--- Log opened Tue Feb 09 00:00:06 2010
00:11 <@dasunt> http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/02/08/sl-letter-of-the-day-the-toilet-brush-off#more
00:11 <@dasunt> 1. Creepy.
00:11 <@dasunt> 2. Someone paying me $50 to clean my apartment?
00:11  * dasunt ponders if #2 outweighs #1.
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01:11 <@Dagmar> Words to describe the weather outside:
01:12 <@Dagmar> Sodden, mushy, puddles-fucking-everwhere, depressing, retched, pathetic.
01:12 <@Dagmar> It seems the frozen material is there simply to keep the water around so that everywhere you step is a fucking half-inch deep puddle.
01:24 < fie> Dagmar: I tend to prefer the option of giving up and just going around bare foot
01:24 < fie> I'd rather be sick than have soggy shoes!
01:25 <@coil> how about drive a car
01:26 < fie> Yeah, it would probably fit through the sliding doors at the grocery store
01:26 < fie> just park it by all the carts
01:26 < fie> coil: show me how to make awesome music
01:27 <@coil> idk ask #dxm
01:28 <@Dagmar> fie: I elected to tiptoe because my sneakers aren't very waterproof
01:28 <@Dagmar> BArefoot would, I think, be a spectacularly bad idea.
01:28 < fie> no wai
01:28 <@coil> frostbite
01:29 < fie> I have huge holes in my shoes
01:29 <@coil> it would be the last time you would walk on your toes
01:29 < fie> After I lost my shoe laces in vegas they pretty much fell appart
01:29 <@Dagmar> s/on your/with/;
01:29 < fie> coil: that's why you don't stand in the damn snow
01:29 <@Dagmar> Even a couple of brown paper bags and socks would be less dangerous
01:30 < fie> NO SOGGY FEET!
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02:07 < ware> wee
02:09 <@Evilpig> ware:  you like the link?
02:11 < epoxy> later
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02:36 < fie> wtf @ epoxy
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04:25 < ware> Evilpig: whichin
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05:49 <@Evilpig> http://nig.gr
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07:45 <@Shadow404> whats the site you post code on?
07:45 <@Shadow404> or irc snippets?
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07:59  * Lissa yawns
07:59  * Shadow404 passes Lissa a breathe mint and ducks
08:00 < Lissa> hey now...i just brushed and flossed and stuff
08:02 < Lissa> i think i may go to the arcade today and play pinball for a few hours
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08:28 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: if you hadn't asked i could have told you
08:32 <@Shadow404> how would you of known to tell me if i didn't ask?
08:32 <@Shadow404> i found it though
08:35 <@Evilpig> http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/ob/seth1n.png
08:36 <@Evilpig> and it was?
08:38 <@Shadow404> oh wow, so true
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09:23 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: what was the link?
09:23 <@Shadow404> meh
09:24 <@Evilpig> pastebin.ca!
09:24 <@Evilpig> it just hit me
09:24 <@Shadow404> aye
09:25 <@Shadow404> i was having trouble sharing some arduino code with html that in the code from screwing up email formatting
10:12 <@polerin> Shadow404: pastbin.ca pastbin.com, and if you want there are various pastbin's out there for local host
10:12 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: slight misspelling on domain names and you go to a completely different site
10:13 <@Corydon76-dig> pastebin.ca
10:13 <@polerin> what are you doing with arduino?
10:14 <@polerin> thinking about trying to organize an arduino workshop at pn this year
10:15 <@polerin> also, yeah.  pastebin, not pastbin.  working on my netbook with the funky keyboard
10:22 <@Evilpig> http://i47.tinypic.com/346wbhs.jpg   http://www.flashtowerdefence.com/flash/201/Bloons_Tower_Defense_4.html
10:50 <@Shadow404> way to much time on your hands
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10:51 <@Shadow404> polerin: i got the mega for christmas, and right now, working on basics to get up to 802.11 addon so i can initiate code from over wifi
10:52 <@Shadow404> so far, got i/o based events triggered
10:52 <@Shadow404> basically solar panel hooked up, based on voltage levels it turned on a series of light for each range of voltage
10:53 <@nachoguy> 802.11 on the arduino?  neat.  I didn't know they had one
10:53 <@Shadow404> they have a wifi add on
10:53 <@nachoguy> I have an ethernet shield and was looing into the blutooth one
10:54 <@Shadow404> bluetooth would be nice, but i want a web app, that sends simple commands to trigger code on the arduino
10:54 <@Shadow404> eventually gonna have a drink delivery bot
10:54 <@Shadow404> and arduni front end for the spykee robot
10:55 <@Shadow404> *arduino
10:55 <@Shadow404> polerin: pm me your addy and ill send you the code
11:12 <@Evilpig> hungry and there is chinese in the fridge.  but if I wait 45 min I can just get a sammich at home and have that chinese tonight when I come in...
