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04:52 < notlarry> anyone see V tonight?
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08:17 -!- polerin changed the topic of #se2600 to: Phreaknic 14 its coming............. | That's it.  everyones rights are going up for a vote now.
08:30 <@sdodson> whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
08:34 <@polerin> if you can vote on my rights, I can vote on yours.
08:34  * polerin sighs
08:50 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: Relax. time is on your side.  Just wait 10 years for some of the older voters to die off
08:52 <@polerin> meh
08:52 <@polerin> I don't care to relax right now
08:53 <@Corydon76-dig> That's what the opponents of gay marriage have to contend with: younger people support it to an overwhelming degree.  So at best, they're fighting the tide.
08:55 < ware> WOOHOO REPUBLICANS IN OFFICE!
08:55  * ware ignites jihadist civil war early in the chatroom
08:59 <@sdodson> polerin: My rights are sane though
08:59 <@polerin> sane?
08:59 <@sdodson> Since when is marriage a right?
08:59 <@polerin> since when is getting fired because you're gay sane?
09:00 <@sdodson> yesterday, pay attention d00d
09:00 <@Shadow404> since when is getting placed in jail cause you killed a dumb broad sane?
09:00 <@polerin> Shadow404: really?  Getting fired for being gay == murder?
09:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: your wife isn't a dumb broad
09:00 <@Shadow404> thats why shes not dead
09:01 <@Shadow404> i was speaking of another individual
09:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: If anything, you're the dumb broad.  Wonder why she hasn't killed you yet.
09:01 <@sdodson> polerin: what's this about getting fired?
09:01 <@polerin> sdodson: you can be fired for being gay.
09:01 <@polerin> in a large majority of places.
09:02 <@polerin> with no legal recourse.
09:02 < ware> yah cause youre infecting the populous with a disease
09:02 < ware> its genocide
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09:02 < ware> shouldnt be allowed in the workplace if it can be helped
09:02  * polerin sighs
09:02 < ware> less you make everyone where bodysuits and masks
09:02 <@polerin> ware, I'm really not in the mood right now
09:02 <@polerin> don't.
09:02 < ware> :P k ill stop
09:03 <@sdodson> polerin: where?
09:03  * Corydon76-dig pokes ware in the thigh
09:03 <@polerin> sdodson: the majority of the US.  Tennessee specifically
09:03 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: don't infect him
09:03 <@sdodson> polerin: rly?
09:03 <@polerin> uh.  yeah.
09:03 <@sdodson> i think you're extrapolating this from something
09:03 <@polerin> no.
09:03 <@polerin> Look up the ENDA
09:03 <@polerin> and why it's neccisary
09:04 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: It seriously is the case
09:04 <@sdodson> lol, that's tragic
09:04 <@polerin> sdodson: and considering that partners of 15 years are being denied access to their loved ones as they are dying in the hospital?  yeah.. that's pretty fucked up.
09:05 <@polerin> because they aren't "family"
09:05 <@Corydon76-dig> California is one place where it's illegal to discriminate on that basis.
09:05 <@polerin> sdodson: we are not covered under federal law, and there is a very sparse patchwork of legislation covering us
09:06 <@polerin> in state and local districts.
09:07 <@sdodson> The problem there is that those rights are tied to marriage not a simple legal status
09:08 <@polerin> The fact is that the rights implied in marriage should not be afforded only to those relationships that meet societal approval
09:08 <@sdodson> s/implied/explicitly stated/
09:09 <@sdodson> So fix the real problem, don't fix marriage.
09:10 <@polerin> why?  when marriage is the problem
09:10 <@Corydon76-dig> The problem is that there are thousands of benefits which are codified to the institution of marriage, in thousands of different jurisdictions
09:10 <@polerin> in multiple ways.
09:11 < ware> but marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman?
