--- Log opened Tue Aug 25 00:00:30 2009
00:32 <@Catonic> hello hello
00:32 <@Catonic> I'm at a place called vertigo
00:32 <@sdodson> CATONICA HI
00:32 <@Catonic> it's everything I wish I didn't know, except third shift
00:32 <@Catonic> gives me time... to free-associate
00:32 <@sdodson> Catonic: are you drunk ?
00:33 <@Catonic> absolutely not.
00:33 <@sdodson> Catonic: good, then explain your bullshit ^^?
00:33 <@Catonic> my coworks fuck up entirely too much during the day to go in drunk anymore.
00:33 <@Catonic> youtube: U2 vertigo + filk
00:33 <@sdodson> how many people on your team?
00:33 <@Catonic> 3
00:34 <@Catonic> well...
00:34 <@Catonic> three on my paygrade, then one senior cowork responsible for $system and the director. $other_senior_cowork supports another big project
00:35 <@Catonic> and the director gets his hands into things all the time... he's not just an administrivia guy, he works for a living too
00:35 <@Catonic> this most recent project has everyone on my paygrade working around the clock
00:36 <@Catonic> three guys, 8 hrs each 24x7.
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00:37 <@sdodson> Administrivia is not mutually exclusive with working for a living.
00:37 <@sdodson> Watching systems or implementing new shit?
00:58 <@Catonic> both
00:59 <@Catonic> it's one of those where there's enough items to do on the spreadsheet that they drop from all levels and when one is missed and deemed important by the user, it's recalled and processed
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01:27 <@Dagmar> Sounds like it's time for each admin to take a half hour each shift to think about nothing but automation
01:28 < mudsplatter> why
01:29 < mudsplatter> why not just think about cats
01:30 <@Dagmar> Because when tasks start dropping you don't really have a choice anymore
01:30 <@Dagmar> You can't exactly make admins work faster, because they don't like, type slowly or osmething
01:30 < mudsplatter> ....
01:30 < mudsplatter> admin = bad
01:30 <@Dagmar> ...and you can't readily redirect that load elsewhere unless you want to invite eventual pay cuts
01:30 <@Dagmar> ...but you *can* make a small investment in working smarter.
01:31 < mudsplatter> just dont work
01:31 < mudsplatter> my tax evasion scam
01:34 < mudsplatter> just work slow
01:34 < mudsplatter> make people think ur retared
01:34 < mudsplatter> so they dont get u to do stuff
01:45 <@Dagmar> Nah, then the place folds
01:45 <@Dagmar> ...or worse yet, it zombies along with people's projects breaking and you have to listen to them complaina bout it all the time
01:45 <@Dagmar> Better to do smart stuff so other people can't fail and whine about it
01:45 < mudsplatter> its fine
01:45 < mudsplatter> just sing in ur head
01:45 < mudsplatter> it works
01:46 <@Dagmar> Nah.  Turns into screaming.
01:46 < mudsplatter> just smile
01:46 < mudsplatter> and talk to ur self
01:46 <@Dagmar> Like most of us don't do THAT already
01:46 < mudsplatter> or blame hackers on steriods
01:46 <@Dagmar> Try and put five admins in a quiet room together and see if they're not all muttering to themselves within the hour
01:46 < mudsplatter> i sing
01:46 <@Dagmar> Five admins _working_
01:47 < mudsplatter> rofl
01:47 < mudsplatter> working
01:47 < mudsplatter> my ass
01:47 < mudsplatter> u only need 3 poeple
01:47 < mudsplatter> u grunts
01:47 < mudsplatter> and one person that types n stuff
01:47 <@Catonic> Dagmar: we've got 3.5 on the project. and we're in the same boat that you are, except we don't have shitload of smarter people walking around everywhere.
01:47 < mudsplatter> .....
01:47 < mudsplatter> go to the cisco place
01:47 < mudsplatter> they write there passwords on post it notes
01:47 <@Dagmar> Well some of 'em at my place are pretty keyed up right now
01:47 <@Catonic> it's very much a do the work, and if you think of a smarter way to do it, implement it if you have time.
01:48 < mudsplatter> but in all things
01:48 < mudsplatter> its not what u think is the best way
01:48 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Yeah this is why I was saying devote a half hour explicitly to planning ahead for smarter work
01:48 < mudsplatter> it is wut the officers say is the best way
01:48 <@Catonic> and I've already looked at automation. I can get it all automated on the Exchange side, but Netbackup isn't designed to do those sort of things from the command line.
01:48 <@Dagmar> 3-4 days of that and you're SURELY going to wind up with at least *some* timesaving tool
01:48 < mudsplatter> or
01:48 < mudsplatter> pull the fire alarm
01:48 <@Dagmar> ...which would be a cost of what... six man hours total?
01:49 < mudsplatter> distribute the establishment
01:50 < mudsplatter> the problem is admins are a dime a dozen
01:50 < mudsplatter> u will always be the taker of the shit
01:51 < mudsplatter> try to get a better postion
01:51 < mudsplatter> make money
01:51 < mudsplatter> make more money
01:51 < mudsplatter> make other people make money for you
01:52 < mudsplatter> unless u like to be a admin
01:53 <@Catonic> Dagmar: we've looked into it, its just not something the software supports
01:53 < mudsplatter> like what i learned in the military "shit rolls down hill"
01:53 <@Catonic> I prefer to automate as much as possible, but it's very much a "work harder, not smarter" type of environment.
