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00:04 <@sdodson> ba dum shhhhh
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00:25 <@sdodson> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/InsideSystemStorage/entry/day4_solid_state_evolution20?lang=en Why does he say not to expect SSD to drastically reduce power/cooling?
00:25 <@sdodson> His numbers show that SSD uses half the power of HDD.
00:26 <@sdodson> (for same storage capacity)
00:27 < Mercster> so itll be a nice surprise
00:28 <@sdodson> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/12/11/mozilla-exec-urges-firefox-users-to-switch-to-bing
00:39 <@sdodson> http://www.theworldsbestever.com/2009/12/10/sushi-etiquette/  WTF is shit bullshit about wasabi? Wasabi is awesome, this author is just a pansy.
00:49 < Mercster> DO IT RIGHT
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11:07 < Todd> omghax
11:07 < Todd> Kid didn't want the benedryl last night so I put it in his bottle. He knew and regused to drink his bottle. Then he forgot and drank his bottle at like 6am and slept until 12pm.
11:07 < Todd> Holy hell I haven't slept this late in 3 years.
11:08 < Todd> I feel like a new man
11:09 <@sdodson> Todd: lets party !
11:10 <@sdodson> Wait, nevermind, you may try to drug me too.
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11:10 < Todd> You're not my type. :/
11:10 < Todd> If I'm risking jail time I like them under age.
11:12 < Todd> And I didn't just "drug" him. He's really sick.
11:12 < Todd> He was sleeping like shit.
11:12 <@sdodson> how old is he now? like 2yrs?
11:12 < Todd> He'll be 3 in June so, 2.5.
11:12 < Todd> I took him to the 2007 CarolinaCon when he was like 1.
11:13 < Todd> No wait.. 2008
11:13 < Todd> Yeah. I get confused because it's in March.
11:13 <@sdodson> ya
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11:13 <@sdodson> you going this year?
11:13 < Todd> Definitely but I'm working on Fri. and Sat. now until like 8pm
11:14 < Todd> So... *shrug* At least I got a job for now.
11:14 <@sdodson> where you working these days?
11:14 < Todd> Call center. I took the job when my unemp. was about to run out.
11:15 < Todd> For a call center it's not bad though. They're not nazi's. I sit at my cube with my laptop out and I can do whatever the hell I was as long as I take care of my calls.
11:15 < Todd> I have my first contract job coming up in a few days. A dentist's office.
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11:16 < Todd> My buddy is doing the wiring and he wants for me to configure the PBX.
11:16 < Todd> First side work I've picked up since I've been here.
11:18 <@sdodson> Todd: if you're working a call center you may as well come work for us!
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13:17 < Mercster> tiger tiger woods yall
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13:55 <@sdodson> Mercster: Are you misstress #16?
13:56 < Mercster> #18
13:56 <@sdodson> Mercster: cool, when is your interview with Nancy Grace?
13:56 < Mercster> im biding my time
13:57 < Mercster> i have to wait for the others to come out first
13:58 < xtort-> if I was tiger woods, id have spare bitches too
13:58 < onlngenius> can I be a mistress?
13:59 < Mercster> onlngenius: you can be my mistress
13:59 < Mercster> as long as sdodson wouldnt mind sharing me
13:59 < onlngenius> sweet. does that make me tigers 18.1
13:59 < onlngenius> ?
13:59 < Mercster> you are now in the circle of trust
14:00 < onlngenius> su weeet~
14:00 < onlngenius> /~/!/
14:04 < Mercster> s/~/\!/g
14:04 < Mercster> i like balls
14:06 < onlngenius> good
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14:21 <@sdodson> Man Schneier is all blogtastic.
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15:02 <@Dagmar> http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/free_lcd_tv.png
15:02 <@Dagmar> heheh
15:02 < Mercster> old
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15:38 <@Dagmar> Anyone in here on Comcast and getting their digital package?
