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00:32 < eryc> someone should prosecute NASA for declaring war against the moon without congress approval
00:32 < coil> ask kruger: http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7294/doggie1yw.png
00:33 < eryc> now, why would i click on that
00:33 < eryc> its called "doggie" and its coming from you
00:33 < eryc> no thank
00:34 < coil> its not porn
00:34 < eryc> oh i bet it is
00:36 < eryc> damn
00:36 < eryc> you weren't lying
00:36 < eryc> BUT ITS REALLY FUCKING STUPID
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00:37 < coil> it just compares to your statement
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00:49 < [1NF0]> I'm going to need a few minutes of do-not-disturb time now... kthxbai
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00:52 <@Dagmar> eryc: He was lying.
00:52 <@Dagmar> It *is* porn.
00:52 <@Dagmar> It's some fucked up ferry hentai stuff.
00:52 <@Dagmar> s/ferry/furry/;
00:53 < coil> i mean they weren't having sex or anything
00:54 <@Dagmar> Man did you hear about the sexting thing in the news this morning?
00:55 <@Dagmar> The police are still actually considering felony child porn charges against all 30 students
00:55 <@Dagmar> That's um, a bit overkill
00:55 < [1NF0]> fo fux sake
00:56 <@Dagmar> Yeah frankly I'm thinking it should fall under the usual minimal age difference guideline for statutory and instead "just" throw the book at them for contributing to the delinquency of a minor
00:57 <@Dagmar> ...because the sex offender flag is way, way much to lay on some schoolkid's head
00:57 <@Dagmar> Definitely overkill for something like dirty thumbnails on a phone
00:57 < eryc> string em up
00:58  * eryc gets the pitchforks and torches ready
00:59 <@Dagmar> One thing is for sure, if they go for felony charges then a wholly different definition of child pornography applies than the one they're probably currently using
00:59 <@Dagmar> Some girl topless in an sassy pose won't cut it, and the charges will fail all around
00:59 <@Dagmar> Not useful
01:01 < eryc> we need to teach this scumbags a lesson
01:01 <@Dagmar> So give 'em a big fat community service sentence
01:01 < eryc> its only ok for police and the feds to watch child porn
01:02 <@Dagmar> I did see that part of the _girl's_ punishment is writing a report about "the dangers of sexting"
01:03 < eryc> how did the photo make it to the police
01:03 < eryc> why arent they prosecuted
01:03 <@Dagmar> Man you know teenage boys can't keep a lid on that sort of shit
01:03 < eryc> then, how did it make it to the detectives
01:03 < eryc> why arent the beat cops prosecuted
01:03 <@Dagmar> One parent finds out and then it's all oevr
01:04 <@Dagmar> I'm just glad they apparently iddn't have enough details to get Mike Galanos going
01:04 <@Dagmar> There's no telling what kind of crazy crap he's spin that into
01:05 <@Dagmar> By the end of his show he'd probably be publicly speculating that the entire thing was just the tiniest edge of some massive cyberspace child pornography ring
01:05 <@Dagmar> The day that dude finds out about 4chan, his head will fucking explode.
01:06 < eryc> ha
01:06 <@Dagmar> I think CNN needs to take Nancy Grace off the air, and tell Mike Galanos he's fucking next if he doesn't straighten his act up
01:06 <@Dagmar> So like, I kept seeing these bits today that were just so bitchy as to beg belief
01:07 <@Dagmar> That little trailer park girl whose stepchild got snatched awhile back interviewed with a morning show this week
01:07 <@tzanger> wtf
01:07 < eryc> well, the problem is there are a lot of people out there just like them
01:07 <@Dagmar> Clearly Nancy Grace is pissed that she wouldn't interview with _her_ so they spent the evening villifying her about it
01:07 <@Dagmar> Calling up bullshit "experts" to pretend they're on Lie To Me and make up silly shit as "proof" the girl is lying
01:08 < eryc> maybe a tornado snatched her up
01:08 <@Dagmar> They actually managed to bitch about her talking on the morning show, and *not* being willing to talk to nancy grace within the same half-hour block
01:08 <@Dagmar> To make things more ludicrous, apparently someone at CNN isn't amused with her shit
01:08 <@Dagmar> er Nancy Grace's shit
01:09 < eryc> yea obviously because she was afraid nancy's superb interviewing skills would expose the truth
01:09 <@Dagmar> One of the things Grace talked about was some woman the little girl had a bit of road rage with in Florida last week
01:09 <@Dagmar> eryc: Grace has already made one girl commit suicide
01:09 < eryc> awesome
01:09 < eryc> how the hell did they find someone in florida
01:09 < eryc> were charges filed for the rage?
