--- Log opened Mon Jun 15 00:00:11 2009
00:28 <@sdodson> http://s717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/Tactical_Resp/?action=view&current=MVI_1778.flv epic retarded
00:36 <@sdodson> http://james.nerdiphythesoul.com/bennyhillifier/?id=m1ZNqex9_kw
00:38 <@Evilpig> sdodson: what the fuck was that dumbass thinking?
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01:07 <@Evilpig> KHAN!!!!!!!!!!
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03:11 <@kive> All: One question out of curiousity... The only person here that I recognize from the FreesideATL channel is [1NF0]. What gives? Is it a lack of awareness, or is there a disconnect that I'm missing?
03:15 <@Evilpig> nothing out of the ordinary
03:15 <@Evilpig> people come, people go
03:17 <@kive> Yeah, but this many #2600 folks... and another set of folks building what amounts to geek heaven... I'm missing something.
03:18 <@kive> s/#2600/#se2600
03:18 <@Evilpig> there really isn't anything to tell.  the usual drama pops up and some people half split off but they're still around.  same as it's always been
03:19 <@Evilpig> there have been alot of changes the last few years but it's all relative
03:19 <@kive> Makes sense -- I guess the numbers just seemed off. I take it that most folks were all together in principle at one point, but personality differences are the reason that isn't the same today?
03:19 <@kive> To be clear: i.e. this is not an -awareness- issue, I take it
03:19 <@Evilpig> nah.  it's all personality conflicts
03:20 <@Evilpig> ie... the usual
03:20 <@kive> Thanks, I appreciate you helping to fill me in. I've been gone awhile. :P
03:20 <@kive> But yeah, I get that.
03:21 <@kive> My dreams... shattered!
03:21 <@kive> ;)
03:21 <@Evilpig> if you really wanted to know i've got hte logs.  but it really isn't worth reading back
03:22 <@Evilpig> you can see some of it if you check the stats page.  http://se2600.org/ircstats/
03:22 <@kive> Nah, it's all good. That gives me enough to ask about. I'll still peek at the stats page, tho
05:16 <@kive> I guess my own thought is that Atlanta is full of some of the smartest and most talented folks that I know. We have the most unique and diverse scene that I've ever had hands-on experience with, without question. But at the same time we seem to defy the usual pecking order of geekdom and succumb to drama more than most.
05:17 <@kive> Dunno... I'm out of touch, I guess.
05:19 <@kive> But, fwiw -- personalities aside -- I'll be personally participating in Freeside, regardless of the drama.
05:20 <@kive> (Not that I've seen any, really, to be honest)
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06:56 <@polerin> need.  coffee.
06:57 <@Evilpig> need... more...  pumpkin pictures
07:00 <@polerin> I'm going to agree with Evilpig on this completely for once
07:00 <@polerin> drama and personality conflicts
07:01 <@Evilpig> and here I thought you needed pumpkin pictures too.  :P
07:01 <@polerin> nah
07:03 <@polerin> Ah, freeside is a consortium
07:03 <@polerin> collective
07:03 <@polerin> what have you
07:03 <@polerin> yeah, I'd be interested in that kind of thing, but unfortunatly nashville's isn't really someplace where I'd be welcome.
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08:03 <@Evilpig> comcast billing has nothing to do with installation charges....  there needs to be a bomb set off in that place
08:07 <@polerin> hey I still have a few friends there ;p
08:07 <@polerin> what's the charges?
08:09 <@Evilpig> $200 install fee for some jackass to screw in the modem.  didn't have to run a line.  didn't setup the static.  didn't connect it to anything.  plugged up and left.  
08:09 <@Evilpig> I had to call in and setup the static.  and they told me it was too complicated for me to do on my own. 
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08:50 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
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09:03 <@polerin> Evilpig: uhm wait. he didn't set up the static?
09:03 <@Evilpig> no.  I had to call in and do it
09:03 <@polerin> You need to call buisness services and bitch at them about that, see if you can get some stuff off.
09:04 <@polerin> if they are charging you $200 for an install he can damn well do it himself.