15:39 <@Dagmar> Their website makes it look like Syfy would still be in analog
15:44 < fall0ut> They have Syfy in HD
15:44 <@Dagmar> Fucuuucked up
15:45 <@Dagmar> I just pulled up the very same info on Comcast's site and now it's showing a slew more channels
15:45 <@Dagmar> Thay have mad skills
15:45 <@Dagmar> fall0ut: So if you go digital you still get the extended basic analog channels?
15:45 < fall0ut> yea
15:45 < fall0ut> I have digital in 2 rooms
15:45 < fall0ut> and their analog shit eerywhere
15:45 <@Dagmar> Right okay *that* I can deal with
15:46 < fall0ut> Tivo has m cable-card and I have a shit moto box upstairs on the other TV
15:46 <@Dagmar> Any idea how much bullshit I'll be going through to get them to gimme a digital box with component analog output?
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15:47 <@Dagmar> Basically, I'm trying to avoid biting some Comcast rep's face off for trying to tell me that $16/month is a good idea for a shitty PVR I have no control over
15:48 <@Dagmar> I was kinda hostile to the one that showed up on my doorstep trying to flimflam me into paying twice as much a month
15:48 < fall0ut> I think any of their HD boxes have component out on them
15:48 <@Dagmar> This is understatement
15:48 <@Dagmar> heh
15:48 < fall0ut> Dealing with them and a cablecard is hell
15:48 < fall0ut> every time they do something, they break my cablecards provisioning
15:48 <@Dagmar> I can't believe you got a cablecard at all
15:48 < fall0ut> and they send someone out, we spend 3 hrs troubleshooting
15:48 < fall0ut> and they try 10 times to push a DVR on to me
15:49 < fall0ut> and I have to be a bitch etc
15:49 < fall0ut> all you ahve to do is ring'em up
15:49 < fall0ut> it's $2/mo
15:49 <@Dagmar> That I can definitely believe
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15:49 < fall0ut> Tivo is the way to go for a DVR
15:50 < fall0ut> screw trying to build a mythtv box
15:50 <@Dagmar> WEll, sucks for you that I already have one
15:50 < Mercster> mythtv is cake to setup
15:50 < fall0ut> Tivo justworks
15:50 <@Dagmar> TiVO doesn't export to the other machines in my house
15:50 < fall0ut> Tivo exports everything to my desktop
15:51 <@Dagmar> That's because you run Windows
15:51 < fall0ut> of course I do, I like to be productive :)
15:52 <@Dagmar> I prefer to keep my computers secure
15:52 < fall0ut> if I was going to build my own DVR, it'd be a windows media center one
15:52 < fall0ut> win7 media center + ati cablecard tuner
15:53 <@Dagmar> I prefer to retain my rights over what I record
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15:54 < Mercster> i kinda wish my desktop ran linux, cuz id make it a mythtv backend
15:54 < Mercster> but as it is, i have windows on the desktop and linux on the dell mini9
15:54 < Mercster> i like having both around
15:55 <@sdodson> Mercster: for what purposes do you use windows?
15:55 < Mercster> games, mostly
15:55 < Mercster> i mean, mostly irc and webbrowsing, but the reason it's windows is for the games
15:56 <@sdodson> ya, i rarely boot into fedora on my desktop at home because i'll end up rebooting into windows to play games
15:56 < Mercster> course i dont even play the games much
15:56 < Mercster> i should see if SF4 works in wine
15:56 <@sdodson> all i really need of an OS is the ability to run firefox and an ssh client.
15:56 <@sdodson> sf4?
