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00:45 <@coil> .
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09:23 < Todd> I hate farting in cubeland.
09:24 < Todd> ~oh jesus that stinks... ok act normal. continue typing... ok it's fading.~
09:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> then why not go to the bathroom ahead of time?
09:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> bbiaf
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09:39 < Todd> what? planned farts? WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY YOU SPEAK OF SIR?!
10:15 <@m0j0-j0j0> Todd: need to catch up with you at some point to talk IRL
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10:15 < Todd> ok
10:15 < Todd> shall I call you on my lunch break?
10:18 <@m0j0-j0j0> you can, but I was thinking more like.. doing lunch together or going to the gym or something
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10:19 <@m0j0-j0j0> want to be otr
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10:20 <@rattle> Does anyone know if skydog is going to be at Shmoo?
10:24 <@m0j0-j0j0> rattle: skydog as in the "I'm done with irc" 449 days ago skydog?
10:25 <@m0j0-j0j0> I don't know if he's going to Shmoo, but if he comes into #se2600 I'll be sure and ask.
10:35 <@rattle> The reason I ask, is I figure some of you people might see each other in meatspace..
10:51 <@Corydon76-lap> rattle: I believe he's planning on being there
10:53 <@Corydon76-lap> He's not actually done with IRC; he just decided to leave this channel, because we apparently argue too much for his tastes
10:55 < Shadow404> im done with this channel
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10:55 < Shadow404> ok, finished being done, im back now
10:55 <@opticron> awww...he came back
11:07 < Shadow404> and aww, channel is still dead
11:07 < Shadow404> woohoo
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11:58 <@rhia> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=hubble-zooms-in-on-space-crash-2010-02   Romulan Bird of Prey? ;)
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12:34 <@Dagmar> Sure looks it
12:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> rhia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrosmash
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12:59 < Shadow404> channel is still dead
12:59 < tzanger> natch
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13:32 <@nachoguy> ?
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13:40 < Todd> m0j0-j0j0: it's so ugly it doesn't even get a screenshot?
13:40 < Todd> jeebus
13:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> g-bus
13:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> hey... intellevision was a 16bit system
13:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> years before NES
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14:01 < Todd> m0j0-j0j0: I called. Can't call back until 6:30ish
14:02 <@m0j0-j0j0> Todd: was in a meeting
14:02 <@m0j0-j0j0> Todd: I shouldn't be in a meeting about 6:30 (with any luck)
14:22 <@mog> m0j0-j0j0, intellivision could only draw 16 colors where as nintendo could do 53
14:22 <@mog> also nintendo nes had more more scan lines
14:25 <@m0j0-j0j0> but they both had 16bit processors and everyone always sticks the intellevision in the same category as the atari2600 which was 8bit and say that the NES was the first 16bit gaming system... which it wasn't.
14:26 <@m0j0-j0j0> I think the atari4800 came out before NES and I think it might have been 16bit too
14:26 <@m0j0-j0j0> grrr 5200 that is
14:30 < Todd> wut? you guys are old
14:30 < Todd> I'm nearing 30 and don't remember this shit.
14:31 < Todd> I remember having an NES before I was knee high to a grass hopper
14:31 < Todd> may have had an atari for a short period prior to that
14:31 <@Corydon76-lap> m0j0-j0j0: depends upon what you mean by "16-bit".  Do you mean register width or address bus width, because they are not always the same.
14:32 < eryc> dont try to confuse the issue
14:32 < eryc> intellivision was clearly the superior technology
14:32 <@Corydon76-lap> x86 has spoiled a lot of people, because register width is the same as address bus width
14:32 <@m0j0-j0j0> Todd: no, what makes me old would be an answer like: most people only had black and white TVs so 16 colors was more than you needed.
