--- Log opened Thu Jun 10 00:00:04 2010 00:13 < dasunt> I like having a working sound card. 00:13 < dasunt> I really do. 01:10 <@Dagmar> Google--Now with 100% more TREES 01:10 <@Dagmar> They've added a background to their page 01:14 -!- Dolemite [~scott@99-2-141-175.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:15 -!- Dolemite [~scott@99-2-141-175.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 02:53 -!- Peaches1984 [black@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:01 -!- psyiode [~psyiode@ip68-226-127-233.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #se2600 04:01 < psyiode> ok guys 04:02 < psyiode> i want to understand this israel stuff 04:02 < psyiode> why have we been supporting them forever? 04:03 < psyiode> and geez i dont show up for years and i dont get ops? :) 04:03 < psyiode> crap its 5am you time 04:03 < psyiode> lame 04:07 < psyiode> i am still interested though 04:07 < psyiode> like reasons not based in faith at all 04:12 <@Evilpig> psyiode: ops are controlled via the bot now 04:13 <@Evilpig> 04:13 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- psyiode is not registered. 04:44 -!- psyiode [~psyiode@ip68-226-127-233.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:11 -!- sdodsonp [~wirc@cpe-075-189-132-042.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:11 -!- Dolemite [~scott@99-2-141-175.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.] 08:12 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~m0j0-j0j0@vnet503-hosoc.mcclatchyinteractive.com] has joined #se2600 08:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o m0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 08:15 -!- Dolemite [~scott@99-2-141-175.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 08:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 08:15 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:22 -!- Dolemite [~scott@99-2-141-175.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:25 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-76-22-176-23.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:47 -!- Drag0n` [~nunya@199.180.3.25] has joined #se2600 08:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Drag0n`] by ChanServ 09:23 -!- warrenjon [~warrenjon@74.223.89.220] has joined #se2600 09:59 < kive> psyiode, that's ok, I don't get ops either, lol 09:59 < kive> ack 09:59 < kive> lol 10:00 < kive> I really gotta look at timestamps when I catch up on all my channels 10:02 -ChanServ:#se2600- Corydon76-dig (Corydon76-home) set flags +vVoOtiA on kive. 10:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o kive] by ChanServ 10:03 <@Corydon76-dig> kive: generally, the primary reason people don't get ops is that they don't register with nickserv or we just haven't gotten around to adding them to the bot 10:06 <@kive> corydon76-dig: no worries, I was actually just being silly. 10:13 <@Evilpig> psyiode knew he wasn't registered. he was just busting balls to see who was awake 10:15 <@ware> ohai 10:15 <@ware> or they troll the fuck outta everyone 10:15 <@ware> and then they become channel playthings 10:16 <@ware> and go get more wasted and come back with better troll material, forging themselves in the internet to become a legend 10:16 <@Evilpig> ware you know a thing or ten about trolling right? 10:16 <@ware> after becoming hated by all and finding the darker corners of the internet 10:17 <@ware> they stop drinking and smoking drugs and clean up their act 10:17 <@ware> become more friendly and reserve the troll for worthy prey 10:17 <@ware> then they get ops again 10:17 <@ware> i think thats how it goes, or so ive heard 10:17 <@Evilpig> this is sounding like an after school special 10:17 <@ware> Evilpig: a lil bit 10:18 <@Evilpig> but I think there needs to be some type of mentor in there for it to be complete 10:18 <@ware> i know right? i cant wait for the movie hahaha 10:19 <@ware> On FedEx vehicle for delivery\ 10:19 <@ware> schhwweeeeettt 10:29 -!- Dolemite [~scott@99-2-141-175.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 10:47 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 10:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 11:08 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:20 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 11:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 11:46 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@12.17.28.3] has joined #se2600 12:15 -!- Venom_X is now known as Venom_lnch 13:26 < Todd> young punk 13:32 < dzup> whats the meaning of channel name? 14:06 -!- Peaches1984 [pink@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:06 <@Corydon76-dig> dzup: South East 2600 14:09 <@rattle> Fucking-a.. It's rare I agree with MSFT.. But Google fucked up here.. http://blogs.technet.com/b/msrc/archive/2010/06/10/windows-help-vulnerability-disclosure.aspx 14:09 <@rattle> 4 days recess time on a disclosure that's potentially serious... What fucking morons! 14:16 <@Corydon76-dig> rattle: just one moron 14:17 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@12.17.28.3] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:19 -!- Corydon76-dig changed the topic of #se2600 to: PhreakNIC 14 to be held October 15-17, 2010 | SE2600 Summer Field Trip July 31 - Ask Dolemite for details 14:21 -!- Peaches1984 [pink@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 ["Leaving"] 14:21 -!- Peaches1984 [indigo@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:36 -!- dzup [dzup@unaffiliated/dzup] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:22 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@dialin.inttek.net] has joined #se2600 15:31 <@opticron> huh...google just kind of gave m$ the middle finger and a foot up the ass 15:32 <@ware> meh 15:32 <@ware> individual that worked at google 15:33 <@opticron> yeah 15:34 <@opticron> i'm not sure what the details are, but I doubt that google's upper management declared that they would disclose things publicly reeeealy early 15:46 <@ware> yah 15:53 <@rattle> I think the researcher did it on his own.. I was just chastising him on twitter. 