15:56 < fall0ut> I don't game, but windows is just more useful on the desktop for me in general... I mainly just run chrome+putty anyway
15:57 < Mercster> street fighter 4
15:57 <@sdodson> don't be a googletard
15:57 < Mercster> wine app db says "garbage" :(
15:57 < Mercster> for as much as i play games, id install linux if sf4 worked in wine
15:57 < Mercster> but apparently it doesnt
15:57 <@sdodson> wine appdb says that everyhing is peachy for wow but it runs for shit
15:57 < fall0ut> nothing wrong with chrome
15:57 < Mercster> sdodson: i wouldnt say for shit, i played most of my hours on WoW in linux
15:58 < fall0ut> chrome is fhasssst
15:58  * Mercster uses chrome everywhere now
15:58 <@Dagmar> sdodson: check all the GL settings
15:58 <@sdodson> fuck you guys
15:58 < fall0ut> google already knows everything about me, anyway
15:58 < Mercster> WoW runs great in wine
15:58 < Mercster> in my experience
15:58 < Mercster> but i have other games i wanna play
15:58 < Mercster> like fable
15:58 <@Dagmar> Ubuntu likes to throw one in by default that plonks yer FPS down to about 10
15:58 <@sdodson> must be feodra
15:58 < Mercster> oblivion
15:58 < Mercster> sf4
15:58 < fall0ut> between chrome, google.com, gmail, and my droid...
15:58 <@Dagmar> ...just because some really old nVidia cards don't like a particular option, they turn it on for everything
15:59 <@sdodson> man you sheeple
15:59 < Mercster> i love google
15:59 < Mercster> i use chrome, and gmail for mail
15:59 < Mercster> i dont care
15:59 <@sdodson> FIGHT THE MAN!
15:59 < Mercster> hell i switched to google dns too
15:59 <@sdodson> RISE UP!
15:59 < Mercster> GOOGLE OWNS MY LIFE AND I KINDA LIKE IT
15:59 < fall0ut> at least I didn't go work there
15:59 < fall0ut> and my entire life WOULD revolve around google
15:59 <@sdodson> i know folks that work there
15:59 < Mercster> i do too
16:00 <@sdodson> they are onsite like 14 hours a day
16:00 < fall0ut> yea, so do I...
16:00 < Mercster> why not
16:00 < Mercster> their campuses are gorgeous
16:00 <@sdodson> i don't think the ones in atlanta are nice
16:00 < fall0ut> that's because 1bedroom apartments near the campus are outrageous, and google doesn't pay THAT well
16:00 <@sdodson> but i
16:00 <@sdodson> 've never been
16:00 < Mercster> i havent either
16:00 < Mercster> just seen pics/movies
16:00 <@sdodson> ok, i'll give wow a shot in wine now
16:00 < fall0ut> so it's either go to your shitty apartment, or stay at work
16:01 < Mercster> sdodson: i suggest you look at the wine app db and take the suggestions there
16:01 < Mercster> sdodson: it takes a bit of tweaking
16:01 <@sdodson> Mercster: i have
16:01 < Mercster> sdodson: but WoW can run just as well in wine as 'doze
16:01 <@sdodson> like wine wouldn't even start
16:01 < Mercster> perhaps better
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16:01 < Mercster> well, you did something wrong
16:01 < Mercster> cuz i have like 300 hours in wow
16:01 < Mercster> and at least 280 of those were in wine
16:01 < Mercster> and it ran smooth
16:01 < Mercster> 60fps
16:01 < Mercster> no problems
16:02 < Mercster> you DO have to tweak a bit tho
16:02 < Mercster> some registry crap
16:02 < Mercster> some wine settings crap
16:02 < Mercster> but once you get there, its smooth as silk
16:03 < Mercster> i dunno what you did wrong, cuz WoW is like, the poster child for programs that run awesome in wine
16:03 < Mercster> s/programs/games
16:03 < Mercster> TIGER STYLE
16:04 < Mercster> wu tang clan aint nuttin ta fuck wit
16:04 < Mercster> wu tang clan aint nuttin ta fuck wit
16:04 < fall0ut> 300 hours in wow?
16:04 < fall0ut> jesus christ
16:04 < fall0ut> I don't understand wow
16:04 < Mercster> i think i got that wrong
16:04 < Mercster> ill log in and check
16:04 < fall0ut> or the people who can play a game that much
16:04 < Mercster> its prolly more like 16 hours or something
16:04 < Mercster> but my point was
16:04 < Mercster> 90% of my WoW time has been in WINE
16:05 < Mercster> agh
16:05 < Mercster> patch download
16:05 <@Dagmar> How much time have you spent fapping in the last ten years?