01:58 < mudsplatter> error id10t
02:03 < mudsplatter> wow
02:03 < mudsplatter> i just played the worst game ever
02:03 < mudsplatter> soldier of fortune
02:06 <@Dagmar> Oh
02:06 <@Dagmar> My
02:06 <@Dagmar> God
02:06 < mudsplatter> wut
02:06 <@Dagmar> I just found the best iPhone app better
02:06 < mudsplatter> rofl
02:06 <@Dagmar> er ever
02:06 < mudsplatter> the shot counter?
02:06 <@Dagmar> You doubt this?
02:07 <@Dagmar> http://www.bannedinhollywood.com/jemaine-clement-soundalike-endorses-what-could-be-the-greatest-iphone-app-ever-invented-wobble/
02:07 <@Dagmar> Tell me it's not awesome
02:07 < mudsplatter> wut is it
02:07 <@Dagmar> They'll probably ban it tomorrow because of this but for now... wow
02:07 < mudsplatter> i have script blocker
02:07 <@Dagmar> Just watch the video
02:08 < mudsplatter> best app ever
02:08 < mudsplatter> ya
02:08 < mudsplatter> u win
02:10 < mudsplatter> the booty shakes to
02:10 < mudsplatter> the dong moves to
02:10 < mudsplatter> .....
02:10 < mudsplatter> im strangly turned on
02:13 <@Dagmar> It's amazing just because of the simplicity
02:13 < mudsplatter> well
02:13 < mudsplatter> when u have more then 1 girl
02:13 < mudsplatter> they all move in motion
02:13 < mudsplatter> yet we as men know boob movements are random at best
02:14 < mudsplatter> when girl moves
02:14 < mudsplatter> ./etc
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02:14 <@Dagmar> Man there's so many other things you could wobble, like Obama's head
02:14 < mudsplatter> .....
02:14 < mudsplatter> rofl
02:15 < mudsplatter> all the rebublicns
02:15 < mudsplatter> are doing that
02:15 < mudsplatter> probally
02:15 <@Dagmar> He's so skinny it would look hilarious
02:18 < mudsplatter> freshclam
02:18 < mudsplatter> blah sry
02:18 < sudopod> lolwut
02:19 < mudsplatter> i was going to update clam av
02:19 < mudsplatter> i tried this clam av
02:19 < mudsplatter> it does not work
02:19 < mudsplatter> if u zip a virus 2 times
02:20 < mudsplatter> it wont pick it up
02:20 <@Dagmar> Very few things will try to see how deeply nested you hit your stuff
02:20 <@Dagmar> ...cuz you could put a zip into itself a thousand times and it woudln't get very big
02:22 < mudsplatter> http://www.boycottgillette.com/
02:22 < mudsplatter> i know its true with the RFID thing
02:23 < mudsplatter> they were one of the first comanys to push RFID tagging
02:23 < mudsplatter> dint know about the cams
02:24 < mudsplatter> RFID is one of the things that scare me
02:24 < mudsplatter> to shit
02:25 < mudsplatter> if any of you guys want RFID books or info just ask
02:30 <@Dagmar> So what if they're tagging their razors
02:30 <@Dagmar> It's overkill but it's not for tracking customers
02:31 < mudsplatter> its for transport
02:31 < mudsplatter> and tracking of the item
02:31 <@Dagmar> The RFID is not in the damn razors
02:31 <@Dagmar> It's on the packaging
02:31 < mudsplatter> it looks like UHF tag
02:32 < mudsplatter> just SQL inject the tag
02:32 <@Dagmar> That site is a "conspiracy nut" site
02:32 <@Dagmar> So you realize no one's ever going to read the ones you find in the store
02:32 < mudsplatter> there is no read/write on it probally
02:32 < mudsplatter> the tags?
02:32 <@Dagmar> Yes.
02:32 < mudsplatter> hehe
02:32 < mudsplatter> ido
02:32 < mudsplatter> i do
02:32 <@Dagmar> The ones that make it to a store and get sold, no one gives a shit about
02:32 < mudsplatter> ya
02:32 < mudsplatter> no one cares
02:33 <@Dagmar> note that you WILL, however, find a great many of their razors for sale on ebay mysteriously
02:33 < mudsplatter> i just do it to see the data
02:33 < mudsplatter> if there paranoid they can kill the rfid tag
02:33 <@Dagmar> They're tagging them so that when fuckers steal them in bulk from like Walgreens or wherever and sell them on eBay, they can buy a few and then send cops over
02:33 < mudsplatter> ya
02:34 < mudsplatter> http://events.ccc.de/congress/2005/static/r/f/i/RFID-Zapper(EN)_77f3.html
02:34 <@Dagmar> ...which, given how cheap they are, is pretty smart
02:34 < mudsplatter> well the more poeple know
02:34 < mudsplatter> the smarter they will be
02:34 < mudsplatter> www.rfdump.org
02:34 < mudsplatter> to mod the tags
02:34 <@Dagmar> The information on that site is misrepresented
02:34 < mudsplatter> kinda sorta
02:34 <@Dagmar> Very.
02:34 <@Dagmar> Not just kinda
02:34 < mudsplatter> i understand from the privacy stand point
02:34 < mudsplatter> but i am paranoid
02:35 < mudsplatter> its not used to track people
02:35 <@Dagmar> Just calling them "spy chips" sends a very clear message which entails FAR more than just inventory control
02:35 < mudsplatter> well dude
02:35 < mudsplatter> they are sowing in to clothing
02:35 < mudsplatter> and u dont know about it
02:35 <@Dagmar> "Hidden cameras in GILLETTE spy shelves take mug shots of people who pick up their products!" <-- and this is a damn lie
02:35 < mudsplatter> well its possiable
02:35 < mudsplatter> if they have a rfid reader
02:36 < mudsplatter> and it is set to go off when it losses a tag
02:36 < mudsplatter> but it would be expensive
02:36 < mudsplatter> as hell
02:36 <@Dagmar> Yes.
