--- Log opened Mon Nov 16 00:00:11 2009 --- Day changed Mon Nov 16 2009 00:00 -!- droops [n=erickson@74.193.239.242] has joined #se2600 00:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o droops] by ChanServ 00:08 -!- Merc0 [n=merc@71.203.233.192] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:41 < eryc> http://www.lynxmotion.com/images/jpg/ironmanl.jpg 00:48 -!- dc0de_ [n=dc0de@ip68-107-57-222.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #se2600 00:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de_] by ChanServ 00:48 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@ip68-107-57-222.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:51 -!- dc0de_ is now known as dc0de 01:27 <@Dagmar> Whew. 01:27 <@Dagmar> With a bit more time the acetaminophen made the finger stop hurting 01:28 <@Dagmar> Hopefully I didnt' crush it too much 01:28 < eryc> Everything's shiny, Cap'n. Not to fret! 01:29 <@Dagmar> I literally slammed the last bit of my middle finger in a filing cabinet door about 20 minutes from the end of my shift. 01:30 <@Dagmar> I didn't slam it hard, but the damn thing is heavy 01:31 < eryc> at least the tylenol worked 01:31 < eryc> i've been taking advil for all my aches and pains lately 01:32 <@Dagmar> It hurt like a mofo at first 01:33 <@Dagmar> I thought I was going to have to come home and take some more pills 01:33 <@Dagmar> My real problem is that I have GOT TO STOP ABUSING MY HANDS 01:33 <@Dagmar> I have no less than four cuts on my right hadn at the moment because I keep smacking it into things 01:35 < eryc> nice 01:37 <@Dagmar> Yeah the worst part is that I tend to ignore things like that so I'll smack my hand into something, cuss a bit, shake it once, and then ten minute later be trying to figure out where the blood is coming from 01:37 < eryc> haha 01:38 < eryc> i've been relatively scrape free for a while i think 01:39 <@Dagmar> zeltek: MythWeb 01:39 < eryc> which is suprising given the absurd amount of alcohol i drank this weekend 01:39 <@Dagmar> @#$@ 01:39 <@Dagmar> I don't drink that often 01:39 <@Dagmar> I just never really got over those body telemetry issues from puberty's growth spurts 01:40 < eryc> maybe have a surgeon break some bones and file things down a bit 01:40 < eryc> yea i'm taking a break after last night 01:45 <@Dagmar> I figure eventually I'll probably wind up knocking the most troublesome bits clen off 01:45 <@Dagmar> s/clen/clean/; 01:46 <@Dagmar> Obviously that finger is still a little numb 01:48 <@juice> gah why is it when I want t play hon I can never get a full room 01:48 <@juice> lol 02:08 < Mercster> hon? 02:08 < Mercster> i bought SF4 yesterday, doing a bunch of reading and watching videos 02:10 < Mercster> ah, warcraft3 stuff 03:46 < eryc> what is SF4 03:47 < Mercster> street fighter 4 03:47 < eryc> oh 03:47 < eryc> ryuken 03:47 < Mercster> shoooooryuken! 03:47 < Mercster> hadoooouken! 04:21 < eryc> tun tun tun tun tun.. tun tun tun! 06:17 -!- tess [i=w@grid9.quadspeedi.net] has quit ["broked pipe"] 06:17 -!- tess [i=w@grid9.quadspeedi.net] has joined #se2600 06:59 <@Shadow404> haha, the publics idea of what IRC is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ&feature=player_embedded 07:02 -!- Netsplit lindbohm.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @ChanServ 07:04 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ 07:10 -!- Netsplit lindbohm.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @ChanServ 07:13 < ware> morning 07:14 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ 07:15 -!- Netsplit lindbohm.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @ChanServ 07:16 < sdodson> Shadow404: pretty much spot on, except every now and then folks don't speek leet they speak douchebag. And that's where you come in. 07:18 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ 07:25 <@mfph> http://m0refire.com/mfph/02-mfph-tower_of_memories.mp3 07:30 -!- chruck1 [n=chruck@216.105.130.254] has joined #se2600 07:39 -!- chruck [n=chruck@216.105.130.254] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:42 -!- digitaliz [n=digitali@my.ass.looks.just.like.your-face.info] has left #se2600 [] 07:43 -!- digitaliz [n=digitali@my.ass.looks.just.like.your-face.info] has joined #se2600 07:44 -!- digitaliz is now known as digitalirony 07:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o digitalirony] by ChanServ 08:13 <@Shadow404> sdodson.diaf.snsweather.com 08:13 <@Shadow404> oh hi 08:14 < ware> ohai that url doesnt work 08:18 <@Shadow404> yeah 08:18 <@Shadow404> i removed a bunch of forwarders 08:18 <@Shadow404> anywho 08:18 <@Shadow404> that irc video is halarious 08:18 <@Shadow404> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ&feature=player_embedded 08:18 <@Shadow404> did you see it yet? 08:18 <@Shadow404> ware: and yes, im a non-member of freeside at this point, schedule might change at work, so membership atm may not be worth it 08:18 <@Shadow404> but i come in for the classes in the meetings 08:19 <@Shadow404> and to work on projects when another member is gonna be there 08:20 < ware> what benefits would you have if you were a member? 