--- Log opened Sat Nov 21 00:00:32 2009
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00:29 < sdodson> Dagmar: what's SCOM?
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00:37 < Todd> shit apparentlyu
00:55 < Mercster> i took a scom earlier
01:02 < Mercster> "i swear dat boy got nigga blood in him somewhere"
01:02 < Mercster> wrong window
01:07 <@Dagmar> sdodson: Server Center Operations Manager or some shit
01:07 <@Dagmar> It's Microsoft's entirely sketchtacular remote service monitor
01:07 <@Dagmar> ...and unlike other monitoring systems which show an alert when something goes down, and which make the alert go away when the service is working again...
01:08 <@Dagmar> ...APPARENTLY it's entirely random whether or not the fucking interface makes the error disappear from the screen when the error that caused it goes away.
01:20 <@Evilpig> it never makes an error go away.  someone has to clear it, always
01:20 <@Dagmar> I may have to scalp me some windows admins then.
01:21 < Mercster> having to clear it sounds like good policy to me
01:21 <@Evilpig> the reason you have to clear it is because it has an error tracking / history log to it
01:21 < Mercster> right
01:22 <@Evilpig> in an ideal situation you're supposed to update the details in there about the error then close it.  not sure if they do that or not for every error that pops up
01:22 < Mercster> it could be some chronic thing, time of day dependant or otherwise, that needs to be addressed
01:22 < Mercster> maybe the alert status could be ratcheted down
01:22 < Mercster> but it shouldnt go away completely
01:22 <@Dagmar> Yeah but we're not putting anything in there
01:22 <@Evilpig> once you acknowledge the alert it stops makinga  racket
01:23 <@Dagmar> Yeah but it'll stay on the screen
01:24 <@Dagmar> SCOM not behaving like the other monitoring systems isn't a lot of fun
01:24 <@Dagmar> ...and @#$@ by now you'd think one of the Windows admins could have bothered to mention that tidbit.
01:24 <@Dagmar> Now I'm going to have to find out why they're clearing errors without telling us
01:24 <@Evilpig> we've had that for 6 months+ you haven't noticed that by now?
01:25 <@Dagmar> No, because _most_ of the time they tell us they'll fix it, and it disappears because apparently they'er clearing it themselves.
01:25 <@Dagmar> Some of them are clearing it, some of them aren't.
01:26 <@Dagmar> We call the on-call and they act like we're idiots
01:26 < Mercster> thats a personnel problem
01:26 < Mercster> the error should be resolved, or the monitoring software shouldnt alert on it
01:26 < Mercster> then other problems go away
01:27 <@Dagmar> Mercster: You can "clear" errors in the other two systems without the error actually going awya.
01:27 <@Dagmar> This is why I've not even _tried_ to do that in SCOM.
01:27 <@Dagmar> If I did it in Nagios or Spectrum, and hours later someone noticed the whatever was still down, there would be _hell_ to pay
01:29 <@Dagmar> So, we've been assuming that if it's still on the screen, whatever it is is still fucked up
01:30 <@Dagmar> Wilpig: I can just about promise you that this will be news to Pat, and possibly Warren as well
01:30 <@Evilpig> at times I think you can tell notlarry that water is wet and it would be news to him
01:31 <@Dagmar> yes, this would be because we probably had a manager tell us that water was dry two days previous.
01:32 <@Dagmar> Clearly another unnanounced new policy is that we're supposed to never assume anything works even remotely like that which it replaced, or things performing a similar duty, and we're not going to get any training to we'd better go read up on it ourselves.
01:32 <@Dagmar> Magic Service Desk being an excellent example of that
01:52 <@Evilpig> http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=7122919
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05:13 < Mercster> "well, shall we go?"  "yes, let's go"
05:21 < Mercster> "well, what do we do, now that we're happy?"  "wait for godot!"
05:35 < Mercster> how time flies when one has fun
05:58 < Mercster> weird, wasnt my fault afterall
05:58 < Mercster> i know for damn sure i set 16:9 this time, and it still ended up stretched to 4:3
05:58 < Mercster> wonder why
06:06 < Mercster> dammit, wrong window again
07:06 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: yeah, I still go to the same place.
07:09 < fie> m0j0-j0j0,
07:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> fie.
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09:36 <@polerin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7HZf7k2gTo  **snerk**
09:52 < fie> Yeah :(
09:53 < fie> THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL HOUSE
09:55 <@polerin> damnit fie.
09:55 <@polerin> now I have to listen to that
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10:48 < fie> polerin, It's great :>
10:48  * fie chops his arm.