09:12 < whiten0ise> indeed it is
09:12 < whiten0ise> by definition and tradition and everything else
09:13 <@polerin> not it's not
09:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh.  Until fairly recently, marriage was a practical institution meant to settle differences between families by forcing daughters to marry someone they'd never met
09:15 <@sdodson> you define fairly recently fairly loosely
09:15 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: 50 years
09:15 < ware> i think everyone should learn to keep emotions out of conversation here, because we hash over topics that none of us  ourselves can change
09:15 <@Shadow404> ware: some individuals may be into bodysuits and mask
09:16 < whiten0ise> Corydon76-dig: that still goes on today, just not in our culture. cultures have always had marriage differently
09:16 < ware> Corydon76-dig: negatron, do not belief dat!
09:17 <@Corydon76-dig> whiten0ise: yes, but as soon as you say marriage is relative to culture, it means we can redefine it as we wish, and that's what the opponents of gay marriage don't want to concede
09:17 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Anyway, shower time
09:17 < whiten0ise> Corydon76-dig: but it changes based on an overwhelming swing of cultural interaction, so as soon as everyone wnats to marry the same sex as themselevs, it will happen, but until then it won't culturally swing, only legally
09:17 < ware> yes, majority will rule, but just because most think a thing should be doesnt make it right
09:18  * Corydon76-dig has been IRCing in the nude... think about that for a moment...
09:18 < whiten0ise> mmmmm
09:18  * coil gets hard
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09:18  * Shadow404 teleworks in the nude
09:18 < ware> Corydon76-dig: pulk!
09:18 < ware> err puke!
09:18 <@sdodson> Shadow404: before you can say you telework you have to actually do some work
09:19 <@Shadow404> sdodson: heh, i do plenty
09:19 < ware> hey im going through Teach Yourself Perl in 21 days and may need your help in the next week
09:19 <@Shadow404> i dont see you migrating a whole pnap in 30 days
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09:25 <@sdodson> Shadow404: what's a pnap?
09:26 <@sdodson> power nap?
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09:26 <@Shadow404> wiki it
09:26 < coil> stfu it
09:27 <@Shadow404> coil.diaf.snsweather.com
09:27 <@Shadow404> :)
09:27 < coil> is that all you can say to me
09:28 <@polerin> coil: it's how he flirts.
09:28 <@Shadow404> polerin: yep, i send my wife A records and it gets her all hot
09:28 <@Shadow404> oh, lets not even go into cnames
09:28 <@polerin> I'm sure it does
09:29 <@Shadow404> i love axfr her zone file
09:33 <@sdodson> I sure hope you're not saying this bullshit with a straight face.
09:33 <@polerin> sdodson: I don't say anything with a straight face
09:33 <@polerin> :D
09:34 < coil> i'm queerer than poptarts
09:35 <@Shadow404> yes you are
09:36 < coil> shut the fuck up
09:36 < coil> you dont even know me
09:36 <@Shadow404> yeah i do, now diaf, so i wont have to anymore
09:38 <@polerin> I feel the love :P
09:39 <@Shadow404> polerin: if it was love, i would be directing coil to some AAA records
09:39 <@Shadow404> heh
09:39 < [1NF0]_Work> does anybody know how to use the damned graybar.com site? I'm supposed to find some rack accessories there to purchase... I've been looking for 3 damned days! ;)
09:39 < coil> AAAA you fuckin noob
09:39 <@Shadow404> heh, yep, not doing ipv6 yet
09:40 <@Shadow404> im scared of that shit
09:40 < coil> pussy
09:40 < coil> its not hard
09:40 < coil> i can do it
09:40 < [1NF0]_Work> be a pussy?
