--- Log opened Fri Aug 07 00:00:27 2009
01:01 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: hi!
03:26 <@Catonic> all
03:29 <@Evilpig> no
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06:01 < jnds3> Anyone have good experiences with remote file storage software?  Looking at mediafire and putfile, gmail drive, if you know of other good services let me know!
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08:26 <@Evilpig> cats are using the new box just fine.  ziggy shit on the lip of it though...  however when it went into the cleaning cycle it knocked it in and put it in with the rest.  that was cool
08:30 <@Shadow404> they last for a while, till the machine breaks down in about 4 months time
08:36 <@Evilpig> 18-month full warranty
08:36 <@Evilpig> have you tried a litter-robot personally?
08:49 <@Shadow404> yep
08:49 <@Shadow404> lasted 4 months till the gears got stripped internally
08:51 <@Evilpig> weird. I looked it over pretty good while I was setting it up it looks pretty well built.  guess we'll see
08:51 <@Evilpig> it is much quieter than the videos I saw of it on youtube made it out to be
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09:45 <@Catonic> I am awake.
09:45 <@Catonic> I don't know why.
09:45 <@rhia> because you're not asleep
09:48 <@m0j0-j0j0> you're under pressure.
09:51 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'd guess about (1kg/(cm^2))
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10:01 < benthemeek> Theoretical question for you: Two offices want to transfer sensitive data between them. Would changing ssh port number and using tcp wrappers to only allow the other to connect via ssh be enough to secure them? Or should I set up a vpn?
10:01 <@Evilpig> ssh is encrypted same as vpn. 
10:01 <@Evilpig> vpn would be more ideal just cause it's easier
10:01 < benthemeek> Yes
10:01 < benthemeek> You think so?
10:02 <@Shadow404> heh, ssh through vpn
10:02 <@Shadow404> overkil
10:02 <@Shadow404> *overkill
10:02 < benthemeek> That is what we our doing now and I think it is
10:02 <@Evilpig> if you do just plain ssh that opens your server to the outside
10:02 <@Shadow404> or why dont you just put all of the data on floppy disks and mail them
10:02 <@Evilpig> if you wanna secure it out vpn would be the better way to go.  either way you still have a public facing side
10:02 < benthemeek> but using tcp wrappers it allows only connections from the ip I want
10:02 <@Shadow404> thats how we use to transfer data, uphill both ways
10:02 <@Shadow404> just ask Dolemite
10:02 < ware> noob
10:03 <@Evilpig> it also depends on how much data you wanna push too.  if it isn't much the extra over head of ssh/rsync inside a vpn link isn't going to matter
10:04 < benthemeek> I am not worried about overhead as much as I am opening a single port from the outside to the server
10:04 < benthemeek> given I only allow one IP in I would assume it very secure but I dont know much about spoofing and such
10:04 <@Evilpig> if you're going static ip to static ip it won't matter what port you open.  just limit it at the firewall and if you are still paranoid limit it at the server too
10:04 < ware> restrict it to a single address
10:05  * ware highfives Evilpig 
10:05 < benthemeek> I thought so but I wanted a second opinion :)
10:05 <@Evilpig> there is still other stuff you can do for the overly paranoid.  but really just how secure does it need to be? even medical data isn't that secure
10:06 < benthemeek> like I said the fear mongers yell "IP SPOOFING!"
10:06 < benthemeek> Actually it is medical data
10:06 < benthemeek> Hence the paranoia
10:06 <@Evilpig> control your access, log your connections.  all is good
10:06 < benthemeek> I am perfectly happy using my beloved ssh and firewalls, but didn't know if it was quite enough
10:07 < benthemeek> Thanks for your opinions
10:07 < ware> deny usb devices / web mail
10:07 <@Evilpig> does it need real time sync?  if not you can limit the time that the connections can be made
10:07 < ware> hehe
10:07 <@Evilpig> make a different time window for each day of the week 
10:07 < benthemeek> Well I would like to do an always on thing
10:07 <@Evilpig> you can obfuscate the hell out of it too.  obfuscation still works for some security
10:07 < benthemeek> and have ssh keyless entry for a low privilaged user to transfer the files
10:08 <@Evilpig> you can always use the old call home method
10:08 <@Shadow404> how remote are the offices from one another?
