--- Log opened Fri Jul 17 00:00:31 2009
00:12 <@juice> http://imgur.com/0vmLH.jpg
00:13 < Grymstone> lol
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03:20 <@dasunt> God damn, I love the vegetarian forums.
03:29 <@dasunt> Today's best thread:  Someone talking about racism and mentioning that their ancestors (the Irish) were not treated well.
03:29 <@dasunt> Response:  Were they treated as slaves?
03:29 <@dasunt> Utter History Fail.
03:57 < eryc> the chinese were
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08:35 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
08:37 <@nachoguy> dagmar, you around?
08:41 <@nachoguy> http://imgur.com/SgBfu.gif
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08:54 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
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09:56 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
09:56 <@rhia> http://notalwaysright.com/kookie-cookie-karma/2230  if only ....
09:58 <@nachoguy> http://imgur.com/SgBfu.gif
09:58 <@nachoguy> quasi nsfw
09:58 <@nachoguy> but that needs to get to Dagmar
10:40 <@Evilpig> anyone in here have access to MSDN discs?
10:40 <@Evilpig> I really need an ISO of WinXP64SP3 enterprise
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11:25 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: PING
11:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, on the guns in bars law, insurance companies are telling bar owners to ban guns, or face having their liability coverage cancelled.
11:34 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.wsmv.com/news/20053165/detail.html
11:36 <@rhia> http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?Pants_man_proposes_in_spoof_Bedingfield_film&in_article_id=703348&in_page_id=2
11:36 <@rhia> sigh
11:36 <@rhia> http://lnk.nu/metro.co.uk/y8q.html
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11:43 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: even one of these?
11:43 <@rhia> http://www.swissminigun.ch/gallery_steel.html
11:44 <@rhia> itty bitty bang bang
11:45 <@rhia> awww, can't be imported here =(
11:45 <@rhia> but can be in Canada
11:45 <@Drag0n`> what is the a .02 cal pistol?
11:46 <@Drag0n`> for shooting palmetto bugs?
11:46 <@rhia> need a few shots for those
11:46 <@Dementia> you need something bigger for those
11:46 <@Drag0n`> thast why its a revolver, 6 rounds will take it out
11:47 <@Drag0n`> not supposed to be quick, got to send a message back to the rest of em as he dies horibly from the multiple holes
11:47 <@rhia> be vewy vewy quiwit, i'm hunting bugs
11:47 <@Drag0n`> need a silencer as an accessory
11:48 <@rhia> lol
11:48 <@Drag0n`> stick a marshmellow on the end, there ya go
11:48 <@opticron> i'd be afraid the thing would explode in my hand
11:48 <@Drag0n`> yeah, and bruise you at the worst
11:49 <@opticron> what can i say, i bruise easily
11:50 <@Drag0n`> it has 1 joule of power, and is a 2.34mm cartrige
11:50 <@Drag0n`> its got less power than a pump bb gun
11:50 <@Drag0n`> http://www.swissminigun.ch/ammunition.html
11:52 <@Drag0n`> lol
11:52 <@Drag0n`> Our Miniature Revolver ref. C1ST is not permitted to be imported into the United States.
11:52 <@Drag0n`> We have received a letter from the US Department of Justice mentioning that our Miniature Revolver does not meet with the minimum size prerequisites referring to the Factoring Criteria for Weapons ATF Form 4590.
11:52 <@Drag0n`> Our revolver therefore, is not classified as sporting and is not importable.
11:52 <@Drag0n`> the last line is the kicker
11:52 <@Drag0n`> Our revolver therefore, is not classified as sporting and is not importable.
