--- Log opened Thu Jul 23 00:00:05 2009 --- Day changed Thu Jul 23 2009 00:00 <@dasunt> sasquatc4: The trick to get an answer for any linux question is to say "Windows makes this so easy, linux sucks because it can't do " 00:00 <@sasquatc4> haha 00:00 <@dasunt> Unfortunately, the same trick doesn't work for windows. 00:00 <@dasunt> :( 00:01 < miniMerc> sure it does 00:01 < miniMerc> just use MacOS 00:01 <@dasunt> " makes this so easy, Windows sucks, it can't do ", ", you only like because you are a butt monkey" 00:01 < miniMerc> "OSX makes this so easy, windows sucks cuz it cant do " 00:02 <@sasquatc4> so i guess im forced to go through a few hours of work just to find out if this works or not, created a mips toolchain to build stuff for a mips platform on x86 boxes, fairly straightforward, but was tryin to find out if the same tool works in cygwin so i can make a cygwin compatible one so devs dont have to install linux 00:03 <@dasunt> sasquatc4: Why not use virtual PC and a leenucks image? 00:03 <@dasunt> MS Virtual PC is a free download. 00:03 <@sasquatc4> well thats what i do personally for this stuff 00:03 <@sasquatc4> i use virtualbox, but some people dont want to 00:04 <@dasunt> Will simplifying the setup for idiots make it any easier for you? 00:05 <@sasquatc4> not particularly, but i try not too answer too many questions, just like giving options 00:05 <@dasunt> So you don't *support* your recommendations, I take it? 00:05 <@sasquatc4> what you mean 00:06 <@Catonic> sup dasunt 00:07 <@dasunt> Catonic: Drunk. Anxiety, but that's going away with the booze. 00:07 <@dasunt> Juggling destruction tonight. 00:10 <@dasunt> Is there a reason why Facebook's Web 2.0 code tells my processor "to your knees, bitch, and open wide!" 00:10 < miniMerc> its hard to put your face on a book 00:11 <@Catonic> im playing a little bass, trying to fall asleep 00:11 <@Catonic> dasunt: you need to get laid more than any man on this planet. 00:11 <@dasunt> I get laid. 00:12 <@dasunt> That's my problem. 00:12 <@Catonic> stop passing out on the toliet and that won't happen. 00:12 < miniMerc> books with faces is very resource intensive 00:14 <@dasunt> Shit. 00:15 <@dasunt> Alcohol ADHD. 00:15 <@Catonic> alcohol is no fix for anxiety 00:15 <@dasunt> It isn't, but it is a treatment. :/ 00:15 <@Catonic> nah 00:16 <@Catonic> alcohol is not a drug to use for anything. 00:16 <@Catonic> xanax for anxiety 00:17 <@dasunt> Shit, someone I know passed away. 00:17 <@dasunt> Damn, and he was awesome. Religious, but awesome. 00:17 <@dasunt> His wife played at my wedding. 00:18 < miniMerc> benzodiazepenes and alcohol affect many of the same neurotransmitters 00:18 < miniMerc> this is why something like xanax, valium, or klonopin are given to those withdrawing from alcohol to avoid seizures 00:18 < miniMerc> so, ya, it is a treatment 00:26 <@Catonic> dasunt: sorry to hear that 00:26 <@Catonic> hope you get better 00:27 <@Catonic> I'm going to attempt to get some sleep and forget about how much my life sucks. 00:27 < eryc> geter done! 00:40 <@dasunt> I need to sleep soon. 00:49 <@Evilpig> sleep is for the weak 01:13 -!- Genphlux [n=Genphlux@c-75-66-241-38.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:24 <@Dagmar> Wow. Those took all of 30s to find 01:24 <@Dagmar> ...and frankly, they're not worth worrying over. 01:24 <@Dagmar> Someone was kinda an asshole for filming her tho 01:24 < coil> microsoft in violation of gpl code 01:25 < coil> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/23/microsoft_hyperv_gpl_violation/ 01:34 <@Dagmar> Seriously tho, if anyone was wondering about this Andrews chick's "videos" 01:34 <@Dagmar> They're crap. 01:34 <@Dagmar> THey're miniscule resolution--if they were taken with anything like a "professional" camera, it's been dropped a lot 01:34 <@Dagmar> They're low frame rate, and they wobble around because the person couldn't hold the thing steady 01:34 <@Dagmar> _Banner ads_ have better resolution 01:35 <@Dagmar> ...and most importantly, those women yammering about it on CNN have REALLY got an overblown idea about what went on 01:35 <@Dagmar> Hopefully ESPN will actually nail the person who took 'em and fire him because it was a crappy thing to do 01:36 <@Dagmar> Actually I think it took less time for me to decide they were a waste of disk space than it took to find them 01:36 <@Dagmar> heh 01:37 <@Dagmar> There were several clips, I looked at parts of the first two and that was about all it took to hit ctrl-A, shift-delete 01:37 <@Dagmar> I'm betting it'll take less than a week for some comedian to award her something like a "Crappiest Home Video" award 01:39 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: I found it 01:39 <@Evilpig> it was my backup stuff. it was trying to backup 10GB of extra shit from my pc and it filled the drive so postfix was erroring out cause of a full drive 01:40 <@Dagmar> OKay 01:40 <@Dagmar> You might want to clarify for the folks watching at home that you were not referring to the Erin Andrews videos 01:40 <@Dagmar> Specifically, that you weren't looking for those while at work. 01:40 <@Dagmar> Heh 01:40 <@Dagmar> ...cuz that's what the last 20 lines of me talking about was in re to 01:40 <@Evilpig> erin wha? 01:41 <@Dagmar> jeez put it on CNN they'll still be going on about that, the murdered couple, and Erin Andrews of CNN 01:41 <@Dagmar> Some ass she works with apparently shoved a camera phone up against the spyhole of her hotel room door and recorded her naked 01:41 <@Evilpig> I'm still watching fight club 01:41 <@Dagmar> The fact that the video is crap waaaaay eclipses the "naked woman" factor 01:42 <@Dagmar> Like, if it were a smidge more bad, it would be worth lauding it as the worst video most people have ever seen outside of something from '95 01:43 <@Dagmar> I found it amusing that CNN was going on and on all day about how horrible it was that 01:43 -!