09:06 <@Evilpig> the guy is calling me back at 1.  i've already bitched to billing who told me I had to talk to my rep
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09:22 < fie> ShadowHntr, Did you know that if you type in your password to IRC it will automatically convert it to asterisks? See.. ************
09:23 <@ShadowHntr> i call bullshit
09:23 <@tzanger> heh
09:23 <@ShadowHntr> i may have been born yesterday, but i'm not stupid.
09:23 < fie> tzanger, Arg! I can't find the entry.
09:23 <@ShadowHntr> fiemustdie
09:24 <@ShadowHntr> **********
09:24 < fie> oh there it is.
09:24 <@ShadowHntr> that didn't work
09:24 <@ShadowHntr> :P
09:24 < fie> ShadowHntr, sorry your name just reminded me of this http://bash.org/?244321
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10:11  * polerin pokes baudburn with a spork
10:28 <@Evilpig> baudburn: don't crash that server again...  actually i am gonna replace that entire box soon
10:35 <@sdodson> Evilpig: dunno, be sure to show that to dc0de first thing you see him
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10:35 <@Evilpig> i'll try to remember to find the link to show him.  that made me squirm I was just waiting for the dude to be shot
10:38 <@sdodson> i'll just post it to the lists
10:45 <@Evilpig> this reminds me of the box maxiez was running in here http://bash.org/?876463
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11:19 <@m0j0-j0j0> Curbob: hey hey
11:20 <@m0j0-j0j0> Curbob: I wasn't enough trouble on forums so you thought you would track me down on here? ;)
11:23 < coil> LOL @ that bash
11:48 < Curbob> i'm watching mojo-jojo
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12:35 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
12:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> yo yo
12:39 <@Dolemite> what's shakin'?
12:41 <@ShadowHntr> hey Dolemite
12:41 <@ShadowHntr> how's NOC-land
12:41 <@Dolemite> justy peachy
12:41 <@Dolemite> got to flip the big breakers on the UPS's yesterday for some electrical work
12:42 <@ShadowHntr> fun?
12:43 <@Dolemite> yep, it's not every day that you get to hear the data center go from about 80dB to 0dB after a satisfying CLICK of the breaker
12:43 <@ShadowHntr> wow
12:45  * m0j0-j0j0 dresses up as Professor Chaos to avoid electrocution when Dolemite turns it back on.
12:57 < Curbob> I once had to unplug a device that had 11 T1's running through it talk about a strange feeling (there was no power switch) even though our customers knew it was going down, still it was scary, I didn't wanna fix it if they didn't come back up
13:02 <@polerin> http://newscoma.com/2009/06/15/racist-and-ridiculous/
13:03 <@polerin> jeesus fucking christ, it looks like someone just found something on /b/ and decided to forward it around the tennessee hill
13:16 <@ShadowHntr> yeah i worried like that once when i was in bledsoe county
13:16 <@ShadowHntr> at their sheriff's office on their T1 link to TBI
13:17 <@ShadowHntr> didn't realize T1s took 10+ minutes to resync after the CSU/DSU was power-cycled
13:17 <@polerin> heh
13:17 <@polerin> ShadowHntr: have a bad few minutes did you?
13:18 <@ShadowHntr> polerin: nah, it was a bad day in general. 100+ degrees outside, stuck in a cramped basement of a 100+ year old sheriff's office caked with MOLD
13:18 <@polerin> ew.
13:18 <@Dagmar> They do when AT&T is running them.
13:27 < fall0ut> ShadowHntr: yo
13:27 < fall0ut> was in a meeting when you called
13:29 < fall0ut> ShadowHntr: you're in pikeville?
13:29 <@ShadowHntr> fall0ut: nah, did a service call at their SO when i worked for motorola
13:29 < fall0ut> ah
13:29 <@ShadowHntr> nice scenery :)
13:29 < fall0ut> I do a lot with the telco there
13:31 <@ShadowHntr> cool
13:32 < fall0ut> yea
13:32 < fall0ut> then again, I do a lot with any rural telco in TN
13:33 < fall0ut> and a lot of rural muni power
13:35 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh
14:01  * sung sighs
14:06 < fall0ut> sup sungyfag
14:12 < sung> nothing sexy
14:12 < sung> i lost one of my key rings
14:13 < sung> so i'm hpoing i'm actually awesome enough with my lockpick set to open up the lock on my drawers
14:13 < sung> it's a fucking tiny-ass /four/ pin lock
14:22 < fall0ut> heh
14:26 < sung> so, anyways.