11:52 <@Drag0n`> awww, it doesnt stand a sporting chance
11:52 <@rhia> but you can bling it out with gold & diamonds - there's a gang joke in there somewhere
11:54 <@Drag0n`> http://www.swissminigun.ch/gallery_gold.html
11:54 <@Drag0n`> yep
11:55 <@Drag0n`> the will get the bling blang
11:56 <@rhia> http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/cliff-kuang/design-innovation/furniture-will-give-you-nightmares
11:56 <@rhia> speaks for itself
11:59 < coil> hi what are good shells
12:03 <@Drag0n`> clam, conch, oyster, sea
12:04 <@rhia> bash, ksh, sh, korn
12:05 < coil> whose a good shell provider
12:05 <@Drag0n`> ahh, well, thats a different story, been a long time since i dealt with shell providers, all mine are closed
12:06 <@Evilpig> http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/9181
12:06 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: just get a VPS
12:06 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: vpslink.com is what I use
12:07 <@Drag0n`> so, pig, your saying upgrading from 3.0 is a bad thing right now
12:07 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: run whatever you want, limits only on disk space and monthly bandwidth
12:08 < coil> no proc limit?
12:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Nope
12:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, you have memory constraints
12:09 < coil> wheres vpslink at
12:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Multiple locations for server farms
12:11 <@Corydon76-dig> The NOC for mine is in Seattle, I think
12:11 < coil> aww they dont have any fbsd shells
12:11 < coil> all linux
12:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, I'm using 15% of my diskspace and 0% of my monthly bandwidth for July
12:13 < coil> why do you have one
12:13 < coil> what do you do with it, how much ram do you have (what package)
12:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Mail redirector
12:13 <@Corydon76-dig> 256MB (VPSLink 3)
12:13 <@Corydon76-dig> That includes some anti-spamware
12:13 < coil> $20 a mon
12:13 < coil> month
12:14 < coil> i dont see why i would need a vps though
12:15 <@Corydon76-dig> 10% lifetime discount if you use code DD8C02 when signing up
12:15 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: basically, it's what shell services have evolved into
12:16 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: instead of getting a non-root shell, you have a virtual box that you can do anything you want with
12:16 <@Corydon76-dig> including root access
12:16 < coil> what about fdcservers.net
12:16 < coil> are they good?
12:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Beats me
12:17 <@Corydon76-dig> http://vpslink.com/?ref=DD8C02
12:18 < coil> 201.12
12:18 < coil> for a year
12:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Tapeworm from a 4.4 lb rabbit:  http://www.linedgroundsquirrels.com/TapewormParasite.html
12:20 < coil> ouch, my minimum payment due for both credit cards went up almost two fold
12:20 < coil> late payments suck
12:21 < coil> wait, it was $10 now its $45
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12:37 < NotLarry> polo
12:44 <@Dagmar> Damn... Some news teasers should NOT be left open-ended.
12:44 <@Dagmar> They were just talking about a man with two left hands after a hand transplant getting used to grabbing and touching things "but there's still one thing left he wants to do"
12:57 <@m0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: bowl?
13:00 <@Drag0n`> clap
13:00 <@Dagmar> See... it's just too open ended
13:01 <@Drag0n`> thats the idea, to hook you in to coming back to find out
13:02 <@Drag0n`> just how bad it could be
13:07 <@aestetix> http://makeloveland.com/
13:07 <@m0j0-j0j0> no, it was totally bowling.. with the Raleigh crew hitting the lanes it's without a doubt what he wants to be part of
13:08 <@m0j0-j0j0> aestetix: nsfw?
13:08 <@aestetix> no it's safe
13:09 <@aestetix> It's my former coworker's response to the real estate crisis
13:11 <@m0j0-j0j0> very... blinking animated gif-esk
13:19 <@Drag0n`> with subtle old school 3d color scheme
13:27 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: totally mind bowling?
13:28 <@nachoguy> coil: vpsvillage is really cheap
13:28 <@nachoguy> have no experience with them though
13:28 <@nachoguy> Dagmar, I found a quasi-nsfw pic for you
13:28 <@nachoguy> http://imgur.com/SgBfu.gif
13:28 <@Dagmar> Well, I'm at work so no
13:29 <@nachoguy> ah, well. consider it a response to the kid that had his wow account deleted
13:29 < rattleXw> Does anyone know if it's possible to make Snort preform md5 (or sha1) hashes on all files it sees fly over a network?
13:30 <@Dagmar> I don't think so
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14:18 < scud> how many shits would tubgirl take if tubgirl could take shits in a shower full of shit while shitting shit in the shower?
14:19  * m0j0-j0j0 rolls his eyes and goes back to writing documentation.