- Genphlux [n=Genphlux@c-75-66-241-38.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:44 <@Dagmar> CNN and ESPN are probbaly making the issue more notable than any other factor 02:31 < Jagobah> http://imgur.com/o7Uu9.png real time polls 02:31 < Jagobah> hrmmmm 02:31 < Jagobah> actual time polls? 02:33 <@Evilpig> wtf is with iowa? 02:36 <@Dagmar> They have a lot of farmers. 02:36 <@Evilpig> guess I shoudl get to it and run these fiber 04:10 <@Evilpig> neat http://blueboy.wilpig.org/cgi-bin/philesight/philesight.cgi 04:17 <@Evilpig> bah I can't get the caching to work right 07:41 <@sdodson> so wecan dos you? 07:42 <@Evilpig> thieves steal two trucks full of beer about 3,000 6 packs 07:50 -!- Drag0n` [n=dragon@12.116.138.30] has joined #se2600 07:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Drag0n`] by ChanServ 08:07 -!- coil [i=coil@unaffiliated/coil] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:18 <@Shadow404> is it possible to buy a static ip from a third party and have it routed to your dynamic IP. 08:22 <@opticron> an all-port proxy? 08:23 <@opticron> or are you talking redirection at the router level? 08:26 <@opticron> Shadow404, that's just an ugly idea 08:27 <@opticron> the router closest to you would have to advertise a route to that IP, and then do IP translation, unless you bring up a subinterface with the redirected IP, but then you just have that IP 08:27 -!- Gallimaufry [n=Gallimau@66.128.252.244] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 08:29 <@opticron> there's also the issue (if you're doing translation) of how the router knows if it should translate the source IP of outbound packets 08:33 <@Evilpig> you could pull it off with a vpn tunnel 08:33 <@opticron> but that would actually be having said IP 08:33 <@opticron> he just wants a redirect :D 08:36 <@Shadow404> well, yes, i dont want to buy the comcast business plan just to get a static ip, that i can then put a reverse on 08:37 <@Shadow404> its a rip off for what i need, perfectly happy with the cost/speed im getting, just would like to have a static ip, i can set a ptr for as well 08:37 <@Evilpig> the comcast business stuff is a fuckin' joke. 08:38 <@Evilpig> requiring a 2 year contract or they are gonna pound you for an "install" fee 08:38 <@Shadow404> yep 08:38 <@Shadow404> that too 08:38 <@Shadow404> and i expect to be moving within 2 years to seattle 08:39 -!- polerin [n=erin@c-68-53-116-205.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:39 <@opticron> unfortunately, a vpn tunnel also means that you're relying on someone else's bandwidth and ISP to get things done 08:39 <@Shadow404> yep, and i dont wanna have to buy an additional service for that 08:56 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 09:12 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:16 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@the.narro.ws] has joined #se2600 09:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 09:16 -!- coil [i=coil@the.hacker.possessed.us] has joined #se2600 09:16 <@Shadow404> hai guys 09:17 <@Shadow404> http://www.snsweather.com/newpie.jpg 09:18 <@Shadow404> coil: cant run multiple hosts from the web server im using 09:18 <@Shadow404> drawback from the free version 09:27 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 09:28 <@nachoguy> anyone have a domain that uses the google apps? 09:28 <@nachoguy> email, calendaring, docs and all that? 09:32 <@Evilpig> yes 09:32 <@nachoguy> does it also come with gtalk? 09:32 <@Evilpig> lemme check but I think so 09:32 <@nachoguy> I can't seem to find an answer one way or the other 09:32 <@Evilpig> yes 09:33 <@Evilpig> lemme screenshot 09:33 <@nachoguy> nah, I believe you 09:37 <@Evilpig> http://wilpig.org/temp/googleapps.jpg that is what the admin page looks like 09:41 <@nachoguy> shadow404, what do you want the static IP for? hosting your weather stuff? 09:43 <@Shadow404> thats an playing with other stuff 09:45 <@Shadow404> want the static ip so i can setup a lab at home to play with stuff without fear of taken down a customer, heh 09:46 <@nachoguy> and you can't just set up one of your machines to check ipchicken.com (or other sites) to find out what the current IP is, and if it has changed, text you? 09:46 <@nachoguy> it's not pretty, but it'll work 09:48 <@Shadow404> no no no, i got dynamic hostname setup just fine 09:48 <@Shadow404> no issues 09:48 <@Shadow404> hell, i've been using dyndns since like 2003 09:49 <@Shadow404> i just wondered if my idea is even feasible on the routing level, minus the tunnel solution 09:49 <@nachoguy> not really 09:50 <@nachoguy> in theory you could buy a block of IPs from a provider and advertise the route out from your house, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that comcast will filter it 09:51 <@Shadow404> i would think so, since they want you to buy their business package bs 09:51 <@Shadow404> hell, i heard that bellsouth dsl is doing so badly at losing customers, they are giving their home customers static ips on an ask for basis for free 09:51 <@Shadow404> our very small fee 09:52 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=m0j0-j0j@rrcs-98-101-35-242.