--- Log opened Fri Jan 08 00:00:55 2010 00:57 <@rhia> coil: ++ for that observation above 01:21 * ware hops in rhia's lap 01:58 -!- unixfg_ [n=ryan@c-75-66-111-159.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 02:00 -!- Peaches1984 [i=four@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 02:20 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit ["knives to sharpen"] 02:20 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #SE2600 02:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 03:37 <@Evilpig> I totally don't feel like working. bah 07:34 < Shadow404> yeah me either 07:34 < Shadow404> i made it to work though in the icy weather 07:34 < eryc> i already did my tps report 07:34 < Shadow404> only fish tailed once hitting a bridge before an uphill bit 08:15 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@pool-74-96-38-233.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 08:19 -!- Dolemite [n=scott@99-2-141-173.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 08:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 08:20 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:31 < xtort-> hi 08:36 -!- Drag0n` [n=nunya@199.180.3.25] has joined #se2600 08:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Drag0n`] by ChanServ 08:47 -!- Peaches1984 [n=Peaches1@bna-69-171-173-160.evdo.leapwireless.net] has joined #se2600 09:39 < eryc> http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/01/04/23297.htm 09:41 < Shadow404> sweet, sue that court into eternity 09:41 < Shadow404> thats bs 09:45 <@opticron> at least he's beating the fuck out of them 09:54 <@nachoguy> mr0nin Dolemite 09:55 < eryc> its nachoday 09:57 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 10:03 <@nachoguy> how goes it? 10:05 < aestetix> Busy. 10:05 < aestetix> You all missed out. You should have come to Berlin. 10:07 < eryc> how much did that trip cost you 10:08 * aestetix shrugs 10:58 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 10:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 11:01 < aestetix> Ok. 11:01 < aestetix> For reference, when you outsource code development 11:01 <@nachoguy> ? 11:02 < aestetix> Especially when you outsource it to India 11:02 < aestetix> When you have 12 contacts.... make sure that more than one of them is a developer 11:03 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #se2600 11:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 11:39 <@nachoguy> did your dev go awol? 12:11 < eryc> http://notalwaysright.com/elixirs-of-everlasting-life-are-on-aisle-5/3741 12:19 <@Drag0n`> got to love bad code and having fun with skewed statistics 12:20 <@Drag0n`> "well, we seem to have a small market share in the 600-700 year old comunity" 12:20 <@Drag0n`> "so, how is old Mathusila doing these days?" 12:29 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=m0j0-j0j@vnet503-hosoc.mcclatchyinteractive.com] has joined #se2600 12:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o m0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 12:52 -!- rhia [n=rhia@pool-173-74-76-231.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:53 -!- rhia [n=rhia@pool-173-74-76-231.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 12:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rhia] by ChanServ 13:03 -!- coil is now known as Husky 13:10 * eryc hops in rhia's lap 13:10 * Drag0n` tosses eryc back in the corner 13:13 -!- unixfg [n=ryan@ghruaim.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:05 <@Evilpig> thx for clearing my seat there Drag0n` 14:05 <@Drag0n`> i still have the pig skewer for your roasting set aside 14:05 <@Evilpig> I feel so special 14:06 <@Dementia> Pig roast! Pig roast! 14:06 <@Drag0n`> todays special, half price with a side of slaw 14:06 <@Evilpig> shut up you. nobody asked for your two cents 14:06 <@Dementia> Pig roast! Pig roast! 14:06 <@Drag0n`> 2 cents, thats the price 14:06 <@Evilpig> women are to be seen and not heard 14:06 <@Dementia> Keep telling yourself that 14:07 <@Drag0n`> i prefer when i can hear mine 14:09 <@Evilpig> look at this picture. is it just me or do they look like the shirts were like... I dunno. fucked up. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4521558&id=636505550&op=2&view=global&subj=1489703570 14:09 <@Evilpig> http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v64/202/78/636505550/n636505550_53982_715.jpg 14:12 < eryc> looks normal to me 14:13 <@Evilpig> might be my monitor then. I had the gamma jacked up for something 14:13 < eryc> the guy on the top left looks like his head was pasted on 14:13 <@Evilpig> hrmm nope. the head on the left dude still looks like ht was cropped in 14:13 < eryc> and in general they look pretty stupid 14:14 < eryc> yea 14:14 <@Evilpig> the first girl on the left fancies herself a photographer and it generally horrible at it. just wondering if this was a self portrait attempt 14:23 -!- Peaches1984 [n=Peaches1@bna-69-171-173-160.evdo.leapwireless.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:39 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has joined #se2600 14:42 -!- Peaches1984 [i=green@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:42 -!- uSynx [n=Synx@unaffiliated/synxhm/x-393023] has joined #se2600 14:43 < R3d2Dawn> I have a programming question, well more of a theory that needs validated! I have an older system running win xp sp3, 1GB DDR, P4 2.4GHz. Now my theory is this that if a program that is compiled on say a new System running Dual Core Processor or even newer Pentiums than mine, would work less efficiently on my system than say compiling the same program on my system? 14:44 <@Drag0n`> on windows? probably not, its inneficient on most windows platforms 14:48 <@Evilpig> year to date mail refused by my server: 133352 14:49 < R3d2Dawn> so would said theory work if it was a linux OS 14:51 < R3d2Dawn> I am basing this soley on that an older version of a software (that was released around the time of my system or even before) worked allot better than a newer version that was released just recently. My system is about 10 yrs old. 14:53 <@Drag0n`> honestly, the filesystem block size should have no bearing on the network traffic block size 14:54 <@Drag0n`> if you are transfering over a wan link you may be having a router mtu issue 14:55 <@Drag0n`> drop the mtu to under 1350 and the overhead should still fit in the 1400 mtu size 14:58 -!- Husky [i=stfu@unaffiliated/coil] has quit [Excess Flood] 14:58 -!- coil [i=stfu@mist3r-1-pt.tunnel.tserv8.dal1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #se2600 14:58 -!- coil is now known as Guest82373 14:59 < Peaches1984> anyone going to be at the meeting at j j's tonight 15:00 < R3d2Dawn> what meeting? 15:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Just sent out a reminder to the list 15:00 <@Drag0n`> disreguard my last statements 15:00 <@Corydon76-dig> 615 2600 meeting 15:01 <@Corydon76-dig> delayed one week due to the holiday on the 1st 15:01 < R3d2Dawn> Should of figured that. 15:01 <@rhia> Drag0n: answering the wrong tab? ;) 15:01 <@Drag0n`> wrong channel 15:01 -!- Corydon76-dig changed the topic of #se2600 to: Most 2600 meetings tonight, at the usual places and times (delayed 1 week due to the holiday) 15:01 < Shadow404> suspects is the right word fo rit 15:01 < Shadow404> *for it 15:02 < eryc> 2600 still exists? 15:03 < Guest82373> whats a 26500 15:04 < R3d2Dawn> ARE YOU SERIOUS? 15:04 <@Corydon76-dig> 26500 is a zip code 15:04 <@Drag0n`> its also a number 15:05 < eryc> its the level on warcraft you have to reach before you get laid 15:05 < R3d2Dawn> Please tell me you are joking about 2600 existing and what it is! 15:05 <@Corydon76-dig> He didn't ask about 2600. He asked about 26500 15:06 < eryc> i thought atari went out of business 15:10 < R3d2Dawn> I do not think they did 15:10 < uSynx> i need a python expert 15:10 < uSynx> actually anyone who knows anything about python 15:11 < uSynx> I'm very confused on the if statement 15:11 < uSynx> there is no endif, how does it decern when the if statement is over 15:11 < uSynx> ala... 15:11 < uSynx> if blah == blah: 15:11 < uSynx> print 'blah' 15:11 < uSynx> .. 15:11 < uSynx> print "done' 15:12 < uSynx> it was alwasy print 'done' 15:12 < uSynx> where the f is the endif though 15:12 < uSynx> is it based on line feeds 15:13 <@Corydon76-dig> It's based upon indentation 15:13 < uSynx> oh shit 15:13 < uSynx> i figured that might be the case, but it seemed extreme 15:13 <@Corydon76-dig> It ends where the next line of code is not indented 15:13 < uSynx> does it have to be spaced or tabed? 15:14 <@Corydon76-dig> It has to be exactly the same as the first line after the if 15:14 < uSynx> rgr 15:14 < uSynx> thats some crazy ish 15:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Whatever that is, just has to be the same 15:14 <@Corydon76-dig> People either love or hate Python. There is no in-between 15:15 <@opticron> i don't know, i'm fairly meh about python 15:17 < uSynx> ya im not too happy about it this far 15:18 < uSynx> but im editing someone musicbrainz picard plugin 15:22 < eryc> python sucks 15:22 < eryc> nerds love it 15:22 -!