15:53 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@dialin.inttek.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:56 <@Dagmar> Damnit. 15:56 <@Dagmar> I *liked* Google's new backgrounds 15:59 <@Dagmar> I don't see how four days really matters since Microsoft has a history of sitting on shit like that for a month or more before admitting to a damn thing. 16:01 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~m0j0-j0j0@vnet503-hosoc.mcclatchyinteractive.com] has left #se2600 [] 16:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: 4 weeks is pretty much standard time now, for unacknowledged reports 16:11 <@Dagmar> Yeah that's why I'm thinking four days is nothin' 16:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: I meant standard time for a security researcher to wait before going public 16:13 -!- dzup [dzup@support.team.at.shellium.org] has joined #se2600 16:13 -!- dzup [dzup@support.team.at.shellium.org] has quit [Changing host] 16:13 -!- dzup [dzup@unaffiliated/dzup] has joined #se2600 16:13 <@Corydon76-dig> While I'd love for us to be able to have a fix within an hour of getting news of a vulnerability, it's sometimes not always that simple 16:14 -!- Peaches1984 [indigo@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 ["Leaving"] 16:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Sometimes, someone finds a vulnerability in a protocol, and the protocol needs alteration, with the whole damn stack involved, plus a method for allowing backwards compatibility, for installations that need to upgrade but also need to stay compatible with a host that cannot upgrade 16:15 <@Corydon76-dig> and that can take considerably longer than 4 days 16:16 <@ware> a vulnerability, it's sometimes not always that simple 16:16 <@ware> whoops 16:18 <@Corydon76-dig> The only people full disclosure appeals to are researchers... the people who have to either protect their systems from script kiddies or the vendors who have to come up with the patches prefer a healthy advance warning 16:20 <@Corydon76-dig> There's only one particular scenario where I would support full disclosure, and that is in a situation where the vendor has been notified well in advance (at least six months), and they've made no effort to coordinate disclosure with the reporter 16:20 <@ware> i enjoy full disclosure in most aspects of my life 16:20 <@ware> that is still full disclosure 16:20 <@ware> its just in a responsible manner 16:24 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: while that's literally true, there's a particular belief in the infosec community called Full Disclosure, and it conflicts with Responsible Disclosure 16:25 <@ware> always 16:26 -!- Drag0n` [~nunya@199.180.3.25] has quit [Quit: connection reset by year, NTPDate strikes again!!!!] 16:30 <@ware> ¡ʎɹoʇs ǝnɹʇ ˙uıboן ǝɯ ʇǝן ʇı puɐ "ǝɹɐʍ" sɐʍ ʇɐɥʇ ʎuuǝן uɐıqǝp uı ʇunoɔɔɐ uɐ pǝʇɐǝɹɔ ǝɔuo ı 16:35 <@opticron> lies 16:39 <@ware> "ǝɹɐʍ" 16:39 <@ware> for true 16:39 <@ware> would not let me connect to irc with "ǝɹɐʍ" as ident tho 16:39 <@ware> ask brimstone 16:41 <@brimstone> true story 16:43 <@ware> http://www.fliptext.org/ 17:06 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: whose ident daemon were you attempting to use? 17:06 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm showing a provision within the ident protocol to use an alternative character set, though the default is US-ASCII 17:09 <@Dagmar> Corydon: Unfortunately I would not dream of waiting six months. That's *far* too long for China and Russia to have a goddamn field day. 17:10 <@Dagmar> Windows help facility isn't that easy to get to remotely anyhoo, so four days.... pfft. Doesn't matter much 17:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, but most vulnerabilities these days aren't remote, anyway. They're social engineering attacks 17:11 <@Dagmar> Joan Websurfer isn't terribly likely to be affected by it, but corporate folks trying to keep a desktop secure are another matter 17:11 <@Dagmar> Damn my arms got some sun today alright 17:14 <@Corydon76-dig> CSRF is pretty darn close to social engineering 17:26 <@Dagmar> Fucking sweet http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4226.txt 17:26 <@Dagmar> I can't believe I missed that being published 17:46 -!- warrenjon [~warrenjon@74.223.89.220] has left #se2600 [] 18:06 -!- dzup [dzup@unaffiliated/dzup] has quit [Quit: I love FreeBSD] 18:36 -!- Venom_lnch [~pjacobs@adsl-99-3-159-249.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Venom_lnch] 18:39 -!- dzup [dzup@support.team.at.shellium.org] has joined #se2600 18:39 -!- dzup [dzup@support.team.at.shellium.org] has quit [Changing host] 18:39 -!- dzup [dzup@unaffiliated/dzup] has joined #se2600 20:13 -!- epoxy [~lsthree@68-112-53-229.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 20:17 <@Dementia> Corydon76-dig: you around? 20:42 -!- epoxy_ [~lsthree@68-112-53-229.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 20:42 -!- epoxy [~lsthree@68-112-53-229.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 21:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 21:41 -!- epoxy_ [~lsthree@68-112-53-229.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42 -!- epoxy [~lsthree@68-112-53-229.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 21:53 -!- epoxy [~lsthree@68-112-53-229.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:11 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Dementia: got the message, thank you 23:22 <@sasquatc4> now i know everyone was right about the high schools nearby going downhill, kesha went to brentwood and just graduated recently, see what they are producing now 23:23 -!- Peaches1984 [yellow@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:29 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 23:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ --- Log closed Fri Jun 11 00:00:04 2010