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00:15 <+eryc> ok
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00:50 <@kive> ubuntu 9.04... StrongSwan is a replacement for KAME, right? Not built on top? I know a lot of KAME is built into the 2.6 kernels -- just not at all familiar with KAME or StrongSwan -- mostly OpenSWAN and proprietary implementations of ipsec.
00:52 <@kive> I'm trying to build a small ipsec mesh (4-5 endpoints), where a couple of the endpoints use dynamic addressing that changes fairly often (several times per day -- think laptop). I also want this to be plug and play. All hosts are Ubuntu, same version... any experiences that indicate one or the other is the better approach?
00:56 <@m0j0-j0j0> wow sounds like fun
00:56 <@m0j0-j0j0> best of luck with it
00:56 <@m0j0-j0j0> cheers
00:56 <@m0j0-j0j0> come bowling
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08:06 <@Shadow404> woot, im going skydiving on july 18th
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08:55 <@m0j0-j0j0> yo yo
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08:55 <@m0j0-j0j0> Drag0n`: morn
08:56 <@Drag0n`> mourning
09:05 <@nachoguy> indeed
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09:09 < TheLightCosine> vr00000m
09:09 < fie> Hello The Internet, how are you doing today?
09:17 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
09:18 <@Dolemite> So do we have an official date for PN13?  Is there officially going to be a PN13?
09:20 <@Drag0n`> call it PN12.999 then go to PN14 the next year <g>
09:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: Halloween weekend
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09:23 <@Dolemite> that's going to suck, there's a home game for the Titans on Nov 1
09:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Take it up with the president
09:25 <@Dolemite> No, because then I get accused of not letting go.  I'll take a pass.
09:25 <@nachoguy> really halloween weekend?
09:27 <@Dolemite> I'll be trick or treating with the kids on Saturday
09:27  * TheLightCosine has msised the past two meetings
09:28 < TheLightCosine> and looks like i'll miss this friday too
09:28 <@nachoguy> srsly, not sure I can make that
09:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: apparently, another party swooped in and got the previous weekend, partly due to the sales staff at the hotel not having a clue
09:29 <@I-MOD> we could always crash their party :D
09:29 <@Dolemite> *cough* right
09:31 <@nachoguy> you know I'm not opposed to November
09:31 <@nachoguy> but it's not my gig
09:31 <@Dolemite> So the call from the hotel manager to me in mid-June asking me if there was going to be a PN this year because nobody had called them was them not having a clue?
09:31 <@Corydon76-dig> nachoguy: normally, discussions would happen in here, but we're missing the person you'd need to convince
09:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: interesting.  That's not the line we got from SkyDog
09:32 <@Dolemite> s/mid/first week/
09:32 <@Corydon76-dig> and SkyDog has already told me to fuck off, so I have to sit this one out
09:33 <@Dolemite> welcome to the club!~
09:33 <@nachoguy> Corydon, I'm just tossing out the possibility of having it in Nov.  I'm not part of the planning or anything.
09:35 <@Dolemite> well if nachoguy isn't going then I'm not going!
09:35 <@Shadow404> so wait, skydog is killing pn?
09:36 <@Shadow404> or am i reading this wrong?
09:36 <@nachoguy> We'll have our own con with hookers and blackjack
09:36 <@nachoguy> well, in that neighborhood there are always hookers, but I'm not sure anyone wants them
09:37 <@Dolemite> I have a poker table!
09:38 <@nachoguy> heh
09:41 <@Dolemite> Shadow404 : I'm not claiming that anybody is killing PN. I am simply asking why at the end of June there are no official communications regarding any forthcoming events.
09:41 <@Dolemite> Or at least, none that I have been able to find.
09:42 <@Dolemite> Someone sent an email to the pn mailing list 3 weeks ago asking and there was no response.
09:42 <@Dolemite> Kemo, I think
09:46 <@Dolemite> ok, time to head out to a useless meeting on the other side of campus.  Have fun, kids!
