--- Log opened Sun Jul 19 00:00:31 2009
00:04 <@Catonic> what tastes like fish and makes you feel awesome?
00:44 <@Evilpig> fish?
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03:59 <@Catonic> sushi
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08:21 <@sdodson> Is it micro or mini usb b that the cell phone industry has settled on?
08:21 <@Evilpig> they've settled?
08:22 <@Evilpig> http://www.geardiary.com/2009/02/22/mini-usb-to-micro-usb-adapter-solves-blackberry-charger-incompatibility-issues-194/
08:29 <@sdodson> http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/news.phtml/25149/next-iphone-charges-via-micro-usb.phtml
08:29 <@sdodson> apparenty china or japan has had standards mandated at the governmental level for a long time that cell phones charge via a particular usb type
08:29 <@sdodson> i imagine microusb in that case too
08:39 <@Catonic> is that the incompatible but usb like connector on my phone that doesn't look like usb?
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08:42 <@Catonic> There goes the hood
09:04 <@oddball> sdodson: most phones that I've come accross lately that don't use proprietary crap use mini-usb
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10:51 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: unfortunately, even with USB, there appears to be proprietary crap interfaces
10:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Weirdly shaped interfaces that only accept cables that come with the device and aren't easily available in stores
10:53 <@Corydon76-dig> even though the other end of the cable is standard USB A.
11:03 <@oddball> Which is why I mentioned it.
11:14 <@sdodson> I imagine with countries like China and the EU mandating standard connectors it'll end up being more costly to provide proprietary stuff in the US and standard stuff in those areas so we'll all end up with microusb.
11:14 <@sdodson> My Pre uses microusb and it's using a microusb cable that I found with a blackberry charger just fine.
11:19 <@oddball> I wish they had gone with mini USB since I have a boat load of things that use mini, but...
11:22 <@sdodson> micro for some reason seems tighter and stronger
11:24 <@oddball> I guess going with micro meant that they couldn't use the excuse of "well, the plug is too big for our phone."
11:25 <@sdodson> The difference in size between the two is negligible
11:25 <@sdodson> micro is about .5mm thinner
11:29 <@tzanger> sdodson: how do you like the pre?
11:30 <@sdodson> tzanger: it's cool, hoping they release OS 1.1 this week and it includes vpn. Their opensource packages includes vpnc so i'm sure they're just working on the UI.
11:31 <@sdodson> Battery life has been shit, I uninstalled Tweed so I'm hoping to see if that makes any difference.
11:31 <@sdodson> Tweed seemed to update about every 90 seconds or so.
11:31 <@tzanger> ugh
11:31 <@sdodson> Wikipedia says Mini USB is 3x7mm and microusb is half as thick.
11:32 <@sdodson> neat, they say micro is rated for 10,000 plug/unplug cycles
11:34 <@sdodson> Battery life is about 36 hours under my usage. So I bought the touchstone, i just set it on there each night when I go to bed.
11:35 <@Evilpig> sdodson: my treo I have to watch the internet connection cause when it is on it sucks the battery dry.  is the pre having a similar issue?
11:35 <@oddball> sdodson: That's not bad at all for a smart phone.
11:36 <@sdodson> Pre is basically always online as far as i can tell.
11:36 <@sdodson> I uninstalled Tweed last night so i'll see how well it does today.
11:38 <@Evilpig> I gotta run back into the data center and finish up my fiber project before shift change
11:38 <@Evilpig> this night has gone by way too fast.  didn't get near enough done for my taste
11:39 <@oddball> Yeah, pulling data sucks battery life.
11:58 <@sdodson> http://sdodson.livejournal.com/9456.html  brief write up on my experience
12:02 <@Evilpig> do you still need any of your old palm apps?  have you had to try and use them yet?
12:03 <@sdodson> Evilpig: No, the classic mode app is a pay app with only a 7 day trial so i've not tried it.
12:03 <@sdodson> I think it's $50 app :(
12:03 <@sdodson> I'm hoping that within the next 30 days or so the app market will explode since they released the SDK
12:03 <@Evilpig> youch
12:03 <@Evilpig> okay.  pat is here.  I gotta give up my puter.
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13:37 <@Catonic> It's Pat
13:37 <@Catonic> mmmmmmhello?
13:47 <@sdodson> Catonic: hi
13:49 <@sdodson> Catonic: do you listen to podcasts?