08:20 < ware> how do they do dues? 08:20 <@Shadow404> its monthly dues, via paypal payments 08:21 <@Shadow404> and you get 24/7 access via an rfid badge 08:21 <@Shadow404> and get to use all the tools and parts in the space freely 08:21 <@Shadow404> store your projects on site 08:21 <@Shadow404> and a bunch of other little nice things 08:21 <@Shadow404> oh, and a huge shell account 08:21 <@Shadow404> out of a dedicated d/c 08:23 <@Shadow404> ok, thats freaky, people showing up on my gtalk contact list cause i joined a wave with them on it 08:44 -!- Netsplit lindbohm.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @ChanServ 08:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ 08:50 -!- mtown_nerd [n=josh@ghruaim.net] has quit ["leaving"] 08:55 -!- Netsplit lindbohm.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @ChanServ 09:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ 09:29 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=m0j0-j0j@vnet503-hosoc.mcclatchyinteractive.com] has joined #se2600 09:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o m0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 09:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: we're finally doing the RHEL5 update on our servers. 09:48 -!- onlngenius [n=japage@nom27263d.nomadic.ncsu.edu] has joined #se2600 09:49 -!- onlngenius [n=japage@nom27263d.nomadic.ncsu.edu] has left #se2600 ["Leaving."] 09:56 < sdodson> 22" monitor is just large enough to make me want at 24" display 09:56 < sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: "the RHEL5 update"? You mean migrating from RHEL4 to RHEL5? 09:56 < coil> sdodson sf 09:56 <@m0j0-j0j0> yeah 09:57 < sdodson> coil: sf? 09:57 < sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: cool 09:57 < sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: to 5.4? 09:57 < ware> rattleXw: ping 09:57 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: doubt it 09:58 < coil> shutfuck 09:58 < sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: that makes no sense, if you're just now doing the validation go straight to 5.4 09:59 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: it's not my group. Chances are they will rapidly go to 5.4, but I think they are doing 5.0 followed by testing on 5.2 10:00 <@m0j0-j0j0> the updating again the testing on 5.4 10:00 <@m0j0-j0j0> but I'm sure they won't start implementing 5.4 for at least 6 months 10:01 <@m0j0-j0j0> since they are non-public servers they would rather deal with security back ports than get all bleeding edge 10:08 -!- B3AST1 [n=Bryan@c-68-52-252-199.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:08 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 10:11 < ware> http://24.179.68.67:7000/rattle/ 10:11 < ware> filenames with ass in them are obviously nsfw 10:12 < coil> ur ovbiously nsfw 10:23 -!- B3AST [n=Bryan@c-68-52-252-199.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:40 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #se2600 10:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 10:57 -!- Corydon76-lap [n=Corydon7@nat/digium/x-axbgfrvvbzptggvt] has joined #se2600 10:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-lap] by ChanServ 10:58 < rattleXw> Oh my God. That is so old-school! 10:58 < rattleXw> Those are from 1995-1997.. 11:11 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has joined #se2600 11:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X] by ChanServ 11:20 -!- das_2 [n=opera@71.36.142.59] has joined #se2600 11:20 -!- das_2 [n=opera@71.36.142.59] has left #se2600 [] 11:21 < daswork> Hey, how would I password protect a NFS share? 11:21 < daswork> I just need simple, dumb security, I think. 11:29 <@nachoguy> any of you guys heard of Rain King? 11:29 <@nachoguy> http://rainkingonline.com 11:32 < ware> rattleXw: haha figured you'd get a kick outta it 11:33 < ware> found em on in old efnet people pics archive 11:41 < rattleXw> That is a blast from the past. 11:41 < rattleXw> Most of those were from a portable webcam rig I had.. 11:42 < rattleXw> The rattle7 one is from when NES backhoe'd the T1 that powered Skyfire.. 11:51 < ware> hehe nice 11:52 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 11:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 11:58 < sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: WTF is the point of testing 5.0 and 5.4? 11:58 < sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: You realize that there's like 4000+ bugs that've been fixed between 5.0 and 5.4, right? 11:59 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["leaving"] 12:00 < eryc> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=65b_1258317383 12:00 < eryc> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5e0_1258319176 12:10 < sdodson> eryc: what that is? 12:10 <@opticron> SPARTA 12:10 * opticron has the sudden urge to kick someone 12:13 < eryc> sdodson: bbw pr0n 12:18 -!- tess [i=w@grid9.quadspeedi.net] has left #se2600 [] 12:19 -!- Venom_X_ [n=pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has joined #se2600 12:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X_] by ChanServ 12:21 < rattleXw> Cisco boggles the mind sometimes.. 12:21 < rattleXw> For instance, DEC MOP being enabled on routers by default. 