14:19 < coil> scud 3
14:20 <@Shadow404> scud: 69, is she had a partner in the tub
14:20 < coil> stfu sh
14:21  * Shadow404 returns to configuring border routers for the new POP in germany
14:21 <@Shadow404> coil: diaf
14:22 < coil> Shadow404 -- makes everything cliche to the point you want to kill him.
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14:26 < coil> he should, like, diaf or something...
14:39 < rattleXw> Going back and forth working on routers running junos and ios is like going back and forth between driving a Mercedes S class and a Geo Metro.
14:42 < rattleXw> I really, really, really hate IOS.
14:49 < eryc> ha
14:50  * eryc is glad he doesnt know junos
14:51 <@Shadow404> eryc: i send that, juno sucks
14:54 < rattleXw> I can't think of anything about IOS that's better than JunOS.
14:56 < rattleXw> Candidate configuration, rather than every config command going live instantly.  Built in revision control.  The ability to preform command mode functions while in configuration mode.  Clean and intuitive config hierarchy.  No fucking absurd myriad of feature trains and versions limiting functionality..
14:57 <@Catonic> ow my ass.
14:59 <@Catonic> oooh.
15:00 <@Catonic> I'm beginning to wish I'd stayed on the networks side.
15:01 <@Catonic> In networks, you get the spec, you build it, and then you defend it from attacks by management and users.
15:01 < rattleXw> I can't decided if I'm lucky or cursed..  I do systems and networks.
15:02 <@Catonic> "Yes, the internet is working. Yes, the internet is slow. All of your users are streaming Jackson's Funeral. Please tell your users not to do that."
15:02 < rattleXw> I prefer to address that problem by just having an obscene amount of bandwidth..  :)
15:03 < rattleXw> And egress traffic control is nice too..
15:03 < rattleXw> The PaloAlto Networks boxes are super fucking rad.
15:12 <@Catonic> why is the threat prevention half of the throughput?
15:16 < rattleXw> Eh?
15:18 < rattleXw> Oh..  It can relay traffic faster than it can deep inspect it.
15:18 < rattleXw> Like any firewall, it's throughput is dependent on policy complexity.
15:20 < rattleXw> When it's scanning every network transaction through a signature database, it's going to have a lower max throughput than if you are just doing a basic policy..
15:22 <@Catonic> funny.
15:23 <@Catonic> When you get to this size and throughput, you almost have to reinvent the wheel... build the database into a hardware table so a FPGA can scan it
15:26 <@m0j0-j0j0> reboot time
15:26 <@m0j0-j0j0> bbiaf
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15:27 < rattleXw> I've been pretty happy with the thing so far..
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15:27 < rattleXw> If I was architecting from the ground up, I'd probably make it my primary security gateway.
15:28 < rattleXw> They are not cheap though..
15:29 < sariel> palo alto boxes?
15:29 < rattleXw> I have not used the central management system for them..  I'm guessing it's basically the same as the web management, which is pretty good.
15:30 < rattleXw> Another month or so, and I should have it fully integrated with my SIM..  I'm looking forward to that.
15:30 <@Catonic> outbound content compliance scares me.
15:31 <@Catonic> as a user.
15:31 < rattleXw> Yeah, I second that..  But there isn't really a way around it.  Much of the malware I've been seeing lately is using SSL for it's phone-home and command traffic.
15:36 < rattleXw> I think there are a few ways to address fears/legit concerns that most organizations don't do that they should.
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15:36 < rattleXw> Like, I'm working with our legal department to draft an internal privacy policy that tech staff must adhere to.
15:37 < rattleXw> Not because we have a problem with abuse, but because it's the right way to tackle it.
15:39 <@Catonic> well, conversely, if you push out a security cert to all your desktops, and have that cert in the outbound content compliance box (OCCB), then your traffic of interest becomes that which you do not have the cert to
15:42 < rattleXw> I don't follow...  If you are doing mitm at your border, there isn't any traffic you don't have the cert for.
15:46 <@Shadow404> omg, how is your tor
15:47 <@Catonic> unless you didn't generate it
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15:48 <@Catonic> if the traffic has a private key and a public key that you do not possess, your item of interest becomes what you can't see.