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11:16 <@Dagmar> This is NOT my beautiful wife!
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11:56 < sdodson> polerin: dude, you gotta go to India, it's awesome.
12:00 < sdodson> my forehead is covered in pimples :(
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15:56 < sdodson> hi
15:56 < coil> hi
15:56 < sdodson> coil: what you up to?
15:57 < sdodson> coil: you always seem to be online
15:57 < coil> cuddling with bf
15:57 < coil> sdodson: that's the beauty of laptops bro
15:57 < sdodson> coil: bf?
15:57 < coil> yes
15:57 < sdodson> coil: I'd say that's a downside.
15:57 < coil> were trying to decide on where to eat
15:57 < sdodson> coil: Why do you want tobe on IRC all the time.
15:58 < coil> maybe for you but i love you still
15:58 < coil> sdodson: to pick up the links of course
15:58 < sdodson> coil: there are better ways fort hat
15:58 < sdodson> you can just look at logs and click on shit
15:58 < coil> but 0% effort with a url cacher
15:59 < sdodson> coil: right, but why's that require *YOU* to always be online
15:59 < coil> i have nothing better todo ok
16:00 <@m0j0-j0j0> coil: what area are u in?
16:01 < coil> what
16:01 < coil> area?
16:01 < coil> im in flordia
16:01 <@m0j0-j0j0> ... what area
16:01 <@m0j0-j0j0> might be able to make a good recommendation
16:02 < coil> orlando
16:02 < sdodson> Eat at Disney Land!
16:02 <@m0j0-j0j0> there's a place called "the underground"
16:03 < coil> that's california
16:03 < coil> wheres that m0j0-j0j0
16:03 <@m0j0-j0j0> it's in Lakeland, but it's all right there
16:03 < coil> way too far away
16:04 < coil> is it a sports bar?
16:04 <@m0j0-j0j0> coil: it's actually a bar below a 5 star restaurant.
16:04 <@m0j0-j0j0> really great food
16:04 < coil> cool
16:04 < sdodson> I need to go find dinner.
16:04 < coil> its an hr 1/2 away though
16:05 < coil> im hungry nowwwwwwwwww
16:05 <@m0j0-j0j0> Holiday House is on the other side of Orlando
16:06 <@m0j0-j0j0> Angel's diner is right near OBT
16:06 <@m0j0-j0j0> always good food and near the bars
16:11 <@m0j0-j0j0> (actually it's off the Lake Ivanhoe exit on i4, but only about a mile from OBT
16:12 <@m0j0-j0j0> I used to party on OBT like it was 1999, but then again.. it was 1999 so...
16:12 < coil> lol
16:12 < coil> prolly by international drive
16:16 <@m0j0-j0j0> I tried to stay at the end with the Howard Johnson usually.  I think that's the other end of OBT than I-drive
16:18 <@m0j0-j0j0> I hear they finally destroyed the trailer park in that area and replaced it with timeshare condos
16:53 < sdodson> 7http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Oj0-splZw straight gangsta
17:00 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: its a gang
17:05 <@m0j0-j0j0> naked ceiling fan installation teams and the women with cats who get hot for them, next on mojo-radio.
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18:58 < R3d2Dawn> anyone here into cryptography?
18:59 < R3d2Dawn> has anyone heard of the Kryptos?
18:59 < sdodson> R3d2Dawn: Fher, ner lbh?
19:00 < R3d2Dawn> have you tried taking a crack at the remaining part of the code?
19:00 < sdodson> R3d2Dawn: You should read about Elonka's Kryptos stuff. Check it out http://elonka.com/kryptos/
19:00 < sdodson> fuck, copied the wrong part
19:01 < sdodson> R3d2Dawn: Lbh fubhyq ernq nobhg Rybaxn'f Xelcgbf fghss. Purpx vg bhg uggc://rybaxn.pbz/xelcgbf/
19:01 < R3d2Dawn> I have reading up on that part and the origional letters by David Stein
19:02 < R3d2Dawn> recommend any good books?
19:02 < sdodson> check out Elonka's link. I don't know anything about Kryptos. aestetix may know more
19:04 < R3d2Dawn> I have been reading it! However they where not as useful as Realm Of Twelve and Stein's article on cracking the majority of it.
19:04 < R3d2Dawn> Its pretty interesting stuff.
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20:07 <@m0j0-j0j0> any of you ATL folks in touch with NAI/NAS folks?
20:15 < sdodson> NAI/NAS?
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20:46 < sdodson> What are doing for manned space travel after the shuttle program?