10:08 <@Evilpig> end user triggers a call home to pick up data
10:08 < benthemeek> I know removing passwords is a big no no, but i thought the firewall single ip would be okay
10:08 < benthemeek> some are in different states
10:08 < benthemeek> in theorey I am thinking about doing this for about 50 different sites
10:08 < ware> just use keys
10:09 <@Evilpig> and don't reuse keys no matter how easy
10:09 <@Shadow404> ok, local ring wont work in this case
10:10 < benthemeek> I will read up on the "call home method"
10:10 < benthemeek> Thanks again
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10:12 <@Evilpig> wait a second.  WTF just happened there?  did we help someone and not mock them for asking a question?
10:13 <@rhia> ware called him a n00b, does that count?
10:13 < ware> fckn noob
10:13 < ware> ;)
10:13 < ware> the first noob was for Shadow404
10:13 <@rhia> clarify better =)
10:14 < benthemeek> Yes you all win the nice guy on friday award :)
10:15 <@rhia> benthemeek: don't get used to it, think you hit the sweet spot between the first gulps of coffee and the dawning realization of being actually awake
10:15 < benthemeek> I plan to be at the nashville meeting tonight as well.
10:16 < benthemeek> rhia: I won't ;)
10:16 <@Evilpig> actually I am getting close to going to bed
10:16 < ware> i havent been to a meeting in months
10:17 <@Evilpig> I havent' decided on the meeting tonight.  it hink the apphosting ppl from work are bowling tonight, I tihnk I am part of that group
10:18 <@Evilpig> rhia: have you seen the litter-robot thingie?
10:18 <@rhia> which one? several autos on the market
10:19 <@Evilpig> specifically litter-robot
10:19 <@rhia> yeah, my cats would never enter it =/
10:19 <@Evilpig> http://www.litter-robot.com/litter-robot-demonstration.aspx
10:21 < jnds3> Anyone have good experiences with remote file storage software?  Looking at mediafire and putfile, gmail drive, if you know of other good services let me know!
10:22 <@rhia> they won't go into standard covered boxes - picky little buggers
10:23 < fall0ut> the litter robot
10:23 < fall0ut> is awesome
10:24 <@Evilpig> weird.  ziggy has always had a covered box.  maybe that is why he doesn't care
10:25 < fall0ut> I've got 2 litter robots
10:25 < fall0ut> they're awesome
10:30 < benthemeek> I had one of those automatic litter boxes  with like a rake built in to it
10:30 < benthemeek> I found it couldnt keep up with my 3 cats though (back when I had them
10:30 < benthemeek> My problem was not having to clean up as much as the smell
10:31 < benthemeek> I eventually went to wall mart bought a 50 gallon tote put the litter box inside, and hooked up a fan with a tube going through a dryer vent to keep the smell always out
10:31 < benthemeek> worked pretty well
10:32 < benthemeek> Put a a few rubber flaps over the door to try and make it as airtight as possible
10:36 <@Evilpig> but you have to clean that out... ewww
10:36 < benthemeek> I know but a few minutes at the end of the day wasnt so bad
10:36 < benthemeek> just as long as I didnt have to smell it
10:36 < benthemeek> in Hindsite one cate would be preferable to 3
10:37 < benthemeek> s/cate/cat
10:37 <@Evilpig> I have 2.  they're amusing together
10:38 < benthemeek> I got them after I got married when my wifes cat died. Thier names were Windows, Linux, and XP
10:38 < ware> s/cat/devil mammal/
10:38 < benthemeek> I know total geeky
10:38 <@Evilpig> geeky is naming your cat 5
10:38 < benthemeek> lol
10:50 <@Corydon76-dig> benthemeek: actually, having >1 cat is considered better
10:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, !1, anyway
10:51 < benthemeek> For keeping each other company you mean?
10:51 <@Corydon76-dig> They are better tempered when not raised alone
10:52 < benthemeek> Ours were very friendly, after we had kids and then moved though we took them to happy tails no kill cat shelter in nashville and they were adopted very quickly :)
10:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Bunnies are the same way.  They do better when raised in pairs.
10:53 < benthemeek> When my kids were older I was thinking hedge hog.
10:54 < benthemeek> Less alergens to deal with I think
10:54 <@Corydon76-dig> How old are your kids now?