01:10 <@Dagmar> So like, the tip-off that someone at CNN isn't amused with Grace is that outside of the show, CNN is showing a clip of the little girl explaining her side of it
01:10 <@Dagmar> Basically, what it probably amounts to is that some woman saw her in public and _recognized_ her, and believes every word Nancy Grace says, and must have called her out as a murderer or something.
01:11 <@Dagmar> Add to this that the girl was *still* cussing the woman when the police showed up, and she wasn't apparently locked up for it
01:11 <@Dagmar> So like, let's say you're a ninteen year old girl
01:11 <@Dagmar> You just married a guy with a kid, and you live in a trailer park
01:11 <@Dagmar> Clearly your life is pretty shit to begin with.
01:12 <@Dagmar> Now, add to this that someone snatches your kid in the middle of the night
01:12 <@Dagmar> ...and now CNN is *daily* trying to convince the entire country that you're the worst sort of trash who'd kill your kid and hide it in a dumpster or something
01:12 <@Dagmar> ...which means lots of people are just dumb enough to believe it regardless.
01:12 <@Dagmar> You now live in a trailer park and can't safely even go out.
01:13 <@Dagmar> FUCK YEAH any reasonable person would probably blow their stack if they drove to the next state to try to get away from it for a bit, and someone verbally assaults them
01:13 <@Dagmar> Nancy Grace on the other hand, in detail, paints this woman as a "stable person" and cites that she's a nurse, has a steady job, and so on
01:14 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm thinking to myself "Just the type of person to start calling a stranger names because of something she saw on TV"
01:14 <@Dagmar> So here we've got a distinct break between the two views on the same network
01:14 < eryc> we should get some talking points and start spamming the facebook cnn page
01:14 <@Dagmar> Man, it's trailer park drama
01:14 <@Dagmar> Literally this time.
01:14 <@Dagmar> I don't even want to sully my hands with it
01:14 < eryc> every news post ask if nancy grace is going to make Actor commit suicide, etc
01:14 <@Dagmar> I really feel sorry for that girl
01:14 <@Dagmar> OH...
01:15 <@Dagmar> The *other* factor to add to it
01:15 <@Dagmar> Her husband is _divorcing her_ now
01:15 <@Dagmar> Like, the little girl's life is trashed
01:15 <@Dagmar> No kid, no husband, crazy drama on the TV
01:16 <@Dagmar> If Nancy gets ahold of her, and she kills herself tho, I *will* start a campaign to request CNN put a leash on that bitch
01:16 < eryc> why is it not surprising she's from georgia
01:16 <@Dagmar> She's gone way, way past the point where any person who *wasn't* a newsanchor on a big station like CNN would have been sued for libel and defamation of character
01:17 <@Dagmar> I think perhaps they're just barely dodging very shaky legal ground on the basis of that the show is half "opinion" and half news.
01:17 <@Dagmar> "News" would be protected, but they're just wildly speculating about shit
01:17 <@Dagmar> ...and they're not doing anything useful.
01:17 < eryc> string em up!