09:46 <@nachoguy> enjoy
09:46  * Shadow404 kicks the old grumpy man
09:46  * Dolemite flatulates on Shadow404
09:47 <@Evilpig> i'm gonna sit here and relax a minute or two
09:47 <@Evilpig> we just moved a ton of crap and tired now
09:47 <@Shadow404> please dont bring your bowel movements into this conversation
09:48  * Evilpig grunts
09:48 < fie> m0j0-j0j0, http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/i-tried-the-secret-and-all-i-manifested-was-this-lousy-tshirt
09:49 <@Shadow404> and a ton of crap, just isnt humanly possible or healthy, geez
09:49 <@Shadow404> what are you? a fucking elephant on a strict diet of baked beans and corn?
09:49 <@Evilpig> I thought tshirthell was out of business now?
09:49 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: twas a hoax
09:49 < fie> Evilpig, dude, that do that like every 2 years.
09:50 <@Evilpig> I do love their michael jackson death shirt
09:50 < fie> I've been on their mailing list for like 6 years
09:51 < fie> I got the Didgeridoo Hero shirt from torso pants. That always gets me comments.
09:55 <@nachoguy> http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7032/1246217482095.jpg
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10:17 < ware> morning!
10:17 <@nachoguy> ahoy
10:19 < ware> heard there were some lulz here
10:19 < ware> as well as shit talk gossip
10:19 <@nachoguy> shit talk gossip lulz?
10:20 < ware> so sayeth my interwebz
10:20 < ware> hence why i have graced this place with my presence!
10:20 <@nachoguy> can you be a bit less vague, this channel is mostly shit talking and gossip
10:20 <@nachoguy> and occasionally lulz
10:21 < ware> youre right, i should just stick around so i can be in the know / up to the second informed and prepared for aforementioned shens
10:21 < ware> cause if theres lulz, i wanna know about em.
10:23 <@nachoguy> seriously man, what's up?
10:23 < ware> notta
10:24 < ware> i bought a USB OBDkey reader for my car this morning
10:24 < ware> http://www.obdkey.com/vehiclediagnostics.asp
10:24 <@nachoguy> neat.
10:24 <@nachoguy> what'd that run you
10:24 < coil> gay
10:24 < ware> didnt think the wifi / bluetooth would be as safe as the usb version
10:24 <@nachoguy> I've always wanted to try one
10:24 < ware> $130
10:24 <@nachoguy> though my car is heading quickly towards death
10:25 < ware> my saab has been a prissy bitch
10:25 < ware> just figure this will help in troubleshooting
10:26 <@nachoguy> I'm hoping the cash for clunkers bill goes through soon
10:28 < ware> is that chi-town legislation or federal?
10:29 <@nachoguy> fed
10:30 <@nachoguy> www.cashforclunkersfacts.com
10:33 < ware> oh wow! ive got 5 vehicles so that would come in handy hahaha
10:34 <@nachoguy> 5?  wtf?  you parking them on your front lawn?
10:34 < ware> haha they are at my parents farm house
10:35 < ware> 2000 Saab 9-5, 97 Mazda Milenia, 89 Ford Ranger, 92 Suzuki Katana
10:35 < ware> guess i only have 4, plus my Kayak
10:36 <@nachoguy> apparently you can only do 1
10:36 <@nachoguy> suzuki katana, is that a bike?
10:37 < ware> yeaha, oldie
10:38 < ware> im keeping it around for a fix up project that ill eventually get to
10:38 < ware> im waiting on a loan request to get a newer bike (R6/CBR/GSXR)
10:41 <@Shadow404> woot, going skydiving on July 19th
10:41 < someninjamaster> ok to answer some of the quesitons here
10:41 < someninjamaster> there is a phreaknic 13
10:41 < someninjamaster> the offical theme is the phreaknic bailout
10:42 < someninjamaster> the artwork contest should start in a couple of weeks
10:42 < someninjamaster> we are in the process of finalizing the swag for the con
10:42 < someninjamaster> the call for papers is now offically open
10:42 < someninjamaster> we also have a large number of contests planned for the con
10:42 < someninjamaster> as well as some cookouts like we had last year
10:43 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: hint, i dont use twitter
10:43 < someninjamaster> if anyone has some suggestions or requests they can eather ping me online or e-mail them to ninja@someninjamaster.com
10:45 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: Thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you.