14:26 < sung> fail.
14:29 <@Dolemite> You should open it with a toothpick and some belly button lint.  That takes real skillz!
14:33 < sung> i haven't got skillz
14:34 <@Dolemite> oh
14:34  * Dolemite puts the lint back
14:39 <@polerin> .. bleeh
14:42 <@ShadowHntr> Dolemite: he's an amateur lockpick, not MacGyver.
14:43 < Curbob> his pants have a lock on them?
14:44 <@Drag0n`> chastity drawers
14:48 < Curbob> with a small 4 pin lock lol
14:49 <@Drag0n`> small lock for a small prize
14:49 < Curbob> i have a nice lock pick set, so far i'm still having problems with wet paper bags.. but soonn....
14:50 <@Drag0n`> well, seeing as a wet paper bag doesnt have a keyhole to insert the picks in
14:50 < Curbob> next step are the little locks out of bubblegum machines :)
14:50 <@Drag0n`> perhaps you should try an actual lock
14:50 < Curbob> hummm..
14:51 < Curbob> i need one of the clear one's to watch what i'm doing first
15:01 <@m0j0-j0j0> I had a lot of fun learning how to do pick locks a while back, but I never got a pick set.. planned on it.. just lost the guy who had them before I could get a set
15:03 <@rhia> did you have him paged? or just put up flyers?
15:03 <@Dolemite> milk cartons
15:06 < Curbob> ha
15:07 <@m0j0-j0j0> I lost a guy at a con who happened to be wearing a red Hawaiian shirt... I need to get my eyes checked.
15:08 <@m0j0-j0j0> actually, I think he had to go do a talk on checking weapons at the airport
15:09 <@Drag0n`> rule 1, dont wear a turban
15:11 <@Drag0n`> rule 2, dont get a friend that works for the airline to "bypass" security for your lawfully owned weapon instead of lawfully checking the weapon
15:14  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
15:14 <@sdodson> aestetix: why?
15:14 <@aestetix> sdodson: everyone loves hugs
15:20 <@juice> http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/barrytate6/McDonk.jpg
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15:29 <@Dagmar> Fuckers.
15:29 <@Dagmar> If Philip Morris says I can't smoke, then no one smokes
15:31 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Smoking is bad for you.
15:31 <@Dagmar> Killing is bad for you.
15:32 <@Dagmar> God forbid I see someone shilling menthols near Bongo after this.
15:32 <@Dagmar> They'll need theray.
15:32 <@Dagmar> s/theray/therapy/;
15:33 <@polerin> Dagmar: ?
15:34 <@polerin> ah ok I see
15:39 <@Dolemite> w00t.  We just bought an industrial strength degausser.
15:39 < sung> what do you do with it
15:39 <@polerin> Dagmar: what's the official reasoning behind it?
15:40 <@Dolemite> sung : Destroy hard drives and LTO tapes
15:41 <@Dolemite> We have sensitive information on our storage media so we have to use a method of destruction that will indemnify us.  This degausser is certified to DoD standards which means that as long as we follow the correct procedures we prove that we have performed due diligence on data destruction.
15:44 < sung> what business are you in
15:47 <@rhia> coeds
15:47 <@polerin> damnit rhia, I was searching for that line
15:48 <@Dagmar> Data center stuff
15:48 <@polerin> Dagmar: legislation reasoning?
15:48 <@m0j0-j0j0> sdodson: saying "smoking is bad for you" to someone who wants to smoke is bad for you
15:48 <@Dagmar> These aren't drives anyone could realistically reuse anyway because they're all freakin dinky
15:51 <@m0j0-j0j0> smoking may kill you slowly, but if you bust out that gay little cough supposedly because you came within 15 feet of me while I'm smoking.. ..I might kill you right now.
15:55 <@Corydon76-lap> m0j0-j0j0: fyi... in TN, you can no longer smoke within 15 feet of the entrance of a restaurant
15:55 <@oddball> Dagmar: By the way, I'm on your side with the cigerettes.  At least cloves smell half-way decent.
