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07:43 <@Shadow404> whats the new standard upgrade for video cards now adays?
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07:57 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:11 -!- Dolemite changed the topic of #se2600 to: Welcome to the Southeast US, where liver transplants are just days away!
08:18  * polerin blinks
08:19 <@sdodson> Dolemite: WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf
08:19 <@Dolemite> Haven't you read/heard the news in the last week?
08:20 <@polerin> depends.
08:20 <@Dolemite> Steve Jobs "moved" to TN so that he could get a liver transplant, since we apparently have the lowest queue in the nation.
08:20 <@polerin> Most of the sensationalist crap I leave alone
08:20 <@polerin> ah
08:20 <@Dolemite> And now he's moving back to Cali
08:20 <@Dolemite> The average for the nation is over 100 days, in TN it's only 48.
08:21 <@polerin> yeah jobs is an ass, but I don't blame him
08:21 <@Dolemite> Because most of us die from complications due to pork rinds.
08:21 <@polerin> yeah.
08:28 <+fall0ut> haha
08:29 <+fall0ut> thats funny
08:36 < sariel> the latest surgery for our new technocratic elite
08:36 < sariel> im pretty sure steve jobs will never die
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09:10 <@polerin> ugh
09:10 <@polerin> not in the mood to code today for some reason
09:11 <@Drag0n`> codus interuptus?
09:11 <@polerin> heh
09:11 <@polerin> http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2009/06/comcast-to-provide-wholesale-ipv6-service.ars
09:12 <@polerin> I know there were a couple people interested in that back when I was werkin fer dems
09:13 <@Drag0n`> they probably couldnt get any more ipv4 blocks for their network, and are being forced to move their customers to ipv6
09:14 <@polerin> mmph.  donno
09:15 <@polerin> wouldn't surprise me, but I know that they have been prepping for ipv6 for awhile
09:15 <@polerin> they updated their core and CMTS back about two years ago
09:15 <@polerin> s/CMTS/CMTS's/
09:17 <@polerin> eryc: poke
09:24 <@Dolemite> peek 62134
10:03 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
10:04 <@polerin> mernin
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10:46 <@rhia> http://www.twolumps.net/  SFW,
10:46  * rhia ducks anyway
10:46 <@Drag0n`> ouch
10:48  * rhia cackles evilly
10:53  * polerin tosses the coffeepot at rhia
10:53 <@rhia> oohhh, Coffffffeeeeeeeeeee
10:54 <@Drag0n`> so, if it falls lower and he swallows it, does it become an eyeTooth?
10:55 <@Drag0n`> (old lady at the Dallas court house told me this one) what do you get from eating a blackberry? a BlueTooth!!!!
10:56 <@rhia> what have eye wroth?
10:56 <@polerin> Drag0n`: oh god that's bad
10:56 <@Drag0n`> eye dont know, Eye can see the humor in it
10:59 <@polerin> yes but it lacks bite.
10:59 < spithash> hi everyone
11:00 <@polerin> hai thar
11:01 <@Drag0n`> so, your saying its iTooth-less
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11:10 <@polerin> Drag0n`: I think it'd be unwise to persue this topic of conversation.  We may have bit off more than we can chew.
11:10 <@Drag0n`> well, ok, but i may have to gnaw at the ide for a while
11:11 <@Drag0n`> idea
11:11 <@rhia> and, now we know why i ducked <g>
11:12 <@polerin> I don't think I'll be able to avoid doing so, it's left a bad taste in my mouth.
11:14 <@Drag0n`> i dont think i can palate much more of this, i just cans swallow much more of the idea.
11:17 <@Drag0n`> but enough of these uvula-tions, time to move on
11:22 <@polerin> I'm not sure I can stomach that.
11:30 <@Drag0n`> as long as we get to the heart of the problem, we can liver with it (unlike steve jobs) butt we dont want to intestinalize the problem and get backed up in the details
11:31 <@polerin> I can tell that it's distressing you, you a colon out of the sentance.
11:31 <@Drag0n`> (i can do this all day, im not proud, or tired <g> ) (bonus points to whoever knows where this comes from )
11:32 <@Drag0n`> we should bowel out of this before the subject takes a dump
11:33 <@polerin> I'm crappy with puns, so I may have to declare this a wash
11:35 <@rhia> i claim inappropriate access (whee!) and remove myself from eligibility
11:36 <@Drag0n`> well, i dont want to get flushed with excitement, but i say we just drain the euphoria from the discussion
11:37 <@polerin> meh.  I think we've sucked the marrow from it for sure.