10:47 < ware> update the website!
10:47 -!- I-MOD changed the topic of #se2600 to: Welcome to the Southeast US, where liver transplants are just days away! | PN13: The Bailout (Halloween weekend)
10:48 < ware> send out an email to the mailing list
10:48 < ware> is there one for PN?
10:48 < ware> http://www.phreaknic.info/pn12/chairincident/index.php
10:48 < ware> lol pwn
10:51 < ware> Shadow404: where are you going skydiving?
10:51 < ware> we were supposed to go this friday but my friend planning it is epic fail and the place is full
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11:05 <@sdodson> hi
11:06 <@Dolemite> sdodson : die!!!
11:06 <@Shadow404> ware: atlanta skydiving center in cedartown, ga, i have a friend of my bros that is gonna get us discounted prices
11:06 <@sdodson> Dolemite: I farted on your pillow.
11:06 <@Shadow404> like 119 for the tandem
11:06 <@Dolemite> sdodson : So did my 7 week old.
11:07 <@nachoguy> ah, how is the little one? sleeping ok?
11:08 <@Drag0n`> Why do airplanes have propellers? to keep the pilots cool! Don't beleive it, watch how much they sweat when one stops spinning!!!
11:11 < ware> loloolol nice lulz
11:18 <@Drag0n`> oh, and whare, the hitch on the cashfor junkers program is, they have to be insured for the last year, are all those at your parents farm insured?
11:22 < ware> negatron
11:22 < ware> insurance is the first thing people dropped in this economy
11:22 <@Drag0n`> then they are ineligable
11:23 < [1NF0]_Work> it has to be insured? or just registered?
11:23 <@Drag0n`> insured
11:24 < Thrynn> I just looked at this program yesterday. They also have to have a *new* combined MPG of 18 or worse. You'll have to check fueleconomy.gov to see where your vehicle ranks.
11:24 <@Drag0n`> Q: What do I need to bring to the new car dealership when I bring in my trade?
11:24 <@Drag0n`> A:  You need to bring: title, registration, drivers license & insurance papers showing continuous registration and insurance coverage for the past full year.
11:24 < [1NF0]_Work> ahh
11:24 < [1NF0]_Work> barstards
11:27 <@Drag0n`> its understandable, it is there to prevent fraud of ppl going out to a junkyard and buying a $50 clunker and trading it in for $4500
11:27 < [1NF0]_Work> Their requirements are the suck... I mean, it basically eliminates all cars('have a "new" combined city/highway fuel economy of 18 miles per gallon or less')... SUVs and stuff, yeah... barstards
11:27 <@rhia> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/30/wild-dallas-police-chase_n_223047.html  or you can just get rid of the clunker this way
11:29 <@Drag0n`> its cash for junkers, not crash for junkers
11:30 < [1NF0]_Work> My current car is valued at about $600 private-party sale... but EPA says 20 combined MPG
11:31 <@rhia> yeah, like most things from the congress critters, its not nearly as effective as it should be
11:40 <@Evilpig> that site says my truck should get 20mpg.  that is fairly close but it should be in that credit cause I would trade it in
11:41 <@Evilpig> 97 ranger with 260,000miles.  They want me to take that off the road
11:46 <@nachoguy> trucks have different rules, iirc
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11:54 <@Drag0n`> trucks have easier restrictions, less miles for the new vehicle
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11:55 < scud> catonic is a guy basher!