15:57 <@Corydon76-lap> Dolemite: what's the media that you need to erase?
15:58 <@Corydon76-lap> I have it on good authority that a single pass on modern drives makes the information irretrievable
15:59 <@Dagmar> Not just "good authority"... The guy who wrote the paper all these dimwit data erasure firms claim gave them their "27-pass protocol" says one pass will do it
15:59 <@Dagmar> However, we've still got stodgy DoD standards which are overkill, but incredibly hard to argue with.
15:59 <@Corydon76-lap> No need for 7 passes, and unless the degausser is saving you time, that one's expensive overkill
15:59 <@m0j0-j0j0> I quit a month ago, but that little Zoolander "I'm so sensative" cough REALLY pisses me off.
15:59 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-dig: DEFINITELY it saves time
16:00 <@Dagmar> It takes *hours* to sanitize those goddamn slow things to DoD spec
16:00 <@Dagmar> m0j0-j0j0: I usually glare at those pathetic bastards and tell them "adapt or die"
16:00 <@m0j0-j0j0> you fake bitches driving SUV's and doing coke off the arm rest are bitching about a cigarette?! really?!
16:00 <@Corydon76-lap> Dagmar: I mean, if you have to sanitize a hundred sets of hard drive media, and the degausser takes 3 seconds, and hooking up the drive to write a single pass takes you half an hour, then it's massive time saver
16:01 <@Dagmar> I've seen people act like little bitches and start a phony coughing fit when I'm in a strong upstream breeze
16:01 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-dig: Probably two hundred, and from personal experience, close to three hours apiecce.
16:01 <@Corydon76-lap> Also, if you had to sanitize tape media, it's faster there, too
16:01 <@Dagmar> That's using badblocks to do the complementary pattern wipes, too
16:01 <@oddball> Dagmar: Hey, you know when it's me doing it, there's entirely too much smoke in the room. :p
16:02 <@Dagmar> Badblocks and dd can't really be accused of being exceptionally slow
16:02 <@Corydon76-lap> I'm not sure whether tape drives are the same write tech as hard drives or not
16:02 <@Dagmar> They'll erase just fine when a gaussian field like the hand of god slaps down on them
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16:04 <@Corydon76-lap> No, I meant, I'm not sure if a single pass on a tape drive makes the information irretrievable or not
16:04 <@m0j0-j0j0> I bet you could find a faster way to sanitize your media...if only you had a large hadron collider at the office
16:05 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-dig: Basically, if it were reasonable to recover from one overwrite pass, manufacturers would be using it to store more data
16:06 <@Dagmar> It's an order of magnitude simpler than recovering disk platters, but that line still starts at "effing impossible" so there's a lot of margin before it reaches "reasonably doable"
16:07 <@Corydon76-lap> Dunno, it's one of those things I'd want to ask Scott Moulton or another guy who does recovery for a living
16:07 <@Dagmar> Attacks against erased tapes primarily focus on edges of the media due to changes in head alignment
16:07 <@Dagmar> Just saying what I remember of all those people worrying over the problem.
16:08 <@Dagmar> I'm about to send a HD to him because I'm tired of fucking with trying to untangle this goddamn mess of an NTFS filesystem
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16:10 <@Dagmar> Okay.  Mt. Dew "Throwback" officially meets my approval.
16:10 < Electricus> I was wondering if there was anyone that has ever tried to hook up a small office of 5-10 users with an in-house asterisk ip-pbx pointed to a voip provider.... and if so how reliable was it
16:11 < Electricus> I've heard of certain companies that have done it and gotten terrible results with only upset customers as a result, but it should work if you have the right voip provider and a very solid internet connection
16:12 <@polerin> I hate to tell you I actually DO hate smoke
16:12 <@polerin> fuckes with my sinues something fierce
16:13 <@Corydon76-lap> Electricus: works fine, as long as you have a reliable connection between your customer and the voip provider.  The less hops, the better
16:13 <@Corydon76-lap> Going 20 hops is less likely to be reliable enough for business purposes.
16:13 <@polerin> and a provider that doesn't blow :P
16:13 < Electricus> Corydon76-lap: Have you ever need to set up qos at the router to allow voip packets priority... or it just works?
