% 14:00 <@sdodson> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuvuzela#2010_FIFA_World_Cup 14:00 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: no way, this is far more annoyhting than anything i've ever heard 14:00 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: short term memory loss 14:01 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: no 14:01 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: so this is more annoying that Mac zealots claiming that Mac is impervious to viruses 14:01 <@sdodson> i don't hear that 14:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Or Linux zealots claiming that Windows is awful 14:01 <@sdodson> i read that 14:02 <@sdodson> It's the most annoying noise i've ever encountered. i don't consider speech to be noise 14:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh 14:02 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: unless it's coming from you 14:03 * Corydon76-dig bows 14:03 <@sdodson> how should i cook corn if i don't have a grill? 14:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Stand the ears up in a pot, fill with 1 inch of water, and steam them 14:04 <@sdodson> steam is better than boiling? 14:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, you want them steamed, not boiled 14:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Pretty sure boiling would make them mushy 14:07 <@Corydon76-dig> You would grill your corn with husk on, right? 14:07 <@Corydon76-dig> The moisture in the husk steams the corn on the grill 14:13 -!- Peaches1984 [ten@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:16 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: ya, apparently you soak in water for a few hours and toss it on the grill 14:16 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: i've also heard to soak it in brine but that sounds a bit too salty 14:19 -!- sasquatc4 [sasquatc4@c-76-25-180-64.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 14:19 <@Corydon76-dig> Depends. Generally you soak it in a light brine to prevent the individual kernels from bursting 14:21 <@sdodson> HOW DO YOU KNOW ALL THIS?! 14:23 -!- coill [~coil@68.143.199.242.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 14:23 <@sdodson> coill: hi 14:23 < coill> hi 14:24 < coill> hi from panera 14:25 <@sdodson> coill: you like panera? 14:25 < coill> yeah its pretty good 14:25 < coill> but im here trying to meet my group for a project/report 14:25 < coill> for school 14:25 < coill> i dunno where they are 14:25 <@sdodson> coill: they stood you up! 14:26 < coill> i hope not 14:26 < fie> hello sdodson and coill 14:26 < coill> ill probably need to walk around the place again 14:27 < coill> hi fie 14:28 < coill> oh there they are 14:28 < coill> lul they were sitting on the opposite side of the store 14:35 -!- coil_ [~coil@68.143.199.242.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 14:35 -!- coil_ is now known as Guest50429 14:35 -!- Guest50429 is now known as scool 14:35 -!- scool is now known as scoiol 14:35 < scoiol> grr 14:35 < scoiol> 30 min time limit 14:38 -!- coill [~coil@68.143.199.242.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:41 < fie> yawnz 14:46 < scoiol> any way to hack this cisco ap? 14:46 < scoiol> i need to get into the gibson 14:46 < fie> cain and abel 14:58 <@Dagmar> scoiol: The Googles. 14:59 < scoiol> hehe 14:59 < scoiol> im supposed to be working on report though :| 15:00 <@Dagmar> Do you have physical access to the equipment in question? 15:04 -!- fie [~fie@72-48-68-254.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:04 -!- fie [~fie@72-48-68-254.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined #se2600 15:06 < scoiol> no, its probably in the cieling or something 15:09 < fie> through the roof and underground 15:11 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@dialin.inttek.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32 <@sdodson> scoiol: where's eryc? 15:32 <@sdodson> ware: where's your silly little irc server? 15:32 < scoiol> i haven't seen him in months 15:32 < scoiol> on his shell 15:32 < scoiol> well vps 16:12 <@ware> ima open it up 16:18 -!- Falun [~richard@75-37-195-222.lightspeed.lsatca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:26 -!- scoiol [~coil@68.143.199.242.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:32 < fie> ware, open? 16:46 <@Dagmar> Yay G4! 16:46 <@Dagmar> They've finally regressed to the level of dumbing-down science directly with their new show called "Effing Science" 16:54 <@opticron> ugh 16:55 <@opticron> history/discovery/learning channel actually used to be worth watching 16:57 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure G4 was ever worth watching 16:57 <@Dagmar> I genuinely suspect that someone should making some kind of law against what they did with TechTV 16:57 -!