12:21 < rattleXw> Because everyone has VMS in their enterprise.. Best to have it on by default! 12:21 < rattleXw> shesh. 12:21 < fall0ut> XO boggles the mind 12:21 < fall0ut> on how horribly slow they are to update prefix-lists 12:22 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:22 -!- Venom_X_ is now known as Venom_X 12:22 < rattleXw> They are pretty bone headed with that.. 12:22 < fall0ut> turned up a customer with ~200 prefixes & about 20 AS' behind them 12:22 < fall0ut> and they're just retards abou tit 12:26 < ephemeral> fall0ut: It's not just BGP. They suck. 12:28 < fall0ut> there aren't many carriers in Nashville to choose from 12:28 < fall0ut> so it really sucks 12:29 < fall0ut> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/11/r2d2_star-trek.jpg 12:30 < eryc> is that an ewok 12:30 < fall0ut> R2D2 12:30 < fall0ut> ftw 12:46 <@Dagmar> Excellent photoshopping 12:51 < ware> wheres the link to the story 12:52 < ware> http://gizmodo.com/5405276/confirmed-r2+d2-finally-discovered-in-star-trek 12:56 < rattleXw> Woohoo! 12:56 < rattleXw> I just brought my my connection to PAIX Vienna GNI. 12:57 < rattleXw> The door for public peering the the center is open.. 12:58 < fall0ut> im waiting on eqx to finish my xconn in ORD 12:58 <@Neoteric> my my 12:59 < rattleXw> Neoteric: Your absence at BarCampDC was noticed.. 13:00 <@Neoteric> yeah that was on honey, she wanted to spend the weekend "doing things" 13:00 <@Neoteric> and "doing things" ment "skipping free alcohol" 13:00 <@Neoteric> and by "noticed" in the bad way? 13:01 < rattleXw> A few people were wondering where you were. 13:01 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: did you see the line where I said it's not my dept. 13:02 <@Neoteric> but thanks for the txt's i remembered, but needed to do things w/ her 13:04 < rattleXw> So I'm the one who is married, but you are more whipped than I.. I.. I.. Irony. 13:06 < ephemeral> Choosing to spend time with one's chosen mate is not being "whipped". 13:06 <@Dagmar> rattleXw: Hey man, she's cute and he's asian. He's gotta work to keep her 13:10 <@Neoteric> life is weird when Dagmar defends my relationships 13:11 < ephemeral> Neoteric: BTW, where did you end up going to eat Saturday night at PN? 13:11 <@Dagmar> Next Wave Of Stupid: Setting up a website for drawing traffic in a transparent attempt to get Mark Cuban to pay you a million dollars to list it with Bing 13:11 <@Neoteric> ephemeral: sat night? loveless cafe 13:11 < ephemeral> How was it? 13:11 <@Neoteric> then night snack-snack of the prince's hot chicken 13:12 < ephemeral> nom nom nom 13:13 <@Neoteric> ephemeral: if you haven't been: http://www.lovelesscafe.com/ 13:13 -!- Curbob [n=curbob@12.97.163.66] has joined #se2600 13:14 <@Neoteric> ephemeral: the steak biscuits are the reason to goto the loveless cafe 13:14 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-143-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:51 <@Neoteric> rattleX: btw that Palo Alto box is $3k 13:55 < eryc> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227988/Bugatti-supercar-owner-distracted-low-flying-pelican-drives-marsh.html 13:59 < rattleXw> Neoteric: Not bad! 13:59 < rattleXw> Is that with the support, url database updates, etc? 14:15 < eryc> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.50fd6792b83ac59fea414195ebeb58b3.791&show_article=1 14:18 -!- Venom_X_ [n=pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 14:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Venom_X_] by ChanServ 14:18 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@66.54.185.131] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:18 -!- Venom_X_ is now known as Venom_X 14:19 <@Shadow404> eryc: wow that reporter has ballz 14:22 < eryc> http://news.bostonherald.com/news/offbeat/view/20091113man_charged_with_calling_911_for_sex/srvc=home&position=recent 14:23 <@Dagmar> Holy shit lol 14:23 <@Dagmar> Right so... http://www.youtube.com/worldofwarcraft 14:23 <@Dagmar> The commercial is NOT entirely a joke 14:24 <@Dagmar> Apparently they actually _have_ added a night-elf mohawk grenade for the near future 14:24 <@Dagmar> http://www.wow.com/2009/11/16/night-elf-mohawk-grenade-now-active-in-wow 14:34 -!- B3AST1 is now known as B3AST 15:04 < fall0ut> hey 15:04 < fall0ut> some of you guys have stuff in the sungard/inflow colo in Nashville, right? 15:05 < fall0ut> who's the best contact there to get an xconnect done? 15:05 < eryc> this time of year? santa claus 15:05 < eryc> ho ho ho 15:05 < fall0ut> heh 15:15 < fall0ut> so I gues thats a no 15:21 -!- Curbob [n=curbob@12.97.163.66] has quit [] 15:46 <@Dagmar> Speaking of colos... 15:46 <@Dagmar> The guys who run thetvdb.com are currently down because their datacenter is apparently run by morons. 15:46 <@Dagmar> Their server lost power because another customer turned up nine blades in a blade server and it _blew circuits_ over the weekend 15:46 <@Dagmar> ...as in melted wires. 15:47 < fall0ut> nice 15:47 <@Dagmar> Good thing they're moving the hell out of there. 15:47 < fall0ut> where were they at? 15:52 < eryc> my basement 15:52 < eryc> sorry guys 16:06 <@Neoteric> http://harkopen.com/hackerspaces 16:06 <@Neoteric> someone add HC to that fucker 16:12 -!