16:14 <@Corydon76-lap> Electricus: I have never, no.
16:14 <@polerin> Dmz dmz dmz
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16:15 <@Corydon76-lap> MPLS is sometimes a solution with a data provider
16:15 < Electricus> can you give me any personal success stories Corydon?  How many phones? in-house or off-site pbx?  bandwidth?  I would greatly appreciate
16:16 < coil1> hi
16:16 < coil1> n e 1 round
16:16 <@Corydon76-lap> Electricus: for SIP and ulaw, figure 80k per phone
16:16 < Electricus> ya..i was thinking 100k just to be safe
16:17 <@Corydon76-lap> I'm not sure if any of my success stories are under NDA or not
16:17 < Electricus> and it's all about your upload speed really. that's primarily the bottleneck
16:17 < Electricus> :)
16:17 <@Corydon76-lap> I was never the primary, just a tech
16:18 <@Corydon76-lap> I can tell you what the company set up, though I'm unsure if I can tell you the clients
16:18 <@Corydon76-lap> One client used analog lines primarily with voip as backup
16:18 < Electricus> ya..that's cool. just numbers is what I'm curious about .. and trying to gain some comfort factor before I roll out our office
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16:19 <@Corydon76-lap> We had only done up to around 10 lines.  More than that, and it gets cheaper to simply get a frac PRI
16:19 < Electricus> ya.. i'm really trying to lean on voip as primary with 1 analog as backup.. long distance rates are bad
16:20 <@Corydon76-lap> or a dedicated data pipe
16:20 < Electricus> such as a T1 or something like that you mean?
16:20 <@Corydon76-lap> If you go with shared data pipe (with other data), you'll want to overprovision by at least 20%
16:20 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: hating smoke and not being mature enough to remove yourself from a situation involving it aren't the same thing
16:21 < Electricus> oh i see
16:21 <@Corydon76-lap> Yeah, data T is usually the data pipe
16:21 <@polerin> m0j0-j0j0: depends.  I like sitting outside.  I've been sitting out side any number of times when smokers come out and smoke near me
16:22 < Electricus> what do you think about a 6mb/768kb dsl service for up to 10 voip users?
16:22 <@Corydon76-lap> Depends on whether you're doing anything else on that uplink, like serving mail or web
16:22 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: I figure outside is outside and requires a bit of tolerance (as well as politeness) from all involved.
16:23 <@Corydon76-lap> bbiaf
16:23 < Electricus> ya doing both of those.  that's why I was thinking qos might actually help guarantee good voice...
16:24 <@polerin> m0j0-j0j0: ok point being that it's not just "hey smoker here first, I want to smoke, if you don't like it bugger off"
16:24 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: my company is busy discriminating against a minority which I think is wrong, but since the minority "should change anyway" they think it's okay to discriminate.
16:25 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: that would be the "politeness" part of it.  People suck at being polite, but I think it's going to make a comeback one day.
16:25 <@polerin> in this case you're talking about smokers being a minority?
16:26 <@m0j0-j0j0> they are
16:26 <@polerin> that really really depends on the workplace
16:26 <@polerin> most of the places I've worked I've been in the minority
16:26 <@m0j0-j0j0> this is the news industry and everyone used to smoke all the time.. inside... but these days smokers are in the minority
16:27 <@polerin> Tell me that bit about how you're supposed to be adult enough to remove yourself from the situation?
16:27 <@polerin> you know, when it's inside the workplace?
16:27 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: I think inside the work place was wrong
16:28 <@polerin> then were IS it right?
16:28 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: I didn't put up a fight when they said that had to stop because it was forcing something on someone else who didn't have a choice in the matter
16:28 <@m0j0-j0j0> outside you aren't forced to breath the smoke
16:29 <@polerin> and yet I end up doing so most of the time unless I want to walk 6 zillion miles away from the door
16:29  * polerin srhugs
16:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> but it is an option
16:30 <@m0j0-j0j0> inside you have 0 options
16:30 <@polerin> I just think it's ass if someone sitting there, and a smoker walks up that it's up to the person who's been there to remove themself from the situation
16:30 <@polerin> brb though
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16:35 <@m0j0-j0j0> I think it is the only solution with any equality.  Someone who wants to smoke must either 1) tolerate the craving or 2) get up walk outside and smoke.  Please who don't want to break smoke should 1) stay in side 2) tolerate the smoke outside or 3) move away from it.  That being said, I think if someone is in a general outside area (a park on a bench) it would be really rude to sit next to them and light up without even asking, 
16:36 <@polerin> I don't see how that's equitable at all, but ok whatever.
