--- Log opened Tue Jan 26 00:00:06 2010 00:04 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 00:19 -!- CRasH180 [n=crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:32 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 00:32 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:40 -!- sasquatc4 [i=sasquatc@c-76-25-180-64.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 00:56 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 00:58 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:17 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:17 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 01:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o juice] by ChanServ 01:48 < Evilpig_> interesting.... http://www.kickasstorrents.com/crushed-2009-dvdrip-xvid-vomit-t3423173.html 02:31 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 02:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 02:36 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:37 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 02:52 -!- Peaches1984 [i=silver@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 03:30 -!- You're now known as Evilpig 03:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 04:29 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["leaving"] 04:55 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:55 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 05:09 < xtort-> woot off 05:18 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:18 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 05:32 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:32 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 05:33 -!- Shadow404 [i=shadow40@static-ip-62-75-255-125.inaddr.server4you.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:01 <@Evilpig> it's fuckin' cold outside! 07:01 <@Evilpig> I should have brought my hat and gloves in 07:45 < fall0ut> fuck weather. 08:28 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3XxBzoquhA#t=2m3s 08:44 -!- Drag0n` [n=nunya@199.180.3.25] has joined #se2600 08:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Drag0n`] by ChanServ 08:46 <@sdodson> One of our techs was helping a customer, as he was driving... as he was getting pulled over by the police. 08:47 <@sdodson> he = the customer 08:49 <@Drag0n`> not surprising, probably wanted to keep the tech on the phone to finish when the stop was over too 08:49 <@Drag0n`> "road laws dont apply to me, im special" 09:09 <@sdodson> the officer let him off with a warning 09:34 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=m0j0-j0j@vnet503-hosoc.mcclatchyinteractive.com] has joined #se2600 09:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o m0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 09:41 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:44 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 10:00 -!- Peaches1984 [n=Peaches1@bna-69-171-173-115.evdo.leapwireless.net] has joined #se2600 10:06 <@nachoguy> mronin 10:08 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has joined #se2600 10:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 11:11 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:18 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 13:25 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:13 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 14:26 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 14:32 -!- Venom_X is now known as Venom_lnch 14:34 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:41 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has joined #se2600 14:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 14:44 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:45 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 14:52 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 14:52 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:53 * nachoguy shakes his fist in the general direction of HSV 14:54 <@opticron> what up? 14:54 * opticron blocks nachoguy's fists of fury with a large panda 14:54 <@nachoguy> oh, I've got a ticket open with Digium. I bought a card. It's a bit fucked up, the vendor refuses to take it back, claims that all returns have to be direct to Digium. 14:55 <@nachoguy> so I'm going rounds with someone there. The card looks physically damaged (probably a manufacturing defect). I had to take a picture of the card and send it in. 14:55 <@nachoguy> apparently I don't have a good enough camera 14:56 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 14:56 <@opticron> link? 14:56 <@opticron> or, better, what's messed up with it? 14:57 <@nachoguy> I got a good leacture on why I should never use debian, and always install from source on every machine for my troubles 14:57 <@opticron> erm...what? 14:57 <@opticron> debian ftw 14:57 <@opticron> i use it all the time 14:57 <@opticron> at work, even 14:57 <@nachoguy> basically one of the diagnotic leds doesn't light. Looks like someone hand soldered it 14:57 <@opticron> eww 14:57 <@nachoguy> yeah, we've got 50+ servers here running asterisk. we did the by source route. that blows for keeping things "standard" 14:58 <@opticron> I guess the RMA process has changed considerably since I was in tech support 15:00 <@nachoguy> The vender was telling me I'd need to set up a server, put the card in it, give them remote access before I could RMA it. At least I haven't gone down that road yet. I don't have that much time to burn 15:00 <@nachoguy> s/vender/reseller/ 15:00 <@opticron> it doesn't even have to be a server 15:01 <@opticron> just something running linux they can poke at 15:01 <@opticron> but yeah, setting that up can take too long 15:01 <@nachoguy> yeah, still for a manufacturing defect, that's wway overkill 15:02 <@opticron> we used to RMA the card immediately for stuff like that 15:02 <@nachoguy> also getting approval to open the firewall to an outside vendor sucks 15:02 <@opticron> you could setup some kind of reverse ssh 15:02 <@nachoguy> I somehow also got stuck with a spanish speaking rep (according to email sig). 15:02 <@opticron> denis? 15:02 <@nachoguy> I'm not knocking the process directly, I'm just saying that it doesn't seem to apply 15:03 <@opticron> some people can't not follow the "process" 15:03 * nachoguy taps his nose 15:07 -!- Venom_lnch [n=pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:09 <@nachoguy> meh, I'll give it until tomorrow and call back in 15:11 <@opticron> if you still have problems, i'll see if i can prod them for you 15:12 <@nachoguy> appreciate it 15:13 <@nachoguy> I'd rather not buck the system or get someone in trouble over it. It just seems a tad over complicated and slow. 15:13 <@opticron> manufacturing defects shouldn't take this long to deal with 15:13 <@nachoguy> it makes sense if there were some lingering small issue, but this is fairly blatent 15:13 <@nachoguy> yeah 15:14 <@opticron> especially when it's obvious to a technical person 15:14 <@nachoguy> I'll have to find a way to fed-ex you a beer 15:14 -!