- B3AST1 [n=Bryan@c-68-52-252-199.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:18 < eryc> hey php dudez 16:18 < eryc> whats the diff between 5.3 and 5.2 16:18 < eryc> wait nvm fuck it i have 5.2 already 16:21 -!- polerin [n=erin@c-68-52-241-208.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o polerin] by ChanServ 16:25 < eryc> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8362525.stm 16:28 -!- B3AST [n=Bryan@c-68-52-252-199.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 16:34 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has joined #se2600 16:38 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has left #se2600 ["Leaving."] 16:42 -!- droops [n=erickson@74.193.239.242] has quit [] 16:43 -!- fie [n=fie@ip70-178-143-190.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 16:43 -!- Venom_X is now known as Venom_brb 17:00 < sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: it's still lame 17:00 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: *nod* 17:01 <@m0j0-j0j0> I suspect we run something more up to date on the public servers 17:03 <@m0j0-j0j0> well... in all honesty, we only have netapps really public but I figure any box I can ssh into even when proxied via security monitoring and load balancing net app is still really public 17:08 < ware> we dont need secure servers! 17:08 < ware> our employees wouldnt hack their own company! 17:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> ware: most of the guys here won't know how and those that do know how wouldn't need to because we know how to get access without it 17:10 < ware> riiiighhhttt 17:10 < ware> perfect excuse for running services with known vulnerabilites 17:10 < ware> ies! 17:11 <@m0j0-j0j0> I don't run shit 17:12 <@m0j0-j0j0> networking and security isn't even in the same branch as development 17:14 < ware> you need to develop new strategys 17:14 < ware> because what youre doing now doesnt work 17:15 <@m0j0-j0j0> it doesn't? 17:16 < ware> nope 17:16 < ware> that model is not secure 17:16 -!- Venom_brb is now known as Venom_X 17:18 <@m0j0-j0j0> it's not. but if you evaluate the threat, you'll find that the biggest issue we have has little to do with 31337 sploitz and has a great deal more to do with legacy code 17:19 <@Dagmar> yipyipyip 17:20 < ware> right 17:20 < ware> still vulnerable 17:20 < ware> but i guess thats how you look at it so its okay 17:20 * ware tosses m0j0-j0j0 a troll condom 17:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> one developer (or even worse a script running as one developer) being able to access an administrative account for anything is a much bigger issue then shit properly secured even if it isn't the latest version (patches/backports applied) 17:21 < ware> im just fuckin with ya 17:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> ware: troll or not developers should never have admin accounts 17:22 < ware> agreed 17:22 < ware> we never knew how to run our lab network 17:22 < ware> or our production network for that matter 17:22 < ware> our "head of security" guy asked me how to forward ports once :( 17:23 <@m0j0-j0j0> ware: and what makes you think that I use condoms? Illegitimate troll babies that look like me should be everywhere 17:23 < ware> haha 17:23 < ware> i love harassing my little brothers 17:23 <@m0j0-j0j0> ware: yeah, our admins asked me to stop teaching people how to do ssh tunnels 17:24 < ware> 7 and 4yr old are playing mario galaxy and he keeps dying and saying its not fair hahahaa 17:24 < ware> yah i told him about mine 17:24 < ware> then he blocked it 17:24 < ware> and came back a couple months later and asked why my work station was showing ungodly amount of "what appears to be SSH traffic but on a $high_random_port" 17:25 < ware> *shrug* aint that for you to find out!? 17:25 < ware> and after he blocked that one i went to port 80 17:25 <@m0j0-j0j0> ware: I think I cut the discussion off after they said something like "how can we make sure that it's secure if we can't tell what it is?" 17:25 < ware> roflles 17:25 < ware> define:secure 17:27 < ware> Dagmar: have you seen dragin origins 17:27 <@[1NF0]> secure: powered off; embedded in 6' or more of concrete; buried 5,280 feet or more under earth; guarded with 1,000 armoured guards sporting 2 chainguns a piece 17:27 < ware> err dragon age origins 17:27 <@Dagmar> You mean the blood splatter sim? 17:27 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I've been playin' it 17:27 < ware> i guess 17:27 < ware> word, i got it d/ling 17:27 <@Dagmar> If you get it on the PC you'll really want to install the beta dot net shit 17:28 < ware> why for? 17:28 <@Dagmar> 3.5rc1 does some things differently from what they apparently tested it with, which was an RC for 4 17:28 < ware> ahh 17:28 <@Dagmar> Zone load times will be 2-5 MINUTES with only 3.5 installed 17:28 <@Dagmar> Something screws up and each zone or reload you do adds a few more seconds. 