16:36 <@m0j0-j0j0> I think that our generation set a lot of this in motion by not beating the hell out of our kids until they knew to be polite or fear death.
16:36 <@oddball> Oh dear... any body heard of the LionHeart Group? (identity theft protection)
16:37 <@polerin> Uh... beating kids == polite?
16:37 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: kids are smart.. they'll get it after the first time or two ;)
16:37 <@polerin> I'm actually a very polite person in most instances (IRC doesn't count though I would submit that I'm more polite than your general irc resident)
16:38 <@polerin> Never have been beat
16:38 <@polerin> never will beat my kids.
16:38 <@m0j0-j0j0> I was never beat, but I spent many years not being polite as well.
16:39 <@polerin> I would say it has more to do with the rest of the child-rearing process than the method of dicipline
16:39 <@m0j0-j0j0> "The world owes me everything" type attitude
16:39 <@Dagmar> I'd kinda like to know why this dickhead cop still has a job
16:39 <@polerin> oddball: what about lionheart anyway
16:39 <@polerin> Dagmar: which?
16:40 <@Dagmar> He was supposedly responding to a car theft call, but has the time to pull over an ambulance, start a bunch of shit, and try to arrest the driver?
16:40 <@Dagmar> How the fuck was he supposedly needing to get where he was going in a hurry if he had time for that?
16:41 <@oddball> polerin: apparently my company is going to have everyone go to a meeting where they're going to sell their wares to us and I want to know who the hell they are.
16:41 <@oddball> "you want to protect my identity? ok, who the fuck are you and how are you going to do this?"
16:41 <@m0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: I saw a cop driving ~100mph T-bone another car when he didn't have his lights on or his siren and it all got swept under the rug.  I hate it when things like that happen, but they do all the time.
16:42 <@oddball> Dagmar: He went to the scene, discovered that it was already well under control, and then hunted down the ambulance.
16:42 <@m0j0-j0j0> Dagmar: in FL a cop let his gun on the coffee table and his 6 year old boy shot his best friend in the head... he never got tried or held responsible for that.
16:43 <@oddball> and yeah, there's a reason that I trust Random Person on Street more than I do Random Cop.
16:43 <@m0j0-j0j0> I don't think all cops are dickhead
16:44 <@oddball> Neither do I, but it seems like the percentages are there.
16:44 <@m0j0-j0j0> when I find the ones that aren't I'll let you guys know.
16:44 <@polerin> heh
16:44 <@oddball> Oh, I've known a couple.  The guy that was assigned to my highschool was damn cool.
16:46 <@oddball> I've also shocked a number of them when I've called them for trying to overstep their authority.
16:47 <@oddball> Fortunately, it's pretty much always been little bullshit things.
16:47 <@polerin> I had one sorta pout one time
16:47 <@polerin> was funny as hell
16:48 <@polerin> Traffic stop for expired tags.  He asks me "I want to look around your vehicle a little bit, you ok with that?"
16:48 <@polerin> "... do you have a reason for wanting to search my vehicle?"
16:48 <@polerin> "...no."  **pout**
16:49 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: anyways... the company has designated smoking areas outside, and now that those have been the smoking areas for years someone decided they MAY want to eat lunch in that area so the company told the smokers that they have to go to one particular smoking area from 11AM-1PM.  Maybe we can make them sit on the back of the bus or use the other water fountain too.  Smokers are easy to pick on right now, but that doesn't make 
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16:50 <@polerin> m0j0-j0j0: doesn't make...
16:51 <@polerin> m0j0-j0j0: and you're honestly comparing being told to sit in one area to the centuries of racism, lynching, and systemic disenfranchisement that the black community had to deal with?
