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01:04 <@devoid> Happy new year!
01:05 < xtort-> you too
01:05 < xtort-> my wife just barfed in a paper top hat
01:12 <@devoid> nice
01:14 <@Dagmar> Good party
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12:23  * dasunt_ yawns.
13:26 < dasunt_> http://rageblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/pizza-rage.jpg
13:26 < dasunt_> That's a triangle.
13:26 < dasunt_> Meh.
13:27 <@Dagmar> Steam has Portal and Mass Effect fer five bucks today
13:28 <@Dagmar> dasunt_: It's at least as close as you're going to get to an isosceles triangle on a pizza
13:28 <@Dagmar> I'd say Pizza Hut did an exceptional job
13:32 <@Dagmar> Give them enough time and there'll be a narcoleptic-assistance option in the interface controls, just like there's one for the colorblind
13:33 < dasunt_> Dagmar: I disagree.  Any one isosceles triangle can be divided into 4 smaller isosceles triangles.
13:33 <@Dagmar> Id' say they did all they needed to do to accommodate a silly request
13:33 <@Dagmar> Pizza Hut only cuts thin pizzas into squares afaik
13:33 < dasunt_> Since the instructions say _triangle_s_, I'd say they need at least 2.  ;)
13:35 < dasunt_> I thought they did the regular sliced pizza.
13:35 < dasunt_> As did Dominos.
13:35 <@Dagmar> They do
13:35 <@Dagmar> If you get a 'thin 'n crispy' tho most of their francises will cut it in squares
13:35 <@Dagmar> Everything else gets pie-sliced
13:36 <@Dagmar> Believe me, Dominos should be sending me fuckin' holiday cards
13:36 < dasunt_> Ah, okay.
13:36 <@Dagmar> They're not _perfect_ but Domino's new cheesesteaks are pretty awesome
13:37 <@Dagmar> Just being able to get a cheesesteak delivered is awesome
13:37 < dasunt_> I get my pizzas delivered by superheroes (http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/fsb/0802/gallery.superhero_pizza.fsb/index.html ) so I wouldn't know.
13:39 <@Dagmar> I'd rather the gender preference of my deliveryperson remain a secret
13:39 <@Dagmar> Up until I saw the picture I thought that was a cool idea
13:39 < dasunt_> There's a great story about that place.
13:39 < dasunt_> One of their clients likes to dress up as a supervillian and "steal" the pizza from the delivery guy.
13:39 <@Dagmar> I can see that
13:39 < dasunt_> (Then another person comes out to pay for it)
13:39 <@Dagmar> Hell I was just thinking the same thing myself
13:40 < dasunt_> Guess who the new delivery drivers always get?
13:40 <@Dagmar> heheh
13:40 < dasunt_> Imagine being in a goofy spandex suite, delivering pizza to a house after dark when someone in a costume jumps out from behind the bushes and steals your pizza.
13:41 < dasunt_> Damn, that has to be a WTF moment.
13:41 < dasunt_> Also, the same company drives dinky little electric cars, which is also a hoot.
13:41 <@Dagmar> If you're delivering pizza wearing a spandex suit I imagine the normal bounds of WTF-ness to be somewhat strained
13:42 < dasunt_> I think this is their old car:  http://velomobiling.net/albums/WeirdStuff/GalacticPizza.jpg\
13:42 < dasunt_> Er, no trailing slash.
13:43 < dasunt_> They have a new style of car as well.
13:46 < dasunt_> Hmmm, that could be the new style.
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14:03 < dasunt_> what's USB?  12v or 5v?
14:20 <@Dagmar> 5v
14:20 <@Dagmar> There's also an ampereage restriction
14:22 < dasunt_> *nods*
15:12  * dasunt_ has to bike around 15 miles tonight.
15:22 < dasunt_> Actually, around 10, it seems.
15:23 < eryc> cool story bro
15:24 < dasunt_> You know, you are envious.
15:24 < dasunt_> So what temperature are you slackers at now?