17:28 <@Dagmar> Install dotnetfx40 and the problem goes right awya. Load times drop to under 30s 17:29 < ware> ill have to try that out 17:33 <@Dagmar> I seriosuly considered recommending it to you since you're kinda bound to that chair for now 17:33 < ware> haha yeah, my buddy bought it on his direct drive account 17:34 < ware> then gave me the info so i could d/l it and play 17:34 < ware> but he just got it today 17:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> [1NF0]: no, the guards would pose a security threat. I think you should have one guard with suicidal tendencies to drywall the the server in a wall to gain access to a large cache of deadly weapons. 17:35 <@Dagmar> I got the collector's edition (the LAST time I'll put up with that kind of DLC douchebaggery) through Steam 17:36 <@[1NF0]> m0j0-j0j0: the quantity of the guards was to hopefully have at least 1 loyal one amongst them... but you are quite correct 17:36 <@[1NF0]> 1,000 guards could conspire together... 17:36 <@[1NF0]> h00maanz minus minus 17:37 <@[1NF0]> my recatpa: "industry's finest" 17:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> I think it's time for me to disappear to the gym 17:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> have a good night folks. 17:37 <@Dagmar> ware: by the way, um, this isn't much of a spoiler but... DON'T fuck around with Flemeth 17:37 <@Dagmar> She will FUCK YOU UP 17:38 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@enki.sunlightfoundation.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:38 <@Dagmar> Be respectful when you deal with her 17:38 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=m0j0-j0j@vnet503-hosoc.mcclatchyinteractive.com] has quit ["respect the Flemeth."] 17:39 < ware> haha 17:39 < ware> ill try to remember that 17:39 < ware> have you beaten it already? 17:39 <@Dagmar> Nope 17:39 <@Dagmar> The damn thing is being reported as having 150+ hours of playtime in it 17:39 <@[1NF0]> I'm about to beat it in 15 minutes or so 17:39 <@[1NF0]> 150 hours!?! ouch 17:39 <@Dagmar> I've probably gotten about halfway through it, if that 17:40 < ware> oh shit 17:41 <@Dagmar> Oh, and even though it's a little crude, you _are_ somewhat expected to be able to recognize facial expressions on NPCs 17:41 < Mercster> and only 40 of those hours were spent exploring the possibilities for homoeroticism 17:41 <@Dagmar> Some of them have pretty severe tells, others not so much. 17:42 <@Dagmar> ...and since it's a Bioware game, a lot of the dialog is freaking hilarious. 17:42 <@Dagmar> OOO! 17:42 < ware> yah 17:42 <@Dagmar> Do you like Claudia Black (Aeryn Sun, Valla)? 17:43 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iFrHRaH0Os 17:43 < ware> dunno who that is 17:44 < ware> Mercster: http://dragonage.bioware.com/gallery/screens 17:44 < ware> 2nd pic, wooweewooh 17:44 <@Dagmar> ware: Yes, the second NPC that talks in that video is Morrigan 17:44 <@Dagmar> Morrigan's voice is done by Claudia Black 17:45 < ware> hooot 17:45 <@Dagmar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO0Dr6A9Y8c <0-- this chick from Farscape 17:45 <@Dagmar> I am having a hard time using other mages cuz I like her voice so much 17:47 < ware> haha screaming little kid obscenities back and forth with my 4yr old lil brother 17:47 < ware> he just screamed "youre a dirty butt helmet!!!" 17:47 <@[1NF0]> butt helmet, eh? 17:47 < ware> rofl 17:47 < ware> they are lil shit heads 17:47 < ware> but they can be entertaining 17:48 <@Dagmar> Hmm... Looks like Donald Howard got another postponement on his trial 18:09 -!- Corydon76-lap [n=Corydon7@nat/digium/x-axbgfrvvbzptggvt] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:20 < sdodson> damnit where'd m0j0-j0j0 go? I wanted to give him more shit for bad it decisions 18:25 < ware> i trolled him 18:28 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZN1puUwH0c&NR=1 18:30 < sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP-eXxOpQU8 18:30 < sdodson> ware: that guy looks happy 18:31 < ware> yah 18:42 < Mercster> beautiful http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b1b_1257893052 18:47 < ware> eh. http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/a4suf/hiroko_mima_aka_miss_universe_japan_2008_and_anya/ 18:52 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@69.17.39.162] has joined #se2600 18:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 18:55 -!- Venom_X [n=pjacobs@cpe-67-9-131-167.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [] 19:42 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@69.17.39.162] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:47 -!- R3d2Dawn_ [n=quassel@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has joined #se2600 19:48 -!- R3d2Dawn_ [n=quassel@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has quit [Client Quit] 19:56 < kive> neat, sdodson. might need to find something creative to do with the stairs at Freeside now. :) 19:59 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@69.17.39.162] has joined #se2600 19:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 20:03 <@Dagmar> Holy shit 20:03 <@Dagmar> Sarah Palin actually tried to claim to Oprah that she understood the Bush Doctrine question 20:03 <@Dagmar> What the fuck 20:03 <@Dagmar> Like MILLIONS of people didn't see clearly that she was clueless 20:07 -!