16:05 <@Dagmar> little bit here, little bit there, it adds up
16:05 < Mercster> not long, im extremely quixck
16:06  * Mercster waits for WoW patch download
16:06 <@sdodson> Ok, i'm copying over wow now
16:07 < Mercster> iirc there's a reg tweak for the nvidia cards, and then a couple of things to set in wow.ini
16:07 < Mercster> for best performance
16:07 < Mercster> it should just go
16:07 < Mercster> really
16:07 < fall0ut> or you could just install windows and be done with it
16:08 <@sdodson> fall0ut: I think Evilpig said he has over 365 *DAYS* in wow
16:08 <@sdodson> fall0ut: i do, but Mercster is being a bitch so i'm going to give it another shot
16:08 < Mercster> well, listen, i sympathise with wanting linux. i get around easier in linux, i like the X/gnome gui better
16:08 < Mercster> just general purpose
16:08 < fall0ut> wow
16:08 < Mercster> but windows isnt horrible
16:08 <@Dagmar> Then again, he's been playing that game for the last five years
16:08 < fall0ut> over a year wasted
16:08 < Mercster> and it runs a lot of hames better
16:08 < Mercster> games
16:08 < Mercster> and hams
16:08 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Still, 1/5th of your life in wow?
16:08 < Mercster> my desktop must include ham
16:08 <@Dagmar> I accumulated about two days of "play" time in the last two weeks, just from leaving the client idle checking people's gear as they ran by
16:09 <@Dagmar> The /played command just shows how much time the client's been running
16:09 < Mercster> Dagmar: im totally not that kinda player, wanna see my wow armory profile?
16:09 <@sdodson> and you log out after 30 minutes of afk
16:09 <@Dagmar> If you scrape the auction house like we do, letting Auctioneer do it's thing can take 20-45m
16:09 < Mercster> for a 41 im sure im way underpowered
16:09 < Mercster> for gear
16:09 <@sdodson> so it's a pretty accurate sumation of the amount of time you've played.
16:09 <@Dagmar> sdodson: Beating AFK is not real hard
16:10 <@Dagmar> If you do it outside of a battleground, Blizz doesn't even care
16:10 < Mercster> here
16:10 <@sdodson> So why do you tards sit idle for hours on end?
16:10 < Mercster> everyone laugh at my gear http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arygos&n=Cremm
16:10 <@Dagmar> ...and it won't AFK you out while Auctioneer is running
16:10 <@sdodson> Mercster: can i laugh at your lame name?
16:10 < Mercster> no
16:11 <@Dagmar> Because gold buys LOOT
16:11 <@Dagmar> ...and the easiest way to get gold by far is to take it from the auction house
16:11 < Mercster> yeah i did learn thast
16:11 < Mercster> most my money is from auction house
16:11 <@sdodson> i don't auction
16:11 < Mercster> not hard to make cash there
16:11 <@Dagmar> This requires you let some statistics addons pore over the thing on a regular basis while you go do things like, shower and brush
16:12 <@Dagmar> Do you have the motorcycle?
16:12 <@sdodson> Right, but it doesn't take hours.
16:12 <@Dagmar> The fine children of Skywall paid for mine
16:12 <@sdodson> Anyway, I think you're side stepping the point here.
16:12 <@Dagmar> Not really
16:12 <@Dagmar> How many hours have you logged on IRC in the past five years?
16:13 <@sdodson> i don't know
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16:14 <@sdodson> Do you want to include the time i spend at work?
16:15 <@sdodson> [World of Warcraft] Failed to find a suitable display device. Exiting Program.
16:15 <@Dagmar> Ouch
16:15 < Mercster> wait wait
16:15 < Mercster> waaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiit
16:15 < Mercster> ko hang on a second
16:15 <@Dagmar> Man you _know_ Wilbur just leaves his client idling while he does stuff on other displays
16:16 < Mercster> sdodson: i know what you need
16:16 < Mercster> sdodson: hang on one sec
16:16 < Mercster> sdodson: since you cant follow wine app db directions, ill find it for you
16:16 <@sdodson> Mercster: Good.