10:54 < benthemeek> 6, 4, and 3
10:55 < benthemeek> all girls
10:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Bunnies are fine, as long as you can teach your kids that bunnies are okay with being held, as long as they come to you and aren't either chased or picked up
10:56 <@Corydon76-dig> My dwarf lops finally figured out that when they return to their cage on their own, they avoid me tracking them down to put them up
10:57 <@Corydon76-dig> and bunnies are litterbox trainable and hypoallergenic
10:57 < benthemeek> Wow
10:57 < benthemeek> I didnt realize they could be litter box trained
10:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, they pee only in their litterboxes
10:58 < benthemeek> Well I could deal with that
10:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Their poo, OTOH, is dry and not messy, even if you accidentally step on it, and those wind up everywhere
10:58 <@Corydon76-dig> The poo makes excellent fertilizer, though
10:58 < benthemeek> Best to porbaly have hardwood floors then I guess
10:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Nope, carpeting
10:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Bunnies can't grip on hardwood floors
10:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Their paws are fuzzy, not padded like cats and dogs
10:59 <@Corydon76-dig> their claws are their only method of gripping
11:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Some bunnies adapt, though... think kids on a backyard waterslide...
11:01 <@Corydon76-dig> or kids on freshly waxed linoleum
11:01 < benthemeek> wow
11:01 < benthemeek> Well my kjids already ask for a pet
11:01 < benthemeek> but I want to wait until the youngest is 5 and then check out my options
11:01 <@Corydon76-dig> www.bunnyrescue.net
11:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Nashville Bunny Rescue
11:05 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
11:05 <@Corydon76-dig> I'd bring my Johnny to the meeting tonight, but 1) I doubt animals are allowed at JJ's, and 2) Johnny will be recovering from his neuter operation
11:08 <@Dolemite> Corydon has been wanting to whip out his Johnny in front of all of us for years
11:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Johnny Gray Giant is my Flemish Giant bunny
11:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Currently 9 lbs at 4 months, the breed is rated at 12-17 lbs full grown
11:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Well tempered, doesn't fight, very friendly
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, doesn't start fights, anyway.  He finishes them, though.
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> I think Peter finally figured out not to start fights with bunnies larger than he is
11:12 < benthemeek> I was just reading up some on rabbit behaviour
11:12 < benthemeek> very interesting, I had never really considered them as a valid pet option
11:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, definitely.  Johnny will have the run of the house fairly soon
11:13 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: our affiliate relations group just sent out a company wide email that said "m0j0-j0j0 will be touching your back-end today" as the subject :/
11:13 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: sweet
11:14 <@rhia> m0j0-j0j0: wash often
11:14 <@m0j0-j0j0> looks like crabs for lunch again today
11:17 < benthemeek> Corydon76-dig: Do you plan to get him a companion?
11:18 <@Corydon76-dig> benthemeek: I have 4 other rabbits, and all 5 romp around the room at the same time
11:18 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: remaking Romper Room?
11:19 <@Corydon76-dig> benthemeek: the reason he's getting neutered today is that he's been humping 2 of the females
11:19 <@Corydon76-dig> and I'm sick of petting Thumper and Midnight and finding out that Johnny left a "gift" on their hindquarters
11:20 < benthemeek> ew
11:20 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: humping like rabbits, who'd have imagined? <g>
11:23 <@Corydon76-dig> benthemeek: you know when rabbits have been humping, because there's a faint skunky smell in the air
11:24 <@Corydon76-dig> well, other than when Midnight (female) humps Peter (male).  Then it's just about dominance.
11:27  * benthemeek going to lunch
11:34 <@Corydon76-dig> http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/1569536/homepage/name/979708?type=sn  SFW
11:38 <@Evilpig> PIE!
11:38 <@Evilpig> I forgot I bought this yesterday
11:53 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: its a lie!!!!
11:54 < benthemeek> Don't you mean cake ;)
11:54 <@Shadow404> all pastry is a lie
12:00 <@rhia> and all pasties are just coverups
12:00 <@Evilpig> no i mean pie
12:00 <@Evilpig> I went to lunch with dolemite and mirage and got a piece of pie to bring home
12:04 <@Shadow404> lies
12:04 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: does Evilpig really have pie?
12:05 <@Shadow404> Mirage: you input would be appreciated as well
12:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Mirage no longer works in the NOC
12:06 < benthemeek> being new here and just curious, but are Dolemite and Mirage bastions of truth? Because I have noticed many here *cough* Shadow*cough* like to give less than serious answers ;)
12:06 <@Shadow404> what does that have to do with getting lunch with Dolemite
12:07 <@Evilpig> what does that have to do with mirage no longer working in the noc?
12:07 <@Shadow404> benthemeek: the meeting will cost $5/hour
12:07 <@Shadow404> please bring cash
12:07 <@rhia> truth and this channel are barely nodding acquaintances
12:07 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: i just asked that
12:08 < benthemeek> You don't take checks Shadow?
12:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: his ability to confirm whether Wilpig has pie is diminished by the fact that he's not there
12:09 <@Corydon76-dig> benthemeek: besides which, Shadow is nowhere near Nashville
12:09 <@Shadow404> hes on irc, he can answer for himself, so what does that have to do with working in the NOC?
12:09 <@Evilpig> yeah I am still confused over the noc thing
12:09 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: well sorta, im in the state next to the state that contains nashville
12:09 <@Dolemite> Evilpig did indeed buy a slice of chess pie at Jack's yesterday to take home.
12:10 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: ok, your story has been confirmed, you remain a truthsayer for this arguement only
12:10 <@Shadow404> that is all
12:10 <@Evilpig> I always tell the truth
12:10 <@Evilpig> Shadow404 has a tiny penis
12:10 <@Evilpig> see
12:11 <@Shadow404> man, i was about to make a liquor joke, but that ruins it
12:14  * benthemeek will not ask how EvilPig knows this
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12:23 < benthemeek> "Today, I was picking my daughter up at day care. She was outside playing kick ball. A red ball strangely rolls over to me, and trying to impress the kids, I kicked it over the slide. I turn around to see three crying six year olds. It was their hamster ball. FML"
12:27 <@Shadow404> aww, hahaha
12:28 < benthemeek> You ever read FML? I added it to my google reader and usually I keep up with it :)
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12:35 <@sdodson> Shadow404: hi
12:36 <@sdodson> I'm betting FML is > 40% fake at this point. :(
12:36 < benthemeek> You are probaly right
12:41 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm betting >40% of statistics are made up on the spot
12:42 < benthemeek> hehe, I think I would be willing to bet on that too :)
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13:37 <@Catonic> woke up this morning, got my self a gun. obama's taking them away, one by one.
13:38 <@Catonic> born under a blue moon baby...
13:40 < benthemeek> Someone posted some links in here to last years FN and I noticed on of the topics was building a homegrown AK47
13:40 < benthemeek> facinating
13:40 <@Dolemite> ok, just contributed to the economy for tax free weekend
13:41 <@Catonic> Oh, are you paying your day-use fees at the parks?
13:41 <@Dolemite> quad core/6GB/320GB/DVD burner/64 bit Vista Home Premium/GeForce 9100 for $379
13:41 <@Catonic> nice. where?
13:42 <@Dolemite> buy.com
13:43 <@Mirage> Dolemite: I thought Wilpig got Pecan pie..I got Chess pie.
13:46 <@polerin> mmm pecan paaaaaaaaaaai
13:54 <@Dolemite> No, he got the last piece of chess pie.
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14:05 <@Catonic> Key organizers include two Astroturf (fake grass-roots) organizations:
14:06 <@Catonic> now polictical parties are running psyops within the states
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14:15 <@Catonic> i want pie.
14:16 <@Mirage> this has to be a typo:
14:16 <@Mirage> .	The full version of Windows 7 must be used to upgrade from:
14:16 <@Mirage> o	 XP
14:16 <@Mirage> o	Vista (if it has not been updated to Service Pack 1 or 2)
14:16 <@Mirage> o	A 32-bit version of Windows Vista to a 64-bit version of Windows 7
14:16 <@Mirage> o	A 64-bit version of Windows Vista to a 32-bit version of Window 7
14:16 <@Mirage> o	A higher edition of Vista to a lower edition of 7
14:16 <@Shadow404> i got some great pie last night
14:19 <@juice> :(
14:20 <@juice> hey Mirage
14:22 <@Catonic> so... they are basically saying upgrades are no longer a discount item.
14:26 <@Dolemite> No, they are saying nothing about discount versus full price.  They are saying that you can't upgrade directly from one of those versions to Windows 7 - instead you have to do a fresh install.
14:26 <@Shadow404> well you can use the upgrade if you have vista sp1 and sp2
14:26 < ware> why would you want to upgrade.
14:26 < ware> jeeez. ppl need a new start
14:32 <@Catonic> The basic utility of computers doesn't cease to exist when a new version of an OS comes out
14:32 <@Catonic> If you're involved in scientific computing, or specific computing, you understand.
14:33 <@Catonic> There's a cost to purchase the hardware, operating system and your computational program.
14:33 <@Catonic> once that's paid, it's paid. There's no reason to invest more dollars in the program until something changes which necessitates it.