- unixfg [n=ryan@ghruaim.net] has joined #se2600 15:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfg] by ChanServ 15:26 <@m0j0-j0j0> languages that use whitespace suck. I'd like python a lot better if it wasn't all indentified.. I guess that's why I write so much in perl and c 15:27 <@m0j0-j0j0> brimstone: Hell lies in others. 15:28 <@brimstone> Hell is other people. 15:41 < uSynx> Fuck! Just got a text from my roomate, looks like some water line at my house burst !!!! 15:41 < uSynx> and im 2500miles away from home till the middle of next week 15:41 < Guest82373> fffffffffffu 15:42 < Guest82373> that shit sux bro 15:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> at least your roommate isn't with you 15:53 < uSynx> fucking sprinkler lines 15:53 < uSynx> it wasn't susposed to get this cold 15:53 < uSynx> never thought to drain the lines 15:53 < uSynx> at least thats an easy fix 15:56 -!- rhia [n=rhia@pool-173-74-76-231.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:57 -!- rhia [n=rhia@pool-173-74-76-231.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 15:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rhia] by ChanServ 16:00 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:10 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has joined #se2600 16:20 -!- Drag0n` [n=nunya@199.180.3.25] has quit ["connection reset by pear, FRUIT FIGHT!!!!"] 16:40 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 16:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 17:05 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=m0j0-j0j@vnet503-hosoc.mcclatchyinteractive.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 17:12 -!- Peaches1984 [i=green@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 17:31 -!- Venom_X_ [n=pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 17:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X_] by ChanServ 17:40 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:40 -!- Venom_X_ is now known as Venom_X 17:41 -!- Guest82373 is now known as coil 17:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o coil] by ChanServ 17:57 -!- Peaches1984 [n=Peaches1@adsl-070-148-117-237.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 18:00 -!- Corydon76-lap [n=Corydon7@adsl-070-148-117-237.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 18:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-lap] by ChanServ 18:01 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:01 * Corydon76-lap pokes NotLarry 18:01 * Peaches1984 pokes corydon76 18:02 <@ShadowHntr> wish i could have come to the meeting... 18:02 < Peaches1984> why can't you 18:02 <@ShadowHntr> transportation and lack thereof 18:02 <@ShadowHntr> anyone in Antioch/La Vergne/Smyrna area? 18:02 < Peaches1984> aww man i am sorry 18:02 <@ShadowHntr> that's ok, i'm used to it 18:03 <@Dagmar> Oh hell there's a meeting sort of 18:03 <@ShadowHntr> lol 18:03 <@Corydon76-lap> Sort of, yes 18:04 <@Dagmar> NotLarry's on a different schedule now so he's probably asleep 18:04 <@Corydon76-lap> Heh, it happens 18:05 <@Dagmar> I've just completely dismanted my myth setup 18:06 <@ShadowHntr> anyone here use myth with a backend that's not dedicated to myth? 18:07 <@ShadowHntr> i'd like to add myth backend capability to existing software 18:07 <@ShadowHntr> specifically OpenSolaris backend 18:07 <@ShadowHntr> i haven't found much help with myth documentation 18:07 <@Dagmar> That depends on your hardware support 18:07 <@Dagmar> If your tuner card needs v4l to work you're probably boned 18:08 <@ShadowHntr> well all i really want when i say "backend" define as file server via NFS or SMB 18:08 <@ShadowHntr> i won't be using tv tuner functionality yet 18:08 <@ShadowHntr> i don't have the hardware 18:08 <@Dagmar> Hold one while I grab a URL For you that will help 18:08 <@ShadowHntr> appreciate the help =) 18:08 <@Dagmar> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview 18:08 <@Corydon76-lap> How is it a myth backend, if it doesn't have a tuner? 