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16:17 < Mercster> sdodson: in your wow.ini, put
16:17 < Mercster> SET gxAPI "OpenGL"
16:17 < Mercster> WoW is trying to run in directX mode
16:17 < R3d2Dawn> How many of you use some kind of antimalware, more refering to those who use windows
16:17 <@Dagmar> Comodo
16:18 <@Dagmar> ...although it's whitelist has a rather spectacular failure state lurking in the wings, it works
16:18 < Mercster> R3d2Dawn: i just run the recent windows security essentials stuff
16:18 < Mercster> sdodson: you get that, slappy?
16:19 < R3d2Dawn> Dagmar, do you really feel it is necessary to use one or would be commonsense to use?
16:19 <@sdodson> Mercster: i don't have a wow.ini where's it go?
16:19 < Mercster> R3d2Dawn: have you installed microsoft security essentials?
16:20 <@Dagmar> If you shoudl ever be so unlucky as to have the computer reboot while it's updating it's tables...
16:20 < R3d2Dawn> Not for my self, I have for a customer of mine.
16:20 <@Dagmar> You get to uninstall the fucker
16:20 <@Dagmar> R3d2Dawn: It's not for the average user, by any means
16:20 <@Dagmar> The whitelist is CONSTANTLY asking you about stuff
16:21 < Mercster> sdodson: sorry
16:21 < Mercster> sdodson: its Config.wtf
16:21 < Mercster> sdodson: been awhile since i did this
16:21 < Mercster> edit Config.wtf, add SET gxAPI "OpenGL"
16:22 <@sdodson> Mercster: nope
16:22 < Mercster> WTF/Config.wtf
16:24 <@sdodson> Mercster: Right, I've done that, it doesn't fix it.
16:24 < R3d2Dawn> I have been in a discussion with some guys over usage of antimalware or in my case the lack there of, well sort of. I bascially have two machines (main & spare / sandbox) with the main I do not download / access sites that would in most cases be considered unsafe. I also do not download files using the main one.. I use my spare pc with windows steady state to view / download from sites.
16:25 < Mercster> sdodson: did you go into wine config and set 3D accel on?
16:25 < Mercster> well, listen, i did it for a year or more, so if me + the wine app db cant help you, i dunno
16:25 < Mercster> its rated as goldd/platinum for a reason
16:25 < R3d2Dawn> So if with the spare if something goes wrong, I reboot and all is lost.
16:25 < Mercster> cuz thousands of people use it
16:25 < Mercster> i dunno what to tell you
16:26 <@sdodson> Mercster: it looks like it's not possible with 64bit OS
16:26 < Mercster> ah well, yeah, that may be a problem
16:26 < Mercster> i dunno
16:26 < Mercster> ive only ever run it 32bit
16:27 < Mercster> is there a reason you're running 64bit linux?
16:27 <@sdodson> Because I've got 4GB of RAM and only half my ram slots populated there's a good chance I'll go above 4gb
16:27 < Mercster> k
16:27 < Mercster> guess yer fucked
16:28 <@sdodson> i see ubuntu forums poeple talking about it running in 64bit
16:28 < Mercster> dont say i didnt try
16:28 < Mercster> as i said, WoW is pretty much the poster child for "awesome games that run perfectly in wine"
16:28 < Mercster> so if yer having that much trouble, there's a gap somewhere
16:29 < Mercster> maybe its 64bit OS, i dunno
16:29 <@sdodson> i understand all this
16:29 <@sdodson> i played wow in wine for a while
16:30 < Mercster> k
16:31 < Mercster> yer running binary drivers right?
16:31 < Mercster> nvidia?
16:32 <@sdodson> Oh you mena i need 3d support for this shit to work?
16:32  * Mercster stares
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16:35 < Mercster> i dunno if yer joking or not, either way im done with this convo
16:35 < Mercster> DONE BABY
16:35 < Mercster> OVER AND DONE
16:36 < Mercster> meanwhile im evaluating my windows usage and kinda thinking about installing linux to get mythtv
16:36  * Mercster fidgets
16:36 <@sdodson> why mythtvb
16:36 <@sdodson> Do you record video?