16:51 <@polerin> oh Boo HOO
16:51 <@polerin> :P
16:51 <@polerin> say it sucks all you want, I'm not denying you that, but that's a really really shitty comparison
16:51 <@m0j0-j0j0> discrimination doesn't require a long duration
16:52 <@polerin> people died.  Lots of them.
16:52 <@m0j0-j0j0> smokers?
16:52  * polerin just gives up
16:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: I understand the magnitude issue, but it still is discrimination.
16:53 <@m0j0-j0j0> witch hunt
16:53 <@polerin> whatever
16:54 <@m0j0-j0j0> polerin: hater ;)
16:56 <@m0j0-j0j0> one day, the meek shall inherit the earth.  Because the strong aren't going to let them get on the last rocket-ship before the planet breaks apart.
16:57 <@m0j0-j0j0> time for me to cut out.
16:59 <@m0j0-j0j0> have a good one folks.. and if you get that large hadron collider cleared on budget let me know.. I've got some drives I really need cleaned professionally
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17:55 <@sdodson> holla at a playa!
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18:46 <@sdodson> http://matt-that.com/2009/06/15/yahoo-answers-how-can-i-test-if-my-son-is-gay/
18:46 <@sdodson> i lolled
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18:50 <@sdodson> http://matt-that.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/mint-world-resources-map-r2.gif  basically we're #1 in a bunch of useless crap?
18:54 <@sasquatc4> i dunno if i would consider soy and corn useless crap
18:56 <@sdodson> Corn atleast was pretty useless until we forced it to be in everything
18:56 <@polerin> sdodson:  love the gy test
18:56 <@sdodson> that's cerkit's page btw
18:56 <@polerin> s/gy/gay
18:56 <@sdodson> you forgot a /
18:57 <@polerin> heh, still funny
18:57 <@sasquatc4> true, how else would we make everything unnaturally sweet without soy and corn, gots to feed the hyrdrogenated habit
18:57 <@sasquatc4> and fructose
18:57 <@polerin> im on the phone, could care less :p
18:57 <@sdodson> polerin: i'm on a boat
18:58 <@polerin> doin flips and shit?
18:59 <@sdodson> no, that'd be dumb
18:59 <@sdodson> sorry... gay
18:59 <@sasquatc4> fuck trees i climb buoys motherfucker
19:00 <@polerin> heh
19:00 <@polerin> movie.
19:15 < Todd> $
19:21 <@sdodson> Todd: what's new?
19:37 <@Dagmar> sasquatc4: Next time you might want to word things more carefully
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20:07 <@sasquatc4> yea, i know it was edging dangerously close, but its what i meant
20:22 <@Dagmar> Oi!
20:22 <@Dagmar> Anyone know what polarity battery terminals might be when there's a blue and a red one?
20:28 < [1NF0]> red is likely positive, I reckon
20:28 <@Dagmar> Nevermind, I found a picture that had them labeled.
20:29 <@Dagmar> http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm102/thejefe37/IMG_0640.jpg <-- scary shit
20:29 <@Dagmar> Not hte picture I was talking about, but the problem case.
20:29 <@Dagmar> I love what they've done with what appears to be a fusible link
20:29 < [1NF0]> what the shart
20:34 <@Dagmar> Yeah
20:34 <@Dagmar> Heheh
20:36 <@Dagmar> THey're trying to get an old Suzuki FA50 running.
20:37 <@Dagmar> ...which is a bit like a Schwinn with extra thick frame and a 49cc motor
20:37 <@Dagmar> Other people are telling them what they think the parts might be
20:37 <@Dagmar> I'm telling them which things will be most likely to make the battery explode.
20:38 <@Dagmar> No fusible link + cloth wire insulation == explody-boom funtime.
20:38 < [1NF0]> explody boom funtime.  just awesome
20:40 <@Dagmar> Seriously.
20:41 <@Dagmar> Flaming battery acid is what all the cool kids are wearing this year.
20:45 <@sdodson> i'm tired
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21:00 <@kive> yo
21:02 <@kive> lol - that's great, sdodson (http://matt-that.com/2009/06/15/yahoo-answers-how-can-i-test-if-my-son-is-gay/)
21:05 <@kive> There's some goodies in here for ya: http://www.false-prophet.net/posters/
21:05 <@Dagmar> That yahoo answer is awesome.
