--- Log opened Thu Feb 11 00:00:06 2010 00:23 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-69-245-11-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:24 -!- epoxy [~epoxy@pdpc/supporter/active/epoxy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:41 -!- bbCRasH180 is now known as CRasH180 00:42 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@96.5.81.157] has quit [Changing host] 00:42 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 00:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 01:24 -!- chalcedony [~llhull@unaffiliated/chalcedony] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:39 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:40 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 01:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 01:41 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Client Quit] 01:55 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @opticron, @Dagmar 01:59 -!- Netsplit over, joins: opticron 01:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 02:17 -!- opticron [~opticron@74-95-48-251-Huntsville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:18 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:23 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@the.narro.ws] has joined #se2600 02:23 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@the.narro.ws] has quit [Changing host] 02:23 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has joined #se2600 02:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 02:25 -!- opticron [~opticron@74-95-48-251-Huntsville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 02:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 03:17 -!- vaneck [~vaneck@96-38-5-122.static.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:52 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@c-98-193-180-167.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:52 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@c-98-193-180-167.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 03:52 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #se2600 03:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 04:53 -!- chalcedony [~llhull@unaffiliated/chalcedony] has joined #se2600 07:42 -!- [1NF0] [~1NF0]@c-24-99-33-89.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:05 -!- Peaches1984 [~Peaches19@bna-69-171-173-11.evdo.leapwireless.net] has joined #se2600 09:00 <@Evilpig> Starcraft 2 beta starts this month! 09:02 * Shadow404 yawns 09:10 -!- Dolemite [~scott@99-2-141-173.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 09:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 09:10 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 09:20 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~m0j0-j0j0@vnet503-hosoc.mcclatchyinteractive.com] has joined #se2600 09:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o m0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 09:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> hey hey 09:24 <@Dolemite> sup, m0j0? 09:45 < ware> NOOB 09:45 <@Dolemite> warebe0tch! 09:45 <@Dolemite> When you gonna make a WoW toon on Detheroc? 09:45 < ware> nevar! 09:46 <@Shadow404> when you gonna diaf? 09:46 <@Dolemite> why you no love us n-e-more? 09:46 < ware> i got a 71 rogue and 35 warrior and 36 druid to finish lvlin 09:46 < ware> to go along with my 80 lock 80 dk and 80 shaman 09:46 < ware> lol 09:46 <@Dolemite> Shit, come over to Detheroc and we'll run you up to 80 in no time! 09:46 <@Shadow404> meh, i im busy with my longsword, i haz no time for wow 09:47 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I'm approaching 80 on my third toon and have a priest that I've been playing around with the last week that was supposed to just be a vendor toon 09:47 < ware> bout to start back workin so im not gonna have a bunch of extra time to WoW 09:47 < ware> i like leveling just as much as end game raids 09:47 <@Dolemite> they don't let you bring your laptop back into the food prep area? 09:47 <@Shadow404> lawl 09:47 < ware> loool 09:47 < ware> ima start back at my old company 09:48 < ware> hopefully monday, but i got a meetin about that tomorrow 09:48 <@Shadow404> so? working as a john then? 09:48 <@Shadow404> i hope it has good health benefits 09:48 < ware> lulz 09:53 <@Dolemite> ok, time to do some web development so I don't get too far behind 09:55 < ware> how goes the vandy? 