09:40 < [1NF0]_Work> yeah, I believe that
09:40 <@Shadow404> ^5 [1NF0]_Work
09:41 <@nachoguy> http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=44755
09:42 <@Shadow404> nachoguy: that should be labled, the worst time waster on the internets
09:42 <@nachoguy> perhaps
09:42 <@nachoguy> but the video is good
09:42 <@Shadow404> oh man, i spent half my day yesterday with remote techs on the phone just babysitting, i think i spent 4 hours of an 8 hour shift on youtube alone while i had the techs on speakerphone
09:43 <@Shadow404> hard work day
10:47 < ware> get meh a j0b
10:47 < ware> do they accept cripples
10:48 < ware> i cant lift anything over 15lbs
10:48 < ware> and i cant reach anything above 5ft
10:48 < ware> which means no data center work or pulling cables
10:49 <@Shadow404> meh, could probably work in the noc as a desk jockey fulltime
10:50 < ware> i r smartr than that
10:52 <@sdodson> ware: be Shadow404's boss
10:52 <@Shadow404> lawl
10:52 <@Shadow404> he'd be my minion
10:55 < ware> sdodson: yah that sounds like a good idea
10:56 <@Shadow404> i would quit
10:59  * polerin thinks she might actually show up at a 2600 meeting friday 
10:59 <@polerin> now that it's back at JJ's it is much more tempting
11:14 < ware> i doubt ill be there
11:15 < ware> dont feel like wheelchairing it up
11:15 <@nachoguy> ware, you actually hurt yourself?
11:15 <@nachoguy> I thought you were goofing.  what happened?
11:17 < ware> negatron, really got in a motorcycle wreck
11:17 <@nachoguy> damn  how bad?
11:18 < ware> ish for work, shows the damage to my leg -> http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs274.snc1/10135_185022228218_506303218_3887787_6813987_n.jpg
11:18 < ware> 40 staples in my leg and titanium screws and rods
11:18 < ware> pretty well fukt but im still alive
11:19 < ware> 6 breaks in my femur
11:19 <@nachoguy> wow
11:20 < ware> yuh, gonna be a wicked scar
11:20 < ware> got ~2 more months of recovery before im back on my feet without crutches / walker
11:32 <@nachoguy> brutal
11:35 < Todd> sdodson: hoser most likely.. life is still hectic
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11:52 <@Shadow404> ware: have you got checked up yet? is it healing alright?
11:52 < ware> 2 weeks ago they took my staples out
11:53 < ware> im going this afternoon for more xrays and to get more pills
11:53 <@Shadow404> did they take xrays to check healing?
11:53 <@polerin> nah
11:53 < ware> yeah 2 weeks ago they did as well
11:53 <@polerin> they were checking to see if they could make him grow a third leg.
11:53 <@Shadow404> awesome
11:53 <@Shadow404> gotta link us to the xray pics
11:53 < ware> then monday morning im going for surgery to get a screw taken out or adjusted close to my knee
11:54 <@Shadow404> eeek
11:54 < ware> yeah ive got physical copies but i havent had access to a scanner to try and scan them to digital
11:54 < ware> gonna put em online when i do
11:54 <@Shadow404> oh, wanna see something funny
11:54 < ware> always
11:55 <@Shadow404> http://www.shadow404.com/143.sizes@pellet_cheek.JPG?size1=O
11:55 <@Shadow404> xray of my upper jaw right side
11:55 <@Shadow404> with those new digital xray things
11:55 < ware> is that a bb gun pellet?!
11:55 <@Shadow404> can get them sent directly from the office to your personal email
11:55 <@Shadow404> aye
11:55 < ware> ROFL who shot you in the face?!
11:55 <@Shadow404> been there since i was 16
11:55 <@Shadow404> richochet off a rock behind the target
11:56 < ware> ahh that sucks
11:56 < ware> is it still there?
11:56 <@Shadow404> aye
11:56 <@Shadow404> yep
11:56 < ware> wont the lead in it cause problems?
11:56 <@Shadow404> talked to doctor at one of my checkups and he said, as long as the scar healed around it, that it will contain the lead
11:56 < ware> word, thats pretty interesting
11:56 <@Shadow404> if it starts to hurt or becomes infected we can remove it
11:56 <@Shadow404> otherwise its more risky going in after it
11:57 <@Shadow404> ware: to tell the truth, i didnt know it was lodged in there till after the xray
11:57 <@Shadow404> i thought to that day, it just knicked me
11:57 <@Shadow404> not went in
11:57 < ware> haha
11:58 < ware> we had some friends over once and one of em shot the other in the butt at point blank range
11:58 <@Shadow404> oww
11:58 < ware> he yelped and ran around for a minute then had to get some tweezers to dig out the bb
11:58 <@Shadow404> haha
11:58 <@Shadow404> funny
11:58 <@Shadow404> at least bb's are copper
11:58 < ware> but it came out haha, i remember him saying "I CAN FEEL IT ROLLING AROUND IN THERE AND I WANT IT OUT NOW!!!"
