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00:06 <@sasquatc4> ahh
00:07 <@sasquatc4> wow, not that i was a fan of tiesto or nothin, but it looks like hiphop/raps inclusion of house music is coming closer and closer, three6mafia did a song with tiesto
01:07 <@Dagmar> 1. Tiesto is a bit of a whore
01:07 <@Dagmar> 2. It would be far from the first time rap/hiphop and house have been mixed
01:08 <@Dagmar> 3. Beastie Boys probably did it better
01:08 <@Dagmar> ;)
01:08 <@Dagmar> Seriosuly tho, Tiesto is as heavily commercialized as they come
01:10 <@sasquatc4> im well aware, just over the past few years hiphop has been taking  more and more from house
01:10 <@sasquatc4> that just sorta brings it all around when its three6mafia and tiesto
01:11 <@sasquatc4> but like i said, not really a fan of his to begin with, he is greatly commercialized, and also instantly modifies his style to fit whatever he can market the best at the moment
01:13 <@sasquatc4> he started out as hardhouse, back when no one really listened to the stuff, gf saw him in ibiza back before he was known and thats what he was playin
01:13 <@sasquatc4> then fluffy trance took over and he jumped on the bandwagon and marketed the hell out of it, then trance started dying away in popularity and he instantly jumped on electro house
01:16 <@coil> WHAT ABOUT OAKENFOLD?!!?!?
01:18 <@sasquatc4> hah, buddy actually went to a party a few months ago and they didnt even realize he was headlining, they said he was on for about 15min before they left, apparently he was just so fucked up he couldnt hold it together and just destroyed the whole show
01:18 <@Dagmar> Not by half, seriously
01:18 < ware> wewt
01:18 < ware> HoR tanked!
01:18 <@Dagmar> I know Oakenfold is especially commoditized, but Tiesto is practically on the level of a boy band
01:18 <@Dagmar> ware: Not fuckin' bad dude
01:18 <@sasquatc4> yup
01:18 <@Dagmar> They make you WORK for your badges in HoR
01:18 < ware> i turned in the quest at the end of it
01:18 <@Dagmar> Oh wait...
01:18 <@Dagmar> ware: Heroic or Normal mode?
01:18 < ware> and it dinged me 1000 quests
01:18 < ware> Heroic!
01:19 <@Dagmar> Awesome
01:19 < ware> yeah was pretty fun
01:19 <@Dagmar> HoR normal is pretty hard, but HoR heroic is a biiiitch
01:19 < ware> we wanna get a 10 man group going
01:19 < ware> to get through naxx and ulduar hard modes
01:19 <@Dagmar> We got pantsed more than a few times going through it knowing nothing about it
01:19 < ware> ive never tanked in there tho and think it'd be fun
01:19 < ware> yeah this was my 2nd attempt
01:19 < ware> but we got it
01:20 <@Dagmar> Mainly during that escape phase.  That's a damn endurance challenge
01:20 <@Dagmar> Failrik and Marin are challenging, but not ludicrous if your people actually know their target acquisition and CC tactics
01:21 <@Dagmar> I wanna see ICC pretty bad
01:22 <@Dagmar> I'm hearing the zerg guilds aren't doing so well.  I'd like to see if my people can pretty much take out the first three bosses without reading up
01:23 <@Dagmar> I'm kinda tired of the raiders acting snooty because they have higher gear levels, just because they can get together in large groups
01:23 <@Dagmar> ...and only because they can get in large groups.