15:26 <@Dagmar> Here I was thinking that was a secret homosexual advance phrase
15:26 <@Dagmar> Oh wait
15:26 < dasunt_> Heh.
15:26 < dasunt_> We have a bicycling path finding wiki for the twin cities area.
15:27 < dasunt_> I'm looking at the map and trying to figure out if it's broken, of if it's just the result of them adding winter data to the road conditions.
15:27 <@Dagmar> Lots of ballons on it that say "MOTHERFUCKING COLD HERE"?
15:28 < dasunt_> Well, our side roads are covered with compressed snow and ice.
15:28 < dasunt_> With two ruts in them where vehicles have gone through.
15:29 < dasunt_> Really fun to drive in a vehicle on, since the roads are effectively one lane, cars parked on both sides.  Zilch stopping power in some places, etc.
15:29 < dasunt_> I'm pulling out of a parking lot the other day onto one of these roads.  Ahead of me is a red car.  Ahead of the red car is a white truck, trying to turn onto the road, but stopped.
15:29 < dasunt_> Probably waiting for traffic to clear or someone to get unstuck or something.
15:30 < dasunt_> I can't see what's stopping the white truck (it looks clear to me), but obviously something is up.
15:30 < eryc> its 43 here
15:30 < dasunt_> So the asshole behind me literally opens his car door, stands on the cars threshhold, and starts yelling at me.
15:30 < dasunt_> And the car in front of me.
15:30 < dasunt_> And the truck, I think.
15:31  * dasunt_ sighs.
15:31 < eryc> ya i would too
15:31 < eryc> asshole
15:32 < eryc> bicycles should be on the sidewalk where they belong
15:32 < dasunt_> I wonder how many people around there would have not seen anything if I slugged the guy.
15:32 < dasunt_> eryc: I was in a car.
15:32 < eryc> oh
15:32 <@Dagmar> That's when you tell him to get back in his car and stfu
15:32 < dasunt_> If I was on a bike, I could have u-locked his side mirror and then taken off.  He wouldn't have caught me.
15:32 < eryc> next time shoot their tires out with your uzi
15:33 < dasunt_> Not that I would have, but the thought is entertaining.
15:33 <@Dagmar> Gotta keep a token blunt object in the car
15:33 <@Dagmar> Mine's an ice scraper made of ABS plastic that's about a foot and a half long
15:33 < dasunt_> eryc: The uzi plan has a flaw.  You can't really make a quick getaway when the traffic is backed up to you.
15:35 <@Dagmar> "Oh my god officer.  He came at said he was going to kill me.  I stuck him in self defense, but since it was only an ice scraper, I had to hit him 30-40 times."
15:35 < dasunt_> LOL!
15:36 < dasunt_> I don't know how these type-A impatient people survive driving through uptown.
15:36 < dasunt_> Traffic averages about 10 mph if you are lucky on the side roads.
15:36 <@Dagmar> I like the ones with kids hte most
15:36 < dasunt_> With frequent stops.
15:36 < dasunt_> Dagmar: Oh, one of the local radio shows have a "ask a state trooper" bit.
15:36 <@Dagmar> There's an intersection near my parents house that splits into two lanes, and the right lane is no different from the left
15:37 < dasunt_> So during a recent snow storm, idiot #1 tries to pass idiot #2 (the caller) on the shoulder.
15:37 <@Dagmar> I generally wind up in the right lane, and people somehow assume that even though I'm not signaling, I am going to turn right
15:37 < dasunt_> So idiot #2 says how he forced idiot #1 off the road by attempting to merge into him.
15:37 <@Dagmar> ...and then they get mad because I haven't already and they honk and act furious.
15:37 < dasunt_> Because "his children were in the car and he wanted to protect them."
15:37 <@Dagmar> If they have kids it's "HOW ABOUT YOU SHUT IT UP BEFORE I TEACH YOUR KID SOME NEW WORDS"
15:38 <@Dagmar> Trooper proably explained about jail
15:38 < dasunt_> Dagmar: Trooper was shocked.