11:13 <@Dolemite> I'm about to nuke some leftover spaghetti & meatballs
11:13 <@Dolemite> let's see if the smell drives you crazier
11:14 <@Evilpig> thx, dick
11:14 <@Dolemite> hey, it's lunch time :P
11:14 <@Shadow404> thats disrepect, he should get fired
11:14 < Todd> I hate people with food at work that smells delicious
11:14 <@Evilpig> no it isn't.  this document I have clearly says lunchtime is from 5am to 7am and no other time is permitted
11:14 < Todd> It makes me want to stab people with a rusty spork.
11:15 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : Only for those on the 12 hour shifts
11:15 <@Dolemite> Also, it doesn't require you to eat at that time.  It just requires you to take a scheduled break.
11:27  * Shadow404 wants to sleep
11:27  * Dolemite lets Shadow404 take a dirt nap
11:27 <@Dolemite> die!!!
11:28 <@Dolemite> Man, that makes me almost miss sdodson's trolling.
11:28 <@Dolemite> Almost.
11:29 <@Shadow404> heh
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12:29 <@nachoguy> mmm, lunch
12:29 <@nachoguy> that sounds good
12:49 <@Dolemite> Hrmm, Bonnaroo is building a good lineup for this year again
12:50 < fall0ut> cross canadian ragweed will be there
12:50 < fall0ut> reason enough to go
12:51 <@Dolemite> I think that's the band, not a type of pot that you can buy
12:52 < fall0ut> yea
12:52 < fall0ut> ccr is <3
12:52 <@Dolemite> CCR shall forever stand for Creedence Clearwater Revival!
12:52 <@Dolemite> Speaking of which, John Fogerty is appearing at Bonnaroo.
12:52 < fall0ut> bonnaroo.com needs help
12:53 <@Dolemite> Ah, I was reading from tennessean.com
12:53 <@Dolemite> bonnaroo.com is certainly more annoying
12:53 < fall0ut> bonnaroo.com is broken
12:55 <@Dolemite> Wonder how outrageously expensive this will be?
12:55 <@Dolemite> http://www.bonnaroo.com/totalaccess/Default.aspx
12:55 < fall0ut> $250/ticket
12:55 < fall0ut> er
12:55 < fall0ut> oh
12:55 < fall0ut> that is fucking insane
12:56 <@Dolemite> yeah, that's what the celebrities do
12:56 <@Dolemite> Brangelina would get that.  I think they can all fit in an 8 person bus.
13:02  * opticron agrees with Dolemite, creedence ftw
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14:18 <@nachoguy> http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-32-guruplug-server-plus.aspx
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14:36 <@Corydon76-dig> nachoguy: website unavailable
15:02 < eryc> you guys going to bonnaroo?
15:02 < eryc> seems like it might be fun
15:02 < eryc> what bands will be there?
15:02  * polerin pokes NotLarry 
15:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Will be even more fun back in Nashville with all the dirty hippies gone
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15:10 <@nachoguy> unavailable? boo
15:10 <@nachoguy> yep, the whole site is down
15:11 <@nachoguy> it's a new sheevaplug, but with wireless, bluetooth, dual gigE, esata and two USB ports
15:11 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: phhht quit hating on me :(
15:11 <@Corydon76-dig> nachoguy: sweet
15:12 < Lissa> heh
15:12 <@nachoguy> $130  taking preorders now, shipping in Apr
15:13 < Lissa> it's cold outside
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15:21 <@Dementia> Don't get me started on how cold it is. We're looking at 9-12" of snow by tomorrow.
15:21 <@Dagmar> At least you're getting advance warning
15:21 <@Shadow404> oh, link that video
15:22 <@Dementia> which?
15:23 <@Shadow404> the one you posted on fb
15:23 <@Dementia> There was 2, the meteorologist, and the muppet one
15:24 <@Shadow404> meteorologist
15:24 <@Shadow404> i'd link it, but vnc doesnt let me copy from win to linux
15:25 <@Dementia> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpxiCxO5k0g
15:25 <@Shadow404> thats the one
15:25 <@Shadow404> heh, i lawled
15:26 <@Dementia> This one's good too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAtBki0PsC0
15:26 <@Dagmar> rofl
15:28 < eryc> Corydon76-dig: dirty hippies dont live in nashville
15:28 < eryc> also, last year fanfair was the same week
15:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> eryc: dirty hookers on the other hand...