20:48 <@polerin> one use capsules on a rocket
20:48 <@polerin> or rather
20:48 <@polerin> reusable capsules, one use rocket
20:48 <@polerin> I think
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20:48 < Mercster> the plan was for little capsules on the top of ares rockets
20:48 < Mercster> 'constellation'
20:48 < Mercster> but it seems up in the air
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20:49 < Mercster> now they're talking about using the space shuttle rockets to save time and money
20:49 < Mercster> i dont think anyone knows currently
20:50 < Mercster> the one constant seems to be apollo-style capsules
20:52 <@opticron> we should have just stuck with the saturn V
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20:58 < sdodson> Obama is not happy with the bill for it apparently.
20:59 < sdodson> Why can't we design better shit than they did in the 60s?
20:59 < sdodson> I mean those neanderthals were smoking in the control center back then.
21:00 < Mercster> well you have to remember, all that stuff in the 60s was faked
21:00 <@m0j0-j0j0> they landed a man on the moon with less computing power than I have in my off brand mp3 player
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21:01 <@m0j0-j0j0> shouldn't we have evidence of the flag on the moon from an observatory by now?
21:02 < sdodson> http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekwe/multimediafinal.html
21:03 <@opticron> m0j0-j0j0, also faked
21:03 < sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: Is that factually correct?
21:03 <@opticron> :D
21:03 < sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: your mp3 player
21:03 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: *nod*
21:03 < sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: based on what?
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21:06 <@m0j0-j0j0> The lander module had 16k
21:06 <@m0j0-j0j0> my old mp3 player is a gig
21:06 < sdodson> Storage != computing power
21:07 < Mercster> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
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21:09 < Mercster> Frequency	2.048 MHz
21:09 < Mercster> Memory	16-bit words, 2048 words RAM (magnetic core memory), 36864 words ROM (core rope memory)
21:13 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'm going to go to the moon on my mp3 player
21:15 <@m0j0-j0j0> I don't like that the only reason I hear as to why we've not gone back and started doing something productive with the moon is $$
21:16 <@m0j0-j0j0> I know that other issues exist
21:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> but money is the only one that you ever here about and I think that we could find people that wouldn't mind getting sent to the moon in less than the absolute best ship for very little money.  According to the URL sdodson sent out a minute ago theres 1 county in the country that has less than 1.9% unemployment.
21:22 < sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: who's that?
21:23 <@m0j0-j0j0> *shrug* it's the only white area on that us map you sent out a little while ago
21:31 < sdodson> WTF do carbon offsets actually do? My power company is trying to sell me them.
21:32 < Mercster> you see the recent news story about a bunch of climate change emails being hacked and published on the net?
21:32 < Mercster> A partial review of the emails shows that in many cases, climate scientists revealed that their own research wasn't always conclusive. In others, they discussed ways to paper over differences among themselves in order to present a "unified" view on climate change. On at least one occasion, climate scientists were asked to "beef up" conclusions about climate change and extreme weather events because environmental officials in one country were planning a "b
21:32 < Mercster> ig public splash."
21:32 < Mercster> Fellow scientists who disagreed with orthodox views on climate change were variously referred to as "prats" and "utter prats." In other exchanges, one climate researcher said he was "very tempted" to "beat the crap out of" a prominent, skeptical U.S. climate scientist.
21:32 < sdodson> Mercster: Wait, I thought everyone concluded that was a hoax?
21:33 < Mercster> no?
21:34 < Mercster> In several of the emails, climate researchers discussed how to arrange for favorable reviewers for papers they planned to publish in scientific journals. At the same time, climate researchers at times appeared to pressure scientific journals not to publish research by other scientists whose findings they disagreed with.
21:34 < Mercster> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125883405294859215.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
21:34 < Mercster> from today
21:39 < sdodson> damn i'm broke
21:39 < sdodson> Mercster: gimme money
21:39 < Mercster> im broke too
21:39 < Mercster> find someone else to give you money, then give me some of it
21:39 < Mercster> let's work together
21:40 < Mercster> let's face it, climate chan^W^W I am everyone's problem
21:44 < sdodson> brimstone: did you say that you were using cluster?
21:46 < sdodson> brimstone: I meant gluster
21:47 < Mercster> ulster unionist
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21:52 < ware> http://se2600.org/ircstats/
21:52 < ware> lol why am i still the top talker
21:52 < ware> "im 99% gangsta and want to know what shes gonna do!"