- reenigne [n=quassel@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has joined #se2600 20:10 <@Dagmar> We need to petition the Republicans to change their party name to "The Self-Deluded Lying Morons Party" 20:13 < Mercster> who's "we" 20:20 < ware> we the people 20:20 < ware> in order to form a more perfect union 20:20 < ware> establish justice 20:20 < Mercster> invisible under God 20:21 < ware> insure domestic tranquility 20:21 < ware> something about defense programs and welfare negros 20:21 < ware> blah blah blah 20:21 <@Dagmar> Mercster: Everyone who's not a card-carrying member of that party and finds their behaviour utterly shameful 20:21 < ware> constitution is above all law 20:21 < ware> america, fuck yeah. --thomas jefferson & smoking buddies 20:22 < ware> hahaha 20:22 < ware> We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. 20:22 <@Dagmar> What Palin was saying to Oprah was such a massive lie I am actually impressed Oprah didn't just do a jaw-drop and tell her to get the fuck off the stage 20:22 < Mercster> Dagmar: yeah, wow, lying politicians 20:22 < Mercster> Dagmar: film at 11 20:22 <@Dagmar> There's lies, and there's "whoppers" 20:23 < Mercster> like "i did not have sex with that woman" 20:23 < Mercster> is that a whopper 20:23 < Mercster> was Clinton a republican? 20:23 < Mercster> i cant remember 20:23 < ware> Dagmar: never ascrbe to malice what ignorance will explain 20:23 <@Dagmar> Like, "I didn't kill those people" when you're found in a locked room standing over a half dozen bodies with a smoking gun in each hand and covered in blood spatter 20:23 <@Dagmar> ...or if Bernie Madoff decided to claim he didn't know it was wrong to rip all those people off. 20:23 < ware> guess "Never ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by ignorance" is the correct quote 20:24 < Mercster> how about $90,000 bilked cash in a freezer 20:24 < Mercster> is that a whopper 20:25 < Mercster> hah http://mklasing.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/free-cat.jpg 20:26 < ware> but the guns weren't fired! 20:26 < ware> the smoke was cigarette smoke 20:26 < ware> and none of the bullets found match the barrells in either gun 20:26 < ware> err, barrel 20:26 <@Dagmar> Mercster: Not quite but it's damn close 20:26 < ware> whomeva! 20:26 * Mercster lubes ware's barrel 20:26 <@Dagmar> You *did* see the interview in question, right? 20:26 < ware> grozz merc 20:27 < ware> we should have a politics club! 20:27 <@Dagmar> Where that interviewer asked her about her views on the Bush Doctrine, and she responded like some ten-year-old who hadn't done any of her homework and was trying to bullshit her way out of it. 20:27 < ware> meet up twice a month and bitch about everything that gets bitched about in here 20:27 <@Dagmar> Actually, I take that back. 20:27 <@Dagmar> A ten-year-old could probably have done a better job of making shit up on the spot. 20:27 < ware> rofl 20:28 < ware> http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv-zone-1.811968/oprah-palin-the-interview-1.1592712 20:29 < Mercster> ""Shut up! Shut up you American. You always talk, you 20:29 < Mercster> Americans, you talk and you talk and say 'Let me tell you something' and 20:29 < Mercster> 'I just wanna say this', Well you're dead now, so shut up." -- grim reaper 20:30 < ware> the guy who got her daughter pregnant is now an aspiring porn king 20:30 < ware> oh wow i didnt know that 20:30 < ware> thats gotta suck 20:30 < ware> haha 20:31 < Mercster> dude's a shitheel creep 20:31 <@Dagmar> The author of that article has SUCH an agenda 20:32 <@Dagmar> He's looking to try to make people think Palin wasn't presenting herself like some kind of looney 20:33 <@Dagmar> Look at this 20:33 <@Dagmar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z75QSExE0jU 20:33 < ware> yah 20:33 < Mercster> issa OUTRAGE! 20:33 <@Dagmar> Notice that Charlie is so taken aback by her bullshit answer he even stutters a bit 20:33 < ware> i got the same feeling, was giving her too good of reviews 20:34 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@69.17.39.162] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20:34 <@Dagmar> Seriously, Merc. Check that out 20:34 <@Dagmar> Charlie asked a REALLY simple question about a well-published bit of politics, and she clearly has NO idea what he's talking about 20:34 < ware> her ears go red pretty early 20:35 <@Dagmar> ..and then we've got this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rXmuhWrlj4 20:35 <@Dagmar> Palin being interviewed by Katie Couric... and again, clearly just spinning bullshit 20:36 <@Dagmar> Now, if you watch the Oprah/Palin interview when she's asked about these two interviews that basically let America know she's a dumbass... 20:36 <@Dagmar> ...you wonder if they didn't somehow pull in a Palin from some other alternative reality 20:36 < ware> haha 20:36 <@Dagmar> ...because what she says bears no resemblance to that which we can clearly see to be true. 20:36 <@Dagmar> Fucking WHOPPERs. 20:37 <@Dagmar> Not just lies, but lies so large and so overwhelming as to make you wonder what kind of drugs the person telling them is on 20:37 -!- Dolemite [n=scott@99-2-141-173.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:37 < ware> hehe she couldnt name one :( 20:37 < Mercster> your self-righteous outrage would be less hilarious if you focused on people who actually are in office or have some sort of power 20:37 < ware> thats kinda sad 20:37 < Mercster> when is guantanimo closing? 