--- Log opened Sat Jan 09 00:00:55 2010 00:03 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:06 -!- coil [i=stfu@unaffiliated/coil] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:13 -!- coil [i=stfu@unaffiliated/coil] has joined #se2600 00:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o coil] by ChanServ 01:24 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-37-17.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 02:01 -!- R3d2Dawn1 [n=R3d2Dawn@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has joined #se2600 02:18 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:34 -!- NotLarry [n=NotLarry@c-69-245-11-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:09 -!- NotLarry [n=NotLarry@c-69-245-11-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 06:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 06:09 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: you there? 06:09 <@Evilpig> yeah 06:12 <@Evilpig> someone must have rolled something shiny in front of him the second he hit enter 06:17 <@NotLarry> what, huh? 08:15 <@Evilpig> http://wilpig.org/temp/rock.jpg 09:35 -!- RJH00_Army [n=RJH00_iP@195.226.234.34] has joined #se2600 09:36 -!- RJH00_Army [n=RJH00_iP@195.226.234.34] has quit [Client Quit] 09:41 < R3d2Dawn1> does anyone read the dslreports website? Apparently in Santa Fe residence are trying to get Wi-FI hotspots banned since it irritates their electromagnetic allergies. :) 09:42 < R3d2Dawn1> Another resident, related to the above, sued his neighbor for refusing to turn off their cellpone and Wi-Fi hotspot. 09:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Good luck on that. First, the FCC has jurisdiction, and second, you need to be able to prove that the radiation has harmful effects. 10:17 < R3d2Dawn1> I have read somewhere that the amount of radiation that it does produce helps with preventing certain diseases 10:18 < xtort-> i read that article about the crazies 10:18 < R3d2Dawn1> So what do you tihnk of about the new pay structure for cable that may be coming our way. Wher you pay per GB 10:18 < xtort-> you get more energy absorbed into your body by walking through a sunbeam indoors 10:20 < xtort-> if that was my neighbor, i'd pull the door off a microwave oven, bypass the safety, and point it at their house 10:20 < R3d2Dawn1> A cable company in Canada called Rogers Cable charges their customers that way 10:21 -!- Peaches1984 [i=three@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:21 < R3d2Dawn1> Bascially there low rate is 500kbps tier with 2GN monthly cap for $26, additionaly usage is $5/GB 10:21 < R3d2Dawn1> oops, 2GB monthly cap for $26 10:22 <@Corydon76-dig> It was inevitable 10:23 <@Corydon76-dig> After driving all the small ISPs out of business by offering flat-rate Internet, they're moving back to a model which guarantees every customer earns them a profit 10:23 < R3d2Dawn1> there higher end is 10Mbps tier with 60GB monthly cap for $47/month, additional is $2/GB 10:23 < R3d2Dawn1> Yeah, apparently AT&T in a few areas is already using this method 10:24 <@Corydon76-dig> It's the same model, incidentally, as they use for bulk data service 10:24 < R3d2Dawn1> Time Warner attempted and failed due to backlash from consumers 10:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Pah! Consumers don't have a choice. They backed off only because it was bad PR 10:27 <@Corydon76-dig> They'll reintroduce it for all new accounts, grandfather in existing bulk rate, but cap them, and encourage their customer base to move to the new pricing model... by making sure customers cannot switch back... 10:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Once they get the old model down to a level that cannot create a PR nightmare, they'll tell all of them that they're discontinuing their service for "excessive" use, but tell them they can continue service if they switch. Given the lack of options, the remaining holdouts will switch. 10:30 < R3d2Dawn1> What consumers need to do is protest/strick and stop using internet to prevent such things from happening. Not to mention consumers need to do the same with some other areas like Airlines. 10:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Stopping using the service is exactly what the cable providers want -- to ensure that every consumer is a profit 10:31 < R3d2Dawn1> So consumers do have a choice, but it is unlikely it will happen. To much greed 10:31 <@Corydon76-dig> You cannot win against a duopoly 10:32 <@Corydon76-dig> The market conditions are essentially that of a monopoly 10:38 < R3d2Dawn1> I meant they should discontinue there service is what I mean by stop using internet 10:40 <@Corydon76-dig> That's not likely, either. You might as well as someone to discontinue their water service 10:42 -!- CRasH180 [n=kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 10:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 10:44 < R3d2Dawn1> Thats why i said it would never happen. to much greed and glutney to do that 10:50 < R3d2Dawn1> Things like this really makes me want to strive to create a business to bring down this conglomerates 10:50 < R3d2Dawn1> Of course I would also need my own private army to proctect me from assasination 10:52 <@Corydon76-dig> The only way you can bring down a conglomerate, effectively, is to convince people to elect Congresscritters who will change the laws to prohibit organizations of their size 10:52 < R3d2Dawn1> One way to solve the issue is to create a massive electromagnetic shockwave that would shut down every major market area 10:56 <@Corydon76-dig> That's a revolution, not a solution 10:56 < R3d2Dawn1> I know 10:57 < R3d2Dawn1> So if it ever happens, I did not do it. :) 11:12 -!- Peaches1984 [i=three@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 11:39 -!- Peaches1984 [i=nine@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:07 -!- Peaches1984 [i=nine@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 12:15 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: wake up. 12:49 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #SE2600 12:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 13:38 -!- CRasH180 [n=kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit ["leaving"] 14:51 -!- Peaches1984 [i=six@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:03 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 15:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 15:08 -!- Peaches1984 [i=six@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 15:08 < R3d2Dawn1> Corydon, with that payment structure it would hender users who file share! 15:41 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["leaving"] 17:08 -!- sdodson [n=sdodson@serenity.ninjr.org] has joined #se2600 17:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 17:08 <@sdodson> ohhai thar 17:32 -!- scort [i=helldive@80.163.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 17:33 -!- scort is now known as Guest99825 18:29 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 18:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 18:37 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [] 19:02 -!- CustomEarl [i=noident@castrovalva.Ivy.NET] has joined #se2600 19:49 -!- R3d2Dawn1 [n=R3d2Dawn@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has left #se2600 ["Leaving."] 20:42 -!- Peaches1984 [i=black@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:52 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 20:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 21:12 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-164-235.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 21:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 21:51 -!- CustomEarl [i=noident@castrovalva.Ivy.NET] has left #se2600 [] 21:52 -!- CustomEarl [i=noident@castrovalva.Ivy.NET] has joined #se2600 22:03 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-164-235.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:41 -!- Guest99825 [i=helldive@80.163.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 23:06 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@pool-74-96-38-233.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:53 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["leaving"] --- Log closed Sun Jan 10 00:00:55 2010