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #se2600 09:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o m0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 10:08 -!- Netsplit holmes.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Gatewayy, @rattle 10:09 -!- Gatewayy [n=gatewayy@gatewayy.net] has joined #se2600 10:13 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 10:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 10:14 -!- Gallimaufry [n=Gallimau@66.128.252.244] has joined #se2600 10:15 <@Dolemite> DOW > $9000 10:15 <@Dolemite> w00t! 10:16 -!- polerin [n=erin@c-68-52-241-208.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o polerin] by ChanServ 10:16 <@polerin> so nice to have a router that isn't dropping alla my shit ;P 10:17 < Gallimaufry> I am sorry to ask here. There was a developer that commuted suicide a few days ago after his company was hacked. Any one remember his name? 10:18 <@polerin> are you sure it was a developer? There was a chinese guy who was working on one of the iphone prototypes that "committed suicide" after one of the prototypes dissapeared 10:18 < Gallimaufry> :P I found it 10:19 < Gallimaufry> Sorry. It was the guy who did Kloxo 10:19 < Gallimaufry> http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/8880 10:21 <@sdodson> There's also admins at some company that did that 10:21 < Gallimaufry> Foxconn 10:22 < Gallimaufry> We need a give a dev a hug day 10:23 < [1NF0]_Work> s/hug/bj 10:23 < [1NF0]_Work> s/dev/tech 10:23 <@polerin> phtt 10:24 <@polerin> we need "don't push developers to turn out product in such a short amount of time" year 10:24 < Gallimaufry> Aqqq [1NF0]_Work wants a bj 10:24 < Gallimaufry> awww* 10:24 <@polerin> gee I wonder why software is so crappy 10:24 < Gallimaufry> [1NF0]_Work- Ill give you root 10:25 <@Dolemite> polerin : No, we need "We won't change project requirements once the development has begun" year 10:26 < [1NF0]_Work> yeah... there's a /lot/ of stress on devs... that I will agree with 10:26 < [1NF0]_Work> from marketing making near impossible deadlines to spec ambiguity and the like 10:27 <@polerin> Dolemite: that's not going to happen 10:27 <@polerin> heh 10:27 < Gallimaufry> Im not a dev, but if it was anything like the documentary on pushing netscape to opensource then I can only imagine 10:27 <@polerin> even though this latest client has been really cool about it 10:28 <@polerin> simple site with only minor changes, and most of those can be accomplished by adding a db record (yay for doing things the RIGHT way) 10:28 <@polerin> I credit my clear requirements gathering. XD 10:33 <@sdodson> polerin: Software is so crappy because developers suck? 10:44 <@polerin> well that too 10:44 <@polerin> ;p 10:44 <@polerin> trust me I see shitty code too 10:54 -!- dasunt [n=dasunt@unaffiliated/dasunt] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:56 -!- m0j0-j0j01 [n=m0j0-j0j@98.101.35.242] has joined #se2600 10:56 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=m0j0-j0j@rrcs-98-101-35-242.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:02 <@sdodson> cause you write it? :) 11:23 -!- miniMerc [n=merc@c-71-203-225-226.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["leaving"] 11:25 <@Catonic> wee 12:08 -!- m0j0-j0j01 [n=m0j0-j0j@98.101.35.242] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 12:14 <@polerin> sdodson: nah. I'm not the quickest coder, but my stuff isn't HORRIBLE. genrally comes out fairly focused :P 12:18 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=m0j0-j0j@rrcs-98-101-35-242.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #se2600 12:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o m0j0-j0j0] by ChanServ 12:21 <@sdodson> polerin: writing code that's long term maintainable is hard :( 12:21 <@polerin> not as hard as some people make it out to be 12:22 <@polerin> people just don't think ahead :P 12:22 <@sdodson> No, people are just coders not software engineers. 12:23 <@sdodson> which makes sdodson cry 12:23 * Corydon76-dig prefers software artists 12:24 <@Corydon76-dig> I've seen more engineers propose and write quick-and-dirty fixes that then need to be maintained 12:25 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: artist implies that it's not something bound by well understood processes. I think you're romaticizing about software development too much. 12:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Dunno if that's the fault of software engineering as a rule or simply that of individual engineers, but I much prefer people who consider quick and dirty fixes to be an affront to their existence 12:28 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I think it's more a question of whether you take pride in your code 12:31 <@polerin> I don't know what the hell I'm considered, but I do fit that last thing. Only problem is that the code I've been forced to clean up is just so bad I've had to hack it 12:31 <@polerin> this latst project thankfully is something we are doing from scratch 12:31 <@polerin> <3 reusable, clean, code. 12:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Probably my best experience to help me learn how to properly structure stuff was when I was a DBA for several years 12:32 <@Corydon76-dig> When you have to plan for 2 weeks for the downtime that lets you alter your structures, you get to be meticulous about making those structures right the first time 12:33 <@Catonic> taking pride in your work is not only necessary, it is essential. 