01:18  * eryc preps the noose
01:18 <@Dagmar> The little asian college girl that vanished from the college lab... They were talking about that on Jean I'mhispanic Mitchell's spot
01:18 <@Dagmar> They were very interested in trying to spin it as a runaway bride story
01:18 <@Dagmar> That's pretty much all they were talking about, but they kept giving details that didn't fit
01:18 <@Dagmar> The asian girl's purse, ID, wallet, keys, and etc were still in her office.
01:19 <@Dagmar> That's a problem.
01:19 <@Dagmar> The place she was at is surrounded by cameras like the Steel Ring in the UK.
01:19 < eryc> she had jungle survival skills
01:19 <@Dagmar> The girl was seen going in, but not leaving
01:20 <@Dagmar> The girl had previously written a thing for the paper there about how to stay safe at night, so she's not an idiot mind you
01:20 < [1NF0]> she's in her desk
01:20 <@Dagmar> They mentioned that at about the time the girl was in the part of campus she was in, someone pulled a fire alarm
01:20 <@Dagmar> It was a false alarm.
01:20 < eryc> well she definitely doesnt win any awards
01:20 <@Dagmar> Think for a moment.
01:20 <@Dagmar> If you're being chased, and there's no explicit police call boxes around, wouldn't YOU pull a fire alarm?
01:21 <@Dagmar> 1nfo: Not her desk but she's definitely dead
01:21 <@Dagmar> They found her body, still in the building.
01:21 < eryc> i dunno if running to the basement is the best idea
01:21 < eryc> maybe she was hiding
01:21 <@Dagmar> Uh no.
01:21 <@Dagmar> She was found stuffed into a chase.
01:21 <@Dagmar> These are the utility crawlspaces between and under buildings.
01:22 < [1NF0]> ahh, interesting
01:22 < eryc> i hope the guy confesses
01:22 <@Dagmar> These women *could* have managed to figure out the fire alarm pull was related
01:22 <@Dagmar> They just weren't interested
01:22 <@Dagmar> eryc: He's completely fucked
01:23 <@Dagmar> They have badge access between labs there
01:23 <@Dagmar> The system logged him going into about a dozen places he never goes and has no call being in
01:23 < eryc> she's clearly a weak-minded soul who cowardly solicited her death by crazy labmate
01:23 < eryc> in a bid to avoid the wedding
01:24 < eryc> maybe theu'll make a movie about her
01:24 < eryc> like Scream
01:24 <@Dagmar> They were *touching* on making accusations about her fiance
01:24 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling someone lawyered up
01:25 < eryc> hm
01:25 < eryc> some girl at ucla got her throat slashed in chemistry lab last night
01:26 < eryc> kids these days
01:27 <@Dagmar> That was pretty fucked up
01:27 <@Dagmar> At least it looks like she'll be okay
01:27 <@Dagmar> Sounds like the other students had a grip on how to handle that sort of medical emergency
01:27 < eryc> IMF guy in Bethesda might make it too
01:28 < eryc> oh? well that was fortunate for her
01:28 <@Dagmar> This is why loons should only pie people.
01:29 <@Dagmar> You can apologize for the pie if it turns out you blamed the wrong person.
01:30 <@Dagmar> If you're going to be a loon about it, recognize that you're a loon, and use a pie.
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03:01 <@juice> Dagmar, tried out Heroes of Newerth yet?
03:03 <@Dagmar> I've tried it
03:03 <@Dagmar> I can't see anything useful I can do for them at the moment tho
03:03 <@Dagmar> I mean, I'm sure they know the issues I've seen
03:03 <@juice> what do u think of it?