21:53 < Mercster> im creepin up on brimstone
21:54 < Mercster> it's only a matter of sweet, sweet time
21:59 < ware> sweet, sweet time
22:00 < ware> i used to wreck hell in here all the time tho.  i was a shit head drunk
22:01 < Mercster> still more than twice my # of lines
22:01 < sdodson> I was hoping to drop out of the top 10 but oh well.
22:02 < sdodson> ware: you still are
22:02 < sdodson> imean looka t your photo you're holding beerz
22:07 <@polerin> jeesus
22:07 <@polerin> I stop talking for like 10 months
22:07 <@polerin> and I'm still in the top 15
22:08 < Mercster> stay the course
22:08 < Mercster> a thousand points of light
22:08 < Mercster> read my lips...
22:10 <@brimstone> sdodson: yeah, a while back, not anymore though
22:10 <@brimstone> had disk io issues, it was laggin'
22:15  * polerin is about done coding for the day
22:17 < sdodson> brimstone: Do you think it'd work well for a global namespace plus local cache scenario?
22:18 < sdodson> ie: data comes into Los Angeles site and is primarilly used there, but you have a New York site that does a small amount of processing so you set up a gluster node there so that if the NYC site needs anything it's basically cached on first access?
22:19 < sdodson> Man, pNFS is an interesting project. It's very interesting to see EMC, NetApp, and some company called Panasas working on the same technologies when they're all essentially competitors of each other.
22:21 < Mercster> According to defense attorney John Galligan, Hasan is paralyzed from the chest down, is incontinent and "in severe pain."
22:21 < Mercster> loooool
22:23 < ware> sdodson: im not anywhere near what i used to be like
22:23 < ware> even when im hammered :)
22:23 < ware> sleep time! today was teh first day i stayed awake all day (no nappin) since my wreck
22:24 < ware> means im getting my energy back! woot
22:24 < Mercster> night ware
22:24 <@polerin> actually
22:24 <@polerin> I have to say I'm sorta going to have to agree with ware
22:25 <@polerin> he's nothing like he used to be.. I've only been tempted to kick him like 3 or 4 times in the past month, instead of the 30-40 times
22:25 <@polerin> :P
22:29 < Mercster> SNL time
22:48 < sdodson> peanut butter jelly time
22:49 <@CRasH180> Peanut butter jelly with a baseball bat
22:49 <@polerin> sdodson: damnit I hate you
22:49 <@polerin> now that's stuck in my head
22:50  * polerin fights it with basement jaxx
22:50 <@CRasH180> Some people at my office did that and everyone had it stuck in their heads. We were not very happy
22:54 <@brimstone> sdodson: maybe, but drbd might do better/faster
22:57 <@polerin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fopsRtC-M4
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23:32 < Goat> Hello everybody
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23:32 <@dasunt> Hello goat.
23:32  * dasunt is hating.
23:32 < Guest67525> Heya
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23:34 < Goat21> Whats goin on?
23:35 <@dasunt> Nothing much.
23:35 <@dasunt> How about you?
23:36 < Goat21> Working my ass off
23:36 < Goat21> same old
23:37 <@dasunt> Doing what?
23:45 < sdodson> Mercster: speaking of which i just downloaded that torrent with the climate change emails
23:46 < Mercster> oh yeah
23:46 < sdodson> Mercster: /usr/include/linux/kvm.h
23:47 < sdodson> Mercster: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5171206
23:47 < sdodson> http://failblog.org/2009/11/07/career-fair-fail/
23:47 < Mercster> cool
23:48 <@dasunt> sdodson: Anything good?
23:49 < Mercster> dasunt: not if you're dedicated to the earth-is-gonna-burst-into-flames schtick
23:49 < sdodson> dasunt: tldr
23:50 <@dasunt> Okay.
23:51 < sdodson> The only two i've opened look like ooo autoresponses
23:52 < Mercster> speaking of, i prolly need to install ooo for a lot of these docs
23:52 < Mercster> or move them to the mini
23:52 < Mercster> but i dont see that happening
23:52 < sdodson> out of the office i means
23:52 < Mercster> ah
23:53 < Mercster> yeah the ooo had me like "waaah"
23:53 < Mercster> but, there are a bunch of .docs
23:53 < sdodson> is snl still on?
23:53 < Mercster> yeah
23:53 < sdodson> ok, going to go watch, later.
23:53 < Mercster> one more skit, prolly
23:53 < Mercster> you're a bit late
23:53 < Mercster> this episode didnt totally suck, but it wasnt great
23:53 < Mercster> last week was fucking fantastic
23:54 < Mercster> best episode of the season, easily
23:55 < Mercster> digital short
23:55 < Mercster> oh, maybe not
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