20:37 < Mercster> wasnt that gonna close as soon as obama was in office? 20:37 < Mercster> hey, when are we pulling out of iraq? 20:37 < Mercster> REAL WHOPPERS, boy 20:38 < Mercster> but hey 20:38 < Mercster> you focus on "oprah" 20:38 < Mercster> lol 20:38 < Mercster> next youll be telling us how blatant the lies were of the guy on maury who swore the kid wasnt his 20:39 < Mercster> real hard hitting shit, man 20:39 < Mercster> way to go 20:39 < ware> katie couric is kinda hot 20:39 < ware> i think id hit it 20:39 < ware> Dagmar: woohoo! 30 min left on Dragon Ages 20:42 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfV8U16OkL0&NR=1 20:43 <@Dagmar> Marcster: Well, I'm terribly sorry if you don't approve me worrying about what the current republican idiotocracy will be trying to do to us in about three more years 20:44 < Mercster> i really dont give two shits 20:44 < Mercster> approve or disapprove doesnt come into it 20:45 <@Dagmar> Ah okay 20:45 < Mercster> ohhhh my lungs hurt 20:45 <@Dagmar> So smoke less crack 20:45 <@Dagmar> ...or at least switch to menthol crack 20:47 <@Dagmar> Wow I just got an awful look 20:47 < ware> Mercster: yeah, stay off teh rock 20:47 < ware> you @ work? 20:47 <@Dagmar> Carrie Pre-Jean was just on CNN talking about that sex tape business 20:47 <@Dagmar> Yes 20:47 < ware> http://nashville.craigslist.org/tch/ 20:47 <@Dagmar> She said "It was the worst mistake of my life" and me being a smart-ass quipped "But it was still really hot" 20:48 <@Dagmar> Female coworker gave me a nasty look for that one 20:48 < ware> man theres quite a few jorbs avail =/ i got at least another month before im able to work 20:48 < ware> HAHA 20:48 <@Dagmar> Sadly, I didnt' even know that woman had a sex tape issue 20:48 < ware> nice 20:48 <@Dagmar> I'm just assuming it was hot otherwise it wouldn't be "news" 20:48 <@Dagmar> Ugly people have their sex tapes unwittingly published all the time. 20:48 <@Dagmar> No one gives a damn unless they're hot. 20:49 <@Dagmar> You can pretty much work out how hot it is by how much of a splash it makes in the news 20:50 < ware> you saw the top 2 hotties in japan on reddit? 20:50 < ware> i posted a link earlier 20:50 < ware> actually worth the d/l 20:50 <@Dagmar> No, but if you paste it again I'll take a look once I get home. hehe 20:51 < ware> like miss universe and top miss japan of 2008 or something 20:51 -!- reenigne [n=quassel@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:51 < ware> hooking up together and with one of their bf's 20:51 < ware> lots of hot asian 20:51 -!- reenigne [n=quassel@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has joined #se2600 20:51 < ware> http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/a4suf/hiroko_mima_aka_miss_universe_japan_2008_and_anya/ 20:52 <@Dagmar> piped to my urls file 20:52 <@Dagmar> Thanks 20:54 < ware> np 20:54 < ware> 15 min left on DA 20:54 < ware> gonna shower and pop allergy pills and be on that for a few hours 20:54 < ware> bbiab 20:57 < fie> pillz 20:57 < fie> I'm on mdai 20:57 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: have you seen this yet? http://wilpig.org/temp/wow/mohawked.jpg 20:58 < fie> http://va2600.net/se2600.org/ this is what I was working on 20:58 < fie> like a week ago. 21:05 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: i heard about that addition to the game this morning. HI-LARIOUS 21:05 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: They've got the new commercial mentioning it on the worldofwarcraft youtube page, and I thought they were joking around 21:06 <@Evilpig> I just saw it and was like wtf 21:06 <@Dagmar> Yep 21:06 <@Dagmar> http://www.youtube.com/worldofwarcraft <-- the set up 21:07 < ware> oh shit 21:07 < ware> dude drives his *bugatti* into a lake 21:07 < ware> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091113/ap_on_fe_st/us_odd_lagoon_bugatti 21:08 <@Evilpig> interesting. I will have to go find one and get some. I just had the buff 21:08 <@Dagmar> hohoh 21:09 <@Dagmar> I'll betcha that's what that little tiny patch was last week 21:09 <@Dagmar> *snap* 21:09 <@Evilpig> and my f'in dvr is skipping and acting stupid tonight and I can't figure out why. it's acting like it is having to buffer for no good reason 21:09 < ware> pig is that 370 days your total... /played time? ... 21:09 <@Evilpig> or the one from the other night 21:09 <@Evilpig> shhhhh and yes 21:09 <@Evilpig> it's sad I know 21:09 < ware> holy moly dude 21:10 < ware> and whats worse is im sure there are ppl with twice that 21:10 < ware> haha 21:10 <@Evilpig> probably 21:10 < ware> are yall still playing together? dolemite and whoever else 21:10 <@Evilpig> yup 21:11 < ware> my bro is back from bahrain and he got internet last week, he was asking if me and sean play at all 21:11 < ware> and i was trying to get him to consider playing again 21:11 < ware> if we do ill get him to transfer a toon with me to yalls server 21:11 <@Dagmar> It would be really hard to go over twice that 21:11 <@Dagmar> Unless maybe you're in a wheelchair or something 21:11 < ware> how long as WoW been running? 