11:38 <@rhia> Drag0n: excepting Alice, of course
11:38 <@Drag0n`> well, lets make a clean break on the off chance we get fractured in our discussion
11:38 <@Drag0n`> hehe
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11:39 < daswork> OMG.
11:40 < daswork> I think I should work on a dairy farm.
11:40 < daswork> Pros over IT:  The creatures I interact with are more intelligent, and there is less shit to clean up.
11:40 <@Drag0n`> so you can milk it for all its worth?
11:40 <+coil> blog about it
11:43 < daswork> "I've had zone alarm for years, so it can't be the problem, even though when I installed it on my new computer, it gave me a warning about overwriting newer files!"
11:44 <@Drag0n`> ok, let me go out and install this 30 year old carborator on your brand new Mercedese
11:44 <@Drag0n`> it works great on my studibaker
11:45 < daswork> I wonder if these are the same people who call their car dealer and say "I was there last month for an oil change, and now I have a flat tire!  I demand this be fixed for free!"
11:45 <@rhia> yep
11:46 <@rhia> and they're the same ones who show up late at the theatre & get upset that the staff won't rewind the movie for them
11:47 <@Drag0n`> and call 911 when mcdonalds doesnt get their order right
11:47 <@Shadow404> and get irate when a cop pulls them over for speeding cause they left for work late
11:48 <@Drag0n`> stupidity should be leathal
11:48 <@Drag0n`> make the darwin award manditory
11:48 <+Thrynn> sometimes it is, but it usually kills the wrong person
11:49 < daswork> I want large wild felines released in urban areas.
11:49 < daswork> It should take care of most of the problems.
11:49 <+Thrynn> cougars? Atlanta has a lot of those
11:49 < daswork> Thrynn: That type doesn't tend to be fatal though.
11:49 <@Shadow404> and coyotes
11:49 <@rhia> think he means the 4 footed
11:49 <@Drag0n`> get scientists working on a genetic virus, program it for the "hey, watch this" gene
11:50 <@rhia> daswork: wouldn't say that ;)
11:50 <@Drag0n`> those are called black widdow's not cougars
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11:53 <@rhia> claws ok,  mandibles not ok?
11:53  * rhia takes down her Arachnia tapestry 
11:54 <@Drag0n`> didnt say it was wrong, just diferent names
11:54 <@Drag0n`> most black widows end up in california
11:54 <@Drag0n`> where all the rich old guys are
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11:55 <@polerin> Drag0n`: hey.. :(
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11:55 <@polerin> Drag0n`: I have the "hey watch this" gene :(
11:55 <@Drag0n`> no you dont, your still here
11:55 <@Drag0n`> you have the "hey, watch that" gene
11:55 <@polerin> that's because I approach it carefully
11:55 <@polerin> nah, I really do have the "watch this"
11:55 <@polerin> hehe
11:55 <@polerin> I am just careful
11:56 <@polerin> I do stupid things carefully
11:56 <@Drag0n`> its only stupid when it fails spectacularly
11:58 <@polerin> mmph
11:59 <@polerin> I say it's stupid regardless and you're just lucky if you get out alive ;P
12:00 <@rhia> in similar vein:
12:01 <@rhia> http://s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/watch-vfl103922.swf
12:01 <@Drag0n`> cant watch it,, what is it?
12:02 <+coil> same
12:02 <+coil> doesn't play
12:02 <@rhia> 500 yr old Chinese celebration
12:02 <@Drag0n`> ahh
12:02 <@rhia> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbuwqU9oxf4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eweirduniverse%2Enet%2F&feature=player_embedded
12:03 < daswork> Here's the other advantage of large wild felines.
12:03 <@rhia> can't aford fireworks? put on sheepskin vest & straw hat, melt iron, throw against wall
12:03 < daswork> Y'know the whole "dumb assholes who have self confidence and are cocky" problem?
12:03 < daswork> Solves itself!
12:04 <@Drag0n`> yep, and theres no body to clean up after
12:04 <@polerin> is it possible to use different php configs for different vhosts in apache?
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12:19 <+fall0ut> WKRN's transmitter is down hard
12:19 <+fall0ut> 2+more hours before it'll be back up
12:19 <+fall0ut> fail
12:20 <@Drag0n`> thats what you get for broadcasting to your alien overlords via a tiny transmitter
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12:31 <+Thrynn> polerin: http://hyponiq.blogspot.com/2009/02/apache-php-multiple-phpini.html
12:35 <@polerin> danke
12:40 <@sdodson> ohhai
12:45  * polerin gives sdodson a tootsie roll pop
12:49 <@sdodson> polerin: I feel a civil rights violation coming on.