15:38 < eryc> ya keep going
15:39 < dasunt_> Caller asked if that was legal.
15:39 < dasunt_> Yes, if it was _legal_.
15:39 < dasunt_> The trooper's like "no".
15:39  * dasunt_ wants stricter driving tests.
15:39 <@Dagmar> I would like sanity tests
15:39 < dasunt_> Dagmar: I understand your story.  Had someone try to merge into me a few nights ago.
15:39 <@Dagmar> I've had someone get out of their car and act like they were going to come over to me at that intersection
15:40 < dasunt_> I later went back to the same road, and checked.  They had a yield sign.  I didn't.
15:40 <@Dagmar> All I yelled was "fuck off hillbilly".  ;)
15:40 <@Dagmar> Black leather and nicklechromium for the win
15:40 < dasunt_> I've had someone try to pass me when I slowed down and then stopped in front of a gas station, with my left turn signal on.
15:41 < dasunt_> Tried to pass me on my left.
15:41 < dasunt_> I almost hit them.
15:41 < dasunt_> When I pulled into the gas station, I actually checked my turn signal to make sure it was working.
15:41 <@Dagmar> No one *really* pays attention to those
15:42 < dasunt_> I guess not.
15:42 <@Dagmar> Cops should just put a round in the quarterpanel instead of bothering with the horrible decision between writing a ticket and ignoring it when people refuse to signal
15:42 < dasunt_> Nor does the fact that a car might slow down in front of the only gas station for miles on a rural highway mean anything.
15:42 <@Dagmar> When you ride around on a scooter you start to really notice how many ignorant motherfuckers don't use their turn signals at all
15:42 < dasunt_> A friend of mine thinks that cops should have the ability to revoke licenses on the spot during any major rain or snow storm.
15:43 <@Dagmar> I wouldn't really argue with that
15:43 < dasunt_> with the licenses not to be reinstated until after thorough testing.
15:43 < dasunt_> Dagmar: You have a scooter?
15:43 <@Dagmar> Yep
15:43 < dasunt_> You are brave.  ;)
15:43 <@Dagmar> I ain't riding it right now because it's fucking COLD outside and I don't have a spacesuit
15:44 <@Dagmar> dasunt_: I'm also very cheap
15:44 <@Dagmar> Cheap being the important factor
15:44 <@Dagmar> 75mpg+
15:44 < dasunt_> I'd actually consider buying a scooter for local roads (<=30 mph).
15:44 <@Dagmar> The whole damn thing cost about $2700
15:44 <@Dagmar> You can get a used 50cc scooter for under a thousand easily
15:44 < eryc> i dont use my turn signal alot
15:44 < dasunt_> Fuck going on the interstate though.  I'd rather live.
15:44 < eryc> i only use it when someone is behind me
15:45 < eryc> or at an intersection
15:45 <@Dagmar> The one I got is 125cc which means it tops out at about 65mph, and is not legal for the interstate
15:45 <@Dagmar> ...but fuck that
15:45 <@Dagmar> Those people are fucking craz
15:45 <@Dagmar> y
15:45 < dasunt_> I try to always use my turn signal.  It's just a easy habit to put into muscle memory and forget.
15:45 < dasunt_> Dagmar: But, but, if they outweigh you, that means they have the legal right away, right?
15:45 <@Dagmar> I wouldn't get on the interstates around here without a cage around me even if it was legal
15:46 < dasunt_> My coworker rides his crotch rocket on the interstate.
15:46 < dasunt_> He has some interesting stories about cars not respecting the fact that motorcycles get the *full* lane.
15:46 <@Dagmar> Surface streets on the other hand, are pretty much mine for the taking
15:47 <@Dagmar> dasunt_: Dude, too right
15:47 <@Dagmar> Motherfuckers in SUVs will just ignore you
15:47 <@Dagmar> I have *kicked* three SUVs
15:47 <@Dagmar> If I can kick your goddamn vehicle without taking my ass off the seat, you are definitely violating my lane
15:47 <@Dagmar> I may just start aiming for windows and tail lights in the sprint
15:47 <@Dagmar> er spring
15:47 < dasunt_> What's the requirements for scooters?  Full lane as well?
