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00:09 <@sdodson> the more drives you have the more failures you'll have so just get rid of all the drives!
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00:26 <@Jagobah> the worst is when it's the firmware that fails
00:26 <@Jagobah> because you have no warning signs
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00:31 <@sdodson> ya, that'd suck
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01:49 <@Dagmar> I had a warning sign.
01:49 <@Dagmar> *Ubuntu* of all things, showing me a positively histrionic dialog about it
02:10 < eryc> lets all get SSD!
02:10 < eryc> i mean LSD!
02:11 <@Dagmar> Man I'm *still* not sure if I could eat another piece of paper
02:12 <@Dagmar> SSD on the other hand--I'm just waitin' for prices to fall a bit more
02:28 < eryc> true on both
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03:37  * dasunt_ ponders.
03:38 < eryc> k
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04:08 <@Jagobah> ack
04:08 <@Jagobah> anyways
04:09 <@Jagobah> no one would happen to have experience with fixing WD firmware issues, no?
04:09 < dasunt_> Not at all.
04:09 <@Jagobah> google isn't being too helpful, just see some seagate stuff
04:09 < dasunt_> What's it doing anyways?
04:09 <@Jagobah> was working fine
04:09 <@Jagobah> all of a sudden, gave me IO errors trying to write to it
04:09 <@Jagobah> can't boot up with it attached, barely recognized
04:10 < dasunt_> Tried another machine?
04:10 <@Jagobah> sounds perfect acoustically
04:10 <@Jagobah> I have another machine but I need a DVI to VGA adapter
04:10 <@Jagobah> hoping computers plus will be open or radio shack
04:10 < dasunt_> When we get bad drives at work, sometimes one motherboard will boot with it.
04:10 < dasunt_> And another won't.
04:10 <@Jagobah> ..... hmmm
04:11 <@Jagobah> It's a WD10EADS btw
04:11 < dasunt_> What do you have off of it that you'd like recovered?
04:14 <@Jagobah> some audio recordings and a backup of one of my older machines that had some stuff I wanted to comb through
04:15 <@Jagobah> also have a ton of tv shows/movies but I can get those elsewhere
04:15 <@Jagobah> where do you work at?
04:15 < eryc> why do you think its the firmware?
04:16 <@Jagobah> sounds fine acoustically, so it's not a head crash
04:16 <@Jagobah> and I had no other warning signs either
04:17 < dasunt_> Jagobah: Place in Minnesota.
04:17 <@Jagobah> i see
04:17 < dasunt_> If you can, you can always dd it (either dd or a similar program will write bad blocks as 0s, forget if dd can do it though) and then recover the bad image.
04:18 < eryc> theres other failure points besides the heads
04:18 < eryc> i doubt its the firmware
04:18 <@Jagobah> ok then
04:19 < dasunt_> It's possible that the surface of the drive is damaged by the file table.
04:19 < eryc> you can recover it for $800
04:19 <@Jagobah> well about a month ago
04:20 <@Jagobah> I had the drive in an external enclosure, and it was standing upright.  A month ago when I reached around it to grab something it tipped over and fell
04:20 <@Jagobah> and I am now realizing I'm repeating myself
04:21 <@Jagobah> but the drive was still fine
04:21 < dasunt_> Heh, was trying to figure out what the operating range of the grease I used in my bicycle hub was.
04:21 < dasunt_> Since my wheel didn't turn as easily tonight.
04:21 < eryc> try to dd it like dasunt said
04:21 < dasunt_> Tonight's temperature:  -9°F, grease's operating range:  450°F to -10°F.
04:21 < eryc> it may just be one platter or area
04:22 <@Jagobah> i remember seeing a disk verification error when I was booting it up in BIOS
04:22 <@Jagobah> of course that was with AHCI
04:22 <@Jagobah> tomorrow I can try it on the other computer without it
04:22 < dasunt_> Jagobah: Look at dd_rescue.
04:23 <@Jagobah> i use windows btw
04:23 < dasunt_> Or myrescue.
04:23 < dasunt_> Use a live cd.  ;)
04:24 < eryc> i use chrome os my data lives in the cloud and google owns it
04:25 < dasunt_> I just encrypt all my backups, name them hot_teen_girl_horse_xxx.mpg and put them on limewire.
04:26 <@Jagobah> ok i can try those
04:27 <@Jagobah> wonder if I should do the fridgerator trick
04:29 < dasunt_> That's for drives that don't spin.
04:32 <@Jagobah> doh
04:32 <@Jagobah> well
04:32 <@Jagobah> I wish I could at least check the firmware
04:32 < dasunt_> I really doubt that is the issue.
04:32 <@Jagobah> or do some kind of diagnostics that don't involve $800 equipment
04:33 < dasunt_> SMART?
04:36 <@Jagobah> SMART checked out fine
04:36 <@Jagobah> before the crash
04:38 < dasunt_> Gone WD's site yet?
04:38 < dasunt_> Er, gone to?
04:40 <@Jagobah> yeah
05:12 < dasunt_> Z http://thereifixedit.com/2010/01/01/crypts-or-bloods-do-i-believe-the-bandana-or-the-truck/
05:12 < dasunt_> Classy.