12:34 <@polerin> I really need to take some DBA classes 12:34 <@polerin> just so I can have someone beat me over the head 12:34 <@Catonic> yes and no. 12:34 <@Catonic> you need to see how to do it right, but you also need experience doing right and wrong. 12:34 <@polerin> it's one of my weaknesses. I know how cake does it in general, and how we as a company do our specific style of things, but that doesn't really work on a formal theoretical type understanding 12:35 <@Catonic> fortunately, one can learn a lot from web 1.0 and web 2.0. 12:35 <@polerin> well, yeah, but trust me, Ive seen lots of wrong already 12:35 <@Catonic> livejournal, facebook, etc. all documented what they've had to do to scale systems based on perl or php and mysqel. 12:35 <@Catonic> *mysql 12:37 <@Catonic> polerin: if you can believe it, I have an injury right now that's enforcing good posture. 12:37 <@polerin> ... why would I not believe that? :P 12:38 <@Catonic> new kid, learning how to throw threw me wrong a few times.. the fourth one I hit something in my back when it was bent. 12:38 <@polerin> ouch 12:38 <@polerin> yeah that'll hurt 12:38 <@Catonic> now the only way it doesn't hurt is to have my back straight 12:39 <@polerin> sounds like you should practice being thrown incorrectly more ;) 12:39 <@Catonic> that kid gets on my nerves... he accellerates when he's doing the part that has the most possibility for injury. 12:39 <@polerin> or just not let the throw continue on if it's not good enough to do so 12:40 <@Catonic> sometimes it's easier to roll out, but dorkus ... omg, I wouldn't even do any of them to anyone else to demonstrate what was wrong. 12:40 <@Catonic> unless I *wanted* to hurt them jujitsu style. 12:41 <@Catonic> that kid just scares me and pisses me off all at once. 12:41 <@Catonic> he's a little too good at threatening joints... 12:41 <@Catonic> I had a moment last night, quite a few. 12:42 <@Catonic> he always complains before you even get close to a pain point on a wrist lock.. 12:43 <@Catonic> I just wanted to reach out and torque him over once real good. 12:43 <@Catonic> not my place, not my space, and against the rules. 12:43 <@polerin> talk to your sensei, let him do it ;p 12:43 <@polerin> or her 12:44 <@Catonic> one of my respected peers had an instructor torque his wrists way out to the point of damage on him. 12:44 <@polerin> they need to know about that for their dojo's safety, and they've likely handled situations like that many times before. Heh, I know I have. 12:44 <@polerin> (sidekick to the shortribs stopped that shit real quick) 12:44 <@Catonic> so I keep that in mind. 12:44 <@polerin> "Like that? no? Ok don't do it to other people." 12:44 <@Catonic> I wonder if he's done TKD as well.. his bag says that, and he showed up in a white gi. 12:45 <@Catonic> he's more focused on getting me down rather than learning the technique. 12:46 <@Catonic> we were also doing some stuff where we'd get thrown and then come back in for another attack, which would be something else.. 12:46 <@Catonic> again, I resisted the urge to just clobber or tackle him. 12:47 <@Catonic> I think I have anger management issues =) 12:48 <@polerin> people can get frustrating, but it's good to learn how to control that when you're mad. Helps keep you from making stupid mistakes in the real world if someone pisses you off. 12:54 <@sdodson> I just kickban idiots, can't do that in real life. 13:00 <@Catonic> polerin: that's fine, but when you pour alcohol into me it gets really, really difficult 13:00 <@polerin> actually, a martial arts studio is one of the few people where you COULD kickban 13:00 <@polerin> Catonic: lol 13:01 <@Catonic> I had to do that one night... one acquantance was drinking in a bar I was at and he started talking with a friend about a girl I was still hung up over... 13:01 <@Catonic> I went from pounding beers to pounding water. 13:02 <@Catonic> besides, $dorkus is autistic. He's not going to learn right away, it's going to take a long, long time for him. 13:03 <@polerin> hm. Well, autistic people aren't stupid, they just learn differently. The fact he's in a martial arts studio shows he's high functioning. He might respond well to logic on it, may not get the more subtle hints. 13:03 <@Catonic> I used to practice with a guy like that, so I give them more chances. 13:04 <@Catonic> I'm starting to learn that I like working with the bigger guys because if it isn't right, it doesn't work. 13:05 <@Catonic> I can take a girl who is 150 lbs and down and just throw her across the room. 13:05 <@Catonic> biking does have advantages =) 13:05 <@Catonic> anywho... 13:06 <@Catonic> I think that it is essential for one to take pride in one's work. 13:06 <@Catonic> If that means charging more for the finished product, so be it. 13:06 <@Catonic> but it is necessary for your own well-being to be able to rest on your laurels. 13:07 <@Catonic> another bit of wisdom I think I've learned... 13:07 <@Catonic> A lot of us learn a few things and build systems around them -- we are hackers after all. 13:07 <@Catonic> The difference in education -- a university degree -- and experience is that with education, you can solve larger problems. 13:08 <@polerin> exactly 13:08 <@Catonic> it's tuning a mysql-php app from in php to inside of the interpreter itself. 