16:36 <@sdodson> DVR seems sort of 2004 these days.
16:36 < Mercster> i would appreciate some DVR action
16:36 < Mercster> sometimes there's 2 things on at the same time i wanna watch
16:36 <@sdodson> everyone i know just torrents shit or newsgroups it
16:37 <@sdodson> which i think is pathetic but oh well
16:37 < R3d2Dawn> Dagmar, would you really recommend Comodo?
16:37 < Mercster> plus i could record shit id wanna watch while im sleeping
16:37 <@Dagmar> Not for a "client"
16:37 <@Dagmar> Not in a million years
16:37 < Mercster> sdodson: eh, i dont feel like searching out for shit like that
16:37 < Mercster> DVR is nice to have
16:37 <@sdodson> Mercster: apparently it's super easy
16:37 < Mercster> wake up, bam, things in the queue to watch
16:37 <@Dagmar> For a geek that knows what they're doing, it's the first thing I've seen with solid whitelist functionality for Windows
16:37 < Mercster> what, downloading shows? i know
16:37 <@sdodson> Mercster: Occassionally these people do make it sound like it's more work than it's worth.
16:37 < Mercster> i have usenet access
16:37 < Mercster> 300+ day retention
16:37 < Mercster> DVR is easier tho
16:38 < Mercster> i doubt usenet has everything id wanna see
16:38 < Mercster> for instance, an old movie might be on one of the encores that i wanna see
16:38 < Mercster> noone's rushing to populate usenet with the kind of stuff i usually watch
16:39 < Mercster> i dont watch heroes and lost and the office and my name is earl and dollhouse and all that other shit that people watch
16:39 < Mercster> i watch mostly documentaries and old movies
16:39 < Mercster> so DVR is what i want
16:39 < R3d2Dawn> I will have to give it a try. I have never actually used Comodo before. I have tried many others though (Avast, Avira, Norton/Symantec, McAfee, ZoneAlarm, ClamAV, and  a few others)
16:40 <@sdodson> well, now wow runs but crashes
16:40 <@Dagmar> Just know that if you have a power failure at the wrong time, Windows may stop letting you run *anything* anymore
16:40 < R3d2Dawn> Odd you mention that
16:40 <@Dagmar> At that point you pretty much have to boot into safe mode to remove it, and then reboot to normal mode to reinstall it
16:41 < Mercster> sdodson: i aint judging you, but WoW is currently rated "platinum" on the wine app db. plus ive had it working for years. so, you're doing something wrong
16:41 < R3d2Dawn> I have a freind whos network, since a power failure, the computers are no longer allowing eacher to connect
16:41 < Mercster> or, 64bit is impossible
16:41 < Mercster> i dunno
16:41 < R3d2Dawn> They can see each other but not gain access
16:41 <@sdodson> Mercster: i didn't have 32bit libraries for nvidia drivers installed
16:41 < Mercster> sdodson: but your subjective experience here doesnt mean anything, cuz everyone else is doing it :)
16:41 < Mercster> sdodson: nod
16:42 < Mercster> im just sayin
16:42 < Mercster> its entirely possible
16:42 <@Dagmar> I've given up trying to figure out WTF goes on inside Windows boxes with SMB filesharing
16:42 < R3d2Dawn> I am suppose to look at the system tomorrow, but that was what was described to me
16:42 < R3d2Dawn> LOL,
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16:42 <@Dagmar> It's so fucked up it's sad
16:42 <@Dagmar> I get better performance to and from Samba than I ever have with just about any Windows to Windows connection
16:43 <@Dagmar> The damn things like to occasionally just refuse to see each other at all
16:44 <@Dagmar> My favorite is the "it's doing god knows what" delay that sometimes happens when you try to connect to a new host
16:44 <@Dagmar> ...or any host at all
16:44 < Mercster> sdodson: about this time last year, i probably could have troubleshooted you through it alll
16:44 < Mercster> sdodson: but i havent run wow in wine for awhile
16:44 < Mercster> so im all crusty
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16:45 < Mercster> example, i didnt remember the name of the config file
16:45 < R3d2Dawn> Thanks for mentioning Samba, I will have to look into that for them.