18:08 <@Dagmar> I pretty much wrote that 18:08 <@ShadowHntr> ok let me redefine my idea 18:09 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-dig: It's effectively a slave backend, but I think in this case he's just using different definitions of "backend" 18:09 <@ShadowHntr> yeah 18:09 <@ShadowHntr> let me define what i want 18:09 <@Dagmar> Using an NFS server for file storage is easy enough 18:09 <@Dagmar> I'm abotu to start doing htat here once I get the HD-PVR working 18:09 <@ShadowHntr> functionality i want is video playback 18:10 <@ShadowHntr> the files themselves being on another server 18:10 <@ShadowHntr> no tv tuner necessary, YET 18:10 <@Corydon76-lap> That's what a myth frontend does 18:10 <@Dagmar> Yeah this is why I wrote the EO page 18:10 <@Dagmar> It's way easier to figure this out when you know exactly which pieces do what 18:10 <@Dagmar> The frontend is going to be dependent on VDPAU mostly for anything h.264 18:11 <@Dagmar> ...which afaik means you'd better be running the fe on Linux 18:11 <@Corydon76-lap> mythfrontends don't need direct filesystem access to any of the files 18:11 <@Dagmar> MythVideo will want it 18:11 <@ShadowHntr> of course 18:11 <@Dagmar> ...but an NFS or Samba mount satisfies that problem 18:11 <@ShadowHntr> but the NFS mount will get around that 18:11 <@ShadowHntr> my NFS server will probably be Solaris/OpenSolaris 18:12 <@ShadowHntr> so i can run mythvideo by itself? 18:13 <@Dagmar> Not really outside of Myth you can't 18:13 <@Dagmar> MythVideo is a module that handles "files you threw at it" 18:13 <@ShadowHntr> well that's the only module i'd be using 18:13 <@Dagmar> The frontend plays directly using the internal player things which were recorded by Myth 18:13 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh 18:13 <@Dagmar> MythVideo will generally use the internal player 18:14 <@ShadowHntr> myth is great but it's probably overkill for my proposed setup 18:14 <@Dagmar> There's a degree to which Myth is seriously strained in development 18:14 <@ShadowHntr> i could get away with something *much* simpler 18:14 <@ShadowHntr> if i wanted OTA DVR functionality this would be *great* 18:14 <@Dagmar> Everyone kinda knows the database should be one-stop-shopping for getting videos, but no one wants to tear the entire thing apart and rejigger it to make that happen 18:16 <@Dagmar> So until that happens, there's basically two sets of data that are separate. One for recordings made by the backend, and one containing the details on the files you told MythVideo to find on your HD 18:17 <@Dagmar> Me, I'm still jsut a third of the way through making a list of all the places it's got to be stabbed in the face so that it will use UTC instead of localtime 18:17 <@Dagmar> One of those old-programmer versus new-programmer issues 18:33 -!- uSynx [n=Synx@unaffiliated/synxhm/x-393023] has quit ["leaving"] 19:05 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [] 19:14 -!- Peaches1984 [n=Peaches1@adsl-070-148-117-237.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:34 * eryc rejiggers 19:37 -!- Corydon76-lap [n=Corydon7@adsl-070-148-117-237.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:54 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJmCem8qbTE 20:06 <@Dagmar> Yep. 20:06 <@Dagmar> He's a freakin' ninja, alright 20:26 -!- devoid [i=devnull@unaffiliated/devemo] has joined #se2600 20:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o devoid] by ChanServ 20:26 <@devoid> Hi. 20:32 < eryc> tits or gtfo 21:34 <@coil> Hi. 21:34 <@coil> I don't see how that's a full sentence though. 21:35 <@devoid> It's not. 21:35 <@devoid> Ending every statement with a period makes me feel important. 21:35 <@devoid> (=. 22:06 -!- Peaches1984 [i=eight@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:13 -!- devoid [i=devnull@unaffiliated/devemo] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:21 -!- devoid [i=devnull@unaffiliated/devemo] has joined #se2600 22:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o devoid] by ChanServ 22:38 <@[1NF0]> I don't like periods 22:39 <@coil> i dont like what bleeds 22:42 <@ShadowHntr> did i just wreck your haiku? 23:01 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["leaving"] 23:05 -!- devoid [i=devnull@unaffiliated/devemo] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:06 <@[1NF0]> you got the center. 23:10 -!- Peaches1984 [i=eight@c-69-137-80-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:57 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@pool-74-96-38-233.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 23:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ --- Log closed Sat Jan 09 00:00:55 2010