14:33 <@Catonic> If that program was written for Solaris 8, it may be around for quite some time.
14:34 <@sdodson> they gave me free windows 7, dunno why
14:34 <@Catonic> sdodson: because they know you play for the other team.
14:35 <@sdodson> i was involved with vista beta but not 7 beta
14:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: are you aware that your private.wilpig.org addresses are resolving on the public network?
14:39 <@Shadow404> at least they dont resolve to a working web page
14:39 <@Shadow404> $ host private.wilpig.org
14:39 <@Shadow404> private.wilpig.org A record currently not present
14:39 <@Shadow404> what are you resolving as?
14:42 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: the subdomain, not a specific host.
14:42 <@Corydon76-dig> in this case, blueboy.private.wilpig.org
14:43 <@Mirage> I got distracted by work..the main point of what I posted on Windows 7 was the Vista 32b -> Win7 64b or Vista 64b -> Win7 32b.  Which to me means that if you oen Vista 64 anything, there is no 'upgrade'
14:43 <@sdodson> 64bit vista upgrade to 64bit 7
14:45 <@Mirage> it's not listed and it's specifically stated "A higher edition of Vista to a lower edition of 7," which to me means that if you have vista ultimate 64, your're screwed and have to buy a nice shiny new full release
14:45 <@Catonic> I need to get out of IT
14:48 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: well you didnt define the first time
14:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: I was asking Pig, not you
14:49 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: and why are you playing with pig's privates?
14:49 <@Shadow404> i lawled
14:49 <@Corydon76-dig> That's because you're lame and don't have more important things to do
14:50 <@Shadow404> like proving people wrong whenever i get a chance???
14:50 <@Mirage> doesn't happen often does it?
14:51 <@Shadow404> not saying that, more along the line of making a point in my last reply
14:52 <@Shadow404> well, at least we know theres a good chance that wilpig uses a 10.0.0.* scheme for the internal network
14:52  * Catonic commences to eye-roll
14:56 <@Catonic> omg, im right. I've got to be right. If I'm not right then I'm wrong and I lose all self-value as a person.
14:57 <@Dolemite> Catonic : When the operational cost of your existing system exceeds the capital cost to replace with more efficient hardware, then yes, there is a reason to replace it.
14:57 <@sdodson> Mirage: link to those requirements?
14:57 <@Corydon76-dig> How gross is it to eat peanut butter, then allow the dog to lick the remainders off your teeth?
14:58 <@Catonic> agreed. but few consider that. Think about the mom n' pop computing outfit of five people.
14:58  * Shadow404 reports Corydon76-dig to the aspca
14:58 <@sdodson> operational costs sux
14:58 <@Shadow404> the operational cost of your mom sux
14:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: He likes peanut butter, though
14:58 <@Dolemite> 99.9995% of the people who touch computers think nothing of the power bill/operational costs.
14:59 <@Shadow404> i do after running 5 computers normally
14:59 <@sdodson> I'm going to have to make the case for decent remote management.
14:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: I dunno, I think most people consider the costs of running a computer negligible compared to the power costs of other appliances
14:59 <@sdodson> Shadow404: lame
14:59 <@Dolemite> I kicked the KVM users out of the data center.  Gave 'em crash carts to use here or they could step into the 21st century and use RSA/iLO
15:00 <@sdodson> Dolemite: I'd prefer kvm over a mix of rsa and ilo
15:00 <@Dolemite> Dolemite : Until you have to start managing the infrastructure of a centralized kvm.  If the server has RSA, use it, dammit!
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15:02 <@sdodson> My lab is a nightmare. I push kvm and serial. But there's ilo, ilo2, mp, elom, ilom, alom, drac4, drac5, rsa, rsa2, asm, ibm-bc, hmc.
15:03 < benthemeek> Wow, you win the sucks to be you award
15:03 < benthemeek> how do you keep it all straight?
15:03 <@sdodson> So, my lab is basically a situation where we get one of everything from every vendor.
15:04 < benthemeek> We have a couple ilo and drac here but much is the same
15:05 <@sdodson> I just tell people to use serial consoles. It's best for everyone. It logs when they crash a box, it's abstracted away via conserver and it's integrated into the pdus.
15:05 <@sdodson> so it's just "console dell-pe1950-1" and you're in.
15:05 <@sdodson> oh ya, there's also xen and kvm of course.
15:06 <@sdodson> Looks like PackageKit is accepted into GNOME?