02:36 <@Dagmar> ...which is part of the reason it would be stupid as hell.
02:36 <@Dagmar> You could just hire a flunky to watch the racks for cheaper
02:36 < mudsplatter> http://news.cnet.com/2010-1069-980325.html
02:37 < mudsplatter> the tags are pennys
02:37 < mudsplatter> i saw in rfid live Fujutisu
02:37 < mudsplatter> was there
02:37 < mudsplatter> and in the clothing where 13.56 chips
02:37 < mudsplatter> or uhf
02:37 < mudsplatter> u cannot tell
02:37 < mudsplatter> the antenna is sown in
02:38 <@Dagmar> I'm perfectly aware.
02:38 < mudsplatter> that is is scary
02:38 <@Dagmar> Acting like the sky is falling because it is merely possible is not useful.
02:38 < mudsplatter> hahah
02:38 < mudsplatter> but be aware
02:38 <@Dagmar> It burns your credibility that you will eventually NEED if/when you find someone actually DOING something sinister with them
02:39 < mudsplatter> ya
02:39 < mudsplatter> dude
02:39 < mudsplatter> they do
02:39 < mudsplatter> already
02:39 <@Dagmar> No, they actually don't
02:40 <@Dagmar> Most companies really don't give a rat's ass
02:40 < mudsplatter> they clone tags
02:40 < mudsplatter> steal items
02:40 < mudsplatter> i may be bias
02:40 < mudsplatter> but it does happen
02:40 <@Dagmar> Stores steal from themselves do they?
02:41 < mudsplatter> no
02:41 < mudsplatter> people stealing
02:41 < mudsplatter> from labs
02:41 < mudsplatter> and stores
02:41 <@Dagmar> Simple theft happens.
02:42 < mudsplatter> using rfid
02:42 <@Dagmar> People have been switching tags and tampering with bar codes since before I was even born
02:42 < mudsplatter> ya
02:43 < mudsplatter> i see ur point
02:43 < mudsplatter> but in senstive areas
02:44 < mudsplatter> it should be secure
02:44 < mudsplatter> ie hospitals
02:44 < mudsplatter> pharmacies
02:44 <@Dagmar> Hospitals can't keep track of shit
02:44 <@Dagmar> They desperately need RFID
02:44 < mudsplatter> rofl
02:44 < mudsplatter> i know
02:44 < mudsplatter> i know
02:45 < mudsplatter> i understand where ur coming from
02:45 <@Dagmar> RFID is somewhat of a solution looking for a good problem
02:46 < mudsplatter> well in libarys
02:46 < mudsplatter> it would hlp
02:46 < mudsplatter> help
02:46 <@Dagmar> It's awesome for computerized inventory tracking, hands down
02:46 < mudsplatter> but people could get fucked up in hospitals
02:46 < mudsplatter> well u should have been there at the rfid conf they hate secuirty poeple
02:46 <@Dagmar> Would you or would you not ratehr an alarm go off if a nurse approached you with someone else's meds by accident?
02:47 < mudsplatter> ya if the tag was not fucked with
02:47 <@Dagmar> They're too busy freaking out about the possibliity that yes, you COULD use it to build a sensor network that would make George Orwell shit himself
02:47 < mudsplatter> http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Miami-Man-to-Sue-VA-Hospital-for-HIV-53718057.html
02:48 < mudsplatter> this is at the VA i go to......
02:48 <@Dagmar> mudsplatter: How would someone mucking about with the tags in the hospital be any different from someone sneaking into the dispensary and switching a bunch of pills around
02:48 <@Dagmar> Do not blame something for a pre-existing problem
02:48 < mudsplatter> u dont need to make contact
02:48 <@Dagmar> It's kinda looking at it backwards even citing that
02:48 < mudsplatter> changing oxy cotin to asprin for the lulz
02:49 <@Dagmar> They're basically for tests that involve positive response only answers
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02:49 <@Dagmar> Anything else is off the table because it's too easily an invalid statement
02:49 < mudsplatter> its not hard to do it
02:49 < mudsplatter> just a matter of time
02:49 < mudsplatter> till some one does
02:50 <@Dagmar> You can use them to say decisively that yes, the medicine prescribed by Doctor X for Patient Y has been placed in the tray that is now going to the patient's room
02:50 <@Dagmar> ...and yes the tray in front of the patient contains the things that were prescribed for them and no other things are present with tags
02:50 <@Dagmar> The key thing being made obvious right there
02:51 <@Dagmar> You can not, with RFID, determine if something NOT tagged is present
02:51 < mudsplatter> ya
02:51 < mudsplatter> and
02:52 <@Dagmar> ...and you could never ever again have the "Where did we leave the senile lady?" problem if you tagged the patient badges
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02:52 < mudsplatter> rofl
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02:53 < mudsplatter> "where am i"
02:53 <@Dagmar> You're seldom in a hospital unless you are MUCH MORE LIKELY TO DIE than usual
02:53 < mudsplatter> "why am i wearing pants"
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02:53 <@Dagmar> This I suspect would warrant overriding worrying about whether or not your every move _in the hospital_ is tracked if you're a patient
02:54 <@Dagmar> If you're mobile, you could go to the commissary and an orderly could know to bring your meds to you there
02:54 < mudsplatter> hahhaha
02:54 < mudsplatter> god
02:54 < mudsplatter> u know a good mp3 player
02:54 < mudsplatter> in linux
02:54 <@Dagmar> The stuff they talk about department stores tracking you is just weak
02:54 < mudsplatter> i just want something similar to winamp
02:55 < mudsplatter> o im not worried about that
02:55 < mudsplatter> im worried about the other aspects
02:55 <@Dagmar> I use whatever Gnome thinks is the player du jour
02:55 < juice2> xmms? or audacious?