14:31 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Pat is a coworker who generally uses the same workstation Wilpig does
14:31 <@Dagmar> I'm a bit less picky about which workstation I use
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17:18 <@sdodson> http://theroxor.com/wp-content/uploads/australiaday.jpg
17:22 < fall0ut> god hates australia
17:32 <@sdodson> rhia: I want to buy some house plants.
17:32 <@sdodson> rhia: Which ones are poisonous to cats.
17:33 <@sdodson> ya know... so I don't buy those.
18:40 <@Shadow404> omg, diaf sdodson
18:41 <@Shadow404> sdodson: you are so trying to kill your cat, aren't you. Oh look, i spelled aren't right.
18:48 <@rhia> sdodson:  http://www.cfainc.org/articles/plants.html  for a start
18:48 <@rhia> cats really, really LIKE to chew on plants
18:49 <@Shadow404> not outdoor/indoor cats
18:49 <@rhia> just grow 'artistic' 'designery' wheat grass
18:49 <@rhia> Shadow404: yes, they do, they just chew outside
18:50 <@Shadow404> yeah, good point
18:50 <@Shadow404> but they have a wider variety of plants to sample, so they dont focus on just one and get a lethal dose of asomething apparently lethal
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19:00 < miniMerc> hiiii
19:21 <@sdodson> rhia: Yes, my cat has destroyed my bamboo plant
19:21 <@sdodson> haha, miniMerc found the weakest link
19:30 < miniMerc> sdodson: my client autoconnected to the other channel and he showed up
19:30 < miniMerc> i didnt find shit
19:30 < miniMerc> just asked, since he was there
19:31 < miniMerc> sdodson: what happened? why do ircops care if a channel is kick happy?
19:32 <@Shadow404> sdodson: weakest link...this coming from a genetic lab test gone wrong
19:38 < miniMerc> thats some big brother shit right there
19:38 < miniMerc> hell, i was one of the ones being kicked :)
19:38 <@Shadow404> heh, big brother has a file on me already
19:39 < miniMerc> im sure they have one on me too, since i once contracted for the air force
19:39 < miniMerc> they printed me et al
19:43 <@sdodson> miniMerc: no idea
19:43 <@sdodson> you hosers stop distracting me from Sin City
19:46 < miniMerc> good movie
19:46 <@Shadow404> sdodson:
19:46 <@Shadow404> sdodson:
19:46 <@Shadow404> sdodson:
19:46 <@Shadow404> did i distract you?
19:46 <@sdodson> miniMerc: I have The Spirit too
19:46 < miniMerc> havent seen that one
19:46 < miniMerc> watched 'inland empire' last night
19:46 <@Shadow404> hey sdodson
19:46 < miniMerc> im still scratching my head
19:46 <@sdodson> They're not a series or anything but it's same type of stuff.
19:46  * Shadow404 waves at sdodson 
19:47 <@Shadow404> that distracting yet?
19:47 < miniMerc> sdodson: yeah that guy always makes the same kind of movie
19:47 < miniMerc> same kind of photography and whatnot
19:47 <@sdodson> I've heard The Spirit isn't very good.
19:47 <@sdodson> miniMerc: so what's new?
19:47 < miniMerc> nada
19:48 < miniMerc> watching cops
20:07 < miniMerc> plus, farted
20:34 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKTsWjbjQ8E
20:35 <@CRasH180> The Spirit sssssUUUUCCCKKKKeeeeddd
20:35 <@sdodson> almost as awesome as http://www.flickr.com/photos/passiveaggressive/3642661392/
20:35 <@CRasH180> I could not watch it all the way through it was that bad
20:35 <@CRasH180> I had high hopes for it. Alas, they were extremely wrong.
20:36 <@sdodson> CRasH180: oh
20:36 <@CRasH180> You can try to watch it if you like
20:38 <@sdodson> weill i paid blockbuster more than my monthly netflix fees so i better watch it
20:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> sin city was an okay movie.  I enjoyed the cinematography (very cool stuff), but it all seemed forced... like a movie that doesn't have enough of a plot so it has to lean on special effects... the deal is that I think Frank Miller has a good enough plot without them having to try so hard on the effects stuff
20:40 <@sdodson> uhh there's like no special effects
20:40 <@sdodson> well atleast nothing realistic i guess
20:41 <@CRasH180> wha?
20:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: nothing noticeably trying to be realistic, agreed, but they have a lot of effect shots in that film
20:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> like,,, most of it
20:42 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: how was blowing
20:42 <@sdodson> i mean bowling
20:44 <@m0j0-j0j0> we all had a good time as expected and then went out for some mexican chow.  I'm nice to get together and hang out more than once a month is a coffee shop which karaoke next door
20:45 <@m0j0-j0j0> some guy I hadn't seen before showed up, but he seems like a nice enough fella.
20:46 <@m0j0-j0j0> he's the once that tipped NF off about the ham-fest in Cary.. he's like a radio guy at NCstates radio station
20:47 <@sdodson> m0j0-j0j0: what was his name?
20:47 <@m0j0-j0j0> austin
20:47 <@sdodson> i should have gone but wtf who goes at 6pm? don't you hosers have jobs?
20:47 <@sdodson> I had a birthday party to go to too.
20:48 <@sdodson> will have to catch it next go around
20:49 <@m0j0-j0j0> yeah 6 kinda sucks, but it gives me a good reason to leave work on time
20:50 <@m0j0-j0j0> I've got to round up the trash... bbiam
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21:24 <@Shadow404> hey sdodson
21:24 <@Shadow404> hey sdodson
21:24 <@Shadow404> whats up sdodson
21:24 <@Shadow404> youstill watching that Sin City
21:24 <@Shadow404> hey sdodson
21:40 < miniMerc> hotwings time
21:42 <@sdodson> Shadow404: nope, just finished, it was good, thanks for not interrupting me
22:26 <@Dagmar> Good Pre details.  Thanks
22:27 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Thanks.
22:28 <@sdodson> I hope to tear into the dev kit soon, I love that Palm hasn't gone gestapo on homebrew shit.
22:29 <@sdodson> The only hacks they've patched out are those that involve remote exploits. So in order to install something you have to have physical access to the device to enter "upupdowndownleftrightleftrightabstart" to put it in dev mode then hook it up and upload whatever you like.
22:34 <@Dagmar> No fucking way
22:35 <@Dagmar> They really used THAT code?
22:35 <@Dagmar> That's awesome
22:37 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Ya. So enter that code, it pops up with a button to click on to enter dev mode, it reboots, you attach it then drag drop your app.
22:38 <@sdodson> There are SOME homebrew apps that require rooted phones but apparently that's easy to do too.
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22:51 < miniMerc> hebrew apps
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22:52 < [1NF0]> who brew apps?
22:53 <@sdodson> http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs106.snc1/4785_528864344550_9902109_31567511_6818257_n.jpg  <- He'Brew
22:54 < [1NF0]> that looks totally odd
22:55 <@Dagmar> It's liquid bread
22:55 <@Dagmar> Seriously
22:55 < miniMerc> raicts
22:55 < miniMerc> beer is a food
22:55 <@Dagmar> The stuff is *thick*
22:55 <@Dagmar> They had that in corner markets in SF
22:56 <@sdodson> My friend, a jew, felt compelled to get it. He said it tasted like shit.
22:56 <@sdodson> He's a wheat beer guy.
22:57 < [1NF0]> you know guys made out of wheat beer?
22:57 <@Dagmar> I kinda have to agree.
22:57 <@Dagmar> I didn't care for it
22:57 <@sdodson> [1NF0]: This guy is very close to being made of beer.
22:57 <@Dagmar> It was *too* bread-dy
22:57 <@sdodson> Every time we go out he throws back atleast 8 beers then turns to scotch.
23:01 <@sdodson> Usually something absurdly expensive like Johny Walker Blue
23:06 <@Catonic> hoyo
23:08 <@sdodson> Catonic: hi
23:08 < miniMerc> yoho
23:08 <@sdodson> Catonic: you fix your php issues?
23:10 <@Catonic> php?
23:11 <@Catonic> no
23:11 <@Catonic> I drank.
23:11 <@Catonic> then I realized that freebsd, despite sucking hind tit, still has php-5.2 and RHEL 5.2 doesn't.
23:17 < [1NF0]> hind tit?
23:18 <@Catonic> hind teat
23:18 <@Catonic> is notlarry around?
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23:48 < miniMerc> bububububutbutbutbut i got charcoals in my heart
23:49 < miniMerc> i got charcoals in my heart...
23:49 < miniMerc> i got charcoals by the armfulls
23:49 < miniMerc> itll burn my armor apart
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