--- Log opened Fri Apr 23 00:00:42 2010 00:15 -!- Mirage [~mirage@ra.thehippo.net] has joined #se2600 00:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 00:47 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-169-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 00:49 -!- mog [~mog@c-68-62-169-225.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mog] by ChanServ 00:57 < ware> Young college girls are vajazzling their private regions in efforts to tempt young men to mate with them and have children out of wedlock. These dangerous trends are exposing men to risks of fatherhood, STDs and even dropping out of school. 01:08 < fie> ware, I never realized you were so concerned about society. 01:25 <@tzanger> vajazzling? 01:46 -!- foe [~fie@208.1.30.129] has joined #se2600 01:51 < foe> it's time for me to put on my pants! 02:27 -!- Peaches1984 [ten@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:40 -!- Peaches1984 [eleven@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:46 -!- fie [~fie@208.1.30.129] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:00 -!- fie [~fie@208.1.30.129] has joined #se2600 03:01 -!- foe [~fie@208.1.30.129] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:15 -!- Peaches1984 [eleven@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 05:02 < fie> hello world 07:27 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-76-22-176-23.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:31 <@Evilpig> http://www.biddingforgood.com/auction/item/Item.action?id=110159597 08:56 < ware> wutup 08:58 < h1t3ch> y0 09:09 -!- Drag0n` [~nunya@199.180.3.25] has joined #se2600 09:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Drag0n`] by ChanServ 09:14 < nachoguy> mr0nin 10:05 -!- CRasH180 [~kmeldridg@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 10:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 10:29 -!- Neoteric [~timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #se2600 10:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 10:29 -!- Neoteric [~timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has left #se2600 [] 10:29 -!- Neoteric [~timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #se2600 10:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 10:30 -!- nefD [~nefD@adsl-068-016-097-246.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 10:35 -!- husky [~threepoin@23.166.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 10:36 -!- husky is now known as malamute 10:36 -!- malamute is now known as coil_ 10:36 -!- coil_ [~threepoin@23.166.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [Changing host] 10:36 -!- coil_ [~threepoin@unaffiliated/coil] has joined #se2600 10:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o coil_] by ChanServ 10:36 -!- coil_ is now known as malamute 10:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+b *!*w@*.hackor.org] by malamute 10:40 -!- ware was kicked from #se2600 by malamute [ware] 10:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!*w@*.hackor.org] by malamute 10:50 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@71.20.102.220] has joined #se2600 10:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 11:15 -!- ware [w@el8.hackor.org] has joined #se2600 11:30 -!- scort [coil@unaffiliated/coil] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:31 -!- Neoteric [~timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:31 -!- Neoteric [~timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #se2600 11:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 11:47 -!- Peaches1984 [one@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:54 -!- Neoteric [~timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:10 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@dialin.inttek.net] has joined #se2600 13:13 -!- ForgottenFunk [~ElbinoBun@c-71-228-193-6.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:27 -!- fie [~fie@208.1.30.129] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:45 <@Dagmar> Wow 13:45 <@Dagmar> http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/04/two-beautiful-ads-for-google-chrome.html 13:45 <@Dagmar> They're not joking. 13:45 <@Dagmar> _beautiful_ 13:45 -!- fie [~fie@208.1.30.129] has joined #se2600 13:45 <@Dagmar> The one for extentions is awesome 14:08 <@Dagmar> rofl 14:08 <@devoid> Wow. That's sad. 14:08 <@Dagmar> Lufthansa has offered the guy who left his prototype iPhone in a bar to Germany for free 14:08 <@Dagmar> Free tickets 14:09 <@Dagmar> devoid: What's sad about it 14:09 <@Dagmar> It's a beautiful set piece 14:14 < nachoguy> http://lh4.ggpht.com/_TVVDdbRQQfg/SCxoCLN7vrI/AAAAAAAABDo/r7i7qxAvtkM/1196190768115.jpg 14:16 < epoxy> uhh wow 14:16 * epoxy boggles 14:17 <@tzanger> bah I was expecting beautiful women 14:17 < ware> http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs466.ash1/25603_436295588218_506303218_5563853_1223089_n.jpg 14:21 < nachoguy> nice ware 14:21 < epoxy> time to dump 9.10 off there 14:24 < ware> ima haxin on it 14:24 < ware> just using those for examples to show my boss 14:24 < ware> avg and dell are giving me issues booting 14:24 < ware> im not sure how / if any bootable iso's will "just work" over pxe 14:24 < ware> seems like they should tho *shrug* 14:28 <@Dagmar> Possibly "just work" is a bit misleadign since afaik you're still going to need to mount the ISO over (probably) NFS 14:28 <@Dagmar> A 650Mb boot image is going to be a bit to swallow all at once. Heh 14:29 < ware> thats what i was thinking too 14:30 <@Dagmar> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478 looks like these guys are mostly doin' it tho 14:30 < ware> i gotta figure out how to do it 14:30 < ware> i saw one you can kickstart it and point it to a webserver 14:30 <@Dagmar> Yeah that's the main point of kickstart actually 14:30 < epoxy> ware, what are you trying to accomplish ? 14:30 <@Dagmar> They were emulating Sun's JumpStart (without all the maddening bugs) 14:30 < epoxy> an AV solution ? 14:31 <@Dagmar> That would be one way to get a trusted environment for AV scanning 14:31 < epoxy> yeah 14:32 < epoxy> we do something like that with out clients 14:32 < epoxy> s/out/our 14:36 -!- devoid is now known as wolf 14:37 -!- wolf is now known as devoid 14:43 < ware> epoxy: diagnostic station 14:45 < ware> diagnostic VLAN* really 14:46 < ware> id like to have the infrastructure in place to image machines too 14:48 < epoxy> foh 14:48 < epoxy> *fog 14:48 < epoxy> is the shti 14:48 < epoxy> i give up 14:48 * epoxy mutters back off to work 15:13 -!