15:07 <@sdodson> I should probably make the shift to ipmiv2
15:14 <@Catonic> eck
15:14 <@Catonic> i hate ilom
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15:26 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-dig: yes.  doesn't really matter much youc an't do anythign with that info
15:26 <@Evilpig> everything should resolve to my main ip cause I have a record for *.wilpig.org
15:27 <@Catonic> mmm, beeer.
15:27 <@Evilpig> thisisprivate.private.pecker.wilpig.org shoudl resolve too
15:27 <@Catonic> pecker.wilpig.org resolves?
15:27 <@Catonic> ~resolve pecker.wilpig.org
15:27 <@Evilpig> catonic.is.a.douche.wilpig.org resolves too
15:28 <@Catonic> awesome. I've evolved from ordinary schmuck to douchebag. My transformation is complete.
15:30 <@Evilpig> would you prefer catonic.is.a.flaming.queen.wilpig.org?
15:31 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-dig: what specifically resolved?
15:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: email bounce from the listserv, I think
15:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Undeliverable, because the address was private
15:37 <@Evilpig> weird.
15:38 <@Evilpig> I didn't see any bounces.  but then again the lists other than root get crazy amounts of spam / moderated traffic stuff
15:38 <@Evilpig> Received: from blueboy.private.wilpig.org ([10.0.0.253])  <-- that.  gotcha
15:38 <@Evilpig> I will be redoing some of that this weekend since the new server is ready
15:40 <@sdodson> Anyone participate in these electrical programs where they disable your A/C compressor during peak usage hours? thoughts?
15:41 <@Evilpig> I would kill a bitch for that
15:41 <@Dolemite> you should do that for your computer lab!
15:42 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: shouldn't you be off irc and headed to the bowling alley?
15:44 <@Dolemite> I'm not going
15:44 <@Evilpig> well you're a party pooper.   bbiab gonna take the trash out.  trying to decide if I wanna take the white truck or the tan truck tonight.  thinking white but I much prefer to drive the tan
15:46 <@juice> http://waterloolabs.blogspot.com/2009/08/fps-with-real-guns-episode-02.html
15:50 <@sdodson> Dolemite: I went on vacation for a week. First day I was gone they had HVAC failure. :(
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15:53 <@Dolemite> Yeah, well, I went on vacation one summer and got a call about a duct bank that got cracked during demolition while I'm trying to enjoy a day cruise in Maine with my wife
15:56 < benthemeek> JJs at 5 pm right?
16:02 < benthemeek> Im coming fdrom mufreesboro so I guess about to leave
16:04 < benthemeek> Just out of curiosity, what is the turnout that you-all usually have?
16:06 <@Evilpig> varies
16:07 < benthemeek> Well see some of you in a few at least. Should I bring a laptop?
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18:20 <@Dagmar> Argh
18:20 <@Dagmar> Too busy killing super mutants to pay attention
18:20 <@Dagmar> Heading out now
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18:31 <@juice> hi
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20:56 < uSynx> i am convinced there is a group of people somewhere hacking femtocells
20:56 < uSynx> i just cant find them
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21:33 <@devoid> Hi.
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22:31 <@sdodson> hai thar
22:32 <@devoid> Hi
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23:14 < banasidhe> Hello.
23:15 <@brimstone> hi
23:15 <@sdodson> hi
23:15 <@juice> hi
23:15 <@sdodson> how were your meetings?
23:15 < banasidhe> Hey. The phreaknic website said info could be found here. Who should I talk to? There's a problem with the website.
23:16 <@Evilpig> heh.  what do you need to know I can relay to the right person
23:17 < banasidhe> I tried to email them but it bounced and the forums aren't up yet.
23:17 <@Evilpig> he doesn't tend to hang in here too much these days
23:18 < banasidhe> That's cool then. It's just an editorial error in the FAQ I figured they'd want corrected. I'm sure I can find him through #dc-fourms. Just thought I'd try here first.
23:18 < banasidhe> Thanks
23:19 <@Evilpig> that is the old faq
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23:20 <@Evilpig> I see it.  he's going to say there is an error about it being started in nashville.
23:27 <@sdodson> http://www.newraleigh.com/articles/archive/kudzu-jesus-spotted-in-raleigh/
23:27 <@sdodson> OMG ITS JESUS!!!!!!
23:33 <@sdodson> http://www.rtfm-ed.co.uk/?p=1387  the comics are funny
23:34 <@sdodson> Conan has Flo-rida on. i lolled
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