02:55 <@Catonic> mudsplatter: I'm here to get a BS in BS. And doing quite well at it.
02:55 < mudsplatter> rfid in passports.....
02:55 <@Dagmar> Doing those without an RF shield in them is stupid, yes
02:55 <@dc0de> sup Catonic
02:55  * juice2 didn't see all the convo
02:55 <@dc0de> what has you up so late?
02:55 <@Dagmar> Plain fuckign dumb.
02:55 < juice2> on the winamp thing
02:55 <@dc0de> Hey dagmar...
02:56 <@Catonic> dc0de: working 3rd shift until further notice.
02:56 <@Dagmar> dc0de: Yes?
02:56 < juice2> hi Dagmar and dc0de
02:56 <@dc0de> Dagmar, just saying hey...
02:56 <@Dagmar> Yo
02:56 < mudsplatter> this place is great
02:56 <@dc0de> Catonic, did you want 3rd?
02:56 <@Dagmar> Oi did you see the robot hand video?
02:56 <@dc0de> sup juice
02:56 <@Catonic> nice part about working 3rds... I get to plug in my computer to the speakers.
02:56 <@dc0de> Dagmar, link please, i think I missed it.
02:56 < mudsplatter> rofl
02:56 <@Dagmar> Holy crap I need to watch the guys who built it and find out what company they go to work for
02:56 < mudsplatter> u cant do it normally?
02:56 <@Dagmar> Lemme dig it up
02:56 < juice2> Dagmar so I tried friday to build pidgin 2.6.1 on 12.1 and it failed in the dbs now it just worked
02:57 < juice2> and I didn't change anything
02:57 <@Dagmar> I have honestly NEVER seen a control system this tight
02:57 < juice2> go figure
02:57 <@Dagmar> Crazy
02:57 < mudsplatter> in wut
02:57 < mudsplatter> juice
02:57 < mudsplatter> what build
02:57 < mudsplatter> are u using
02:57 < juice2> it was spewing libtool-2.2.6a debian errors
02:57 < juice2> mudsplatter of?
02:57 < mudsplatter> lin
02:57 <@Dagmar> http://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/gadget-freak/2009/08/dexter---the-high-speed-robot.html
02:57 < mudsplatter> deb?
02:57 < juice2> slackware
02:57 < mudsplatter> ooo
02:57 < juice2> 12.1 here
02:57 <@Dagmar> That thing is CRAZY
02:57 < mudsplatter> ok
02:58 < juice2> 12.2 at home and 13.0rc2 in vbox
02:58 <@Dagmar> When you see it flip a cell phone into the air and catch it, it'll blow you away
02:58 <@Dagmar> It's 'holy shit' fast
02:58 < mudsplatter> u see the lap top in the ass video
02:58 <@dc0de> watching now.
02:59 <@Dagmar> Japanese prodigy kids would feel inferior
02:59 < mudsplatter> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8219005.stm
02:59 < mudsplatter> this is neat
03:00 <@Dagmar> That hand could type on it at about 10,000 wpm
03:01 <@dc0de> that's fucking crazy...
03:01 < mudsplatter> the netbook?
03:01 <@dc0de> I want that to write all my reports.
03:01 <@dc0de> no, the robotic hand.
03:01 < mudsplatter> ooo
03:01 < mudsplatter> hahah
03:01 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure it could do it iwth a little coding
03:02 < mudsplatter> well any of u guys have the air cards
03:02 <@Catonic> got something like this plugged into an old boombox at the office: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/493590-REG/Sony_SS_B1000_SS_B1000_2_Way_Bookshelf_Speakers.html
03:02 <@dc0de> I already have a netbook
03:02 <@Catonic> they sound very nice. Even at 4W per channel.
03:02 < mudsplatter> what u got code?
03:02 <@Catonic> dc0de: no, I didn't want 3rd shift, I got stuck on it.
03:02 <@Catonic> and we're working seven days a week on this project.
03:03 <@dc0de> Catonic, sorry to hear that...
03:03 <@Dagmar> Oh wait
03:03 <@Dagmar> lol
03:03 <@dc0de> mudsplatter, I have an Asus eeePc 1000HE.
03:03 <@Dagmar> dc0de: Here's the test... which is more awesome
03:03 <@Dagmar> The hand, or this http://www.bannedinhollywood.com/jemaine-clement-soundalike-endorses-what-could-be-the-greatest-iphone-app-ever-invented-wobble/
03:03 < mudsplatter> ubuntu
03:03 < mudsplatter> or wut
03:03 < mudsplatter> win?
03:04 <@dc0de> Dagmar, that's easy... it involves breasts... it wins
03:04 <@dc0de> mudsplatter, both.
03:04 <@Dagmar> I figured you'd appreciate that app
03:04 < mudsplatter> u think it can play videos
03:04 < mudsplatter> with out it lagging
03:05 <@Dagmar> Don't really wanna hear about otehr phoens right now
03:05 <@Dagmar> I'm still working out just how much Palm pisses me off
03:06 <@dc0de> my netbook plays videos fine.