11:55 < scud> 11:46:18) catonic: .the other night at a party, I scared some friends
11:55 < scud> (11:46:50) scud: you dropped your pants?
11:55 < scud> (11:46:56) catonic: some gay guy kissed me, and I almost killed him on the spot.
11:56 <@Drag0n`> depends on if he wanted to because he was gay or because he kissed him, if some woman were to kiss me unwanted, i would react rather hostily
11:56 < scud> c'mon catonic has no sex life, he enjoys anything he can get
11:56 <@Drag0n`> well, there is that
11:57 <@nachoguy> meh, I think these days Catonic is probably a pimp and just doesn't want you guys to have to give up the "catonic never gets laid" fun
11:58 < ware> scud: win
11:58 < ware> HAHAHA
11:59 <@Drag0n`> just because your a pimp, dont mean your getting any.
11:59 < ware> youre*
11:59 <@nachoguy> true
11:59 <@nachoguy> but if he's a pimp, he might not only be the president, but also a client
12:00 <@strages> lol
12:00 <@nachoguy> hey strages
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12:04 <@rhia> nachoguy: you scared him off
12:05 < scud> no. strages sharted and he had to leave to wipe.
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12:05 < scud> he's done!
12:05 <@nachoguy> scud++
12:06 < coil> hi scud
12:06 < scud> whats up, foil.
12:06 < coil> same old shit, diff day
12:06 <@strages> sup nachoguy
12:07 < scud> coil: is that in the same guy's ass or multiple guy asses?
12:07 <@nachoguy> how are things down in the 256?
12:07 < coil> haha i wish
12:07 < coil> more no guys asses
12:07 < coil> more like no guys asses
12:08 <@strages> nachoguy: can't complain
12:08 < scud> coil: you''re so metro
12:08 < coil> hardly
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12:19 < ware> http://jobs.arstechnica.com/list/444/
12:23 <@nachoguy> indeed
12:23 <@nachoguy> I had a friend that applied to work there and got through the interview
12:24 < coil> play my boy
12:24 <@nachoguy> the didn't want to pay him what he wanted, and their turn around time was pretty slow
12:24 < coil> yeah baby!
12:24 <@nachoguy> at this point, I'd almost be worried about them staying in business
12:39 <@Dolemite> *burp*
12:41 <@Drag0n`> boomer!!!
12:42 <@Shadow404> smoker!!!
12:45 <@m0j0-j0j0> fie: is the secret thing worth giving a watch?
12:48 <@m0j0-j0j0> fie: sounds like something that might be okay, but usually things that sound like that might be okay, but have a name like "The Secret" are kinda gay.
12:49 <@m0j0-j0j0> and by gay I mean completely socially acceptable, yet maybe not as focused on by the straight society as a rodeo might be
13:13 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: http://www.smra.net/  SFW
13:17 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.igra.com/Calendar_Rodeo.htm
13:19 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: I didn't say that rodeos aren't gay, I just figure it's on the fence for delineating what is and isn't gay.
13:19 <@m0j0-j0j0> "gay"
13:29 <@Corydon76-dig> I've known guys to head to the rodeo in order to find themselves a date
13:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Gives a whole new meaning to "Ride 'im, cowboy"
13:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> I just think it's fun to watch the guys who completely freak out.. I saw a guy who got bucked off, landed mostly on his feet and then ran away from the bull (who wasn't paying him any mind) and ran into the gate and knocked himself unconscious.
13:43 <@m0j0-j0j0> unconscious lulz ftw
13:45 < fie> m0j0-j0j0, I was telling you about that at carolinacon
13:45 < fie> it's bull shit
13:45 < fie> I'm atheist and the universe can suck my balls.
13:49 <@someninjamaster> anyone that would like to be involved in the planning of phreaknic 13 is welcome to join #pn13-planning
13:51 <@m0j0-j0j0> fie: if you're an atheist then don't the laws of nature dictate that the universe actually suck everything in it?