21:11 < ware> 4 years now isnt it? 21:11 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: I know a few people if I got them to check would be close to twice that 21:11 <@Evilpig> 5 21:11 < ware> yeah so 2 years wouldnt be that hard 21:12 <@Dagmar> Well, considering that this night elf mohawk thing is part of the run-up to the 5 year anniversary? 21:12 < ware> id be there are ppl that have 3yrs played 21:12 <@Dagmar> About five years. 21:12 < ware> i havent played in 3-4 months or kept up with the news / patches / website =/ 21:12 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Those people _really_ need to get out of the house 21:12 < ware> 21:12 < ware> haha 21:13 < ware> saw that on my Aion server the other day 21:13 < ware> wooow DA is 15GB 21:13 <@Dagmar> Like, my main EQ toon I'd gotten up to 120 days played time I think, but that was over almsot five years and I definitely DID spend a lot of time just hacking the game or letting it go idle to track stats 21:14 < ware> you gonna play diablo 3? 21:14 <@Evilpig> my main, evilpig, has 285days alone 21:14 <@Evilpig> yeah 21:15 <@Dagmar> Fuck year 21:15 <@Dagmar> We're gonna kill the crap out of mobs in that 21:15 <@Evilpig> whoa! they cut the chicken escort quest way fuckin' short 21:15 < ware> would be fun to get a crew to jump on that 21:15 < Mercster> heh 21:15 <@Dagmar> really? nice 21:15 * Mercster checks his /played 21:15 < Mercster> 8 days 21 hours 21:15 < ware> ha merc 21:15 < Mercster> i am not hardcore 21:16 <@Dagmar> There's a difference between "hardcore" and "nolife" 21:16 < ware> http://us.blizzard.com/diablo3/media/#movies 21:16 < ware> WoW is a life 21:16 <@Dagmar> "hardcore" are the people with Ulduar gear and twenty days played time on a toon 21:16 < ware> i hate when ppl say that 21:16 <@Evilpig> I know one guy that had no life. leveled to 80, got gladiator then sold the toon. rinse repeat 21:16 <@Dagmar> "nolife" are the people with ulduar gear and 400 days /played time 21:17 < ware> one of seans friends does that 21:17 <@Dagmar> ...on multiple toons 21:17 < ware> cept he just gets em T6 21:17 < ware> they go for 400$ 21:17 <@Dagmar> I know pig leaves the house and isn't a chronic troll, so we can be pretty sure he's in the former category, not the latter 21:18 <@Evilpig> it really doesn't take that much time to level and get geared if you have a support system 21:28 <@Evilpig> I mean heck for examply my level 50 paladin has only 3 days and 7 hours played. it takes no time to level 21:56 < reenigne> WoW offical relese was around Nov 2004, It was announced around Sept of 01 21:57 < reenigne> I know there was beta testing before its offical releasde 22:02 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:02 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 22:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ladymerlin] by ChanServ 22:10 <@Dagmar> thank me later.OMG 22:10 <@Dagmar> OMG 22:10 <@Dagmar> They're ripping into Nancy Grace on the Daily Show 22:10 <@Dagmar> LOL 22:11 <@Dagmar> I'm waiting to see what they'll have to say about Oprah/Palin 22:14 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:14 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 22:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 22:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ladymerlin] by ChanServ 22:28 -!- Dolemite [n=scott@99-2-141-173.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 22:44 -!- notlarry_ [n=notlarry@99-2-141-173.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:46 < ware> woot! 22:46 < ware> DA is pretty friggen cool 22:46 -!- notlarry [n=notlarry@99.2.141.173] has joined #se2600 22:46 < ware> i rolled an elf mage 22:47 -!- Dolemite [n=scott@99-2-141-173.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:52 <@Dagmar> Allow me to suggest you hang onto ever lyrium potion you come across, and buy every one you see on a vendor 22:53 <@Dagmar> Mana is an _issue_ 22:53 <@Dagmar> ...or at least it was for me 22:53 <@Dagmar> Let Alistair tank stuff 22:55 <@Dagmar> Oh, and sword & board (i.e., sword and shield) tactics are kinda weak at first but become _really_ effective by the time you hit 12 or so 22:57 <@Dagmar> by the way 22:57 <@Dagmar> http://www.pvponline.com/ 22:58 <@Dagmar> I don't quite know what's up with the author of that webcomic today 22:58 <@Dagmar> Normally he does NOT do jokes that are anything like that 23:03 < Mercster> by the way 23:03 < Mercster> http://www.experienceproject.com/groups/Poop-My-Pants-On-Purpose/forum/What%E2%80%99s-The-Longest-Time-You-Have-Kept-Wearing-Your-Underwear-After-You-Pooed-In-Them/28645 23:18 <@Dagmar> No. 23:19 <@Dagmar> Just... no. 23:19 <@Dagmar> Something is wrong with the WoW forums 23:19 <@Dagmar> I see nothing but reasonable posts 23:19 <@Dagmar> Dagmar: The coming of the Rapture. Only possible explanation. 23:20 <@Dagmar> I'm almost inclined to agree 23:20 <@Dagmar> This shit does _not_ happen 23:20 -!- reenigne [n=quassel@66-38-99-178.pool.dsl.nctc.com] has left #se2600 ["http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."] 23:57 < xtort-> make sure to enjoy pooperhp's avatar --- Log closed Tue Nov 17 00:00:32 2009