03:04 <@Dagmar> It's well coded
03:04 <@Dagmar> IT NEEDS A FUCKING MANUAL
03:04 <@juice> true
03:04 <@juice> the website has most info now
03:05 <@juice> like items heroes recommend items and stats for item and hero usage
03:05 <@juice> they have videos up for about half the heroes or
03:05 <@Dagmar> Explaining WTF is going on in the interface would be a good start
03:05 <@juice> maybe a few more
03:05 <@juice> yeah
03:05 <@juice> i had no dota experience at all
03:05 <@juice> so it was a high learning curve for me
03:06 <@Dagmar> I watched a scout in a noob match come up and two shot me
03:06 <@Dagmar> I just quit out at 10-0
03:06 <@Dagmar> I was playing a strength toon
03:06 <@Dagmar> They clearly must know something' sup with the scout class since twice as many peopel are picking it as any other class
03:07 <@Dagmar> ...and when you start a match, you MUST make going to get a weapon upgrade, and the resulting racing all over the map in a killing frenzy THE top priority
03:07 <@Dagmar> Once the other guy gets two up on you, you're done.
03:08 <@juice> yeah
03:08 <@Dagmar> ...and is it just me or does the noob flag on matches mean *nothing*
03:08 <@juice> scout is very .... lets says
03:08 <@juice> has the upper hand
03:08 <@Dagmar> I was like, how the fuck is this guy level 19 already?
03:08 <@juice> i watched a guy be 29-4- whatever in assists
03:08 <@juice> yeah scout is cloackable all the time
03:08 <@juice> so that is how
03:08 <@Dagmar> I have a BIG problem with them using the term "carry", too
03:09 <@juice> he just goes invisible
03:09 <@juice> i accidentally killed scout
03:09 <@juice> doing my ultimate
03:09 <@juice> he wasn't there appeared as I did my ulti
03:09 <@Dagmar> They've defined gameplay as a very specific set of boring as hell techniques, and appear to have built the game around it
03:10 <@juice> i can be out leveled by 5-6 levels a lot
03:10 <@juice> and still get kills
03:10 <@juice> but it sucks
03:10 <@juice> after 2 it is pretty hard
03:10 <@juice> to stay with them
03:10 <@Dagmar> They need to turn off the bloody announcements for newb matches too
03:10 <@juice> but you get decent items you can win
03:10 <@juice> lol
03:10 <@Dagmar> No one wants to hear the game cheering on the other guy when you're getting killed so fast you barely get a chance to swing your weapon
03:11 <@juice> yeah
03:11 <@juice> the blood lust, and all that
03:11 <@juice> ?
03:11 <@juice> where the announcer commentates on your progress
03:11 <@juice> lol
03:11 <@Dagmar> They may need to try to force a culture change among the players before release, too
03:12 <@juice> yeah right now it's you suck if you don't know it
03:12 <@Dagmar> That carry business and the linearity of the open is going to turn away a lot of people
03:12 <@juice> or they will kick people from the game for low psr
03:12 <@juice> or no matches played
03:12 <@juice> can be annoying
03:12 <@juice> i make a lot of my matches
03:13 <@juice> the 6 items/ 6 stash is a pain
03:13 <@Dagmar> All the forum people talk like the jackasses on the WoW forums who ruin it for everyone
03:13 <@juice> because not all items can be moved at outpost or secret shop
03:13 <@Dagmar> If you're not unquestionably doing THE single best thing int he game, you suck, and your class sucks, and you suck some more
03:14 <@Dagmar> Not a lot of people are going to be too keen on a game so dependent on running a particular course to buy shit
03:16 < jnds> folks in se2600 are talking about HoN?
03:16 <@Dagmar> Yes
03:16 <@juice> yeah
03:16 <@Dagmar> It's very pretty, but gameplay is unrewarding
03:16 <@juice> i am afraid open beta
03:16 <@Dagmar> Seems like way too much work to me
03:17 <@juice> is going to be a all out yelling match
03:17 <@Dagmar> This coming from a guy who has recently brushed up on his statistics and calculus for WoW
03:17 <@juice> between the people that have been playing and the newbs
03:17 <@Dagmar> I pretty much expect the guys from CB to act like total cocks, too
03:17 <@juice> my stats suck since I had no dota expiereince
03:17 <@juice> however the past 2 weeks my play has gotten really good
03:17 <@juice> compared to the first 4 weeks
03:18 <@Dagmar> If they don't fix that newb flag thing, I suspect an OB will just hurt their sales
03:18 <@juice> what's the flag?