12:49 <@Shadow404> whats the new standard upgrade for video cards now adays?
12:50 <@Shadow404> i'd like to stay with gforce
12:50 <@polerin> oh yeah, use your nightstick!
12:50 <@polerin> :P
12:50 <@sdodson> Shadow404: that's a stupid question
12:51 <@sdodson> Can you please rephrase that in a manner that provides any of the prequisite information to provide an answer.
12:51 <+coil> sdodson no stupid questions, just stupid people
12:51 <@sdodson> Are you upgrading from a Riva TNT or a GeForce 9800GT ?
12:51 <@sdodson> coil: srsly
12:52 <@Shadow404> sdodson: lemme check
12:52 <+coil> sdodson should i give fc11 a try?
12:53 <@Shadow404> sdodson: gforce 9600gt is what i have now
12:53 <+coil> want my 8800
12:53 <+coil> it's an upgrade
12:54 <@Shadow404> haha
12:54 <@Shadow404> so im not sure what the newest model is
12:54 <+coil> srsly 9600 sux ballz
12:54 <@Shadow404> works great for me
12:54 <+coil> try and goto newegg or something noob
12:54 <@polerin> coil: :P  I'll take the 8800
12:54 <@polerin> heh
12:54 <@Shadow404> runs crysis in medium graphics mode
12:54 <+coil> polerin sure
12:54 <@Shadow404> and far cry and aoc in high
12:54 <@polerin> if you're giving it away that is
12:54 <@Shadow404> no issues
12:54 <+coil> oh
12:54 <@polerin> course, I actually just need to build two new boxes
12:54 <+coil> why would i give it away? i'd be left with out a video card then
12:55 <+coil> i need my zombie games
12:55 <@Shadow404> coil: speaking of, runs l4d in max video settings no issue
12:55 <+coil> what resolution
12:55 <@Shadow404> im thinking about a highdef video card since i got the monitor for it now
12:56 <+coil> most shit runs l4d maxed out
12:56 <@Shadow404> 1920x1080
12:56 <+coil> cept for laptop shit
12:56 <@sdodson> coil: sure
12:57 <+coil> sdodson did they get the bugs out of it
12:57 <@Shadow404> so what should i go with
12:57 <@Shadow404> and i refuse to get anything bfg tech
12:57 <@sdodson> coil: It works well for me. I don't know what sort of bugs you're seeing though.
12:57 <+coil> sdodson im just generalizing about fc
12:58 <+coil> like the release of 10 was buggy or something
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13:00 <@sdodson> I'd say that basically Fedora toes the edge of what's stable. If you rely on things like binary drivers for ATI video cards or something like that then you're better off staying away from the latest release.
13:00 <@sdodson> If you're not bound to buggy closed source bullshit then you should be fine.
13:01 <@sdodson> It would be helpful if you were able to coherently qualify what you mean when you say "buggy or something"
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13:02 <+coil> well when i did fc10 it would crash and shit
13:02 <+coil> kernel panic and seg fault
13:02 <+coil> i'd say that buggy
13:03 <@sdodson> coil: Do you know how to debug situations like that?
13:03 <+coil> no idea
13:04 <@sdodson> coil: If things like that happen to you can you send me a copy of /var/log/messages ?
13:04 <+coil> i just get frustraited and dont use that computer ever again until a new release comes out or till i format
13:04 <@Shadow404> sdodson: any suggestion on the video card?
13:04 <@Shadow404> brand? specs? model?
13:05 <@sdodson> Shadow404: No, see anandtech.com and pick a card in your price range from their list.
13:05 <@sdodson> Anytime I upgrade I usually just say "Hmm, I feel like spending $200, what's the best card for $200?"
13:06 <@Shadow404> ok
13:06 <@Shadow404> yeah, wifey and i just got new lg 23 in lcds for our puters
13:06 <@Shadow404> she still cant run full rez with her games with the current onboard video
13:07 <+coil> i need a tv/monitor
13:07 <+coil> i think that would suit me well
13:09 <@Shadow404> you suit nothing well
13:14 <@kive> yeah, just stay the hell off of rawhide. That's where fc really gets exciting. ;)
13:25 <@sdodson> nagios frustrates me so much
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13:27 <+coil> sdodson could i upgrade from 10 to 11
13:27 <@kive> sdodson: nagios is easy
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13:29 <@Drag0n`> nagios is easy....once its up and running, building from scratch is a pain in the arse
13:30 <+coil> nagios is that system monitoring software?