13:08 <@polerin> I love learning. That's my life, I try to absorb as much information an analysis as possible, and integrate it with my current knowledge set 13:12 <@polerin> anyway lunch time ;p 13:20 -!- dasunt [n=dasunt@71-34-18-172.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #se2600 13:20 * dasunt ponders, and ponders. 13:21 -!- sco [i=id@151.0.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit ["leaving"] 14:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> pondering about pondering 14:14 * Catonic wonders and wonders 14:14 <@aestetix> Hey, anyone here going to DefCon? 14:14 <@aestetix> and woah Dementia got engaged? congrats! 14:17 <@nachoguy> ahoy. How goes it aestetix? 14:19 <@m0j0-j0j0> Catonic: I think that you must continually advance your education as well as your experience. Tons of book knowledge with no real experience almost always fails while years of experience without continued education will leave you using antiquated methodologies unaware of better solutions. 14:20 <@sdodson> Catonic: jsut be leet like me 14:20 <@m0j0-j0j0> That being said.. all I want to learn at this point is how to stay out of the code. One more technology or language and I swear my eyes are going to start bleeding. 14:22 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: stop getting them pierced 14:23 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: I've never done my eyes, belly, lips or tongue. 14:23 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: Yet 14:24 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: in deed 14:24 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: it's a slippery slope, those are all gateway piercing 14:24 <@sdodson> soon you'll be a freak 14:24 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: soon 14:25 <@m0j0-j0j0> If it wasn't for my job I would get a couple of more 14:25 <@m0j0-j0j0> I think the belly and tongue might always be a no 14:26 <@Catonic> seen the cracked piercing guide? 14:26 <@m0j0-j0j0> aye don't wont tu sownd any moore stuppid than aye alrety du 14:27 <@m0j0-j0j0> Catonic: can't say that I have... I'm sure it's... educational 14:30 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: asscheeks? 14:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'm sure Dennis Rodmen get to make an appearance 14:31 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: nope... I don't really ever see that happening either... but I was going to get one on my arm at one point 14:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Here's one... rings on either sides of your asscheeks, then lock them together with a travel lock 14:31 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: I was going to get a gargoyle tat and have a ring in his nose 14:31 <@Corydon76-dig> The ultimate gay chastity device 14:32 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: sounds like it could get.... messy.. I eat a lot of fiber rich foods... 14:33 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: you just have to please your master enough to make sure she keeps it unlocked, then 14:33 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: I knew a girl who had both sides of her vaj-jay-jay ringged up so that she could lace it closed 14:34 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: sounds like a skin-embedded zipper, with lock 14:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: Ironically enough I'm not in touch with her anymore because she was too busy giving some P to anyone who would have it.... Her girlfriend was more of a monogamous kind of gal. 14:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> lez be friends 14:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah, a pansexual 14:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: no doubt a pan or two was up in there as well. 14:36 <@Catonic> pansexual? 14:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> Catonic: all they can get 14:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: loves everybody at once 14:36 <@Catonic> m0j0-j0j0: might surprise you, but there are moments when some people want to try a lot of something. 14:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Pansexuals are not typically monogamous 14:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Nor picky about which gender 14:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: apparently not 14:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Contrast bisexuals, who can be and are monogamous, in most cases 14:37 <@Catonic> meh, whatever. people do what they do. 14:38 <@Catonic> not everyone is rigged for monotony. 14:38 <@m0j0-j0j0> Catonic: I like morphine, but if you get to much of it... it will kill you 14:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Not everyone is rigged for sexuality, either 14:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Asexuals are on the complete opposite side of the scale from pansexuals 14:39 <@Catonic> some people just don't have the right mindset and/or models for it. 14:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: I think it's all mindset, actually 14:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> Catonic: I think that monogamy is a crime against nature, but with some many venereal diseases these days it's worth consideration. 14:41 <@m0j0-j0j0> condoms that don't always break would be a good step in the right direction 14:41 <@Catonic> there are some people who potentially could lose a mate if a force does not prevent that 14:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Monogamy is the only way to get some people into bed. You have to decide if they're worth it. 14:41 <@Catonic> those are the people who join churches, and vote republican. 