03:06 <@Dagmar> The 800w does that stupidly jacked up bucket brigade thing when you push something to the SD card through USB
03:06 <@Dagmar> Oh the netbook?
03:06 <@dc0de> yeah
03:06 <@Dagmar> Yes the thing will play aything short of single-sliced h.264
03:06 <@dc0de> the eeePC is pretty good.
03:06 <@Dagmar> I dunno about their VC-1 accelleration either
03:06 <@dc0de> the skype is great, even on my verizon air card.
03:07 <@dc0de> well I'm off to sleepy time... 'gnite all...
03:07 <@dc0de> Catonic, stop jerking off on the keyboard...
03:08 <@dc0de> Dagmar, keep everyone in line... :)
03:08 < mudsplatter> ...
03:08 < juice2> dc0de going to pn?
03:08 < mudsplatter> rofl
03:08 <@dc0de> juice, perhaps... I'm in San Diego on Contract ATM.
03:08 <@dc0de> we'll see...
03:08 < juice2> ic
03:08 < juice2> okay cool
03:08 <@dc0de> l8
03:08 < mudsplatter> ahh whales vagina
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03:09 <@Catonic> sigh.
03:09 <@Catonic> I love when you page over just to find out..
03:10 < juice2> http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=32808
03:10 < juice2> http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=15808
03:11 <@Dagmar> The "Real vampires" one in the corner is funny
03:11 < mudsplatter> ....
03:11 < juice2> Dagmar they change for everyone
03:11 < juice2> link?
03:11 < juice2> the corner 4
03:11 < juice2> they are random
03:12 <@Dagmar> Gone now.  Oh well
03:12 < juice2> :P
03:12 <@Dagmar> One side had Blade looking shirtless and especially muscled up
03:12 <@Dagmar> said "VAMPIRE" under it
03:12 < juice2> aww
03:12 <@Dagmar> The other side had a head shot of that pasty kid from Twilight.
03:12 <@Dagmar> It said "FAGGOT" under it.
03:12 < juice2> heh
03:13 <@Dagmar> Nice contrast
03:13 <@Dagmar> heh
03:13 < mudsplatter> twilight...
03:13 <@Dagmar> Yes the tween vampire love story crap
03:14 <@Catonic> lol
03:14 <@Catonic> s/tween/twink/
03:14 <@Dagmar> The ponce on the left http://www.twilightthemovie.com/
03:14 <@Dagmar> I'm sorry he's just the first time I've seen even a halfway serious vampire role to someone who couldn't pull off "threatening" to save his life
03:16 <@Dagmar> Goths are sullen, but not emo
03:16 <@Dagmar> This kid is emo
03:16 <@Dagmar> eeeeeemo
03:24 < Falun> i'm not sure this is supposed to be a halfway serious vampire role though
03:24 < Falun> i mean, he sparkles
03:24 <@Dagmar> heheh
03:24 < Falun> a friend of mine described the series as "worse than bad fan fiction"
03:25 <@Dagmar> The actual book is worse
03:25 <@Catonic> the difference between goth and emo is simple
03:25 < mudsplatter> ....
03:26 <@Catonic> when an emo gets depressed, he cuts himself.
03:26 <@Catonic> with a goth gets depressed, he beats the hell out of everyone around him.
03:26 < mudsplatter> rofl
03:26 < mudsplatter> i need a emo gf
03:26 < mudsplatter> gath?
03:26 < Falun> why is that?
03:26 < mudsplatter> which one does dishs?
03:27 <@Catonic> when a goth does dishes... you don't worry about dishes again.
03:27 < mudsplatter> i dont get it
03:27 <@Catonic> when an emo does dishes, you fuck his girlfriend.
03:27 < mudsplatter> im a guy....
03:27 < mudsplatter> rofl
03:27 < mudsplatter> get a emo guy to do my dish's
03:27 < mudsplatter> hm....
03:27 < mudsplatter> diablocia
03:27 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDR9rilzaDU
03:31 < mudsplatter> that moive
03:31 < mudsplatter> is so old
03:31 < mudsplatter> i would do things to apple gate that i would not do to a small animal
03:32 <@Catonic> as our drummer says... "I'd beat her spine out of her."
03:33 < mudsplatter> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgV_IaZheDE
03:37 < mudsplatter> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD1eOEItcmg&NR=1&feature=fvwp
03:37 < mudsplatter> omg
03:38 < mudsplatter> that is fucked up
03:38 < mudsplatter> ....
03:38 < mudsplatter> cops
03:39 < mudsplatter> thats why i have a motorcycle
03:39 < mudsplatter> dont stop for cops
03:39 <@Catonic> they have ways of making you.
03:40 <@Catonic> "what's your problem you're driving over 100 MPH on the interstate?!"
03:40 <@Catonic> ...
03:40 <@Catonic> can you think of a safer place to do 100MPH for 30 miles?
03:40 <@Catonic> how about 120MPH on a two-lane road?
03:41 < mudsplatter> ...
03:42 < mudsplatter> id go to jail for my dog
03:45 <@Catonic> I'd heilich it first
03:49 < mudsplatter> ?
03:49 < mudsplatter> heillich?
03:49 < mudsplatter> on a dog
03:49 < mudsplatter> rofl
03:50 <@Catonic> alternatively, one could simply keep an eye on the dog and objects nearby that it might chose to chew and/or attempt to swallow
03:50 <@Catonic> you know, like you would for a small child.