16:45 <@Dagmar> I've been shopping for GigE stuff today
16:46 <@Dagmar> I'm starting to get unamused at the transfer times of 100base-T now that I have the fileserver up and running and I'm trying to copy Gbs of stuff back and forth
16:46 < R3d2Dawn> what have you found so far
16:46 < R3d2Dawn> during your shopping
16:47 <@Dagmar> That I'm looking at spending about the same thing I did when I moved up to 100base-T.
16:47 <@Dagmar> 'bout fiddy bucks for a switch, and just under twenny for each NIC
16:47 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Wait a year and go straight for 10gb?
16:47 < Mercster> i miss the earth so much, i miss my wife...
16:47 < Mercster> on such a tiiiiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIMELESS FLIGHT...
16:47 <@Dagmar> sdodson: That won't run over cat6 cables?
16:47 <@Dagmar> Maybe?
16:48 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Ya, i think the length limits are really short, like 100' rather than 100m
16:48 <@Dagmar> Either way, that's not really cheap enough yet
16:48 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm annoyed with the transfer speeds _now_, not a year from now
16:48 <@Dagmar> A year from now I'll have just moved the damn drives back into my desktop
16:48 <@Dagmar> heh
16:49 <@Dagmar> 100' would be more than enough distance for me, since my longest cabled run is like, 10 feet.
16:49 <@Dagmar> ...not counting the two 25" cables in the den for traveling non-wireless laptops
16:53 <@sdodson> Well, it'll probably end up being 2-3 years before 10gb is commodity.
16:53 <@sdodson> It's still a premium feature on server gear, but fairly cheap. like $300-$500 upgrade.
16:54 <@sdodson> Though it won't become default until 10gb over UTP becomes more common.
16:57 <@sdodson> Why is polerin the only person with a link to a full photo on the irc stats?
16:58 <@Dagmar> The rest of us are better at hiding from cameras
17:00 < Mercster> hmm
17:00 < Mercster> fuckin wow
17:00 < Mercster> LUA errors when i start up
17:01 < Mercster> the worst thing about WoW isnt the grinding, its the keeping up with addons
17:01 < Mercster> and figuring out why the most updated versions you have still produce errors
17:01 <@sdodson> Mercster: try it in wine!
17:01 < Mercster> its an addon thing
17:01 <@sdodson> Mercster: there are tools to get around that
17:01 <@sdodson> Mercster: like the curse client and stuff
17:02 <@sdodson> just be sure to use a bs password for it
17:02 < Mercster> i have an updater
17:02 < Mercster> it works for about half my addons
17:02 < Mercster> fuckin clusterfuck
17:03 <@sdodson> make it workf or the other half
17:05 < Mercster> trying curse client now
17:06 < Mercster> obtuse and complicated, but seems to be working
17:06 < Mercster> thzx
17:06 < Mercster> when it fucks me up ill blame you
17:06  * Mercster shakes sdodson's hand
17:06 <@sdodson> Mercster: cool, can't wait
17:06 <@sdodson> Mercster: be sure you use your social security number as the password
17:07 < Mercster> i used a shit password
17:08 < Mercster> this definitley has more updates than the update thing i was using before
17:10 <@Dagmar> Fucking LOVING CNN today
17:10 <@sdodson> hmm, maybe i'll update to fedora 12 now that i know it's not just related to fedora's version of x
17:10 <@sdodson> i sort of assumed the wow problem was just that the version of x was too new
17:10 <@Dagmar> I'm sitting here trying to eat and they start talking about and showing interview clips of the woman who had her face torn off by that chimp
17:11 <@sdodson> Dagmar: you can't unzip your pants while eating?