14:33 <@Corydon76-lap> m0j0-j0j0: even in those days, color TVs were ubiquitous.  Memory was expensive, though, so more than 16 colors was a luxury most could not afford
14:34 <@Corydon76-lap> and BTW... NES was an 8-bit system, in that registers were 8-bits apiece
14:34 <@Corydon76-lap> SNES was a 16-bit system, with a 24-bit address bus
14:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-lap: I don't think I had a color tv until after I didn't have my intellivision anymore
14:35 < eryc> yea food stamps didnt cover color tvs back then
14:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-lap: true... sorry... ment SNES
14:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> meant
14:35 <@Corydon76-lap> m0j0-j0j0: most people in those days wanted to hook up their computers to their TVs, but the monochrome monitors had better resolution
14:35 < eryc> you poor sonovabitch
14:36 <@Corydon76-lap> and even if you had a color monitor, the computer typically could not support a full range of color, because of the memory situation
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14:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> they should have stopped at CGA anyway
14:37 < Todd> oh god.. next he's going to bust out the "everyone should be forced to code in C" comments
14:38 < Todd> or beaten with a cane pole
14:38 <@m0j0-j0j0> Todd: well.. C or Asm
14:38 <@Dagmar> I'll settle for just "everyone should comment their fucking code"
14:38 < eryc> yea quit newbing the place up and learn C
14:38 <@Dagmar> ...with a side order of "people who say their code is self-documenting are fucking liars"
14:38 <@Corydon76-lap> Todd: nah, that was before the days of C on personal computers.  You used BASIC and liked it!
14:38 <@Corydon76-lap> or if you were rich, you used Pascal
14:39 <@Corydon76-lap> or if you were a loony, Logo
14:39 < eryc> i only comment the complex parts of my code
14:39 < eryc> and there i put:
14:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> LOGO!!
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14:39 < Todd> the warehouse I worked at for a while was still ran by this application that the lead IT engineer wrote is pascal
14:39 < eryc> # Hold on to your hat, this is about to get rough!
14:39 < Todd> I worked there last year
14:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> why is the turtle blinking!
14:40 < Todd> he was still there. I'm assuming when he retires that they're fucked, but I could be wrong.
14:40 < eryc> sometimes i comment in german just for sport
14:40 < eryc> but i add extra letters so google translate fails
14:40 < Todd> you guys ever read the old netscape code comments? that was entertaining
14:41 <@Corydon76-lap> and protected memory?  Pah!  Nobody runs more than a single application on a computer at a time, anyway
14:41 <@m0j0-j0j0> my code used to be self documenting but I got in trouble because one of the users say the source
14:41 < Todd> I forget where I read that.
14:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> the one that I got in trouble for was
14:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> sub punish_the_user_for_being_a_dumbass()
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14:44 <@mog> m0j0-j0j0, bit count refers to graphics processor not system one in most counts, the intellivision had 8bit video processor
14:47 < Todd> http://moblog.net/media/d/i/s/distinctlyaverage/mmmmm-messy.jpg
14:47 < Todd> "yeah our network admin just quit one day. we hadn't been back here in a while. ummm, good luck!"
14:47 <@m0j0-j0j0> wikipedia: Intellivision can be considered the first 16-bit game console, as the registers in the microprocessor, where the mathematical logic is processed, are 16 bits wide. It can however be considered a 10-bit system because the CPU's instruction set and game cartridges are 10 bits wide.
14:52 < Todd> http://tier1ip.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Cat5eCabling-DataCenter.jpg
14:52 < Todd> ahhh. that's damn sexy
14:52 <@mog> mhmm
14:59 <@nachoguy> I agree
14:59 <@nachoguy> though it doesn't look like the cables are labeled at both ends
15:00 <@Dagmar> That's the backside of a punchdown panel, and the bundles probably were marked when they were put in
15:00 <@nachoguy> True
15:00 <@nachoguy> it's been handy a few times though
15:01 <@nachoguy> then again sane places probably have the same marking on the wall jack, patch panel, and cable
15:01 <@nachoguy> instead of three different numbers that you need to correlate
15:09 < Todd> unless you hire some of the contractors I've met that do that shit
15:09 < Todd> I ran the wire. I bundled it up. Labels? Who said I needed to label them?
15:11 < Todd> my old boss's media rack looks like a jungle with narry a label
15:11 < Todd> one guy gave him a piece of paper with chicken scratch on it that made no sense
15:11 < eryc> what about a rack?
15:11 < Todd> you got that shit on highlight?
15:11 < eryc> do you really need labels?
15:12 < Todd> you do need to know what room the port on the patch bay goes to
15:12 < eryc> (o)(o)
15:12 < Todd> oh wait that was a joke
15:12 < Todd> meh.. does not compute
15:12 < eryc> you can count on me to say something rude and sarcastic
15:13 < Todd> s/me/anyone on irc/
15:17 < sung> shut your piehole, cuntwaffle.
15:17 < sung> *coughs*
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17:57 <@Coil_> Yo
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