11:59 < ware> yeah im sure a pellet would have gone much deeper
11:59 <@Shadow404> haha, bet you havent let that episode down yet
11:59 < ware> eh dont talk to em anymore
12:00 <@Shadow404> ah
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12:01 < ware> one of them did shoot me between the eyes with a paintball gun once
12:01 < ware> didnt have a mask on and i fell over cause it stunned me
12:01 < ware> he ran off into the house and thought he was in trouble lol
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12:02 <@Shadow404> haha
12:02 <@Shadow404> did you get kniocked out?
12:06 < ware> nah just fell backwards
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12:06 < ware> kinda like that one video lol lemme find it
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12:07 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfcsCdZXxKc
12:07 < ware> hahaha
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15:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: so what you need to do is make the center pack the bass log and the bt transmitter and leave amplification up to the L/R
15:38 <@timoguin> Also you need a very small man in a bag that will occassionally freestyle to a simple beat.
15:39 < TelcoBob> m0j0-j0j0: yea, but that requires so much more battery weight
15:39 < TelcoBob> to amp at ever pack
15:39 < TelcoBob> and wed lose sound quality
15:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> but it would last twice as long without a recharge
15:39 < TelcoBob> the point isnt to be loud to to sound as hiquiality as we can
15:39 < TelcoBob> hahha the speakers are already about 60 pounds
15:40 < TelcoBob> >_<
15:40 < TelcoBob> we're gonna start experaminting with wireless as soon as weve got some money
15:40 <@timoguin> just get some bose speakers. everone knows bose speakers can be like 2 inches and sounds like an 18-inch sub.
15:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: yeah, but I was rocking a speaker and I could still drop it like it's hot
15:41 <@m0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: you just have to make sure that you have IG and me with you whenever you bust out the equipment
15:41 <@m0j0-j0j0> pack mules
15:42 < TelcoBob> m0j0-j0j0: with the new version though?
15:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> AND if you do it right you could have twice the quality of normal A2DP
15:43 <@m0j0-j0j0> TelcoBob: nope... I did it with V1
15:43 < TelcoBob> hahah they were light
15:43 < TelcoBob> the new ones are really heavy haha
15:44 < TelcoBob> the new ones have 5 lead acid batteries in each
15:44 < TelcoBob> and are made of semithick wood haha
15:44 < TelcoBob> it takes two people to put it on and take it off haha
15:44 < TelcoBob> what we need first is money so we can find a better way to powerit
15:45 < TelcoBob> i mean SLA are loike 5-6 pounds a piece
15:46 <@timoguin> Grind up a few kittens. That would power it for like a week.
15:46 < TelcoBob> hahaha
15:46 < TelcoBob> brb need a cig, but the next thing we are gonna work on is gettign the lightin back on it, weve got some police strobes and neons
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16:03 <@m0j0-j0j0> I would think that aluminum would be lighter than wood, but would have to be done correctly or it would vibrate
16:05 <@m0j0-j0j0> what are the odds of going small scale nuclear for power
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16:16 < xtort-> TELCOBOB!
16:18 < eryc> http://obama-weather.com/
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16:26 < xtort-> If you are the owner of this site and weren’t expecting to see this message, it could happen for a number of reasons:
16:26 < coil> fail xtort-
16:27 < coil> it work fine
16:27 < coil> s
16:28 < xtort-> if you say so
16:28 < coil> refresh
16:28 < xtort-> fail you, its busted
16:30 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUpaxwdB2d8
16:35 < coil> rofl eryc
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