14:42 <@Catonic> m0j0-j0j0: if fucking wasn't fun, people wouldn't have VD. 14:44 <@Corydon76-dig> and yes, Peaches is worth it 14:44 <@Dolemite> I simply get my peaches from a can 14:45 <@opticron> were they put there by a man in a factory downtown? 14:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: what about hairy black pussy? 14:45 <@Dolemite> I got mine from my veterinarian 14:46 <@m0j0-j0j0> Catonic: it is fun, but I'm not sure about how that effects the inevitable/unavoidable existence of VD. I'm not anti-free love. I'm not republican, I don't "belong" to a church, but I feel that discretion is a good quality to exhibit when finding friends (short or long term) 14:46 -!- Catonic changed the topic of #se2600 to: Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: what about hairy black pussy? | Dolemite> I got mine from my veterinarian 14:47 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: the chinese joint up the street 14:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: btw, have you fixed your hairy black pussy? 14:47 <@Dolemite> Of course! 14:47 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm about to have Peaches' wiener fixed 14:48 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: vasectomy 14:48 <@Dolemite> I'm pretty sure that you don't have to worry about Peaches getting you pregnant 14:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: wiener dog 14:48 <@m0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: that was my next question 14:48 <@Dolemite> Ah, spayed. 14:48 <@Dolemite> Or is it a girl? 14:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: nope, we've only tried getting Peaches pregnant, not me 14:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: neutered 14:49 <@Corydon76-dig> neuter for boys, spay for girls 14:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Johnny Gray Giant is getting close to the age for a neuter, too 14:49 <@Dolemite> So how big is Peaches' weiner? 14:49 <@Dolemite> Are we talking like a 10 pound weiner? 14:49 <@m0j0-j0j0> NeUTer for boys and sPAY for girls 14:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: it's a miniature wiener 14:50 <@Dolemite> I hope it hasn't affected Peaches confidence level. 14:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: when I say miniature, I think about 14 inches long 14:51 <@Dolemite> Well, we've always known about your affinity for large weiners. 14:51 <@Corydon76-dig> I had to chain it, it was getting messy on my back deck 14:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Now it only messes in the grass 14:52 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: watch out or it will tear your grass up 14:52 <@Dolemite> You should consider getting a hairy black pussy for the weiner to play with. It can be quite stimulating. 14:52 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: Nah, my Husky does that plenty already 14:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: unfortunately, I'm allergic to pussy 14:53 < Jagobah> ;0 14:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> and husky and a wiener in your grass 14:53 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-dig : That explains a lot, then 14:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Not that I don't like pussy... I LOVE pussy... I'm just allergic to it 14:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> at the same time.. I bet your grass is torn up 14:54 <@Dolemite> I swear, I can't get the people at work to leave my nuts alone 14:54 <@Corydon76-dig> If I have a chance, I'll play with pussy all afternoon... and then I'll have to go wash off 14:55 <@Dolemite> I bought a big container at Sam's and brought it in and I swear there's more leaving the container than I'm eating. 14:55 <@m0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: well, you just have to eat more nuts 14:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: salty nuts? 14:55 <@m0j0-j0j0> Dolemite: and be quick about it 14:56 <@Dolemite> salty deluxe mixed nuts 14:56 <@m0j0-j0j0> I try to resist eating other peoples nuts at work, but sometimes.. I just don't know what comes over me. 14:56 <@Corydon76-dig> I prefer my nuts unsalted... I do like the sweet taste of nuts, though 14:56 <@Dolemite> Well, yeah, sometimes nothing's better than getting a mouth full of nuts 14:57 <@Dolemite> But have some consideration... don't put someone else's nuts in your mouth unless you get their permission first! 14:57 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: the salty taste is the only reason to put it in your mouth in the first place. 14:57 <@Dolemite> Well there are the health benefits to consider 14:58 <@Dolemite> They are an excellent source of protein 14:58 <@Corydon76-dig> and unsaturated fat 14:58 <@Dolemite> yep yep 14:59 <@m0j0-j0j0> I can eat a great deal of nuts because they are on my diet. The book says so. 14:59 <@Corydon76-dig> and everybody needs a little bit more of nuts in their diet 14:59 <@m0j0-j0j0> amen 15:00 <@Dolemite> You should offer to put your nuts in peoples mouths at PhreakNIC 15:00 <@Dolemite> Spread the word about the benefits 15:02 <@m0j0-j0j0> we could schedule a talk on Corydon76-dig's nuts 15:02 <@m0j0-j0j0> and the benefits of eating them 15:02 <@Corydon76-dig> I've tried growing both fruits and nuts in my yard, but only fruits sprung up 15:03 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't know what it is about my yard, but nuts just won't grow there 15:12 <@polerin> apparently that's my back yard. all kinds of weirdoes around my neighborhood. 