- fie_ug [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:14 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-108-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:15 <@opticron> heh, i just don't want our customers getting unnecessarily hassled 15:15 <@nachoguy> hey, that's what makes a business 15:15 <@opticron> i usually tried to make the experience as pleasant as possible so the customers didn't get angry or frustrated 15:15 <@nachoguy> you always want to deal with the vendors that have your back 15:16 <@opticron> yep 15:21 <@opticron> can i get a link to the pic? 15:22 <@nachoguy> I can email it if you like 15:23 <@nachoguy> it's not posted anywhere 15:23 <@nachoguy> one sec 15:25 <@nachoguy> http://imgur.com/eeMLe 15:26 <@nachoguy> bottom left solder points 15:26 <@opticron> the pic isn't great, but it definitely looks fucked up 15:26 <@opticron> it's obvious that SOMETHING is wrong 15:27 <@nachoguy> yeah, well, that's the best camera we've got in the office 15:27 <@nachoguy> possibly better than what I've got at home 15:27 <@opticron> damnit tech support.... 15:28 < fall0ut> 50 boxes running asterisk? 15:28 <@nachoguy> hey, they're holding te front lines, I respect that 15:28 <@nachoguy> fall0ut, approx. 15:28 < fall0ut> why in gods name would you do that? 15:28 <@nachoguy> though that may go up by 5-10 in the next quarter 15:29 <@nachoguy> fall0ut, it works well 15:29 <@nachoguy> what should I do instead 15:29 < fall0ut> what're you doing with the boxes? 15:29 < fall0ut> PRI orig/term? 15:30 <@opticron> i would guess a pbx or two for each office location 15:30 <@opticron> i think we run 3+ internally at digium as our phone system 15:30 <@nachoguy> all sorts of stuff. Two large call centers, lots of PRI termination, some special purpose ones for a dialer system (we dial our customers for our agents (prevents misdials)) 15:31 <@opticron> hehe 15:31 <@nachoguy> a decent amount of redundant gear 15:31 <@nachoguy> we can lose all sorts of shit and still stay functional 15:31 <@opticron> that's the best kind of shit...(redundant) 15:32 <@nachoguy> but our callcenter is our business. They're down, we don't make money 15:35 < fall0ut> that much asterisk makes me cringe 15:49 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 15:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 15:55 <@nachoguy> fall0ut, what do you use instead? 15:56 < fall0ut> we don't do callcenter stuff so it's not a fair comparison I guess 15:56 < fall0ut> we do carrier voice :P 15:57 <@nachoguy> so sip to tdm conversion? 15:57 < fall0ut> we do some of that 15:57 < fall0ut> mainly lots of ds3s of tdm -> tdm 15:58 <@nachoguy> so people call in and you redirect it back out to a different number? 15:59 < fall0ut> no 15:59 < fall0ut> we handle voice in between multiple carriers 15:59 <@nachoguy> like a peering point? 15:59 < fall0ut> company A needs to reach Global Crossing, they send call to us with proper carrier code, we hand to gblx 16:00 < fall0ut> Global needs to reach company A, they hand us call, we send to company A 16:00 < fall0ut> kinda 16:00 < fall0ut> except we bill the carriers for it 16:01 < fall0ut> I've done all sorts of other shit, too... 16:03 <@nachoguy> neat 16:21 -!- Drag0n` [n=nunya@199.180.3.25] has quit ["connection reset by year, NTPDate strikes again!!!!"] 16:52 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @Dagmar 16:52 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@c-98-193-180-167.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #SE2600 16:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 17:23 -!- Cynefrid_ [n=whee@24-107-64-211.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:24 -!- Cynefrid [n=whee@24-107-64-211.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 17:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Cynefrid] by ChanServ 17:24 -!- Cynefrid [n=whee@24-107-64-211.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:25 -!- Cynefrid [n=whee@24-107-64-211.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 17:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Cynefrid] by ChanServ 17:54 -!- polerin [n=erin@c-98-193-146-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o polerin] by ChanServ 19:03 -!- Peaches1984 [n=Peaches1@bna-69-171-173-115.evdo.leapwireless.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20:06 -!- Peaches1984 [i=mauve@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:17 <@Dagmar> Well, that was fun and now it's over. 20:18 <@Dagmar> I'm done with dealing with iamlindoro (one of the MythTV people) until he comes to his senses. 20:18 <@Dagmar> I was trying to move the freaking stuff about the HD Fury (an HDCP countermeasure) out of the HD PVR page and to it's own page as a matter of improving information organization last night and got an ass chewing for it. 20:19 <@Dagmar> I questioned it, and got more threats and bullshit. 20:19 <@Dagmar> Fuck it. 20:19 <@Dagmar> If some asshole law firm wants to tear into them or their users over that later, I'm not going to have any part of it. 20:20 <@Dagmar> Break the fucking law or don't but for god's sake don't stick your head up your ass about it and ignore the issue entirely 21:56 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@c-68-48-8-21.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o hobbes615] by ChanServ 22:05 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has quit [] 22:27 < tzanger> heh 22:28 < tzanger> one of my projects is an HDMI to mpeg4 capture card (FPGA based) using a commercial HDMI receiver with the keys in it already 22:46 <@ShadowHntr> advantageous 22:59 < tzanger> indeed 22:59 < tzanger> I have to make my company look like we'd buy thousands of the chips though 23:01 <@ShadowHntr> good luck :P 23:03 <@sasquatc4> you cant just get a few samples? 23:06 <@ShadowHntr> yeah who makes those chips 23:10 <@sasquatc4> cause i see analog devices makes a bunch of hdmi receiver chips, gotta call em for samples tho 23:19 -!- CRasH180 [n=crash180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 23:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 23:28 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@c-68-48-8-21.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:28 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 23:37 <@Dagmar> Tzanger: Hopefully you can beat the price point on a Hauppauge HD PVR and an HD Fury2 --- Log closed Wed Jan 27 00:00:06 2010