15:48 <@Dagmar> Absolutely
15:48 < dasunt_> A friend of mine has the theory that the best bicycle safety equipment would be a 3' pole with a nail at the end of it to scratch paint.
15:48 <@Dagmar> You're supposed to drive right down the center like you own the whole damn lane because otherwise, jackasses will try to pass you
15:48 < dasunt_> (3' being the legal minimum passing distance for bicycles).
15:48 <@Dagmar> Nah, it would be a .22
15:48 < dasunt_> I think the same idea might work for scooters.
15:48 <@Dagmar> Just shoot out some damn tires
15:48 <@Dagmar> I started to order a 20lb chain called a "new york noose"
15:49 < dasunt_> Oh?
15:49 <@Dagmar> That shit would absolutely take out a window
15:49 < dasunt_> That chain's for locking up your scooter, right?  You were just forced to use it to not get ran off the road.
15:49 <@Dagmar> Seriosuly tho in hte fall some woman decided she wanted to be in the lane I was in
15:50 <@Dagmar> I have a sheathed locking cable from harley davidson for securing the bike
15:50 <@Dagmar> THe chain would just be a weapon
15:50 <@Dagmar> Well, it comes with a lock but...  heheh
15:50 <@Dagmar> We're in stop and go traffic, and this bitch didn't signal or anyhting
15:50 <@Dagmar> She started pulling into my lane in her fucking astro
15:51 < dasunt_> She probably looked for a car.
15:51 <@Dagmar> I'm literally exactly 90 degrees to her left
15:51 < dasunt_> Didn't even see you.
15:51 <@Dagmar> You can't really miss me at that range because I've got a stereo on the scooter and it odesn't have a volume contorl.
15:51 <@Dagmar> It's always at max volume and I play hostile industrial shit
15:51 <@Dagmar> She saw me.  She was just going to force me to yield.
15:51 < dasunt_> Cute.
15:52 <@Dagmar> I don't think she expected I would kick a giant dent in her door.
15:52 < dasunt_> Well, scooters aren't really supposed to be on the road, y'know.  ;)
15:52 < eryc> sidewalk for you too!
15:53 < dasunt_> Sidewalk for everyone that doesn't need a class A to drive their rig!
15:54 < eryc> i get pissed when i see someone riding their bike in the middle of the street when there's a perfectly clear sidewalk available
15:54 < dasunt_> eryc: Er, there's probably a reason for that.
15:54 < eryc> and then they dont even yeild to traffic
15:54 <@Dagmar> Well, for one thing they shouldn't be in the middle of the street--they should be in a lane.
15:54 < dasunt_> Riding on the sidewalk makes you more prone to get hit.
15:54 <@Dagmar> There's a lot of bikes around Belmont
15:55 < dasunt_> But if they don't yield to traffic, they are idiots.
15:55 <@Dagmar> The vast majority of them have no idea htey're supposed to behave like a vehicle and actually follow stop signs and signals.
15:55 < dasunt_> Yah.
15:55 <@Dagmar> These people, imho, deserve to be hit by cars
15:55 < eryc> there's no way being on a sidewalk makes you more prone to hit
15:55 <@Dagmar> Perhaps then the rest of them will catch on
15:55 < dasunt_> Although even the legal cyclists I know tend to tried stop signs like yield signs.
15:55 < dasunt_> I can't really blame them.
15:55 <@Dagmar> Hey I don't care if a bicycle does a "rolling stop"
15:56 < dasunt_> eryc: You are making a turn into a driveway or onto a side street.  Do you expect someone to fly out from the sidewalk doing 20 mph?
15:56 <@Dagmar> It's not like anything major could even possibly happen to them if they don't do a "complete stop"
15:56 < dasunt_> Dagmar: I agree.