09:57 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 09:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 10:18 < eryc> aint no sunshine 10:18 < eryc> when shes gone 10:51 <@polerin> oh hai bill 11:37 <@Evilpig> habenero jack and ritz crackers. damn this has a little heat to it 11:43 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 12:06 -!- Peaches1984 [~Peaches19@bna-69-171-173-11.evdo.leapwireless.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:28 -!- Peaches1984 [~Peaches19@bna-69-171-173-216.evdo.leapwireless.net] has joined #se2600 12:50 <@Dagmar> UHOH 12:50 <@Dagmar> Google just took a bite out of facebook space 12:54 <@Dagmar> Go over and congratulate him on having solved the funding problem and ask when they'll be interviewing new people to fill the positions 12:55 -!- Venom_X is now known as Venom_lnch 12:55 <@Dagmar> Wrong chan. Someone's school decided the best way to compress schedules was to have classes with pre-requisites taught at the same time as the pre-reqs 12:55 <@Dagmar> ...which might be okay for students, but my instructor friend has a problem with teaching both at hte same time 12:58 < eryc> buzz is lame 12:59 < eryc> google has too many nerds to do social science right 13:00 < eryc> ie. orkut, wave 13:00 <@Dagmar> wave isn't a social app, it's a collaboration app 13:02 < eryc> same thing, still sucks 13:03 < eryc> buzz is like a shitty version of 4chan 13:03 <@Dagmar> Undercity 13:09 < kive> Google Buzz... I went from wtf? to Oh, nice, as it presented me with this little gem: http://oddlyspecific.com/2010/02/funny-signs-why-msu-is-better/ 13:09 < kive> But yeah, otherwise it's like, "Oh, I get to read my RSS feeds twice now, great." 13:10 < kive> dagmar: wave is a rickrolling app. :P 13:10 < eryc> there's a link to turn it off if you didnt alreayd know 13:11 < kive> as long as it hands me a link like that every day, I'll leave it be for now, but thanks. ;) 13:11 <@Dagmar> Why would I care to turn it off? 13:11 <@Dagmar> It sure as hell beats dealing with a company that's aggressively cyberstalking the entire goddamn planet 13:12 < eryc> you mean besides google? 13:12 <@Dagmar> Whatever trollface 13:13 < eryc> no ur a trollface! 13:14 <@Shadow404> no U 13:14 * Dagmar puts eryc in the ignore list, again 13:15 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: same ignore list as ware? 13:15 <@Dagmar> ware isn't as prone to trying to waste my time with retarded arguments 13:15 <@Shadow404> ah, so coil and brimstone are on the list then? 13:15 <@Dagmar> He acts like either a complete idiot, or a reasonable person with little in-between 13:16 <@Shadow404> heh 13:18 < coil_> who 13:18 <@Shadow404> well, that definition works for you too 13:18 < coil_> lol 13:18 < coil_> no 13:20 <@Shadow404> no u 13:21 <@Dagmar> yeah that's awesome 13:21 <@Dagmar> The contractor fixing some drywall just showed up 13:21 <@Dagmar> He was supposed to be back on Sunday 13:21 <@Dagmar> Quality 13:45 < rattleXw> I wonder how far Google will stray from approaching actual problems... 13:45 < rattleXw> I'm getting a kick out of their announcement about building a gigabit broadband service. 13:45 < rattleXw> What's the point? 13:46 < rattleXw> I don't think there is a storage speed breakthrough happening anytime soon.. 13:46 < rattleXw> And once you get 20mbit+, that's the issue. 13:47 <@Dagmar> By the time it gets built, that issue will probably not be the same anymore 13:47 < rattleXw> What's the point of being able to pull down a video at 125MB/sec if you can only write it to disk at around 20MB/sec? 13:48 < rattleXw> As I said, I don't see any serious breakthroughs coming in storage speed.. It's a huge issue for tech in general. Storage isn't getting much faster. 13:48 <@Dagmar> Disk write cache working to nullify the effect of latency and chop 13:48 < rattleXw> Even the enterprise nand stuff tops out around 200MB/sec.. 13:48 < rattleXw> And that's on reads. 13:48 <@Dagmar> You also seem to think they'll be able to stop AT&T and the other monopolists from making it take ten years to roll it out 13:49 < rattleXw> If we could just get 20mbit service the norm, that would be helpful. 13:49 < rattleXw> They should focus on that, rather than focusing on gbit. 13:49 <@Dagmar> Won't be happening anytime soon with the people currently running hte infrastructure 13:50 <@Dagmar> As far as Comcast is concerned, the only way people are getting even ten times their current bandwidth is when Comcast figures out how to charge them ten times as much as now, and not a minute before 13:50 < rattleXw> And you think Google approaching the situation selling something no one can actually use is going to help the situation? 