13:30 <@kive> Well, I mean, it's missing setup.exe and all... and that tends to make it a wee bit more complicated... but it always seemed clean and clear-cut for me. Just rock through the config files, follow the simple directions, do a little planning up front so you don't screw yourself, and put it in place piece by piece, server by server.
13:30 <+coil> on a website
13:30 <@kive> yeah, coil -- it's monitoring software
13:30 <@sdodson> kive: It's easy, it's just braindead.
13:30 <@sdodson> coil: yes.
13:31 <@Drag0n`> oh, windows version, do they include sample templates for all the config files?
13:31 <+coil> ~google for fedora
13:31 <+coil> ~google for fedora upgrade
13:31 <@sdodson> coil: you want to look at preupgrade
13:31 <@Drag0n`> i always built it on linux
13:32 <@sdodson> It suffers from perlisms.
13:32 <+coil> wheres the bot
13:32 <+coil> i really should be doing my math homowork
13:33 <@sdodson> "servicegroups: This directive is used to identify the short name(s) of the servicegroup(s) that the service belongs to. Multiple servicegroups should be separated by commas. This directive may be used as an alternative to using the members directive in servicegroup definitions."
13:33 <@sdodson> Why would you do that? Just define one way to do it and be done.
13:34 <+coil> would the open source nvidia drivers for some gefore 5500 be ok to use?
13:34 <@sdodson> That and the inconsistent use of _ is bugging me.
13:35 <@sdodson> coil: Do you want 3d or not?
13:35 <@polerin> sdodson: gods I hate the inconsistant use of _
13:35 <+coil> no, but i would want flash and shit to not be slow on websites
13:35 <@polerin> that's my biggest complaint with php
13:35 <@polerin> well
13:35 <@polerin> one of them.
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13:37 <@kive> Um, I was being sarcastic. Never touched it on windows.
13:40 <@Drag0n`> ahh, k
13:40 <@Drag0n`> same here
13:44 <@sdodson> I guess I need to learn how to use it on windows. I have windows hosts I need to monitor
13:44 <@sdodson> Though, just checking for ping should be sufficient.
13:47 <@kive> nrpe_win works pretty darn well
13:52 <@Drag0n`> yeah, nrpe has a lot of great built in checks, like cpu, memory, disk space and things like that
13:52 <@sdodson> I thought you use nsca or something on windows.
13:53 <@sdodson> It just sucks that I'm having to write all this crap.
13:53 <@sdodson> New machines are fine, when I define a puppet config checks are infered from there so I never have to write any checks on my own.
13:59 <@rhia> Iranian political - mocking Ahmadinejad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAW5QILiq1s
14:02 <@rhia> language NSFW
14:05 <@rhia>  "dressing them up as extras from the transformer movie and putting them on dirtbikes for extra scary asshole effect"
14:14 <@Shadow404> haha, thats funny
14:14 <@Shadow404> rhia: headphones ftw
14:14 <@rhia> heh
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15:01 < emwav> anyone else having a problem getting to nc2600 forums?
15:02 < emwav> Lex ... someone .... kick the server, it needs a re-BOOT to the ass
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15:39 <@kive> sdodson: You can, there's an nrpe just for windows, too, tho
15:40 <@kive> Seems like I was using something like NSC++ awhile back, too
16:30 <@juice> sweet we have a windchill of 110F
16:42 <@Catonic> nsclient++
16:42 <@Catonic> trac.nakednuns.org
16:43 <@Catonic> juice: where are you again?
16:43 <@juice> KS/MO
16:43 <@juice> in Kansas now but only 5 minutes from missouri Kansas City
16:44 <@juice> 1 City 2 states heh
16:44 <@Catonic> holy sweet jesus
16:44 <@Catonic> 104 degrees
16:44 <@Catonic> it's only 94 here.
16:45 <@Catonic> only 92 in lv
16:45 <@Drag0n`>  97 here
16:51 <@juice> .wz 66102
16:56 <@Catonic> juice: so, how does it feel to live in satan's armpit?
16:56 <@juice> sweaty
17:02 <@kive> The southeast will take over the world, it seems. tx, ks/mo, ...