03:50 < mudsplatter> ya
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03:50 < mudsplatter> a small retared kid
03:52 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upY_MxSN6VQ
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04:20 <@Catonic> boring shift is boring
04:28 <@Evilpig> got that right
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05:54 <@Catonic> you know what my favorite complaint about losing weight is?
05:54 <@Catonic> Now when I get cold, my back muscles spasm for heat. It's annoying as hell.
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08:10 <@Shadow404> they do what?
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08:44 <@mtown_nerd> Lol  I didn't realize people attributed one with the other, Catonic :o
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09:11 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
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09:52 <@nachoguy> hey dc0de
09:52 <@nachoguy> how's sunny California?
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11:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Morning, Ben
11:02 < benthemeek> Good morning
11:03 < benthemeek> How is everything Corydon76-dig?
11:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Low on caffeine right now
11:04 < benthemeek> The renovations coming along well?
11:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Yep, moved into the kitchen last weekend
11:06 <@mtown_nerd> Mornin, Corydon76-dig :)
11:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Morning
11:07 <@mtown_nerd> How goes it?
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12:27 <@juice> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/08/25/0021246/Appeals-Court-Overturns-2007-Unix-Copyright-Decision
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12:29 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: good, your place is in the kitchen.
12:32 < benthemeek> joice: That sucks..
12:32 < benthemeek> juice* rather
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13:16 < sung_> 1fasdfasdf
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14:11 < rattleXw> Looks like StankDawg:  http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/25/serial.bank.robber/
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14:47 <@Shadow404> rattleXw: dude, call the fbi then and claim the reward, heh
14:50 < rattleXw> We could just call the FBI and say it's Catonic.
14:54 <@Shadow404> angry and frustrated?
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14:55 <@Shadow404> im not sure about the tattoo's and branishing a firearm though
14:55 < mudsplatter> .....
14:55 < mudsplatter> dont ever brandish a gun
14:55 < mudsplatter> unless u have to use it
14:55 <@Shadow404> exactly
14:55 < mudsplatter> i love guns
14:55 <@Shadow404> mine stay in the holster aside from the gun range
14:55 < mudsplatter> people are irresponsible
14:56 < mudsplatter> if some one waves a gun at me
14:56 < mudsplatter> ill cover
14:56 < mudsplatter> and shoot back
14:56 <@Shadow404> but i only carry on night walks around the neighborhood and not so nice destination inner city
14:56 <@Shadow404> oh and camping overnight
14:56 < mudsplatter> no excuse to show off a gun in public
14:56 <@Shadow404> exactly
14:57 < mudsplatter> unless ur scared for your life
14:57 < mudsplatter> and or other people
14:57 <@Shadow404> mudsplatter: this is what were talking about http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/25/serial.bank.robber/
14:57 < mudsplatter> glock?
14:58 <@Shadow404> looks like it,
14:58 < mudsplatter> m and p
14:58 < mudsplatter> maybe
14:58 <@Shadow404> i own a glock 23 personally
14:58 < mudsplatter> i got the 35
14:58 < mudsplatter> the long barrel .40
14:58 <@Shadow404> and a sig saur
14:58 < mudsplatter> i like the sig
14:58 <@Shadow404> sig is nice
14:58 < mudsplatter> man i stock piled so much ammo
14:59 <@Shadow404> i went ot a walkthrough range and doublehanded the sig and glock
14:59 < mudsplatter> shoot a five seven
14:59 <@Shadow404> did pretty good actually
14:59 < mudsplatter> if u get a chance
14:59 <@Shadow404> given ive never shot off hand
15:02 < mudsplatter> makes me want to go to the range again
15:10 < mudsplatter> well brb
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15:30 < mudsplatter> i guess that bank robber wants to go out in a blaze of glory
15:30 < mudsplatter> he goes in with no mask
15:30 < mudsplatter> nothing to lose if he dies i say
15:33 <@Shadow404> still in keeping wih catonic theory
15:35 < mudsplatter> wut is that
15:35 < coil> "
15:35 < mudsplatter> "?
15:35 < coil> http://b.oooom.net/12fj
15:36 < coil> meant to post that
15:36 < coil> gumby goatse
15:36 < mudsplatter> alot of scripits
15:36 < mudsplatter> on there
15:36 < coil> oh?
15:36 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: only works with IE, because it's not setting the mimetype correctly
15:36 < coil> idk i have no script
15:37 < mudsplatter> so do i
15:37 < mudsplatter> it went nuts
15:37 < coil> oh
15:37 < mudsplatter> like the nazis invading poland
15:37 < coil> i wonder where i got that link from
15:37 < coil> it was in my browser from last night
15:37 < mudsplatter> wut is it?
15:37 < coil> it comes out to gumby goatse for me
15:38 < mudsplatter> rofl
15:38 <@Shadow404> coil: where you high last night?
15:38 < coil> Shadow404 no
15:38 < coil> Shadow404 i'm going to atlanta for my birthday
15:38 <@Shadow404> ok, i will prepare the fire
15:38 < coil> k
15:38 < coil> March 25th - 28th, 2010
15:38 < coil> Hilton Atlanta - Atlanta, Georgia, United States
15:38 < coil> yay 4 cons
15:39 < mudsplatter> hilton?
15:39 < coil> The Hilton Atlanta 255 Courtland St. Atlanta, GA 30303
15:40 < coil> sweet its right off of 75
15:40 < mudsplatter> ooo
15:40 < mudsplatter> iv been there
15:40 < mudsplatter> why to ga
15:40 < coil> is it a nice hotel?