13:51 <@Dagmar> It'll highlight that these monopolies are beneficial to no one 13:51 < rattleXw> Just like their community wifi push? 13:52 <@Dagmar> That one must have met so much opposition I didn't even get to hear about it 13:52 < rattleXw> That actually made sense.. But they lost the will to push once they smacked into the reglatory crap. 13:52 <@Dagmar> Either that or you're talking about something ages old 13:52 < rattleXw> This is about press releases, not real progress. 13:53 <@Dagmar> *Someone* has to fail or the telcos will continue to claim ther'es no problem 13:53 <@Dagmar> At least Google can afford to throw something out there, knowing it's not going to happen 14:03 -!- Venom_lnch is now known as Venom_X 15:05 <@rhia> http://www.youaredumb.net/archive/all/2010/2/11 SC Subversive Activities Registration Act 15:06 <@Dagmar> What the hell 15:06 <@Dagmar> Someone should sue the people who wrote that on general principle 15:06 <@Dagmar> Just for it being so hevily unconstitutional 15:08 <@Dagmar> THat article is wrong. 15:09 <@Dagmar> The "loophole" doesn't exist. 15:09 <@Dagmar> File charges against the teabaggers 15:11 <@Dagmar> Mr Lambert needs to read more carefully. 15:12 <@Dagmar> 1m, 5m, 15m. 15:12 -!- Peaches1984 [~Peaches19@bna-69-171-173-216.evdo.leapwireless.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:24 < kive> I haven't seen this announcement, but you guys sure that google isn't referring to the distribution tech when they say gig broadband? 15:25 < kive> and hey rhia 15:25 <@rhia> hey kive =) 15:25 < kive> I do see benefit, btw, in making it clear that the network isn't the bottleneck -- that's been blamed for ages. 15:26 < kive> And Google has a vested interest in seeing disk storage get faster/cheaper/bigger/better/etc... maybe that's part of their goal here, "quit blaming the network. We can take that out of the picture. Now go fix those server/disk technologies." 15:27 < kive> rhia: that's just... wow. The self-descriptive paragraph is the best. 15:27 < kive> "Every subversive organization and organization subject to foreign control shall register with the Secretary of State on forms prescribed by him within thirty days after coming into existence in this State..." 15:27 < kive> Please tell me what consultants got paid to write *that* one. ;) 15:27 <@rhia> heh 15:28 <@Dagmar> Not anyone versed in what is and isn't unconstitutional, that's for sure 15:28 <@rhia> youaredumb is usually a good place for great snark 15:28 < kive> Yup, it's a great laugh. Shall we take it on ourselves to notify subversives that they must register? 15:29 < kive> There are some churches, for example... I hear religious differences often lead to wars and conflicts? 15:29 <@rhia> really?! 15:29 < kive> And since separation of church and state.... the church must be obviously subversive to the state 15:32 <@Dagmar> I wanna see the forms. 15:32 <@Dagmar> This is some bullshit we need to embarrass someone over. 15:32 <@Dagmar> I'll bet the forms have no provision for foreign agents acting as individuals 15:33 <@Drag0n> its south carolina, if they cant be embarrased about marying realatives, stupid laws wont fase em 15:33 <@Dagmar> Oh they'll care if someone sets up a circus sideshow to entertain the media 15:34 <@Dagmar> This is an offenseive waste of time and taxpayer money 15:34 <@Drag0n> dag, the SC governement IS a circus sideshow, they wont know the difference 15:34 <@Dagmar> drag0n: You aren't trying hard enough yet 15:34 <@rhia> eh, Sanford "hiking the Appalachian Trail" didn't faze 'em, and that had all kinds of press 15:35 <@Drag0n> and flying to south america to meet a mistress on the taxpayers dime isnt a waste of money? 15:35 <@rhia> it had everything, this is just some boring 'law' 15:35 <@Dagmar> It would have, if he'd set up a website documenting his "location" and had a live webcam feed of him eating mushrooms and fucking that Argentinian girl 15:35 < kive> If we could actually get the state to sue the church for not registering as a subversive organization, I think we might have some very entertaining news possibilities coming out of SC. 15:35 <@Drag0n> but that would possibly make the state money, thats not SC style 15:35 < kive> Is this signed into law, or just a proposed act, rhia? 15:36 < kive> sue/take regulatory action/whatever 15:36 <@Dagmar> http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t23c029.htm 15:36 <@Drag0n> its law, passed last year and just came active 15:36 < kive> loverly 15:36 < kive> So if Al Gore visits, does he have to register? 