05:13 <@Jagobah> O_o
05:13  * dasunt_ goes to bed now.
05:28  * dasunt_ ponders some more.
05:29  * dasunt_ ponders going to bed, damnit!
05:35 < eryc> fail
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11:51 <@m0j0-j0j0> whadup!?
12:04 < Todd> shiat
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12:16 <@m0j0-j0j0> Todd: I'm soo glad to be home again 2 weeks of hotels is too much.  How you been?
12:20 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: hi!
12:20 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: hey!
12:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: my touring days are over (for a few weeks :))
12:23 <@Jagobah> uggggggh millions upon millions of bad sectors
12:23 <@Jagobah> how on earth does this shit happen
12:30 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: where'd you go?
12:31 <@m0j0-j0j0> savanah ga, st. augestine fl, daytona beach fl, orlando fl, tampa fl, and atlanta ga
12:48 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: why?
12:49 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: because my companies vacation policy changed and I had to use up a ton of time still so I figured a road trip would be fun
12:49 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: how much time can you bank?
12:50 <@sdodson> i was at my limit but i've been off for the past week so that should remedy that.
12:51 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: well, I had something like 8 weeks saved up about 6 months ago
12:51 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: damn son, use that shit
12:51 <@sdodson> 8 weeks does seem absurd
12:52 <@sdodson> 40*8
12:52 <@m0j0-j0j0> and they told me that I had get it down 3 by the end of the year so I took off every friday and still had some time left to burn up
12:52 <@sdodson> damnit, 1) why does the calculator not take over focus when i press the button on my keyboard, 2) why do i need a calculator to multiply 8*4
12:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> 320
12:53 <@sdodson> i know
12:53 <@sdodson> i think we cap out at 160 for anyone who hasn't been there 5 yrs or more
12:53 <@sdodson> which is me
12:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> so, by dec of next year I have to get it down to 1 week
12:54 <@sdodson> why down to 1 week?
12:54 <@m0j0-j0j0> grr.. and by next year I mean this year
12:55 <@m0j0-j0j0> because the policy says that we can only have 1 week of vacation carry over on Dec 21st every yeart
12:56 <@m0j0-j0j0> but they they me carry 3 weeks over this year because I had so much to burn off
12:58 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: I accrue 160hrs of vacation a year so..
13:01 <@sdodson> oh ya
13:01 <@m0j0-j0j0> I think I'll be taking a lot of vacation this coming year.
13:01 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: Lets go party in Finland or something!
13:02 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: k, let me save up some $
13:05 <@m0j0-j0j0> nc2600 field trip to finland
13:08 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'll have to get a new passport, but all my papers should be with the boxes of crap I brought in mexico
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20:31 < dasunt_> I hate SF books that screw up basic science.
21:42 <@sdodson> SF?
21:47 < tzanger> science fiction
21:47 < tzanger> apparently he doesn't like too much fiction in his science
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23:18 <@m0j0-j0j0> In the future we'll find out that most of the hard rules of science we know today aren't even close to correct.
23:20 < dasunt> m0j0-j0j0: That would probably explain why the individuals in my book were predicted to survive on about 100 calories a day.
23:20 < dasunt> Those pesky hard rules can't be correct.
23:24 <@m0j0-j0j0> dasunt: They are evolved.  In the future the human body is more efficient.
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23:24 <@devoid> Hi.
23:25 <@m0j0-j0j0> yo yo
23:25 <@devoid> hey
23:25 <@devoid> how's it going?
23:25 <@m0j0-j0j0> dasunt: In the future all we need is love.
23:26 <@m0j0-j0j0> devoid: glad to be home.. You doing good?
23:26 <@devoid> Yeah.
23:26 <@devoid> <@devoid> So I was building a computer. I turned it on, and I heard a loud popping sound. I found my screwdriver.
23:26 <@devoid> Happened today.
23:27 < dasunt> Cute.  Where was the screwdriver.
23:27 < dasunt> m0j0-j0j0: I'm trying to figure that out, actually.  How many calories are required for a maximumly efficient human being.
23:28 <@devoid> Hitting a nice combination of a cap and some jumpers on the motherboard.
23:28 <@m0j0-j0j0> dasunt: isn't it something like 1200
23:30 < dasunt> m0j0-j0j0: I think that's starvation.
23:30 < dasunt> 1500 to 2500 is probably average.
23:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> I think that one of the really popular diet centers focuses on a 1200 cal/day diet.
23:34 < dasunt> Well, you have to be deficient by about 3500 calories to burn a pound of fat.
23:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> "to maintain desirable weight, men need about 2,700 calories per day and women need about 2,000 calories per day."
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23:46 < xtort-> i lost 25 lbs by eating 600-900 calories a day for a month and a half
23:48 < xtort-> along with exersizing
23:52 <@m0j0-j0j0> xtort-: I lost 130#s over 16 months, but I don't do the calorie count thing
23:52 < xtort-> wow, way to go!
23:55 <@m0j0-j0j0> *shrug* my doctor made me do it.
23:58 <@m0j0-j0j0> worst part is my doctor still says I'm overweight :/
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