15:56 <@Dagmar> It's the ones who wobble all over both lanes, have no lights, and don't even stick out an arm to tell you where they plan to go that's a problem
15:56 < eryc> its the bicyclists job to watch for cars, no the other way around
15:56 < dasunt_> eryc: Actually, legally, you are wrong.
15:57 < eryc> death is the ultimate judge
15:57 <@Dagmar> Oh, and the ones who ride on the right hand edge of the street which has streetside parallel parking, instead of just going on the sidewalk when there's no bike lane
15:57 < dasunt_> It is.
15:57 <@Dagmar> With the cars being irregular they wind up weaving back and forth
15:57 < dasunt_> And since and automobile can go through a stop sign while speeding and kill a cyclist without being charged with manslaughter, it's a pretty fucked up situation.
15:58 < dasunt_> (Yes, that happened locally.  Police recommended manslaughter charges, DA decided not to.)
15:58 <@Dagmar> They should seriously be on the sidewalk and not the street when there is no bike lane and parallel parking and htey're not willing to get in the center of hte lane and pedal like mad
15:59 < dasunt_> Dagmar: We "fixed" that on a local street.
15:59 < dasunt_> The bicycle lane is between the curb and the parallel parking area.
16:00 <@Dagmar> if you did that here people would just park in it
16:00 < dasunt_> Turning automobiles have already hit cyclists.
16:00 <@Dagmar> lol
16:00 < dasunt_> Oh, cars park in it as well.
16:00 < dasunt_> And they open their doors in front of cyclists.
16:00 < dasunt_> Cabs stop in it.
16:00 < dasunt_> And in the winter, snow is pushed into it.
16:01 < dasunt_> Oh, and turning cars hit bicyclists since nobody is expecting a bike to emerge from behind a row of parked cars.
16:02 < dasunt_> Utter waste of money.
16:02 < dasunt_> We had two streets that were one ways, one was wide enough for a bike lane, the other didn't have one.
16:02 < dasunt_> The bike lane was 2-way traffic on an otherwise one way street.
16:03 < dasunt_> Oh, and there was a bus lane that was opposite of traffic.
16:03 < dasunt_> This worked out well.
16:03 <@Dagmar> I would also like it if the cyclists would pay attention to the direction of the fuckin' arrow in the bike lane
16:03 < eryc> i got doored once
16:03 < eryc> it was pretty shitty
16:03 < eryc> i'd say i was going to fast for conditions tho
16:03 < dasunt_> But club owners bitched about how people had to *gasp* walk to get to the bars, and thus we changed both streets to two way traffic.
16:03 < eryc> thats probably the case with more cycling accidents
16:03 < eryc> just because you can peddle full speed doesnt mean you should
16:04 <@Dagmar> I would say if they can't stop quickly, they need to slow down
16:04 < dasunt_> Dagmar: My pet peeve is the local people who like to ride without reflectors, without lights, and without regards to any stop signs at night.
16:04 <@Dagmar> At MTSU I could go from full-tilt to a dead stop in about 15 feet
16:04 <@Dagmar> ...because I would jump off the fucking bike and grab it by the frame.
16:04 < dasunt_> I think the highest speed I've been on my bike is about 35 or 40 mph.
16:05 < dasunt_> Highest speed I've been without going downhill is around 25 mph.
16:05 <@Dagmar> dasunt_: Yeah I've fussed at the frankenbike club kids here and they've reluctantly started scavenging reflectors and lights
16:05 < dasunt_> There's this great old guy on the combined use paths around here.  He's probably 60, big white beard.
16:05 <@Dagmar> Joey's eight foot tall monster is cool, but fucking dangerous at night
16:05 < dasunt_> Looks like Santa Claus.
16:05 < dasunt_> He rollerblades at a sustained 22 mph.
16:06 <@Dagmar> Nice
16:06 <@Dagmar> So if anything goes terribly wrong, the aftermath won't be his problem
16:06 < dasunt_> Keeping up with him on my bike, I get a good sweat.
16:06 <@Dagmar> He'll either blast through the obstacle or just burst like a stuffed sausage
16:06 < dasunt_> Dagmar: If someone kills him, I hope they aren't local.  He's pretty much a fixture on the path he likes.