- devoid [yiffstar66@unaffiliated/devemo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:14 -!- devoid [yiffstar66@unaffiliated/devemo] has joined #se2600 15:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o devoid] by ChanServ 15:15 -!- jnds [~ljugo@74-141-112-153.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #se2600 15:18 -!- Jagobah [~ljugo@74-141-112-153.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:18 -!- BassCad [~pixelpunk@spam.hoops-lp.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:19 -!- BassCad [~pixelpunk@spam.hoops-lp.com] has joined #se2600 15:19 <@Dagmar> WIN http://thereifixedit.com/2010/04/23/epic-kludge-photo-automatic-lawn-mower/ 15:36 < nachoguy> I think that's from an add 15:36 < nachoguy> err, ad 16:03 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@dialin.inttek.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:05 <@Dagmar> Bears: Nature's Plonking Tool 16:14 -!- ladymerlin [~ladymerli@209.12.254.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17 <@Dagmar> Jesus 16:17 -!- ladymerlin [~ladymerli@75-149-100-253-Nashville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 16:17 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ladymerlin] by ChanServ 16:17 <@Dagmar> Consumer Depot of all places has netbooks for cheap 16:17 <@Dagmar> God help me I hate those people 16:20 < fie> 16:20 bitches! 16:33 -!- Drag0n` [~nunya@199.180.3.25] has quit [Quit: connection reset by year, NTPDate strikes again!!!!] 16:37 -!- CRasH180 [~kmeldridg@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:33 -!- fie [~fie@208.1.30.129] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:43 -!- polerin [~erin@c-98-193-146-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:43 -!- Lissa [~lissa@c-98-193-146-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:44 -!- Lissa [~lissa@c-98-193-146-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:45 -!- polerin [~erin@c-98-193-146-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:47 -!- Lissa [~lissa@c-98-193-146-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:47 -!- polerin [~erin@c-98-193-146-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:49 -!- Lissa [~lissa@c-98-193-146-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:50 -!- polerin [~erin@c-98-193-146-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:09 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@71.20.102.220] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 18:21 -!- fie [~fie@208.1.30.129] has joined #se2600 19:05 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@71-15-27-168.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 19:24 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@71-15-27-168.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:27 <@Dagmar> Irritable admins: 6 dhpot: 0 19:27 <@Dagmar> I'm getting fucking tired of seeing admin/admin 20:08 <@Shadow404> er? admin down when shouldnt be? 20:09 <@Dagmar> No, just these fucking home router appliances that keep getting abused by script kiddies 20:09 <@Dagmar> Every day I check my logs for people trying to connect *here* on port 23. 20:10 <@Dagmar> More often than not, I can telnet to that IP, and they've got default credentials, AND they're running some fucking scanning worm 20:10 <@Dagmar> So generally I murder the worm, then disable remote network administration from off their home LAN 20:10 <@Dagmar> Barring that, I change the password. 20:13 <@Shadow404> heh, first rule, always change default pass 20:14 <@Dagmar> Actually, I'd say the _real_ first rule is "never design a product with a trivial password and internet-facing administration mechanisms as defaults." 20:15 <@Dagmar> ...like to the point that I'm tempted to go grab the latest DD-WRT, hack it up to make the default password the goddamn MAC address (since it's printed on the underside of the things) and submit it to them with a scolding. 20:52 -!- scoil is now known as PuppyNuts 20:58 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-71-59-4-23.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o [1NF0]] by ChanServ 21:00 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@71-15-27-168.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 21:13 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@71-15-27-168.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:17 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@71-15-27-168.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 21:31 < rattleX> Dagmar: Whatever. dd-wrt's biggest issue is that once someone gets an instance doing what they want it to, they don't update it. dd-wrt is far from hardened. It's got lots of sploits in the wild. 21:32 < rattleX> With the big cravat of "unless you are on top of your shit" which is always valid... Running dd-wrt will make you less secure than the default firmware. 21:32 < rattleX> Sorry to shit on anyones' parade. 21:37 < ware> show us 21:37 < ware> cause i agree with dagmar 22:14 <@dasunt> Is it internet facing? Most of the home routers and firewalls I know of only have access on the LAN side. 22:14 <@dasunt> So I'm guessing default password is tried from a botted CD. 22:14 <@dasunt> Er, PC. 22:42 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@71-15-27-168.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:44 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: The problem is that it's made extremely easy to enable it on the WAN side, which people set and forget 23:44 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Is that most of the exploits though? 23:45 <@Corydon76-dig> OTOH, debating whether default firmware or ddwrt is more insecure is kind of like debating whether lead or arsenic is a more toxic poison 23:46 <@Corydon76-dig> If you're on top of your shit, you won't have a router like that outward facing in the first place 23:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Or the inane table sugar vs high fructose corn syrup argument 23:48 <@coil> fuck hfcs 23:49 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: once they pass the digestive system, they are functionally identical. One is merely a compound of the other 23:50 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@71-15-27-168.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 23:50 <@Corydon76-dig> The reason they call it high fructose isn't that it has higher fructose than table sugar; it's because normal corn syrup has basically no fructose at all 23:53 <@coil> it still makes you fat and lazy 23:54 <@Corydon76-dig> No more than regular table sugar --- Log closed Sat Apr 24 00:00:42 2010