03:18 <@juice> i don't remember one
03:18 <@Dagmar> When you set up a match you can flag it as newbie only
03:18 <@juice> oh yeah
03:18 <@juice> or noobs allowed
03:18 <@juice> and pro
03:18 <@Dagmar> It doesnt' appear to do a damn thing but suffice as a way for suckering _actual_ newbs
03:19 <@juice> got ya
03:19 <@juice> yeah
03:19 <@juice> it's a 50/50 chance
03:19 <@Dagmar> This will fail large at enticing people during OB
03:19 <@juice> you either play noobs or get them on your team
03:19 <@juice> so ...
03:19 <@juice> also once it is final
03:19 <@juice> you can play locally
03:19 <@juice> which will help to learn it
03:19 < jnds> the tier system is suppose ot make it so that people that are new play others that are also new
03:20 <@juice> also there is practice
03:20 <@juice> under server choose practive
03:20 < jnds> but it's bugged at the moment and any level can join any tier
03:20 <@juice> practice
03:20 <@juice> when you create a game
03:20 <@juice> then you can learn the crap
03:20 <@juice> under that there is a test tab
03:20 <@juice> you can add heroes
03:20 <@juice> max level, get any items get 50000 goldor so
03:21 <@Dagmar> The internal rating system is also clueless.
03:21 <@juice> so it makes it nice you can see how the items work and at different levels
03:21 <@juice> yeah the psr is just lame
03:21 <@Dagmar> before the match I was looking at the top where it said I had like an 83% chance to win against someone who was claiming to have just started yesterday
03:21 <@juice> the k:d:a is okay
03:21 <@juice> but psr means crap
03:21 <@Dagmar> I thought I was going to have to go easy to make it not cruel
03:21 <@juice> I have been on a team out ranked 80-20
03:21 <@Dagmar> Seven hits and three deaths later...
03:22 <@juice> and we as 20% had the match won in 15minutes
03:22 <@Dagmar> In CLOSE QUARTERS COMBAT even
03:22 <@Dagmar> I was like, what the fuck is a ranged class doing running right up on me and killing me like thta
03:22 <@juice> hmm
03:22 <@juice> what hero u use?
03:22 <@juice> i been using swiftblade
03:22 <@Dagmar> The big flaming strength guy
03:23 <@juice> behemoth?
03:23 <@Dagmar> I figured it looked like a tank setup so I could stand a bit of beating and maybe figure some things out
03:23 <@juice> or ...
03:23 <@Dagmar> He was demonic?  I don't know if that helps
03:23 <@juice> magmus
03:23 <@Dagmar> Probably
03:23 <@juice> i'm sure it was
03:24 <@Dagmar> Sorry, no.  Accursed
03:24 <@juice> okay
03:24 <@juice> i was going to say that one too
03:25 <@juice> Automatically activates when Accursed's health drops below 400.
03:25 <@juice> wow nice ulti
03:25 <@juice> didn't know that
03:25 <@juice> i've played a limited group of heroes
03:25 <@juice> I need to play them all so I know how to fight them all beter
03:25 <@juice> better
03:26 < [1NF0]> Can't play just one ;)
03:26 <@Dagmar> Yes that skill works great when you have no idea it's there.
03:26 <@Dagmar> Doesn't help a damn bit after theyv'e got two upgrades on you
03:26 <@juice> yeah
03:26 <@Dagmar> it's just one more mouseclick before you die
03:26 <@juice> yep
03:26 <@juice> the main reason I die
03:27 <@juice> is I get stunned then ganked
03:27 <@juice> gets annoying
03:27 <@juice> stunned and I can't use my skills
03:28 <@juice> jnds you played it?