15:39 <@Shadow404> heh, just look at the area the pn hotel is in
15:44 <@Corydon76-dig> I've met a few dirty hippies who reside in Nashville, actually...
15:45 < eryc> like Peaches1984
15:45 <@Shadow404> ware count?
15:45 <@Corydon76-dig> I could never be a dirty hippie; I believe in deodorant too much
15:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Nah, Peaches wears deodorant, too
15:45 < eryc> oh wait i thought you said hookers
15:45 <@Shadow404> ware has that stench?
16:07 < ware> ?
16:08 <@Shadow404> deoderant is a foreign substance to you, isnt it?
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16:10 <@Shadow404> anyone know where i can get used bicycle tires and intertubes from?
16:12 <@Shadow404> need it for a small catapult im working on using recycled parts
16:14 <@polerin> never used those, made mine from rope
16:22 < ware> whats this board of directors talk about?
16:22 < ware> re: meeting minutes
16:23 < ware> changing the way people get voted to positions?
16:23 < eryc> ya switching to electronic voting machines made by diebold
16:24 < eryc> with modems and default passwords
16:26 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: giving the organization more longevity
16:27 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: and making the president more accountable for actions and conflicts of interest
16:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Basically, the board will be in charge of stuff that sticks around longer than a single year
16:28 <@Corydon76-dig> i.e. mailbox, subscriptions, storage area, domain names, etc.
16:30 <@Shadow404> president accountable +1
16:31 < eryc> i am filing articles of impeachment
16:31 < eryc> all in favor say aye
16:31 <@Corydon76-dig> It's not part of the bylaws yet
16:31  * eryc teabags the president
16:31 <@Corydon76-dig> It's something being worked on, and we'll present it when it gets closer to being ready
16:32 < eryc> Corydon76-dig: when did you guys get 501c3?
16:32 <@Shadow404> aye
16:32 <@Corydon76-dig> We had a determination in August 2006
16:32 < eryc> nice
16:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Filed in June 2006
16:33 < eryc> we're in that process now
16:33 <@Corydon76-dig> In what state?
16:33 < eryc> no state
16:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Where is the org incorporated?
16:33 < eryc> the district
16:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah, no idea what special laws they have there
16:34 < eryc> i'm not really involved so i dont know either
16:34 <@Shadow404> yeah, so is freesideatl
16:34 <@Shadow404> filing paperwork now
16:34 <@Corydon76-dig> In TN, we're automatically exempt from sales/use tax.  In AL, orgs have to be written specifically into the law
16:35 < eryc> but i guess since we're federal we can create a unicameral legislature and accept representatives from state hacker orgs :P
16:35 <@Corydon76-dig> So even in those 2 states, there's a massive difference in law as to what you can avoid
16:36 < eryc> we'll also working on creating a new Dept of Hacker Security to cooridinate better information sharing among agencies
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16:37 < eryc> we'll send you instructions on how to backdoor your email systems in a few weeks
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16:40 < daswork> I've never bought an SSL certificate before.
16:41 < daswork> What's the cheapest way of getting one that will be accepted by IE8/vista natively?
16:43 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure "cheapest" figures into that
16:44 <@opticron> depends on what kind of cert
16:44 < daswork> What do you mean?
16:44 <@opticron> well, they generally charge more for wildcard domain certs
16:45 <@opticron> now there's that stupid thing where the IE8 bar has different colors for different "levels" of security
16:45 <@opticron> they charge extra for that, whatever it is
16:46 <@opticron> daswork, is this a generic single domain website cert?
16:46 < daswork> I presume that wildcard covers *.example.net, where a non-wildcard cert covers only subdomain.example.net
16:46 <@opticron> right
16:46 < daswork> opticron: Yep.
16:46 < eryc> i paid like $10 for my cert
16:46 < eryc> accepted by all browsers
16:46 < daswork> IE8 is fucking with a client's Outlook Web Access.
16:46 < daswork> eryc: Wildcard or non-wildcard?
16:47 < eryc> er $14
16:47 < eryc> its $113 for *
16:47 < eryc> https://entic.net/SSL
16:47 <@opticron> eryc, and accepted on vista/IE8?
16:48 < eryc> sure whatever
16:49 < eryc> rapidssl will give you a demo cert to test
16:51 <@opticron> that could be worth $14
16:52 < daswork> Hmmm.
16:53 < eryc> order processes in about 10mins
16:54 < eryc> get a VPS or thin clien too while you're at it
16:54 < daswork> eryc: What do you mean?