15:48 <@Catonic> tor?
15:48 <@Catonic> Shadow404: speak american english, please.
15:49 <@Shadow404> i request complete? tell when complete so request next...k thx support for
15:49 < eryc> product names are the majority of american english
15:49 <@Catonic> Shadow404: what nationality produced that? Because I'm going to use that at work.
15:50 <@Catonic> http://chroniclesofgeorge.nanc.com/
15:55 <@Catonic> I think I'm really starting to embrace my inner bachelor.
16:00 <@Shadow404> india
16:08 < rattleXw> Catonic: You couldn't mitm and still ensure a secure end-to-end communication between your mitm point and the end client if you didn't generate the key..  You'd always generate the key.
16:08 < rattleXw> Er..  I guess you could use the default key.  But that'd be stupid.
16:08 < rattleXw> The vendor has that key.
16:09 < rattleXw> At least if you control the keys and the equipment, the connections are still "secure".
16:10 < rattleXw> Shadow404: Kicking just fine.  A steady 20+Mbit of people in China beating off and doing vulnerability scans..
16:12 < eryc> when is tor-zeitgeist coming out
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16:17 <@Shadow404> dude, why kind of beat off material?
16:19 <@Shadow404> always curious what those crazy asians are into, probably zentai
16:20 <@m0j0-j0j0> hmm so... bowling at Pleasant Valley Lanes in north Raleigh kicks off in about 40 minutes.
16:21 <@Shadow404> so, we really dont care
16:22 <@m0j0-j0j0> Shadow404: you're trying to pick up ideas for beat off material from China... if might be a good idea for you to get out a little.
16:22 <@m0j0-j0j0> Shadow404: besides, a strong wrist is an asset in bowling.
16:22 <@Shadow404> oh man, if only you knew what sorta party im going to tonight
16:23 <@m0j0-j0j0> over 40 swingers?
16:23 <@Shadow404> im not over 40
16:23 <@Shadow404> heh, na
16:24 -!- m0j0-j0j0 changed the topic of #se2600 to: PN13: The Bailout October 30th - 31st of 2009 | Join us in #pn13-planning | Congrats Dementia on the engagement
16:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> well, I hope you have a great time at the "party."
16:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> I'll be too busy trying to find a hole that isn't too tight.
16:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> ^^ tomorrows quote of the day
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16:32 -!- Shadow404 changed the topic of #se2600 to:  <@Shadow404> always curious what those crazy asians are into, probably zentai
16:32 <@Shadow404> gah
16:32 -!- Shadow404 changed the topic of #se2600 to: PN13: The Bailout October 30th - 31st of 2009 | Join us in #pn13-planning | Congrats Dementia on the engagement
16:32 < coil> noob
16:33 < vyrus001> lawl
16:33 <@Shadow404> forgot what kvm i was on
16:33 < coil> good excuse
16:33 <@Shadow404> worked for your mom
16:33 <@Shadow404> she likes me talking packet management to her
16:34 < coil> kill me now
16:34 <@Shadow404> and then a run a port scan intrusively
16:34 < coil> mister cliche
16:34 <@Shadow404> thats me
16:34  * vyrus001 is suddenly reminted of bad lines from haxxxor vids
16:34 < vyrus001> reminded*
16:34 <@Shadow404> dude, coil bought 5 copies that con
16:35 < coil> i didn't even go
16:35 < coil> idunno what the fuck you're talking about
16:35 <@Catonic> lol
16:36 <@Catonic> "read off the sheet! tell me how to port scan!!!!"
16:36 < coil> ???????
16:37 <@Shadow404> first i stick in my I P
16:37 <@Catonic> I'm going to run down to the art museum and scan for promiscous interfaces.
16:37 <@Shadow404> giggity
16:38 <@Shadow404> wait..alabama has an art museum?
16:38 <@Shadow404> isnt that a contradiction?
16:42 <@Shadow404> what exactly are the limitations of a sonic screwdriver?