15:12 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: well, you could give a talk about the fruits 15:13 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: These days fruits are more popular than ever 15:13 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: Well, I have to wait until the fruit is mature 15:14 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: well, you won't go to jail if you bring in some immature fruit... just to show us of course... we wouldn't do anything with it. 15:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Speaking of which, I have some mature fruit in my kitchen that needs to be eaten 15:14 <@polerin> brain 15:15 <@polerin> bleach 15:15 <@polerin> please. 15:15 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: including some cherries 15:16 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: you know you like to sink your teeth into a nice juicy fruit every now and then. 15:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Once you've had some cherries to eat, you're just never the same 15:16 <@polerin> I'm trying to figure out if that's worse or better 15:16 <@polerin> ok 15:16 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: don't you like eating cherries? 15:16 <@polerin> It's worse. 15:16 <@polerin> nah, cherries give me indigestion. 15:17 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: I find that sometimes eating cherries leaves a stain behind 15:17 <@polerin> I prefer a better experience 15:17 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: You have to get your whole mouth around it, or it will stain 15:18 <@Corydon76-dig> but once you suck the juice out, there's no stain potential left 15:19 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: oh, that must be the problem.. I usually use my teeth like you would on well seasoned beef. 15:19 <@Corydon76-dig> See, I don't use my teeth on steak 15:20 <@Corydon76-dig> I find that if I have to use my teeth, it's just not ready yet. 15:28 -!- fie [n=fie@lan-reodist-184-222.customer.ntelos.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:38 -!- Drag0n` [n=dragon@12.116.138.30] has quit ["(Bread error (No route to Toast!!!!!))"] 17:03 <@sdodson> Do most places ensure that Dev environments match Stage and Prod? 17:32 -!- Dementia [n=sara@maxiez.com] has joined #se2600 17:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dementia] by ChanServ 17:38 -!- coil [i=coil@unaffiliated/coil] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 18:03 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: no 18:04 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: maybe _ensure_ it one dev cycle and assume it's been kept up for the next 11 or so. 18:05 <@polerin> http://karnythia.livejournal.com/1318848.html 18:05 <@polerin> jeesus fucking christ on a stick 18:05 <@polerin> seriously. 18:05 <@m0j0-j0j0> unless you do a code roll out and something doesn't go as expected 18:06 <@polerin> sdodson: We don't really, but then again, cake does a fairly good job of abstracting stuff so we don't have to give three shits. :P 18:07 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: Racism St. 18:07 <@polerin> m0j0-j0j0: yeah, but of course it's just one wingnut. 18:08 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: it's like there is an Internet full of them 18:09 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: speaking of which.. did you see that Merc is back? 18:09 <@polerin> who'd have thought 18:09 <@polerin> I did. 18:09 <@polerin> I've been told that I need to chill, so whatever 18:09 <@rhia> polerin: yeah, fwd by a florida neurosurgeon who is also a member of the AMA House of Delegates 18:09 <@polerin> yeah. 18:09 <@polerin> I read the article 18:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> and a Ski Instructor 18:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> while curing cancer 18:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> *shrug* 18:11 -!- m0j0-j0j0 [n=m0j0-j0j@rrcs-98-101-35-242.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has quit ["I'm heading to the gym. Have a good night folks."] 18:11 <@rhia> repeat a question i asked before: how often have sitting elected presidents _formally and publicly_ debated a member of Congress over policy or for anything BUT election/re-election? 18:12 <@polerin> I've no idea 18:12 <@Dagmar> You suck. 18:12 <@Dagmar> Based on the fact she's asking the question at all, the answer is rather likely zero. 18:13 <@rhia> i can't remember hearing on such a debate before, but that doesn't mean it never has - that's why i'm asking, very curious 18:14 <@rhia> considering a sitting US Senator has publically challenged Obama for just a such a debate 18:15 <@polerin> Dagmar: not neccisarily zero, but given the phrasing, it's likely a vanishingly small number of times, you're right. 18:15 -!- coil [i=coil@unaffiliated/coil] has joined #se2600 18:16 <@rhia> 1st thought was "damn, now that's REALLY showing disrespect bordering on downright contempt for the office of POTUS" - hence my question 18:16 <@Dagmar> rhia: Well, there's a rather likely obvious reason the number would be low 18:16 <@Dagmar> Such a debate would imply that the PoTUS was not, in fact, in charge. 