16:07 <@Dagmar> I like the rollerblades I have but I hate the way the street makes them feel like they're trying to vibrate my feet off
16:09 < dasunt_> We have some pretty good paved paths around here.
16:09 < dasunt_> Segregated walk/bike in a lot of areas.
16:12 < dasunt_> One of them even has a divided bike path, one way on each path.
16:32 < eryc> are there water fountains with signs "joggers only"
16:34 <@Dagmar> That's so you know which ones to put speed in
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16:43 <@sdodson> hi
16:45 < Vyrus001> ok... i need 1 shmoo ticket if anybody's sellin
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16:48 <@Dagmar> heh
16:48 < eryc> cool story brah
16:48 < eryc> ^ fair use
16:48 <@sdodson> eryc: die die die!
16:49 < eryc> no u
16:49 < eryc> coil taught me everything i know about trollin
16:49 < eryc> haha
16:50 <@sdodson> usb is like 5v and < 500mw
16:51 <@sdodson> I think there's also a "really i'm just a charger masquerading as usb" mode which is like 1500mw
16:51 <@sdodson> %s/mw/mA/
16:51 < eryc> ohm fail
16:52 < eryc> plus like im sure google knows nothing about usb voltage
16:52 <@sdodson> My dad tried to explain ohms law to my uncle who bought a normal home theatre amp and wired it up to 12 speakers throughout his house and is wondering why it sounds like ass
16:53 < eryc> probably cuz he's playin leonard skynard thru it
16:53 <@sdodson> no way, my uncle is all metrosexual
16:54 <@Dagmar> Actually that's unsafe
16:54 <@Dagmar> USB isn't supposed to give more than 500mw without being asked to
16:54 <@Dagmar> @#$@$ 500mA
16:55 <@sdodson> gotcha!
16:55 < eryc> haha
16:55 <@Dagmar> I remember this because it's come up in #sparkfun before
16:55 < eryc> oh ur in there too
16:55 < eryc> heh
16:55 <@sdodson> okcupid is scraping the bottom of the barrel now, fat chicks that are 35+
16:55 <@Dagmar> For a device to get more than 500mA it has to actually "speak USB" a little bit in order to request the extra power from the bus
16:56 <@sdodson> ya, basically it has to short out two pins which puts it into charging only mode which is up to 1500mA but it can't send data at that time.
16:56 < eryc> ah fun
16:57 <@sdodson> i have a cold sore :(
16:57 <@sdodson> just glad it's nottatumah
16:57 < eryc> herpes
16:58 < eryc> told u not to kiss that dude at midnight
16:58 < eryc> the tranny
16:59 <@sdodson> eryc: my bad
17:03 <@sdodson> zomg i can play doom on my phone now!
17:03 <@sdodson> it's like 1997 all over again
17:03 <@sdodson> i mean 1993
17:20 < Todd> what phone did you get?
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17:27  * dasunt_ ponders.
18:58 < eryc> which one of y'all stole that coke machine
18:58 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwkVpE-zwMc
19:07 <@Dagmar> Wow.
19:08 <@Dagmar> YEah that was real subtle... flying past a parked cop with a rooster-tail of sparks flying up in your wake
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23:19 <@Jagobah> so
23:20 <@Jagobah> on new years eve my 1TB hard drive decided to fail
23:20 <@Jagobah> 2 hard drives in one year
23:20 <@Jagobah> feels bad man
23:20 <@Jagobah> anyone have HD experiences?
23:20 <@opticron> i've had WD and Maxtor fail on me
23:21 <@opticron> but to be fair, i think the Maxtor had been abused before I got it.
23:23 <@Dagmar> Well, let's see...
23:24 <@Dagmar> I'm about to be calling Seagate on Monday and sending them back a 500Gb and probably a 160Gb drive as well
23:24 <@Dagmar> It'll be the last fucking time I ever buy their stuff
23:26 <@opticron> damn...
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