16:46 < coil> hi who wnats this pos motherboard
17:03 < vyrus001> Catonic: lol rooting ssh tunnles and such ;)
17:04 < [1NF0]> promiscous interfaces... easy women? ;)
17:04 <@Drag0n`> thats a wetware interface
17:05 < vyrus001> "his wet ware matches her soft ware"
17:07 < vyrus001> damnit
17:07 < vyrus001> anybody know where moose went
17:09 <@Drag0n`> her wetware made his software upgrade to firmware so they could use the hardware
17:12 <@Catonic> vyrus001: from what I've gathered about his wife, I'd say into debt.
17:13 <@Catonic> his only escape may be to move to the country and start a new identity
17:13 <@Catonic> Shadow404: right next door to Boutwell, where blue man group was.
17:14 <@Catonic> why does anyone go to college? Port scanning, of course.
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17:59 <@Dagmar> You're not getting laid because you're gay.
18:03 < vyrus001> Catonic: lawl no doubt on that one
18:03 < vyrus001> but i ment he said somthing about commin to ca
18:03 < vyrus001> was wondering if he was on his way
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18:51 <@rhia>      
19:19 < juice__> i got my google voice invite today :)
19:20 < juice__> setup my account too
19:28 <@Dagmar> I didn't.  You suck
19:28 < juice__> sorry
19:28 < juice__> they didn't give me any ivites to send either :(
19:28 < juice__> s/ivites/invites
19:29 <@Dagmar> Meh.  Doesn't matter.
19:29 <@Dagmar> I'm still holding out for when they convert it to run in pure javascript for legacy browsers. ;)
19:37 < juice__> hey dagmar have you played with gnome do?
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19:44 <@Dagmar> Not yet
19:44 <@Dagmar> gnomemnu is a bit higher on the priority list at the moment
19:45 < juice__> I am really impressed with gnome do
19:45 < juice__> slackware 12.2
19:46 < juice__> gnomemenu? or gnomenu?
19:49 <@rhia> And that's the way it was - so long and thank you for letting us know how news could be reported, sorry we let you down
20:00 < coil> hi anyone know debian lenny
20:00 < coil> anyone know that guy?
20:00 <@Dagmar> 6% of Americans think Walter Cronkite is faking it.
20:01 <@Dagmar> coil: Dude, I'm pretty sure that's a release designator
20:01 <@Dagmar> juice: http://www.gtk-apps.org/content/show.php/GnoMenu+-+consolidated+menu+for+gnome?content=93056
20:01 <@rhia> sadly, the legacy of boobtube news is, well, a short attention span theatre by a bunch of plasticized ADHD boobs - and the rabid propagandists at FOX
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20:02 <@rhia> so far from Walter and Hugh, so very, very far
20:02 < coil> well i installed from a usb drive and grub was installed on the usb drive and not my hd
20:02 <@Dagmar> rhia: So, at least we've still got Phil Henry
20:04 <@rhia> Dagmar: just kinda sad - grew up watching the vietnam lists coming across CBS, remember Cronkite being awed at the moon landing .....
20:04  * rhia is old
20:06 <@rhia> just, damnit, journalism used to MEAN something besides good hair, boobs, and talking points
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20:09 <@rhia> his take on Vietnam, after he went there, has never left me
20:10 <@rhia> i was just a kidling, but i remember
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20:58 <@rhia> very telling that Rachel is the one that has Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather
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22:50 <@Corydon76-dig> http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs198.snc1/6690_103867902739_627602739_2242315_5669874_n.jpg
22:50 <@Corydon76-dig> semi-sfw
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23:22 <@dasunt> LOL.
23:22 <@dasunt> Someone got arrested at a local bike shop today.
23:23 <@dasunt> A kid brought in a $5,000 road bike.
23:23 <@dasunt> Didn't know how to air up the tires.
23:23 <@dasunt> They called the cops and did the slowest repair in history.
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23:32 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
23:32 <@Dagmar> That's hilarious
23:32 <@Dagmar> Which city are y9ou in?
23:40 <@Dagmar> Ah yer one of them yankees
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23:58 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Minneapolis.
23:58 <@dasunt> http://twitpic.com/am1ic
23:58 <@dasunt> ^- Lol.
23:59 <@dasunt> And the bike:  http://twitpic.com/am1pw
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