15:37 < kive> Having created the Internets and all? 15:37 <@Dagmar> You could probably already use it against the teabaggers. 15:37 <@Dagmar> Do it. 15:37 <@Drag0n> i grew up is SC, trust me, inteligence is not a governement strong point 15:37 < kive> Or is that just Vint Cerf? 15:37 <@Dagmar> "(1) "Subversive organization" means every corporation, society, association, camp, group, bund, political party, assembly, body or organization, composed of two or more persons, which directly or indirectly advocates, advises, teaches or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States, of this State or of any political subdivision thereof by force or violence or other unl 15:37 <@Dagmar> Are the teabaggers talking about overthrowing the democrats? Absolutely. 15:37 <@Dagmar> First hurdle completed. 15:37 <@Dagmar> "The terms of this chapter do not apply to any labor union or religious, fraternal or patriotic organization, society or association, or their members, whose objectives and aims do not contemplate the overthrow of the government of the United States, of this State or of any political subdivision thereof by force or violence or other unlawful means." 15:38 <@Corydon76-dig> I think that's a stretch 15:38 <@Dagmar> Easy enough to find them snarking about things that would land other people in jail 15:38 <@rhia> basically, the DNC and the GOP would both qualify as 'subversive' - did they pay their 5 bucks? 15:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Besides, you need to have standing to prosecute, and pretty much only the SC SoS has that standing 15:38 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-dig: It's not a stretch of any kind because they don't mention anything about illegalities or violence in the definition of subversiver organization 15:39 < kive> I don't even see what they -hoped- to accomplish with this, though 15:39 <@Dagmar> You paint the teabaggers in the worst light possible using _facts_, dress it up in a ten minute presentation, and show it to the media 15:39 <@Corydon76-dig> kive: same reason that certain states put a tax on marijuana, cocaine, and hooch 15:40 <@Dagmar> kive: They hoped to accomplish making it look like they're doing something, so they can take credit for no further terrorist incidents happening. 15:40 <@Corydon76-dig> If you can't get them on the illegality, you get them on tax evasion. 15:40 <@Corydon76-dig> It's the Al Capone conviction 15:40 <@Dagmar> The Al Capone conviction was clean 15:40 <@Dagmar> This isn't. 15:40 <@Dagmar> This law makes it illegal to do something illegal. 15:40 <@Dagmar> *buzz* 15:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, but it's the same basic idea 15:41 <@Corydon76-dig> No, this law makes it illegal to do things that are illegal without registering first 15:41 <@Dagmar> No, it's not. 15:41 <@Dagmar> Anyone registering would be confessing to a crime. 15:42 <@Corydon76-dig> Not necessarily. Freedom of assembly. 15:43 <@Dagmar> Yes, necessarily. 15:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Eh, it'll be tossed out on appeal, then 15:45 <@Dagmar> it's still a shit law and a waste of money 15:45 <@Corydon76-dig> If we imprisoned legislators for passing shit laws that wasted money, we'd have nobody in the legislature left 15:46 <@Corydon76-dig> It happens. Learn to laugh about it. 15:47 <@Corydon76-dig> If they sense the entire country is laughing at them, they'll waste no time in repealing it 15:47 <@Drag0n> the real question is, how long before this ends up on the dumb laws web site 15:48 * rhia mumbles something about it still snowing here 15:49 <@Dagmar> FUCK laughing at it 15:49 <@Dagmar> The reason we have nothing but bullshit going on is *people just laughing about it* 15:50 <@Dagmar> If we threw more motherfuckers OUT OF OFFICE for being ignorant douchebags, there would be less ignorant douchebaggery 15:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, as a TN resident, how exactly are you going to throw SC legislators out of office? 