03:29 <@juice> or just read about it
03:29 < jnds> yeah I got about 240 games in
03:29 < jnds> since I'm a huge nerd
03:29 <@juice> hmm
03:29 <@juice> i'm at like 187
03:29 <@juice> whats your nick on it?
03:29 <@juice> mines juicejar
03:30 < jnds> jagobah
03:30 <@juice> k
03:30 <@juice> this morning I played a clan
03:30 <@juice> thought we would die since 5 people that play together
03:30 <@juice> but we owned them
03:31 <@juice> and none of us had played together
03:31 <@juice> was funny
03:31 <@juice> i've played 1700+ psr people that suck
03:31 <@juice> and 1100 that are good
03:43 <@juice> http://beta.heroesofnewerth.com/view_bugs.php?thread=12578
03:43 <@juice> There are no non-stat ranked games and it makes it so competitive that you get everyone calling you a noob and swearing at you for every little thing you do wrong.
03:47 < jnds> its beta don't get worked up over it
03:50 <@juice> hehe
03:51 <@juice> yeah I guess the reset stats once already
03:53 <@juice> since the beta has been going
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07:18 <@Evilpig> haha http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&layer=c&cbll=43.658133,-79.565675&panoid=Xt_AZy6Y-RPxZ7WhfBhlIg&cbp=12,134.8,,1,2.4&ll=43.658126,-79.565519&spn=0,359.990355&z=17
07:54 <@rhia> http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_85450751_2?ie=UTF8&docId=1000428481&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=top-3&pf_rd_r=17AG905ENSQS916JN30V&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=493181671&pf_rd_i=52129011
07:54 <@rhia> don't hink "new & used" quite works
07:54 <@rhia> *think
07:56 < miniMerc> k
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11:59 <@sdodson> coil:  :(
12:09 <@sdodson> wtf happened to ware/
12:22 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: Bitch driver pulled out in front of his cycle
12:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Broke his leg, is in the hospital
12:23 <@sdodson> That sucks.
12:23 <@sdodson> mostly because he can't unban me from the hospital bed
12:23 <@sdodson> i kid i kid
12:23 <@Corydon76-dig> actually, he can
12:23 <@Corydon76-dig> He's got wireless access
12:24 <@Corydon76-dig> but half the time, he's loopy on pain meds
12:24 <@sdodson> My dad has a similar femur rod. They never took his out. I wonder if they'll take his out.
12:25 <@Corydon76-dig> probably depends upon how well it heals
12:25 <@Corydon76-dig> He's young and doesn't have diabetes, so he should heal reasonably well
12:31 <@sdodson> my dad was 40 or so when he had his accident
12:32 <@sdodson> Oh and he was born with polio
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14:42 < twisterCookies> Hi
16:37 < miniMerc> "under barack, i've not had one home invasion. under bush, i was pistol whipped 7 times."
16:39 <@Catonic> That's because you didn't think you needed a gun until you thought Obama was going to take them away.
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19:51 < Synx_hm> anyone know abythign about Frobenius Methoud for solving ODE's?
19:51 < Synx_hm> anything
19:53 < Synx_hm> please god know what i am talking about
19:53 < Synx_hm> this is making me seriously thing twice about doing this masters haha
19:58 < [1NF0]> if I knew what an ODE was, who Frobenius was, and what his method was, I might be able to help :-/
19:58 < Synx_hm> i feel the same way
19:58 < Synx_hm> i have got to take a test today as tomorrow is the last day to take it and ill be on the road driving to atlanta
19:58 < Synx_hm> too bad i cant solve either of the problems on the homework
19:59 < [1NF0]> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frobenius_method  is absolutely mind boggling too
19:59 < Synx_hm> ya and my text book is horrible so its no use either
19:59 < Synx_hm> shrug
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22:04 <@devoid> hi
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