- someninjamaster [~jamesrich@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: going down for equipment upgrade] 16:58 <@Dagmar> I mean, if it weren't that they're backed by Comcast, G4 would have died a loooong time ago. 16:58 <@Dagmar> They bought their one "competitor" (can you really call them a competitor, since their viewership was like what... 15 times what G4 had?), "merged" the two networks, and have been waging a relentless war against intelligence ever since 16:59 <@Dagmar> *Usually* a financial interest alone would prevent such atrocities from taking place, but that clearly failed here so perhaps it's time for legislation to step in 17:01 <@sdodson> Dagmar: THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:02 * sdodson wonders what the most relevant higher level degree for someone in IT is today 17:05 <@opticron> higher level being graduate degree? 17:05 <@sdodson> opticron: yerp 17:06 <@sdodson> The local school offers Analytics, Networking, Computer Science, and GIS 17:07 <@sdodson> I don't really think I'm a decent CS student. and I definitely don't want to be a developer. 17:09 <@sdodson> Looks like Networking is the most relevant to my interests. 17:10 <@opticron> depends on the are of IT that you do 17:10 <@opticron> analytics if you're tasked with intrusion detection and prevention 17:10 <@opticron> well...both analytics and networking 17:11 <@opticron> not sure what GIS is 17:11 <@sdodson> geographic information systems 17:11 <@sdodson> those are the geeks you see walking around campus with GPS backpacks 17:11 <@opticron> heh 17:11 -!- Falun [~richard@75-37-195-222.lightspeed.lsatca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 17:11 <@sdodson> I've used ARCGIS enough to know I never want to work in that field. 17:12 <@opticron> networking sounds like the most practical 17:13 <@sdodson> http://networking.ncsu.edu/courses.php#Core seems interesting 17:13 <@sasquatc4> my girlfriend is gettin her masters in gis right now 17:14 <@sasquatc4> sorta interesting, but yea, arcgis is a pain 17:27 < fall0ut> GIS is funky 17:28 <@coil> UCF just dropped IST as a major :( 17:28 <@coil> so now i gotta do IT 18:01 -!- aestetix [~aestetix@2002:435d:3ce5::1] has joined #se2600 18:06 -!- aestetix [~aestetix@2002:435d:3ce5::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:13 <@Dagmar> Wow 18:13 <@Dagmar> CNN is definitely desperate to give "equal time" on this BP thing 18:14 <@Dagmar> They're interviewing whiny people who want to *support* BP "in this troubled time" 18:21 <@tzanger> hahaha 18:22 < fall0ut> im not gonna boycot BP stations 18:22 < fall0ut> or even BP 18:23 <@sdodson> boycot BP cause of the spill 18:24 <@sdodson> boycot exxon because of valdeze 18:24 <@sdodson> boycot citgo because of venezuela 18:24 <@sdodson> soooo basically you can sit your ass at home and whine but don't drive anywhere 18:25 <@coil> lol 18:26 <@Dagmar> Dude, I'm about to start making bp/goatse bumper stickers and the first one is going on the back of my scooter 18:27 <@Dagmar> I'm also considering being snarky and going onto Cafe Press and setting them up to print semi-removeable stickers that say "CONTAINS 10% SEAWATER" for people to order and put on BP pumps 18:28 <@sdodson> OMG THAT WOULD BE FUNNY 18:29 <@sdodson> http://i.imgur.com/e8M9f.jpg 18:32 <@coil> OMG THAT WOULD BE FUNNY 18:44 <@opticron> OMG THAT WOULD BE FUNNY 18:44 <@sdodson> OMG THAT WOULD BE FUNNY 18:44 <@opticron> but seriously, it would be awesome 18:44 <@sdodson> you guys ready for Gnome 3.0?! 18:49 <@Dagmar> Which one 19:43 -!- unixfg [~ryan@ryan.worldspice.net] has joined #se2600 19:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfg] by ChanServ 20:50 -!- aestetix [aestetix@pinky.ratman.org] has joined #se2600 22:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: why "semi-removeable"? 22:17 -!- someninjamaster [~jamesrich@c-68-52-193-25.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:17 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 22:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: we really need these back, too: http://web.archive.org/web/20061229213237/http://subvert.us/thankyou/ 22:22 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-dig: Because from long practice of managing to not permanently damage anything when engaging in a prank I feel that increases the chances no one will get sued or arrested 22:55 -!- Peaches1984 [ten@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:57 -!- Peaches1984 [one@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:48 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 23:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ --- Log closed Mon Jun 14 00:00:04 2010