13:52 <@m0j0-j0j0> someninjamaster: sorry.. I'm too busy picking fights with my Raleigh folks
13:52 <@someninjamaster> haha
13:52 < fie> m0j0-j0j0, laws of nature as you interpret it is an oxymoron
14:00 < fie> http://twitpic.com/8tyen
14:02 <@m0j0-j0j0> fie: so you're agnostic?
14:02 < fie> I told you what I was.
14:04 <@m0j0-j0j0> (02:45:50 PM) fie: I'm atheist
14:12 -!- someninjamaster changed the topic of #se2600 to: PN13: The Bailout October 30th - 31st of 2009| Join us in #pn13-planning
14:34 <@m0j0-j0j0> someninjamaster: won't that collide with pumpCon?
14:35 <@someninjamaster> i have not heard of pumpcon
14:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> I think it's in PA
14:36 <@someninjamaster> it appears they havent set dates yet
14:36 <@rhia> why "The Bailout"?
14:37 <@someninjamaster> everyone else is getting one
14:37 <@someninjamaster> why shouldnt we
14:37 <@Drag0n`> reference to the economy? tring for government money?
14:37 <@someninjamaster> yes thats the joke
14:38  * m0j0-j0j0 fake laughs.
14:38 <@rhia>  . . .
14:38 <@rhia> k
14:39 <@someninjamaster> we have some really funny stuff planned
14:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> because they forgot about the con and the last minute someone had to come up with an idea to bail them out
14:39 <@rhia> m0j0-j0j0: heh
14:40 <@someninjamaster> well we orginally we going to keep on with the alien theme
14:40 <@someninjamaster> but then at the june meeting corydon pitched the bailout
14:40 <@someninjamaster> and everyone liked it and voted for it
14:40 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: pitched?
14:41 <@Drag0n`> better than caught
14:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, I hesitate to take credit for it, but I agree that we all thought it was a good idea
14:41 <@Corydon76-dig> I said something, and it evolved into the theme
14:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> the poster can be a spaceship crashed into the ocean and bailing out buckets of cash to keep from sinking
14:43 <@Corydon76-dig> It's one of the themes that evolved from the group talking about it, and the last one that was like that got us a really strong theme that year (10)
14:44 <@Drag0n`> ehh, feels too mainstream, not real hackerish...meh, but im not on the planning commitie
14:44 <@Corydon76-dig> The group is definitely excited about the theme, though
14:45 <@someninjamaster> you can join #pn13-planning if you would like to be in on the planning
14:45 <@Drag0n`> or in a financial position to attend, so meh,
14:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Drag0n`: we'll be putting our own spins on it, and I think the ideas that have come out so far are really good
14:45 <@Drag0n`> dont feel right planning a con from another state that i cant attend
14:45 <@m0j0-j0j0> I don't think I'll be able to make it :(
14:48 <@Drag0n`> though, "Going Green" would have so many more routes of hacker opportunity, Green support for Iran, The great Green monster of the bailout, Environmental Hacking, etc...
14:49 <@m0j0-j0j0> and the color
14:49 <@Drag0n`> yep
14:49 <@m0j0-j0j0> then you could put it off to St. Patrick's Day!
14:50 <@Drag0n`> The Great Green Pumpkin for holloween
14:51 <@Drag0n`> did they ever make the glow in the dark pumpkin? would be great for that
14:51 <@m0j0-j0j0> oh, and I could dress up like a storm trooper
14:52 <@Drag0n`> only if you dress up as Darth Veera
14:52 <@m0j0-j0j0> Darth Ball!
14:52 <@Drag0n`> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jodilynn/197872698/
14:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> Drag0n`: I don't smoke :(
14:54 <@Drag0n`> so put an LED in the end of a fake cig <g>
15:00 <@aestetix> word
15:01 <@aestetix> Wait, PN13 is 30-31 of October?