15:40 < mudsplatter> its not fun
15:40 < mudsplatter> no
15:40 < mudsplatter> rofl
15:40 < coil> no?
15:40 < mudsplatter> no
15:40 < coil> maybe the con will make it fun
15:40 < mudsplatter> what con is it
15:40 < coil> fwa
15:41 < mudsplatter> wut is that
15:41 < coil> what is wut
15:41 < mudsplatter> FWA
15:42 <@Corydon76-dig> You don't want to know
15:42 < coil> hahahaha
15:42 < mudsplatter> http://www.floridawriters.net/2008_FWA_Conference.html
15:42 < mudsplatter> ?
15:42 < coil> i'm going to fuck a fattie in a fursuit
15:42 < mudsplatter> ....
15:42 < mudsplatter> o
15:42 < coil> lolololo
15:42 < mudsplatter> its a furry con?
15:43 < coil> furry weekend atlanta
15:43 <@Corydon76-dig> I warned you
15:43 < mudsplatter> u know
15:43 < mudsplatter> now
15:43 < mudsplatter> we are enemys
15:43 < mudsplatter> .....
15:43 < coil> racist
15:43 < coil> and rude
15:43 < coil> i will not tolerate it
15:43 < mudsplatter> wut
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15:43 < mudsplatter> yiff in hell
15:43 < mudsplatter> problem solved
15:46 < mudsplatter> well
15:46 < mudsplatter> i have a qustion for the furries
15:47 < mudsplatter> how do they know its a girl in side the suit
15:47 < mudsplatter> and not a man
15:47 < mudsplatter> is there some sort of werid furrie signal?
15:47 <@Corydon76-dig> mudsplatter: who said coil was straight?
15:47 < mudsplatter> my head hurts not
15:47 < mudsplatter> now
15:47 <@opticron> lol
15:48 < mudsplatter> well
15:48 < mudsplatter> blah
15:48 < mudsplatter> furries....
15:48 < mudsplatter> the internet is dominated by them
15:49 <@Shadow404> there is a few on this channel
15:50 < mudsplatter> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/wiltshire/8220735.stm
15:51 < mudsplatter> tats bad luck
15:51 < mudsplatter> they will probally ban pellet guns now
15:52 < mudsplatter> they already got kitchen kifhes
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15:57 < coil> okay so i'm going back to Titusville to see the shuttle not launch again tonight
15:57 < mudsplatter> rofl
15:57 < mudsplatter> are u stil mad
15:57 < mudsplatter> my furrie freind
15:58 < mudsplatter> ok
15:58 < mudsplatter> can it be ask a furrie time now
15:58 < coil> i'm just tired of being fursecuted
15:58 < mudsplatter> well i got some qustions
15:58 < mudsplatter> how do you know its a girl in the suit
15:59 < coil> oh that's an easy one
15:59 < coil> everyone that's a furry is middle aged, fat, bald guy
15:59 < mudsplatter> hmm
15:59 < coil> so theres no possible way that its a girl
15:59 < mudsplatter> just like i thoug
15:59 <@mtown_nerd> lol
15:59 < mudsplatter> though
15:59 < mudsplatter> ....
15:59 < mudsplatter> those suites are expensive
15:59 <@mtown_nerd> OR you just make sure your scruples are such that it doesn't really matter if its a girl in the suit...either way, gender of the suiter is moot.
16:00 < mudsplatter> hmmmm
16:00 <@mtown_nerd> It is, as such, a moot suit.
16:00 <@mtown_nerd> :]
16:00 < coil> mudsplatter most people make there own suits
16:00 < mudsplatter> are u srs
16:00 < mudsplatter> ....
16:00 < coil> mtown_nerd never seen a guy do a girl before
16:00 < mudsplatter> i want to go there
16:00 < coil> mudsplatter where do you live
16:00 < mudsplatter> miami
16:00 < coil> oh really?
16:00 < mudsplatter> to troll the fur fags
16:00 < coil> i'm in orlando
16:01 < mudsplatter> o no
16:01 < mudsplatter> im a target for rape.....
16:01 < coil> wanna hook up
16:01 < coil> whats your phone number
16:01 < coil> and address
16:01 < mudsplatter> the internet is such a safe place
16:01 < mudsplatter> im 12 years old
16:01 < mudsplatter> ur going to jail
16:01 < mudsplatter> u pedo
16:01 < coil> well wait, are you female or male
16:02 < mudsplatter> every one on the internet is  guy...
16:02 < coil> +a
16:02 < mudsplatter> getting hit on by guys on line
16:03 < mudsplatter> also
16:03 < mudsplatter> another thing
16:03 < coil> it wasn't a hit on....i'm just going to kill you.
16:03 < mudsplatter> o
16:03 < mudsplatter> rofl
16:03 < mudsplatter> hahhah
16:03 < mudsplatter> not the first time
16:04 < mudsplatter> and it wont be the last
16:04 < coil> oh trust me, it's going to be the last time.
16:04 < mudsplatter> hahhahah
16:05 < coil> brb hacking up my exgf's body
16:05 < mudsplatter> ill go troll the furries
16:05 < mudsplatter> im  bored ne ways
16:05 < coil> where you trollin at
16:05 < coil> i wanna join
16:05 < mudsplatter> to late
16:05 < mudsplatter> no furried
16:05 < mudsplatter> furries
16:05 < mudsplatter> its a rule
16:05 < mudsplatter> .....
16:05 < coil> how old are you...13?
16:05 < mudsplatter> we dont like ur kind
16:05 < mudsplatter> 12
16:06 < mudsplatter> homo
16:06 < coil> lol
16:06 < coil> omg you called homo
16:06 < coil> i'm so fucking offended.