01:23 < ware> yeah i havent been in ICC
01:24 < ware> yep
01:24 <@Dagmar> THe first boss in there is, as per usual, basically a gear cheak
01:24 <@Dagmar> s/cheak/check/;
01:24 < ware> i want a fun casual 10 man guild
01:24 < ware> dont care for the 25 man groups at the moment
01:24 <@Dagmar> If they'll give us shorter lockouts or something and an LFR mechanism it'd happen
01:24 <@Dagmar> All the cross-server pugging has let me get a better idea of the playerbase
01:25 <@Dagmar> My favorite is seeing SV and MM hunters in pugs
01:26 <@Dagmar> They make me look so good
01:26 <@Dagmar> ...although one night I did catch and SV who I would have loved to have on our server
01:27 <@Dagmar> I got the feeling that we could probably have duo'd a couple of the bosses with no tank.  Heh
01:28 <@Dagmar> That 600 attack power buff on the pet from four pieces of T9 definitely makes for sweet, sweet deeps
01:28 <@Dagmar> I can be auto-shooting and the monkey will pull aggro from an underperforming tank
01:30 <@Dagmar> The little raider kids don't much care for seeing me pull 3300-4500 DPS in 5-mans
01:31 <@Dagmar> wagnerrp: Just ask him why he hasn't updated his webpage in so long http://www.somethingawful.com/hosted/jeffk/
01:31 <@Dagmar> wrongchan
01:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: have you ever heard of PLT (procedure linkage table) corruption?
01:50 <@Corydon76-dig> I've gotten two issues recently where it appears that the PLT got corrupted in some way, and the only thing I can think of is to point to a compiler/linker bug
01:51 <@Corydon76-dig> However, I'd like to make sure that that is the actual problem and not just a mask for some other issue
01:53 <@Dagmar> See if you can make it manifest
01:53 <@Corydon76-dig> It seems to be some sort of race condition, because it seems to be isolated to heavily loaded systems
01:53 <@Dagmar> Create a bunch of procedurally named functions that all take the same argument and call them iteratively
01:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Here's one of them:  https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=15915
01:54 <@Dagmar> I don't know enough about the code to read anytihng useful into that
01:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, the symbol in the backtrace is used often enough that this cannot be the first time that the symbol was referenced
01:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Besides which, that symbol is located in the base binary
01:56 <@Dagmar> If these are running on VM's I'd blame the VM
01:56 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm not even sure why the PLT would be involved for that function, because there's no lazy binding involved
01:56 <@Dagmar> Reading through the comments tho I'm beginning to agree with you
01:57 <@Corydon76-dig> For the sparse amount of documentation, Linux appears to use the PLT only for lazy binding of functions and the GOT for static binding
02:00 <@Dagmar> I'd ask them for their exact build output from compiling the package
02:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Not sure what I'd be looking for in that.
02:01 <@Dagmar> After reading http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1872 to get more of this into my head, something's likely going to be screaming "This was done wrong" when you look at the compilation log, or there's something deeply busted in their VM
02:04 <@Dagmar> Something's gotta be fucking up the cached lookups
02:04 <@Dagmar> Fuck if I know what would do that tho
02:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Somewhere else I read that the PLT is located in readonly memory, so nothing should be able to overwrite it
02:07  * eryc makes a note
02:07 <@Dagmar> I know no one wants to believe it, but it could be a vm-ification issue
02:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Only thing I can think of would be an errant write on a multi-processor machine at the exact moment that another processor had unprotected the memory to update an address, but that seems far-fetched
02:07 <@Dagmar> It would ahve to be something on that order of weirdness
02:08 <@Dagmar> Like, the machine needed to move the table and something didn't happen like it was supposed to to make it happen in time for another core or something
02:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Right
02:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, it helps that somebody else is able to follow that line of thinking
02:09 <@Dagmar> BUt you should be able to just write something to torture the thunderfuck out of the linker, and load the hell out of a machine and replicate it
02:10 <@Dagmar> I mean, if there's some other hardware-related cause it may or may not manifest if the machine is suddenly spending 99.9% of it's time iterating through a million function lookups
02:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Eh, I've gotten well-versed in figuring out theoretical bugs without reproducing them...
02:10 <@Corydon76-dig> so that's something, anyway
02:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, you've confirmed my suspicions, so I feel better about having seen and closed those issues
02:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Just want enough information so that when this happens again, I have a bit to go on in explaining how it's not our fault, and we can't fix it.