16:54 < daswork> And how long does the cert last?
16:55 < eryc> what
16:55 < eryc> do people really pay you
16:55 < daswork> I don't normally do SSL certs.
16:55 < eryc> or read apparently
16:56 < daswork> I know certificates can be set up to expire after an arbitrary period of time.
16:56 < eryc> READ THE FUCKING WEBPAGE
16:56 < daswork> Oh, you posted a link.
16:56 < eryc> ya
16:57 < daswork> My bad, I'm reading this while on the phone.
16:58  * opticron points brimstone at the entic link
16:58 <@opticron> if you need ssl certs, anyway
16:59 < daswork> I'll have to look at the demo cert a little later.
16:59 < eryc> i've been very happy as an entic.net customer
16:59 < eryc> and i get all my domains from joker.com
16:59 < daswork> I think I'm going to have to start doing certs on the OWA sites.
17:00  * daswork just needs to sell this idea to the power-that-be.
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17:04 < daswork> Okay, heading home./
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17:18 <@Dagmar> They have fair use until the first asshole label decides to talk to a lawyer about it
17:19 <@brimstone> opticron: herm
17:55 < aestetix> vagina
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18:25 <@sdodson> Dolemite: when did i troll?
18:25 <@sdodson> Dolemite: I think you confusing me always being right with "trolling"
18:27 < ware> ^
18:27 < ware> where'd my ops go
18:28 <@sdodson> ware: Corydon76-dig?
18:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: so you're trolling using trolling as a subject to troll with... hmm...
18:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> thats deep
18:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'm going to the gym
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18:38 <@nachoguy> in 26 minutes?
18:40 <@sdodson> nachoguy: 26 minutes?
18:45 <@nachoguy> it's a meme
18:46 <@nachoguy> http://gawker.com/309684/nightmare-online-dater-john-fitzgerald-page-is-the-worst-person-in-the-world
18:48 <@sdodson> i don't get memes I'm too old I guess
18:50 <@brimstone> i want to be a stand-in for bad movies
18:52 <@polerin> sdodson: nah, you've been know to troll at times
19:00 <@nachoguy> brimstone, like the guy that gets punched in a western but forgets to fall down?
19:01 <@nachoguy> I guess that's more of an extra
19:21 < ware> HEY
19:21 < ware> did you hear, ima be working again!
19:36 < Todd> mcdonalds halted their hiring freeze?
19:41 <@Dagmar> Hell yes I got it working
19:41 <@Dagmar> MythWeb streaming is back baybee
19:41 <@Dagmar> You can even seek the fucking files now
19:42 <@Dagmar> Now to take um, about a million print STDERR "FUCKINGDEBUG: freetext" statements out of the code
20:01 <@aestetix> http://sfappeal.com/culture/2010/02/video-call-the-mayor-day.php
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20:50 <@Dagmar> I fix0rd it http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8055
21:00 < eryc> thar i fied it
21:03 <@Dagmar> You know the sad fucking thing is that while chasing down my own bug I found a third bug in the original code I'd never noticed before.
21:04 <@Dagmar> Two lines of diff could have mde it work again, but fuck it.  This code is actually commented now
21:08 <@Dagmar> To answer my own question from yesterday, apparently if you even THINK about attempting to use CGI.pm /:push -nph/ after it's already been invoked once, Apache will om nom nom all your rams
21:08 <@Dagmar> Like, _immediately_
21:23 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Btw, looked at Comodor.
21:23 <@dasunt> I couldn't find the whitelist in the virus scanner.  There seems to be some sort of whitelist in the firewall though.
21:24 <@Dagmar> The whitelist isn't the scanner, it's the memory resident part
21:24 <@Dagmar> If it's running with that on, you'll be seeing options for it like paranoid mode, training mode, etc but most importantly, it'll bother the crap out of you the next time you try to do anything administratory
21:25 <@Dagmar> That functionality may or may not be available under win7-64 yet but it's protected my 32-bit XP install for ages
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22:26 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GydyA_cVJNA
22:28 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Hmmmm, do you have a screenshot of the screen where I enable it?
22:29 <@Dagmar> No idea.  Honestly every time I've installed the virus scanner that's been it's default behaviour
22:29 <@Dagmar> Try and install something trivial like a putty update
22:38 <@dasunt> Okay.
22:44 < eryc> did you check out my video
22:51 <@dasunt> No.
22:51 <@dasunt> Youtube hates this computer.
22:51 <@dasunt> Dunno why.
22:51 < fie> stab it
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