21:06 <@sdodson> Ya, its just long enough to make you think he's going to go off in some wild direction then he wraps it up
21:06 <@Dagmar> Very nice style
21:06 <@kive> I can't believe he only got 29%
21:06 <@kive> Sounded spot on to me
21:06 <@Dagmar> Would it be considered rude do you think for me to point out this guy's scooter has a six volt battery?
21:07 <@Dagmar> I mean, he didn't appear to realize anything was wrong with that fusible link being wired like that, and didn't apparently think to just grab a DVM to find out what the battery polarity was
21:08 <@Dagmar> I'd hate to think he'd get all that hooked up and the crappy cloth-covered wiring replaced just to blow his shit to hell and back by trying to jump it off a car, or hook up a 12V trickle charger to it just to come back to scooter flambe later.;
21:08 <@Dagmar> Fuck it I'm telling him
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21:19 <@Dagmar> Some of these people kinda scare me
21:19 <@Dagmar> Someone's posting about locked up disc brakes, and was asking how tightly the pads should grip the disc when the brakes aren't being used.
21:19 <@Dagmar> *blinkblink*
21:20 <@Dagmar> They _let out some of the brake fluid_ using the bleeder nut to get the brakes to loosen.
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21:20 <+Tefad> they should just flap about eh? heh
21:20 <@Dagmar> They should be as close to the disc as you can get them without them actually touching
21:20 <@Dagmar> There's no sense in just grinding down the brakes and making the engine pay for it
21:21 <+Tefad> well yeah, but it's not like the cylinders operate in that direction
21:21 <+Tefad> squeeze-only operation
21:21 <@Dagmar> What has me spooked is the guy posted "I may go ahead and bleed them tomorrow to make sure I have the appropriate pressure"
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21:21 <+Tefad> that's just silly
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21:21 <@Dagmar> It's dangerous.
21:22 <@Dagmar> If he shorts himself on fluid by letting too much out, he can create one of those fun situations where he can squeeze the thing once or twice and it'll work, and then nothing.
21:23 <+Tefad> Aheh
21:23 <+Tefad> er heh.
21:26 <@Dagmar> So it seems this is why Canada is a bit behind the US
21:26 <@Dagmar> http://wtfmoogle.com/1hd.jpg
21:28 <@CRasH180> lol
21:28 <@CRasH180> They keep their HDDs on ice
21:28 < [1NF0]> awesome
21:29 <@Dagmar> Well, this particular lunatic did it.
21:29 <@Dagmar> "You cover the hole with tape" he says
21:29  * [1NF0] rolls eyes
21:29 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking that drive will run for MAYBE a year at most like that
21:29 <@Dagmar> Probably more like a month
21:30 <@Dagmar> Condensation/humidity is going to frost the inside, and then it's over for the heads
21:31 <@CRasH180> That seems as if it is destined to fail
21:31 <@Dagmar> That would be because it probably is
21:39 <@kive> oh my: http://www.moanmyip.com/ (nsfw sound)
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23:32 <@dasunt> I'm going to hell.
23:32 <@dasunt> I know the circumstances why.
23:33 <@dasunt> I just don't know what choice I should have made that was correct.
23:35 <@Corydon76-dig> There is no heaven or hell, just one place.  It is as you make of it.
23:37 <@dasunt> Oh, but I will be the whipping boy of the world demands it.
23:37 <@dasunt> Don't get any kinky thoughts about that, btw.
23:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Nah, I'm not into S&M
23:38 <@dasunt> I have a bit of a messiah complex.
23:39 < sung> you guys are fucking weird.
23:39 <@dasunt> That is true.
23:39 <@dasunt> But normal people are boring.
23:40 <@Corydon76-dig> sung: who is weird and why am I fucking him?
23:41 < sung> cause hes awesome
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23:56 <@dasunt> "...Vegetarians, and their Hezbollah-like splinter faction, the vegans ... are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit.”
23:56 <@dasunt> I'm hezbollah!
23:58 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: wtf?
23:59 <@sdodson> hi
23:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Sounds like a beef rancher who is pissed off that he's not getting what he used to at the slaughterhouse
23:59 <@sdodson> I think vegans = hezbollah  is mostly factual
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