15:03 <@someninjamaster> yes
15:03 <@aestetix> That seems like a bad idea.
15:03 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: why?
15:04 <@aestetix> It conflicts with Halloween.
15:04 < ware> LOL NO SHIT?
15:04 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: that's intentional, not a conflict
15:04 < ware> love the ppl that dont attend / plan comment on PN13 ;)
15:04 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: a lot of people have other plans that night.
15:05 < ware> id spend my hallowicked @ PN
15:05 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: Explain that to jonnyx.  PN has always occurred around Halloween
15:05 <@aestetix> Around, but not on.
15:05 <@Corydon76-dig> It's tradition now
15:05 <@aestetix> To be fair, I didn't go to PN 1-4
15:06 <@aestetix> Oh, ok. Looks like PN3 was held on halloween.
15:06 <@aestetix> dunno about 1 or 2
15:08 <@m0j0-j0j0> Just don't tell rhonda from the seventh level or Yar.  It will bring your judgment.
15:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> someninjamaster: if I was you I wouldn't worry too much about it.  I've been trying to get folks to have a run on 9/11
15:10 <@m0j0-j0j0> someninjamaster: if attendance drops you'll know for next time
15:10 <@someninjamaster> im not that concerned with it
15:10 <@Drag0n`> thats too close to DragonCon, may have some difficulty on that date
15:10 <@someninjamaster> i think we will have a pretty good turnout
15:11 <@someninjamaster> we are going to be really promoting it around the country
15:11 <@Corydon76-dig> m0j0-j0j0: attendance dropped last year, but we're pretty sure that had to do with the economy
15:11 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: yeah, most likely
15:11 <@aestetix> I think RSACon attendance this year was down 30%
15:12 <@m0j0-j0j0> oh, then with a down economy and on a holiday I'm sure you'll see an effect
15:12 <@aestetix> Yep.
15:12 <@aestetix> If I go this year, it will be very strained, and I will have to leave early :/
15:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Dunno, how many people with kids were likely to attend PN?
15:12 <@m0j0-j0j0> maybe if the swag was money
15:13 <@m0j0-j0j0> Corydon76-dig: pegans
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15:26 <@freakn> ah, so a date is set.  GaTech will be in Nashville that same weekend.  Lucky me.
15:27 <@someninjamaster> freakn: so your ok with the date?
15:27 <@freakn> hell yea
15:27 <@someninjamaster> finally
15:28 <@someninjamaster> someone that likes the date
15:28 <@freakn> I havn't made the last 2 PNs because the date conflicted with GT home games in Atlanta, but with us playing Vandy that Saturday, i was already going to be in Nashville.  Now I just make it an extended weekend and get work to pay for business travel and I am set
15:31 <@someninjamaster> awesome
15:32 <@freakn> conflicting with Halloween is only a bad thing for the guys that have little kids.  Other than that it isn't a problem
15:32 < Thrynn> just tell the kids that the Great Pumpkin is dead and head down the road to PN
15:47 <@rhia> conflicting with a Titan's home game is another hassle that weekend
15:49 <@freakn> isn't it an away game?
15:49 <@freakn> in Jacksonville?
15:49 <@freakn> oh no, it is home, ha
15:53 <@aestetix> freakn: or people that want to hit halloween parties
15:54 <@aestetix> If I go to PN this year, I would be, once again, leaving on saturday morning
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16:00 <@nachoguy> So, Vandy has a home game, the Titans are home, and it's Halloween?