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17:19 < Mercster> ugh
17:19 < Mercster> addons are such a pita
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17:21 <@sasquatc4> wow, thats always a good sign about a project when people are doing things for no real reason other than they think they need to
17:21 < Mercster> sdodson: good news is, curse client updated me to where i dont get LUA errors. bad news is, WoW reports half my shit out of date now, and some of the stuff has changed so much i cant tell wtf is going on
17:22 <@sasquatc4> some group made a distribution and set of tools for plug computers, and one of their selling points is that it was compiled natively on a plug itself
17:22 < Mercster> id probably play WoW more if the addons werent such a PITA
17:22 <@sdodson> Mercster: just don't use many
17:22 < Mercster> i dont use a whole shitload
17:22 <@sasquatc4> when i asked why, since it makes no sense when you can crosscompile in much less time, they said oh, what you get when you crosscompile isnt exactly the same binary and may run slower or not run at all
17:23 < Mercster> 10 maybe
17:23 <@Dagmar> So, depending on their tone, it might be time to embarras them a bit
17:23 <@Dagmar> ...because that's some fragrant bullshit
17:23 <@sasquatc4> yea, im just tryin to restrain myself
17:24 <@sasquatc4> but really, why would anyone think you would end up with anything different, its translating code to other code, doesnt freakin matter where you do it, it wont wind up any different
17:24 < Mercster> bagnon, bartender, cartographer, totem timers, simpleminimap, prat, gymnast, titan panel, lightheaded
17:24 <@sdodson> Good thing Dagmar can never restrain himself, he'll take care of this.
17:24 <@Dagmar> There are people out there who secretly believe that computers are organic in nature.
17:24 <@sdodson> Mercster: what do you play?
17:24 < Mercster> sdodson: ?
17:25 <@sdodson> oh you're a shaman
17:25 < Mercster> yeah troll shaman
17:25 < Mercster> ag_unitframes
17:25 < Mercster> buffalo
17:25 < Mercster> clearfont2
17:26 < Mercster> thats about it
17:26 <@sdodson> how do i get dual spec?
17:26 < Mercster> i dunno, im WoW dumb
17:27 < Mercster> i figured out how to use addons so my interface is nice, but really im pretty experienced, and i only have one character
17:27 < Mercster> and its a level 41 troll shaman
17:28 <@Dagmar> Pay 1,000g.
17:30 < Mercster> wat
17:30 < Mercster> oh
17:47 < eryc> sup
17:55 <@Dagmar> Man this is sad
17:56 <@Dagmar> Galanos has two people on his show arguing about whether or not "Jersey Shore" is racist
17:56 <@Dagmar> The man complaining that it *is* a bad stereotype is sitting there looking like a fucking low level mafia boss
17:56 <@Dagmar> Suit, light tie, bad hair, fat, etc
17:56 <@Dagmar> Even shaking his neck
17:56 <@Dagmar> ROFL
18:27 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Stop watching cable news.
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20:20 <@sdodson> gotta get paid !
20:22 <@dasunt> http://thereifixedit.com/2009/12/13/heavy-duty-chrome-plated-wirenut/
20:26 <@sdodson> a warm cat is much more effective than my fleece blanket
20:26 < Mercster> try my warm balls on your chin
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21:28 < eryc> nom nom
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22:35 < R3d2Dawn> Maybe some one else might like this : http://www.kirkhammotorsports.com/book_aoe/
22:36 < R3d2Dawn> The ultimate Roadster
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23:29 <@sdodson> hi
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23:42 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u28doz1rjM4
23:44 <@sdodson> http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog26/presentations/stephen.pdf "Why use Free Software? ... Insert other usual foam-at-mouth reasons here" :)
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23:54 < eryc> heh
23:54 < eryc> lame
23:55 < eryc> when all your network policies end with "send mail".. you're doing it wrong.
23:55 <@sdodson> eryc: i didn't read it, atleast not all 47 slides
23:56 <@sdodson> I dunno, archiving everything to a mailing list is handy albeit archaic
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23:58 < eryc> *shrug* i just read it all
23:59 < eryc> it basically says: use rancid and try mktop if you're bored
23:59 < eryc> rancid is a steaming pile of shit
23:59 <@sdodson> i've heard of rancid
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