02:12 <@Corydon76-dig> ;-)
02:20 < eryc> i thought asterisk always crashed under load
02:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Nah, you're thinking of Exchange
02:52 <@Evilpig> Exchange doesn't crash under load.  It just acts like you never asked for anything
02:53 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: btw it was burning rubber.  there was a belt slipping down in the basement electrical room
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04:14 <@Evilpig> does this interest anyone for Saturday 01-09-2010 at 1:20? http://www.fandango.com/theimaginariumofdoctorparnassus_126572/movieoverview?date=1/9/2010
04:15 < eryc> ooooooooooooooh
04:17 <@Evilpig> Pretty sure I am gonna go, but figured I would extend an invite out to anyone in the area that might want to go as well.  It looks really good
04:54 < eryc> when did that come out?
04:54 < eryc> it definitely looks really good
05:27 <@Evilpig> christmas day
05:27 <@Evilpig> but doesn't look to be here until friday
05:35 < eryc> yea well it looks like select theatres today
05:35 < eryc> everywhere tomorrow
05:35 < eryc> its playing at the one by my house today
05:35 < eryc> i'm going to try to see it
05:36 <@Evilpig> fandango only had it listed at regal 16 and one other
05:36 <@Evilpig> someplace in franklin
05:36 < eryc> cool well i live in DC
06:02 < eryc> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2010/01/e60jv-2.jpg
06:04 < eryc> http://www.abcactionnews.com/content/news/local/story/Thirsty-Bacteria-linked-to-feces-found-on-soda/s8u5rfhJrUC23zJNGlcPWw.cspx
06:11 < eryc> http://news.cnet.com/1606-2_3-50081822.html
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06:52 <@Evilpig> haha "nike is standing by tiger woods. who better signifies 'just do it'?"
06:54 < eryc> nice shoes
06:56 < eryc> wanna fuck
07:11 <@Evilpig> also made a joke that at&t shouldn't drop tiger they should install a cell tower on his zipper.  hehe
07:17 <@opticron> but then that cell tower would go up and down like nobody's business
07:17 <@opticron> s/nobody/tiger/
07:18 < eryc> i'd like to see the coverage map
07:18 <@opticron> of tiger's junk
07:18 < eryc> service available in most area codes
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09:04 <@Evilpig> this spam is almost authentic
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09:04 <@Evilpig> anyone detect the ole swapperoo there?
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09:55 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
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11:18 <@Evilpig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7W9zeZyhxw Kingston SSD engineers "field test" their product
11:18 < sung> Evilpig: you find another job?
11:23 <@nachoguy> Piggie, you're not at vandy anymore?
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11:29 <@Evilpig> when was I looking for another job?
11:29 <@Evilpig> I've been at vandy since april
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13:18 < eryc> http://tinyurl.com/spaceppl
13:19 <@coil> whose that
13:19 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkh786EbSg
13:29 < ware> Evilpig: come to sargeras
13:29 < ware> Dagmar: come to sargeras
13:30 <@coil> ware: come to sargeras
13:30 < ware> coil: already came
13:31 <@coil> icamed
13:40 < eryc> im coming
13:48 < Shadow404> im coming tonight
13:52 < eryc> all night?
13:53 < Shadow404> nah, probably quick and dirty, so 10 minutes worth
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17:20 < eryc> beanbag or la-z-boy?
17:27 < eryc> http://vimeo.com/7809605
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18:22 <@m0j0-j0j0> gym time
18:22 <@m0j0-j0j0> peace
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21:44 < dasunt> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/pigs
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22:55 <@coil> Does anyone else find it ironic that, as your virtual character gains experience, wealth and social stature, your reality character is losing the exact same things at the same rate?
23:06  * dasunt snickers.
23:06 < dasunt> Wow, that's insightful.
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