15:51 <@Dagmar> They can either do nothing, or they can do something useful, but they shoudl be not be doing useless shit and pretending they're doing something 15:51 <@Dagmar> Go find someone else to play Devil's Advocate with 15:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Besides, their laws stop at the SC border. If you don't like their laws, don't go to SC. 15:51 <@Dagmar> Again, go find someone else to play Devil's Advocate with 15:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Complain all you like about TN legislators or TN reps and senators in Congress... 15:52 <@Dagmar> For my part, I intend to make sure the pro-rape stances of Corker and Alexander are very well known during the next election 15:52 <@Corydon76-dig> There ya go 15:53 <@Dagmar> Telling people "just laugh at it" makes you a part of the problem 15:54 -!- Peaches1984 [~Peaches19@bna-69-171-173-60.evdo.leapwireless.net] has joined #se2600 15:57 <@polerin> dag: damn fucking straight 16:06 -!- emwav [~emwav@166.137.8.221] has joined #se2600 16:10 -!- emwav [~emwav@166.137.8.221] has quit [Client Quit] 16:12 -!- emwav [~emwav@166.137.8.221] has joined #se2600 16:12 -!- emwav [~emwav@166.137.8.221] has quit [Client Quit] 16:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: I'm really not going to worry about it. It's South Carolina, and I have no control to exert over their legislators. I can laugh at it, and move on with my life. If you want to have a brain aneurism over it, that's your business. 16:20 <@Dagmar> Blah blah blah 16:20 <@Dagmar> Clearly you cared enough to try and piss on other people's days 16:20 -!- Venom_X is now known as Venom_bbiab 16:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, you got me. I'm all about pissing on other people's days. 16:21 <@Dagmar> Again, if you're telling people to just laugh at the situation instead of doing something like expressing their displeasure or working to get a motherfucker out of office YOU ARE PART OF THE MOTHERFUCKING PROBLEM 16:21 <@Dagmar> And it's NOT funny. 16:21 -!- Peaches1984 [~Peaches19@bna-69-171-173-60.evdo.leapwireless.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Again, brain aneurism, your business. 16:22 <@Dagmar> Again, playing devil's advocate as a substitute for being useful, your buisness 16:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Hey, I'm stuck in a useless phone conference right now 16:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Had the same discussion a week ago; nothing has changed in the intervening time. 16:35 -!- emwav [~emwav@166.137.8.221] has joined #se2600 16:36 -!- emwav [~emwav@166.137.8.221] has quit [Client Quit] 16:49 -!- kive [~kive@unaffiliated/kive] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:17 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [~m0j0-j0j0@vnet503-hosoc.mcclatchyinteractive.com] has left #se2600 [] 17:28 -!- Venom_bbiab is now known as Venom_X 18:21 <@aestetix> Fuck. 18:21 <@aestetix> Anyone here know much about thunderbird and/or email archiving? 18:21 <@aestetix> I accidentally archived an important email and now I can't find it 18:22 <@aestetix> And it disspeared from gmail :( 18:23 <@aestetix> whew fixed it 18:30 <@Dagmar> Mail can't disappear from gmail. 18:30 <@Dagmar> Not unless you've been trying to use it as off-site storage. 18:30 <@Dagmar> You have to explicitly delete it, because they _don't_ 19:34 -!- Venom_X [~pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Venom_X] 21:06 -!- Peaches1984 [mauve@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:15 -!- Peaches1984 [mauve@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:18 -!- atg [~atg@pdpc/supporter/student/ATravelingGeek] has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 21:19 -!- atg_ [~atg@209.123.234.126] has joined #se2600 21:25 -!- atg_ is now known as atg 21:26 -!- fie [~fie@208.1.30.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:26 -!- fie [~fie@208.1.30.114] has joined #se2600 21:31 -!- fie [~fie@208.1.30.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:45 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 21:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 21:48 -!- fie [~fie@ip70-178-145-175.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 23:12 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 23:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 23:21 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21 -!- CRasH180 [~crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 23:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 23:55 -!- fie [~fie@ip70-178-145-175.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Feb 12 00:00:06 2010