16:00 <@Dolemite> yep
16:00 <@Dolemite> but nobody travels to Vandy home games, so that's a non-factor
16:00 <@freakn> Tech will
16:01 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, from GA Tech?  I'm betting they will
16:01 <@freakn> not like a huge ammount, but I would say 8K or so
16:01 <@freakn> or 10K
16:01 <@freakn> it is closest away game this year
16:01 <@Dolemite> I think you'll get a lot of people who drive there and back the same day
16:01 <@nachoguy> ah
16:01 <@freakn> depending on time of game, but liekly it will be a midday game, and thus drive home
16:01 <@Dolemite> but nobody going to that game would be staying at the Days Inn
16:03 <@Dolemite> so like I said, I really don't see that as a factor
16:03 <@Dolemite> I think the Titans home game will be the biggest, as football fans will actually call up and make room reservations ahead of time
16:03 <@Dolemite> unlike a certain demographic
16:04 <@nachoguy> yeah, I talked to a couple of my co-workers and found out that they went to go see the bears titans game last year, and that they had stayed at the days inn
16:04 <@Dolemite> yeah the hotel gets booked solid for home games
16:04 <@juice> not if we have it booked solid :)
16:05 <@nachoguy> not having full run of the hotel is going to get real interesting when there are a bunch of drunk geeks getting loud in the hallways and the football fans are trying to sleep so they can start tailgating at 7 AM
16:05 <@juice> the 18th is open :P
16:05 <@Dolemite> right, like this group is going to make reservations ahead of time
16:05 <@nachoguy> juice, it'll never happen
16:05 <@nachoguy> it doesn't fill out to the last minute
16:05 <@nachoguy> and last year, I'm not sure it happened at all
16:05 <@juice> heh
16:06 <@juice> that what happened?
16:06 <@Dolemite> In 6 years of running the convention I struggled every year with getting people to reserve their rooms more than 7 days in advance.  You'd get about 1-2 dozen reservations in the beginning, then the rest flood in the week before the con.
16:06 <@nachoguy> no, good chance that people showing up at the last minute for the con will be going down the road to find somewhere else to crash
16:06 <@nachoguy> juice, fill the hotel
16:06 <@juice> yeah
16:06 <@juice> for sure
16:06 <@juice> it seemed like less peeople
16:06 <@Dolemite> The hotel didn't fill last year
16:07 <@Catonic> the conomy tanked
16:07 <@Dolemite> there weren't a lot of rooms left, but there were some available on Friday and Saturday night for walk-up
16:07 <@nachoguy> Catonic, yes, but I'm one of the few that books a room more than a month in advance
16:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: word on the street is that you kissed a boy, and you liked it
16:08 <@Catonic> Let me put it this way...
16:09 <@Catonic> first daddyfucker who tries that at a con is losing an appendage. Or several.
16:09 <@Dolemite> It wasn't a kiss, he was practicing CPR
16:09 <@juice> doh
16:09 <@Catonic> And that's the last I'm saying about that.
16:09 <@Catonic> nachoguy: I can't remember the last time I did.
16:09 <@Catonic> But I've drunk a lot.
16:10 <@nachoguy> I think the past couple of years with 1 month left to con time, the number of non staff hotel rooms booked is less than 30.  Dolemite, am I off on that?
16:11 <@Dolemite> 1-2 dozen was the average.  I didn't have a breakdown on what was staff versus guest.
16:12 <@nachoguy> Catonic, couldn't a daddyfucker be a woman (like a mommy)?
16:12 <@nachoguy> meh, I was just looking for ballpark
16:12 <@Dolemite> but you're on the right track
16:13 <@juice> http://digg.com/d1vIa0 MORON
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16:18 <@m0j0-j0j0> juice: holy mental retardation batman!
16:19 <@juice> true
16:19 <@Drag0n`> if only it were a castration instead, one less contributor to the gene pool
16:20 <@nachoguy> so, did anyone go to that neighborcon thing?
16:21 <@m0j0-j0j0> Drag0n`: You need to get onboard.  Stupid is the future.
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16:25 <@Drag0n`> stupidity should be lethal
16:29 <@m0j0-j0j0> Drag0n`: it's the latest craze with all the kids
16:31 <@Drag0n`> thats fine, as long as its leathal
16:31 <@Drag0n`> lethal
16:31 <@Drag0n`> were overpopulated as it is, that will help
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18:30 <@tzanger> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196479/Pictured-The-battered-bruised-face-burglar-got-wrong-72-year-old-boxer.html
18:30 <@tzanger> nice
18:40 <+eryc> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab9_1246385878
18:47 <+eryc> http://pastie.org/530020
18:47 <@dasunt> WTF is up with piss poor management?