16:06 < mudsplatter> proper term = fag
16:06 < coil> brb slitting wrists
16:06 < coil> hey ops, this guy is being rude
16:06 < coil> please ban him
16:06 < mudsplatter> yiff in hell
16:06 < coil> calling me a fag
16:06 < mudsplatter> hes a furrie he has no rights
16:06 < coil> that's dergitory
16:07 < coil> mudsplatter go back to 4chan
16:07 < mudsplatter> wut is that
16:07 < mudsplatter> ebalms world plz
16:07 < coil> mudsplatter are you sofa king wee tod ed?
16:07 < mudsplatter> very
16:09 < mudsplatter> http://whatsisname.com/bike/YIFF_IN_HELL.jpg
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16:16 <@Shadow404> :P
16:19 < mudsplatter> rofl
16:19 < mudsplatter> the day is mine
16:19 < mudsplatter> i will save this small portion of a log
16:19 < mudsplatter> and read it when i am over whelmed by furries
16:19 <@Shadow404> thats actually kind of petty
16:20 < mudsplatter> wut us
16:20 < mudsplatter> wut is
16:20 < mudsplatter> to kick people?
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16:20 <@opticron> when did this channel absorb immense amounts of stupid?
16:21 <@Corydon76-dig> When we stopped flaming idiots?
16:22 <@Corydon76-dig> I think Dagmar has too productive of an outlet now.
16:25 < coil> i was just trolling him
16:25 < coil> good fun
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17:19 <@aestetix> who is roger ward?
17:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Iridium
17:28 <@sdodson> aestetix: YOUR MOTHER!
17:30 <@aestetix> Ah, ok.
17:30 <@aestetix> I got an email from him about some stuff.
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18:23 < DrArkaneX> Who's organizing PN this year?
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19:15 <@sdodson> DrArkaneX: Backstreet Boys
19:15 <@rhia> sdodson: they are soooo last century - this year it's the Jonas Brothers
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19:17 <@sdodson> http://imgur.com/AiJgQ.png
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19:31 < DrArkaneX> awesome
19:31 < DrArkaneX> the backdoor boys huh?
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21:26 <@polerin> ran into dole at the grocery store
21:26 <@polerin> heh
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21:47 < mudsplatter> dole?
21:48 < mudsplatter> bob dole?
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21:49 < eryc> bob dolemite
21:50 < mudsplatter> o ok
21:58 < sudopod> Do ya'll know when the phreaknic website will be updated?
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22:25 <@sdodson> In this used book there's an ATM receipt for a withdrawl. $10 withdraw, $1 ATM fee, and I'd assume $1 fee from the bank. So 17% fees on the transaction.
22:28 < sudopod> O_o
22:28 <@sdodson> stupid college kids
22:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: so.. I'm watching District 9 now....
22:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: I thought it was a show about cops :/
22:36 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: stop texting from the movie doucherino
22:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> ...
22:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> umm
22:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> not so much at the movies really
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22:43 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: lame
22:47 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: you're telling me.  I'd have had to ask for my money back if I had gone with you on Friday.
22:49 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: i meant pirating it was lame
22:49 <@sdodson> but ya the movie sucked
23:02 <@Dagmar> I'm sorry there wasn't enough boobies and giant robot ninjas for you
23:03 <@Evilpig> where have I seen this name before? Ed Jablonowski
23:03 <@Dagmar> http://www.bootdisk.com/faq.htm
23:03 <@Dagmar> You probably knew him
23:04 <@Dagmar> Either that or you got some slipstream-fu from his site http://www.bootdisk.com/bootlist/248.htm
23:04 <@Dagmar> Probably both
23:04 <@Evilpig> all my slipstream stuff came from technet and nlite
23:05 <@Dagmar> He got props from a movie crew for something listed in IMDB
23:11 <@Dagmar> Frankly, I think you probably met him somewhere
23:11 <@Dagmar> It's not like Kentucky is *that* brimming with big IT heads
23:12 <@Dagmar> Either that or you got used to seeing his name on bootdisks
23:13 <@sdodson> Evilpig: You're maybe thinking of n00gums?
23:13 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'm in the credits of a movie, but I'm not listed on IMDb
23:13 <@m0j0-j0j0> oddly enough I never saw the movie or met anyone on the cast
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23:43 <@Evilpig> sdodson: that might be it
23:43 <@sdodson> Evilpig: same last name, different first
23:44 < eryc> yea
23:45 <@Evilpig> noogums was brian wasn't he?
23:46 < eryc> yea jablonsky
23:46 < eryc> so
23:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: Jablonsky.
23:46 < eryc> diff first and last
23:46 < eryc> but close enough
23:47 <@Corydon76-dig> n00gums was a hot little piece of ass
23:47 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: did he get in your van for candy too?
23:47 <@Corydon76-dig> No, dammit
23:48 < eryc> what kind of candy did you offer?
23:48 <@Corydon76-dig> No candy; just Jesus juice
23:48 < eryc> squeezed or extract?
23:49 <@Corydon76-dig> He tried sacrificing his roommate
23:50 < eryc> what
23:50 < eryc> hey
23:50 < eryc> Why did God create yeast infections?
23:51 < eryc> So women know what it's like to live with an irritating cunt for once.
23:53 <@Corydon76-dig> You could say the same for men and hemorrhoids
23:57 < eryc> yes but this is funnier because no one likes the word cunt
23:57 < eryc> you could call me an asshole all day and i would care less
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