18:16 <@rhia> that's along my line of thinking, yeah 18:17 <@Dagmar> Regardless of whether or not he's supposed to be a third branch equal in power to the legislative and judiciary branch, there's that king worship shit going on 18:17 <@Dagmar> I can see them having a private discussion, but a public debate? Noo... 18:17 <@rhia> nods 18:18 <@rhia> still curious as to why no-one seems to be raking DeMint over the coals for calling for one 18:19 <@rhia> you know if Kucinch had challenged Bush to one, the RNC, GOP, and media would have been howling 18:19 <@Dagmar> Blood was in the water then 18:20 <@Dagmar> rhia: BTW, if you want to see evidence that things are getting better, take a look at CNN's "Black In America" thing they're airing 18:20 <@rhia> well, DeMint also thinks that Obama personally runs the DNC and picks the ads they chose to run, and that the DNC stating the obvious is a False Personal Attack directly from Obama 18:20 <@Dagmar> Half of the 'downtrodden' they report on sound like they're spoiled rotten to me 18:22 <@Dagmar> Stuff was certainly not that way when I was a kid 18:22 <@Dagmar> I wound up sitting through it yesterday, and at least it seems to indicate that things are getting better despite the jackasses out there 18:24 <@rhia> definitely better since i was a kid - we still had Men, Women, and Colored water fountains & bathrooms, and separate areas for blacks in restaurants (if allowed in at all to eat) 18:25 -!- dasunt_ [n=dasunt@63-229-193-238.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #se2600 18:33 -!- [1NF0]1 [n=[1NF0]@24.99.70.4] has joined #se2600 18:34 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:34 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@c-98-193-197-72.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #SE2600 18:34 -!- dasunt__ [n=dasunt@63-229-192-74.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #se2600 18:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 18:34 -!- [1NF0] [n=[1NF0]@24.99.70.4] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:34 -!- [1NF0]1 is now known as [1NF0] 18:36 -!- dasunt [n=dasunt@71-34-18-172.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:46 -!- dasunt_ [n=dasunt@63-229-193-238.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:04 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@97.81.141.96] has joined #se2600 19:05 -!- coil [i=coil@unaffiliated/coil] has quit ["ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net"] 19:12 -!- coil [i=coil@unaffiliated/coil] has joined #se2600 19:32 -!- coil [i=coil@unaffiliated/coil] has quit ["ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net"] 19:32 -!- coil [i=coil@unaffiliated/coil] has joined #se2600 19:41 -!- Jagobah [n=ljugo@adsl-80-80-20.owb.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:42 -!- Jagobah [n=ljugo@adsl-80-80-20.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:07 -!- dasunt [n=dasunt@63-229-194-5.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #se2600 20:20 -!- dasunt__ [n=dasunt@63-229-192-74.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:51 -!- jeebusroxors [n=pwnasaur@cpe-065-188-034-121.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 20:51 -!- jeebusroxors [n=pwnasaur@unaffiliated/jeebusroxors] has quit [Client Quit] 21:14 -!- CRasH180 [n=crash180@pdpc/supporter/bronze/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 21:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 22:12 -!- Netsplit holmes.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @Dolemite, Thrynn, scribbles, @rhia, @kive, @rattle 22:13 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @rattle, @Dolemite, @rhia, scribbles, Thrynn, @kive 22:21 -!- Netsplit holmes.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @Dolemite, Thrynn, scribbles, @ChanServ, @kive, @rhia, @rattle 22:22 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @kive, Thrynn, scribbles, @rhia, @Dolemite, @rattle, @ChanServ 22:26 -!- Gallimaufry_ [n=Gallimau@66.128.252.244] has joined #se2600 22:26 -!- Gallimaufry_ is now known as kleinbl00 22:26 < kleinbl00> FUCK YOU GUISE 22:26 < kleinbl00> oh shit haha 22:26 < kleinbl00> damn I need to learn to read what channel I am in 22:27 -!- kleinbl00 [n=Gallimau@66.128.252.244] has quit [Client Quit] 22:29 -!- vyrus001 [n=Vyrus001@vnet.dc949.org] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dasunt] by ChanServ 23:02 -!- CRasH180 [n=crash180@pdpc/supporter/bronze/CRasH180] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:08 -!- strages [n=strages@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:09 -!- strages [n=strages@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o strages] by ChanServ 23:12 -!- miniMerc [n=merc@c-71-203-225-226.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:25 -!- Gallimaufry is now known as Gallimaufry|poop 23:32 -!- Gallimaufry|poop is now known as Gallimaufry 23:47 <@sdodson> hi 23:48 < Gallimaufry> hey 23:48 <@sdodson> Catonic: http://i25.tinypic.com/213rg48.jpg you should get that! 23:49 <@sdodson> Gallimaufry: WHO ARE YOU? 23:49 < Gallimaufry> No one really 23:49 <@sdodson> Gallimaufry: That's sad. 23:50 < Gallimaufry> Just a bit 23:50 < Gallimaufry> I am at peace with it 23:55 < eryc> at least your not browsing gay porn like sdodson 23:56 * miniMerc frowns at sdodson 23:59 <@sdodson> eryc: mmkay, WHERE DA PARTY AT DAWGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG? --- Log closed Fri Jul 24 00:00:07 2009