18:48 <+eryc> is that a drinking euphemism?
18:53 <@dasunt> Nope.
18:53 <@dasunt> Although it causes drinking.
18:54 <@dasunt> There are too many idiots out there that thinks bossing people around is all a manager does.
18:54 <@Drag0n> nope, they also get bossed around by their directors
18:55 <+eryc> i thought that was the purpose of that organizaatial structure
18:55 <@rhia> http://lnk.nu/brownpride.us/xp2.html   ?Court Ruled That Media Can Legally Lie?
18:56 <@rhia> just so sdodson can continue with his MSM snipes
18:56 <+eryc> rhia: um yea thats old news
18:56 <@rhia> i know, just ran across it again
18:56 <+eryc> rhia: but thanks for bringig it back up, i certainly have not forgotten
18:57 <+eryc> i figure we can thank the bush family for that one
18:57 <@dasunt> eryc: Managers should also know what the fuck is going on.
19:04 <+eryc> that depends
19:04 <+eryc> rhia: the fcc/feds should mandate integrity when granting spectrum licenses
19:04 <+eryc> just as they do "moral decency"
19:05 <+eryc> i think it would be a pretty easy win if people start talking about it
19:11 <@rhia> considering what they consider morally decent, wonder how they'd define "integrity"
19:17 <+eryc> its a pretty simple formula
19:17 <+eryc> nipples and pubes = bad
19:17 <+eryc> nipple impressions and cameltoe = ok
19:17 <+eryc> free speech after 10pm
19:22 <@rhia> and Carlin's immortalized list of words
20:07 <+eryc> i think some of those can be said, or have been
20:15 <@sdodson> rhia: i'd never do such things
20:18 <+eryc>  http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Item
20:20 <@dasunt> I've never looked at plumbers and thought "damn, they are overpaid".
20:21 <@dasunt> Friend of mine is having some plumbing work done at his apartment.
20:21 <@dasunt> The problem?  Discarded tampons.
20:21 <@dasunt> Plumbers don't make enough.
20:21 <@sdodson> dasunt: ya, stop flushing those down the toilet dude
20:23 <@dasunt> Any job that involves sharp pipes, shit and blood is a job I won't do.
20:23 < polerin> heh
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20:48 <+eryc> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/30/data-protection-internet
20:56  * dasunt ponders.
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21:02 <@dc0de> howdy se2600/.
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21:44 < polerin> hi dc0de
21:45 <@dc0de> hey polerin what's shakin?
21:45 < polerin> dc0de: how do you feel about jobs that involve sharp pipes, shit, and blood?  ;P
21:45 < polerin> (sorry, quote from above)
21:45 < polerin> Not much, workin on some code waiting for my hair to dry :P
21:47 <@dc0de> yeah, I'm building virtual machines.
21:47 <@dc0de> watching star wars on Spike.
21:47 < polerin> heh
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21:58 < polerin> dc0de: better than me.  I was just out in playing with sparklers with my neice...  managed to set my (wet from the shower) hair on fire :P
22:17 <@dc0de> doh
22:26 < polerin> heh
22:26 < polerin> "<lissa> shit, it looks like a leprechaun just exploded in my hands"
22:26 <@dc0de> hahaha
22:26 <@dc0de> brb
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22:31 < polerin> heh
22:31 < polerin> and there she is herself :P
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22:38  * Lissa pokes rhia under direction from polerin 
22:52  * eryc pokes Lissa in the butt
23:02  * rhia pounces Lissa 
23:03 < Lissa> :D
23:10 < Lissa> that book was depressing :/
23:17  * polerin hugs
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