17:12 <+eryc> lol
17:12 <+eryc> too bad ya'll dont have any fighter jets
17:32 <@rhia> gahh.... KC
17:33 <@rhia> spent a summer there working for a plating factory - 118 in the shade, would drop to 102 overnight - ugh
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17:34 <@rhia> walking the catwalk over molten metals at 102 as the low? Not Fun - hell, the drink machine in the breakroom was set to "freeze" - and a frozen coke was too warm to drink after walking the catwalk
17:35 <@rhia> iow, KC holds not so fond memories
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17:41 <@rhia> kive: not as long as Perry, DeMint, Iasakson, Graham, Crist, Tancredo, Landrieu, Vitter, et al are in office
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17:43 <@rhia> - an 'a' - y'll figure it out ;)
17:47 <@rhia> kive: this channel has, after Obama, become apolitical, but, if the southeast is to rise to the abilities we have, there are a whole slew of politicians we have to remove first - just saying
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17:54 < Shadow404_IG> meoiw
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18:06 <@polerin> wow, that was a hell of a storm
18:07 <@polerin> knocked out power for a bit, blew down some branches.
18:08 <@rhia> damn
18:09 <@rhia> last sign of rain we had was with green skies and a tornado 2 miles south of us ... since then? blue sky drought
18:10 <@rhia> oh, they SAY there are clouds - they lie
18:11 <@rhia> but, this area has a LOT of 1 & 2 yr old roof patches (further from true DT Dallas) ... but this yr?   we could use some rain
18:16 <@rhia> btw, pets: ferrets are inquisitive 2 yr olds,  dogs are obedient 6 yr olds, cats are typical teenagers/argumentative octogenarians - that is the observation of the day
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19:33 <@sdodson> hi
19:37 < [1NF0]> I AM NOT! WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD???
19:39 <@sdodson> I hate apple. :(
19:44 <@polerin> heh
19:44 <@polerin> I killed the router
19:45 <@polerin> hard.
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19:55 <@polerin> ok so, remind me to do my math right
19:55 <@polerin> :P
19:58 <@sdodson> polerin: do your math right
19:58 <@polerin> thanks.
19:59 <@polerin> 25ms isn't .25 seconds.  router didn't like the number of connections, and the server hit the threadlimit
19:59 <@polerin> heh
20:12 <@rhia> polerin: you fixed it ;)
20:13 <@sdodson> Too bad.
20:33 <@kive> Interesting. Doing some genealogy research... when my grandmother used to tell me I was English -- she meant Irish.
20:33 <@kive> That explains a lot.
20:33 <@kive> For that quarter of me, anyways
20:35 <@sdodson> The liver damaged portion?
20:37 <@sdodson> dasunt_: http://www.flickr.com/photos/passiveaggressive/3642661392/sizes/o/
20:37 <@sdodson> dasunt_: http://www.flickr.com/photos/passiveaggressive/3642661392/sizes/o/
20:37 <@sdodson> dasunt_: http://www.flickr.com/photos/passiveaggressive/3642661392/sizes/o/
20:37 <@sdodson> dasunt_: http://www.flickr.com/photos/passiveaggressive/3642661392/sizes/o/
20:37 <@sdodson> oh hey, dasunt_ http://www.flickr.com/photos/passiveaggressive/3642661392/sizes/o/
20:37 <@rhia> kive: pm
20:38 <@sdodson> kive: DONT TELL HER WHAT YOU"RE WEARING ITS A TRAP!
20:38 <@rhia> sdodson: he's, shall we say, a bit more mature than, well, you
20:39 <@sdodson> rhia: UNPOSSIBLE
20:40 <@rhia> i've known kive for nearly a decade .... he's not going to buy your attempts at ... ah, humor
20:40 <@sdodson> Are you calling him old? that's not nice.
20:40 <@sdodson> I have too apparently.
20:40 <@sdodson> Though I don't remember who he is.
20:40 <@sdodson> ptsd from Nam
20:41 <@rhia> sdodson: he's in the group that can call me old w/ a smile and nod, so, yeah, he's an oldtimer <g>
20:41 <@rhia> just not as old as me <g>
20:42  * rhia is ancient, or pushing timeless ;)
20:42 <@kive> sdodson: rhia is still young, which simply makes me younger. That makes you....
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21:59 <@polerin> not much, just finished a cheesy script
21:59 <@polerin> watching lissa play lego indiana jones
22:02 <@polerin> you?
22:06 <@sdodson> dasunt: tall bikes?
22:06 <@sdodson> dasunt: http://www.flickr.com/photos/btmspox/3651813287/
22:07 <@dasunt> I wouldn't mind one.
22:08 <+coil> whose that queer
22:10 <@sdodson> http://www.flickr.com/photos/btmspox/2726110810/in/set-72157606154836790/
22:20 <@dasunt> sdodson: I can keg bike with my trailer.
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23:54  * Catonic snorlz
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